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September 09, 2014, 10:57:58 AM
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"Truth" in Russia: Russain actors make a play to show "Russian journalists beaten by Ukraine's soldiers": #news @cnni


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September 09, 2014, 11:06:16 AM
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"Truth" in Russia: Russain actors make a play to show "Russian journalists beaten by Ukraine's soldiers": #news @cnni



It seems to be shots from a coming movie (presumably called The Truth) about the conflict in Ukraine, which is said to be scheduled for release in November. Pagan, if you read this (which I doubt), stop spreading total bullshit...


http://vashgolos.net/readnews.php?id=3730

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September 09, 2014, 11:12:29 AM
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It seems to be shots from a coming movie (presumably called The Truth) about the conflict in Ukraine, which is said to be scheduled for release in November. Pagan, if you read this (which I doubt), stop spreading total bullshit...


http://vashgolos.net/readnews.php?id=3730



What's the name of the actress? She's pretty...

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September 09, 2014, 11:23:24 AM
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Lol, another epic failure by Pagan Grin
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September 09, 2014, 11:26:42 AM
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It seems to be shots from a coming movie (presumably called The Truth) about the conflict in Ukraine, which is said to be scheduled for release in November. Pagan, if you read this (which I doubt), stop spreading total bullshit...


http://vashgolos.net/readnews.php?id=3730

What's the name of the actress? She's pretty...

I don't know. The girl is probably not a professional actress. More photos from the film set can be found here (including those that Pagan posted, lol)...

If you are really curious, you can ask the photographer at the link I provided (and don't forget to tell us)

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September 09, 2014, 01:38:27 PM
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In Russia people are now not asking for freedom to demonstrate or freedom of speech - but freedom to be buried openly and with respect. How deep a country has sunk



http://argumentua.com/novosti/v-rossii-uzhe-vmesto-svobody-mitingov-i-sobranii-trebuyut-svobody-pokhoron

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September 09, 2014, 01:45:40 PM
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For the first time since the Second World War Jews are escaping from Donetsk - the DNR has opened the hunt. A leading member of the Jewish community, Georgi Zilberbord, has been killed.



http://saracinua.livejournal.com/1565585.html

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September 09, 2014, 03:00:29 PM
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Filming from an ‘secret location,’ an RT journalist lent a hand in documenting further how Russian forces intentionally fire from residential areas in order to provoke Ukrainian forces with the intent of drawing return fire on the area.
"We’re going to get out of here because now it is dangerous [...] there is the fear that missiles will start coming in, so let’s get out of here."



http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/09/08/rt-journalist-films-how-russians-bait-ukrainian-army-into-returning-fire-on-residential-areas/

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September 09, 2014, 03:07:50 PM
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Who needs the bankrupt WEst anyway?

Talking about the big picture... AS I wrote before, the  Ukraine fiasco is just a small dot in a bigger canvas.  Other main characters are now entering the play. And events are accelerating into the climax. We have a ringside view of the birth of an alternative financial system as the world's largest economy, China, and world's resources superpower (and Europe's richest country, GDP-PPP of $3.4 trillion per World Bank 2013 records), Russia, begins their dance to step away from the moribund bankrupt WEstern financial system. THere will still be deaths in Ukraine as the crumbling West struggles from their terminal coma but it's obvious they have lost Ukraine. It appears, the bigger battle, the De-dollarization nuclear war, is already unstoppable and we are watching now the First Act...

The article from Zerohedge below should have been titled : Who needs the bankrupt WEst anyway? THe US has a $220 trillion unfunded liabilities (debts) while Russia only has $800 billion. China has the first and Russia has the third largest reserves in the world but a bunch of countries drowning in debts are threatening the latter with denial of financing. Cheesy

Russia's Response To European Capital Sanctions In One Word: China

While the West continues to press the "Russia is increasingly isolated" meme, it appears - as we noted ironically previously, that Vladimir Putin is finding plenty of friends... most notably China. While threats of 'asymmetric' retaliation over European sanctions may have been enough to worry Europe's leaders, the slew of news overnight regarding increased cooperation between China and Russia is likely more damaging to Western strategy (and egos).

As overnight news shows... China and Russia are ramping up their cooperation...

