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July 03, 2017, 04:42:16 AM
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@puwaha, thank you very much for the steps you did.. im pretty sure im following those exactly like your saying.. but when i get back home from my 4th july travels..what ill do is screen record a video of me setting it up the way your telling me, then ill run it live on the video so you can see what im talking about..

In regards to the external miners, i managed to capture it using the remote miner software to add it to my managed miner list, but i was unsure what to do with it from there.. as the miner was already running and i didnt know how to see the results being reported from it through awesome miner.. to be honest with you, i didnt spend a lot of time on this before having to leave to hit the road, so will play with it more when i get home.. Nemo miner used 4 different miners across all the Nvidia algo's it supports during the multi-switch

Here is a quick picture of one of my 4 x 1080ti rigs...

- GPUs Mining : 128 (Updated 3/7/18) // CPUs Mining : 19 (Updated 2/23/18)
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July 03, 2017, 11:23:33 AM
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I cant find my rig. Its running EWBF Cuda zcash 0.3.4b and i cant find it.

Any idea? Thanks


Did you install and run the remote agent?
It listens on port 9630

Make sure this port is also open in Windows Firewall.

Thanks for answer. I just installed remote agent in rig and enable service.

Then I try to search in different PC with awesome miner and didnt find it. Im forgetting anything?

I will try to check the ports are opened. Thanks
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July 03, 2017, 01:00:01 PM
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Loving the software so far.

However finding that anything but Claymore software crashes the rigs isntantly (CcMinder SP-Mod, EWBF, Excav).

It looks like all three try to start up too hard and cause the crash, any suggestions?

Rigs are Ryzen + 4x 1070's.
If you click the Diagnostics button in the toolbar and look at the output - does it give any indication why it's crashing? Especially the EWBF and Excavator miners typically don't require any configuration except the very basics to get going.

All good noob mistake not upping the virtual memory, fixed problem immediately.

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July 03, 2017, 01:50:08 PM
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Autostart worked. Upgraded RA from main program. Autostart stopped working. Uninstalled. Re-installed previous version from local disk. Still does not autostart. Uninstalled. Upgraded back up. Still does not autostart.

UAC prompts are disabled. No dialog shows on Windows start. I can launch remote agent manually on all miners with no dialog prompt and no problem. Miners can autostart other applications no problem. This is really weird as it's set to autostart and shows up in the windows autostart list, but no dice. Sucessfully loading afterburner through same autostart process without a hitch, so I know it's not a Windows issue.

I haven't had time to read this thread but thought I'd take a second to share how I solved this exact same issue I was having on some of my rigs (but not others?) after the latest patch...

Created a shortcut pointing to the remote executable and put it here:
C:\Users\(User-Name)\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

Now it is auto-starting again.

Having it enabled in the startup items in Windows 10 was NOT working but this does work.

Hope this helps.
cheers,
Edward
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July 04, 2017, 07:20:42 AM
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Is there a way to have the miner auto-restart if it crashes? A lot of the time ccminer crashes and I have to manually restart it. When I remote in, it says that cc miner has stopped working and asks whether I want to send a report to Windows. Is there a way for this to be auto-detected and restarted?
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July 04, 2017, 10:52:34 AM
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Hmm seems to be a small bug, but i can't seem to move miners to a different group, they're all in (My Miners) i can't can create a group but not move anything into it.

So you have more than one miner group created already? When you drag and drop, it can be a bit sensitive where you actually drop it if you don't have any other miners in the group. Try to drop it in the status or progress column instead of the first column.

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July 04, 2017, 10:58:41 AM
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I have two questions that I've come up with as I'm using this software more and more.
- I found an earlier post about auto benchmarking for profit switching. Is this still in the works?
- Do you plan to support excavator server 1.2.9a? It seems like the start structure of it has changed significantly from the previous excavator so pointing the existing profile to it doesn't seem to make sense. Also, will you allow for overclocking settings to pass through to excavator or better to let afterburner continue to handle that?

Thanks
1) Benchmarking is on the list of features to implement, but it will not be available within the next month because of many other priorities. It's still possible to configure the hashrates manually for the profiles in the Option dialog.

2) The latest Excavator will be supported later on. The API for this miner has changed significantly recently so it's difficult to keep up with. I've not yet decided which overclocking settings to support, but it's likely that overclocking using Excavator will be supported in addition to MSI Afterburner.

So far the Excavator minor hasn't been that popular, which is the reason I've put it a little lower on the list of features to add.

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July 04, 2017, 11:03:21 AM
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I cant find my rig. Its running EWBF Cuda zcash 0.3.4b and i cant find it.

Any idea? Thanks


Did you install and run the remote agent?
It listens on port 9630

Make sure this port is also open in Windows Firewall.

Thanks for answer. I just installed remote agent in rig and enable service.

Then I try to search in different PC with awesome miner and didnt find it. Im forgetting anything?

I will try to check the ports are opened. Thanks
In your first scenario that you talked about, where you were looking for the EWBF miner, it's important that the EWBF miner was started with API enabled and on a port that is within the range you scan in Awesome Miner.

In the new scenario where you want to add your Remote Agent, you should select "Awesome Miner Remote Agent" in the network scan dialog. Also uncheck the option "Ping first" if you experience problems in finding your miner.

If it still doesn't work, you can verify that you don't have any firewall or similar blocking the connection to the Remote Agent. You can also try to manually add the Managed Host from the Options dialog, instead of scanning for it.

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July 04, 2017, 11:11:35 AM
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You should be able to define two Managed Templates (http://www.awesomeminer.com/help/managedtemplate.aspx). One with ccminer on Auto-download (which is ccminer-spmod). The other one ccminer with custom path, where you point to your ccminer-Alexis.

Then you should be able to apply these template to one or many Managed Miners in a single operation.

Even if I add support for ccminer-Alexis in addition to ccminer-spmod - you would still be required to do the same switching with templates unless you manually go into each miner.

... but doesn't this mean that we don't get the automatic profit switching ability Huh?

My aim it to have it switch between ccminer and ccminer-fork based on whichever pool which has been selected from the pool-group, by the profit-switcher.

I hope there is a way to achieve this.  Smiley

EDIT:  Also with ccminer (and same if I load in a ccminer fork) I have issue where I cannot send parameter for the miner by using the pool settings dialogue.   example: maybe a specific intensity or worksize, or similar - to be used for a pool.      I have sent an email about this to info@awesomeminer......  maybe I just do not understand how to achieve this.   I see I can do it with the managed miner, and a template ..... but then *I* have to switch it - but I would like the profit switcher to do it for me.
For the profit switcher you can only use one version of ccminer. Either you use the built-in ccminer, or you configure your profit profile to use your custom ccminer-alexis. You cannot use both at the same time in the profit switcher at the moment, but this will change soon if I add support for ccminer-Alexis as well.

Device profile settings cannot be set per pool, but you can configure device profile settings for each mining software being used by the profit switcher if you edit your Profit Profile.

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July 04, 2017, 11:37:18 AM
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hi, I'm getting an issue with pricing of coins be very far out and updating coins some times fixes it but rarely does.



any thing in the works to fix this? it kinda breaks quite a lot if you cant rely on the price being correct.

Thanks

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July 04, 2017, 11:46:27 AM
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Any idea why this is happening??
If you open the Properties for the Managed Miner, is it pointing to a valid pool? And that pool has Ethereum or similar as coin?

It is pointing to zpool with auto profit switching and no zpool doesn't support Ethereum so why did it open in the first place?
Also i have another question why is it mining on the equihash algorithm when there are many more profitable algorithms(supported by zpool)
and why is it telling me that im gonna make 4.43 euro/day when the most profitable equihash coin is worth 3.81 euro/day
For the first problem you describe, I would need an API report (toolbar: Tools -> API Report) to figure out the scenario.