First, as Reuters reports, Russia and China pledged on Tuesday to settle more bilateral trade in rouble and yuan and to enhance cooperation between banks, Russia's First Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov said, as Moscow seeks to cushion the effects of Western economic sanctions...

    Russia's First Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov said told reporters in Beijing that he had agreed an economic cooperation pact with China's Vice Premier Zhang Gaoli that included boosting use of the rouble and yuan for trade transactions.

    The pact also lets Russian banks set up accounts with Chinese banks, and makes provisions for Russian companies to seek loans from Chinese firms.

    "We are not going to break old contracts, most of which were denominated in dollars," Shuvalov said through an interpreter.

    "But, we're going to encourage companies from the two countries to settle more in local currencies, to avoid using a currency from a third country."

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So that blows the oil/gas funding sanctions plan out of the water as Russian firms will merely fund via China.


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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-09/russias-response-european-capital-sanctions-one-word

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September 09, 2014, 03:12:20 PM
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its a forum, i cant reference every word i write here. but i can easily back it up by few literature pieces not written by pesky russians by the way. its clear that you are unaware of the forces that are controlling this planet.

Well it's not the Illuminati that are doing it, cause we aren't responsible for any of that stuff.

(I'm a count

At the rate you're going, you will soon be detailing here your bank account. From Wired interviews to royalty... What's that got to do with a poor IQ? Will your insecure "self-aggrandizing" tactics prevent us from seeing you have a poor IQ?

Speaking of low IQ, I only mentioned that I am a count as the reason for why much of my family was exterminated by Soviets after the Russian revolution, not to brag about an essentially meaningless status. In case you forgot, once the Tsar was deposed and killed along with all his family, and communists started to gain power, everyone who was not a Bolshevik laborer was considered a bourgeoisie, with royals especially, and were hunted down and killed. But I guess your own IQ is so poor that you didn't even get that context.
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September 09, 2014, 03:22:15 PM
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My main sources of information are Russian and "Western" media. I use my Kiev sources to verify claims, and I know how to read Russian propaganda "between the lines." It's also easy to read a Russian report about something, see photos from, say, Poland that show that this report is untrue, and figure out that most likely everything is the Russian report is not happening.
did it ever occur to you that not everything is controlled by all-seeing czar putin?

Sure, but considering the censorship in Russia, the takedown of blogs, the violence against anyone who doesn't go along with the party propaganda, the assassinations of reporters... It's a bit hard to believe. Plus the vast majority of the news posted here have come from RT, which is most definitely NOT mythological "fifth column"


russians utterly dont care! russians are not as politicaly insane as ukrainians were made to be!

Now THAT I know. It's actually quite a tragedy. Russians generally believe politics is stuff best left to politicians, and don't care to be involved with it, or what their politicians are doing. Which leaves their politicians to rob them of their wealth and freedom. When the Nazi government was burning people in ovens, Germans generally didn't care either, but at least now they admit that not caring was a huge mistake. Likewise, Ukraine really cares about their politics and politicians, and that's why they deposed Yanukovich when he started to rule Russian style, by stealing Ukrainians' wealth and freedoms, and is probably why Russian government freaked out about the protests so much, not wanting Russians to depose them for doing the same thing.
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September 09, 2014, 03:23:46 PM
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Filming from an ‘secret location,’ an RT journalist lent a hand in documenting further how Russian forces intentionally fire from residential areas in order to provoke Ukrainian forces with the intent of drawing return fire on the area.
"We’re going to get out of here because now it is dangerous [...] there is the fear that missiles will start coming in, so let’s get out of here."



http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/09/08/rt-journalist-films-how-russians-bait-ukrainian-army-into-returning-fire-on-residential-areas/

Residential area? If so, where are the dwellings with their inhabitants on this photo which are supposed to be there? By the state of the road and the abundant foliage I'd rather say it is some rural area... Did I miss something?

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September 09, 2014, 03:26:58 PM
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Russia still considering banning Bitcoin, while Ukraine opens a Bitcoin Embassy and plans to set up bitcoin ATMs around the country

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.coinside.ru%2F2014%2F09%2F09%2Fpervoe-posolstvo-bitcoin-v-ukraine%2F&edit-text=&act=url

I wonder what bitcoin status will be in Novorossia? (though I personally doubt that it will be anything but Rossia once the fighting is over)
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September 09, 2014, 03:33:29 PM
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Russia still considering banning Bitcoin, while Ukraine opens a Bitcoin Embassy and plans to set up bitcoin ATMs around the country

These efforts look really pathetic if you take into consideration the fact that the Ukrainian Central bank (National Bank of Ukraine) decided to freeze dollar deposits, which you can now cash out only in hryvnias at the fixed exchange rate...