There can be other Equihash coins not listed in Awesome Miner that has higher profitability, and for Nicehash, there can be hashrate buyers that pay even more. For that reason, Equihash can be more profitable than any individua coin.

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July 04, 2017, 12:19:20 PM
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hi, I'm getting an issue with pricing of coins be very far out and updating coins some times fixes it but rarely does.

any thing in the works to fix this? it kinda breaks quite a lot if you cant rely on the price being correct.
It looks like it's the exchange rates (listed in the status bar) are a bit old. In the Options dialog, Statistics section, do you use Coinbase as source? What if you change to Bitstamp?

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July 04, 2017, 01:02:29 PM
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Can Body help me?Huh  when i starts the clamor on a remote Rig
The claymor says no pool specified

but i am sure i ve specified the pool....

when i goes direkt to the rig and yousr the awesome miner , the claymore starts without problems
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July 04, 2017, 01:23:24 PM
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Can Body help me?Huh  when i starts the clamor on a remote Rig
The claymor says no pool specified

but i am sure i ve specified the pool....

when i goes direkt to the rig and yousr the awesome miner , the claymore starts without problems

Stop the miner, right-click on it and choose "diagnostics".

That will start the miner but will also show you the actual command line that is being passed to the miner.

With that you can compare the command line that AM is doing to the one you are doing manually that is working, and edit the AM pool or AM miner config until they match.
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July 04, 2017, 02:48:56 PM
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hi, I'm getting an issue with pricing of coins be very far out and updating coins some times fixes it but rarely does.

any thing in the works to fix this? it kinda breaks quite a lot if you cant rely on the price being correct.
It looks like it's the exchange rates (listed in the status bar) are a bit old. In the Options dialog, Statistics section, do you use Coinbase as source? What if you change to Bitstamp?

I haven't changes it from any default settings.

I included the full screen as you can see the data/time it last updated at the bottom.

If I click update now it updates but stays the incorrect price, some times it changes to the correct prices and another click of update now will revert it to the wrong prices...so not really sure what's going on
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July 04, 2017, 02:50:31 PM
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hi, I'm getting an issue with pricing of coins be very far out and updating coins some times fixes it but rarely does.

any thing in the works to fix this? it kinda breaks quite a lot if you cant rely on the price being correct.
It looks like it's the exchange rates (listed in the status bar) are a bit old. In the Options dialog, Statistics section, do you use Coinbase as source? What if you change to Bitstamp?

I haven't changes it from any default settings.

I included the full screen as you can see the data/time it last updated at the bottom.

If I click update now it updates but stays the incorrect price, some times it changes to the correct prices and another click of update now will revert it to the wrong prices...so not really sure what's going on

And yes its set to coinbase.
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July 04, 2017, 08:06:31 PM
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Here's a step by step...


The Managed Profit miner is not auto-switching for me. It stays on the same algo that it starts with.

I followed your guide and setup a profit profile with 6 different algos, all using the same miner and with just zpool enabled, and 5 mins for the interval.

If I stop and restart the miner, it will sometimes pick a new algo, but it won't switch unless it is stopped.

Should it switch automatically? Also what data does the app look at to determine the most profitable algo?

Thanks for this great tool. "Awesome" is right.

Edit: After many hours the miner has not auto-switched. I still love this software. It saves me a lot of time and helps increase earnings. If auto profit-switching was working the software would be perfect.
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July 04, 2017, 10:34:55 PM
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I have an issue using Miningrigrentals.com and awesome miner.

I connect to the same address for all algos and use different usernames. So whatever coin I specify for any rig using miningrigrentals.com turns all of them to that coin. I find this odd because you have them listed as an online service.


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July 05, 2017, 03:36:22 AM
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Does anyone have an example .bat file for MSI AFTERBURNER to apply a particular profile (ie - Profile1, Profile2, etc)

I want to try to find a way to have this command line (.bat file run) before a certain miner software is used (ie - Claymore ETH miner would apply the best profile settings for ETH before mining, ZEC miner would apply a different profile before mining). I'm not even sure this is possible but would like to find a way to do this.