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September 09, 2014, 03:38:14 PM
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Filming from an ‘secret location,’ an RT journalist lent a hand in documenting further how Russian forces intentionally fire from residential areas in order to provoke Ukrainian forces with the intent of drawing return fire on the area.
"We’re going to get out of here because now it is dangerous [...] there is the fear that missiles will start coming in, so let’s get out of here."



http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/09/08/rt-journalist-films-how-russians-bait-ukrainian-army-into-returning-fire-on-residential-areas/

Residential area? If so, where are the dwellings with their inhabitants on this photo which are supposed to be there? By the state of the road and the abundant foliage I'd rather say it is some rural area... Did I miss something?

"In the segment, the correspondent tells viewers that they are preparing to fire Grad rockets at nearby Ukrainian soldiers, which a Russian soldier, described as an “anti-government fighter,” says always hits its targets. In the video, a house is seen in the background of what appears to be a village."



http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/09/08/rt-journalist-films-how-russians-bait-ukrainian-army-into-returning-fire-on-residential-areas/

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September 09, 2014, 03:39:46 PM
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THere will still be deaths in Ukraine as the crumbling West struggles from their terminal coma but it's obvious they have lost Ukraine

What do you mean by that? That Russia will invade and completely take over Ukraine? Because the "West" was not interested in invading and occupying Ukraine, or considered it "theirs." Ukraine was independent, and the "West" wanted economic trade and partnership with Ukraine. So how will it have "lost Ukraine?"
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September 09, 2014, 03:42:52 PM
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Russia still considering banning Bitcoin, while Ukraine opens a Bitcoin Embassy and plans to set up bitcoin ATMs around the country

These efforts look really pathetic if you take into consideration the fact that the Ukrainian Central bank (National Bank of Ukraine) decided to freeze dollar deposits, which you can now cash out only in hryvnias at the fixed exchange rate...

You have a source? The only thing I can find is the restrictions imposed by Yanukovich back in December.
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September 09, 2014, 03:46:44 PM
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Russia still considering banning Bitcoin, while Ukraine opens a Bitcoin Embassy and plans to set up bitcoin ATMs around the country

Dozens of Bitcoin-based businesses operate out of Russia and not a single user of bitcoin has been detained there until now(unlike the US, where bitcoin users such as Ross Ullbrecht, Charles Shrem, Michell Abner Espinoza and Pascal Reid are currently undergoing prosecution). And regarding the Bitcoin Embassy opened by Ukraine, do you have any official statement from the Ukrainian government regarding this?
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September 09, 2014, 03:55:37 PM
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Russia still considering banning Bitcoin, while Ukraine opens a Bitcoin Embassy and plans to set up bitcoin ATMs around the country

These efforts look really pathetic if you take into consideration the fact that the Ukrainian Central bank (National Bank of Ukraine) decided to freeze dollar deposits, which you can now cash out only in hryvnias at the fixed exchange rate...

You have a source? The only thing I can find is the restrictions imposed by Yanukovich back in December.

http://www.bank.gov.ua/control/en/publish/article?art_id=10092797&cat_id=76291

Interesting that the representative of the NBU speaks in Russian in this video. She says that the money from dollar deposits can only be cashed out in hryvnias (as a temporary anti-crisis measure)...

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September 09, 2014, 04:01:24 PM
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Russia still considering banning Bitcoin, while Ukraine opens a Bitcoin Embassy and plans to set up bitcoin ATMs around the country

These efforts look really pathetic if you take into consideration the fact that the Ukrainian Central bank (National Bank of Ukraine) decided to freeze dollar deposits, which you can now cash out only in hryvnias at the fixed exchange rate...

You have a source? The only thing I can find is the restrictions imposed by Yanukovich back in December.

http://www.bank.gov.ua/control/en/publish/article?art_id=10092797&cat_id=76291

Interesting that the representative of the NBU speaks in Russian in this video. She says that the money from dollar deposits can only be cashed out in hryvnias (as a temporary scam measure)...
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