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July 05, 2017, 04:17:29 AM
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Here's a step by step...


The Managed Profit miner is not auto-switching for me. It stays on the same algo that it starts with.

I followed your guide and setup a profit profile with 6 different algos, all using the same miner and with just zpool enabled, and 5 mins for the interval.

If I stop and restart the miner, it will sometimes pick a new algo, but it won't switch unless it is stopped.

Should it switch automatically? Also what data does the app look at to determine the most profitable algo?

Thanks for this great tool. "Awesome" is right.

Edit: After many hours the miner has not auto-switched. I still love this software. It saves me a lot of time and helps increase earnings. If auto profit-switching was working the software would be perfect.


There are several factors that will determine what a Profit Miner will mine.

  • 1. Profit Switching interval
  • 2. Algorithms selected in the Algorithms tab
  • 3. Mining software set to mine those algorithms
  • 4. Profit switching profile set to use those algorithms and mining software
  • 5. Profit switching profile set with correct hashrates and power for the cards
  • 6. Profit Miner set to the correct profit switching profile
  • 7. Finally... what the Online service would say is the current most profitable at that check time/interval

All these factors have to line up for AM to switch, and many times is just the luck of the draw when it comes to the interval and what the pool says is most profitable.  I've watched AM and MPH for a while to see what happens, and many times, you just miss the most profitable coin because it changes so quickly before the next interval.


Now... on the Profit Switching interval:  This is how often AM will check the most profitable coin.  If you look at the Online Services tab, and then uncheck the pools you are not using in the Display Services dropdown... then you will see just the coins being presented as minable.  You also need to change the profit switching profile dropdown to show the profile you will be using.  Now, here's where it gets interesting.  If you set the interval too low (like your 5 minutes), you could potentially have lots of switching.  But, it's only if the pool switches.  If you leave it at 30 or 60 minutes, then you will most likely get less switching.  This interval is important to think about.  If you use something low like 5 minutes, then you could potentially be wasting time during the switch.  It could take 30 seconds to a minute to switch to a different miner and ramp up to your normal hashrate.  Then just 4 minutes later you could be switching again... loosing another 30 seconds to a minute.  You could be wasting 20% of your hashrate during these switches because you are changing too often.

A second issue with a fast profit switching interval is the instability of the top coin.  If you've ever watched a pool's profit switching algo, or Whattomine then you will see that these coin switches also happen a lot.  A coin will hit the top spot, then thousands of profit switching algos will kick in and drive the difficulty up, knocking that coin down the list again.  The problem is, you will be stuck mining that coin until the next interval or check that AM does.  An even greater problem is that your profit pool still has to go out and exchange that coin to BTC, and it will do that at the spot price at the time of conversion.  It will not happen when that coin was profitable for a few minutes or even an hour or two.

Let's say a coin shoots up the list and is now worth $1 per coin.  Your profit switcher changes to it, and you mine a whole coin (possible if you have a lot of hashrate to throw at it)... then after a couple of minutes, the coin drops down the list because of difficulty from all the other miners switching to it... say to $0.50 a coin.  When the pool sends it to the exchanges, you will get at best $0.50 minus all the fees the pool charges for the upkeep of the pool, the exchange fee, and then maybe even a transaction fee.  You will get a lot less than that $0.50.  So really... was it profitable to switch to this coin?

Now imagine you are doing this every 5 minutes... you won't make much profit.  You can combat this by increasing the profit switching interval to a much higher number.  30 minutes is probably the minimum you should look at.

In my opinion, it's actually better to look at the trends of the coin, rather that what is most popular at that instant.  I would prefer to see AM use a weighted measurement average to determine the most profitable coin.  For instance, if you set the interval to 30 minutes, it should check to see what "place" it's in.  If the coin is in the top spot, it should get a "1".  If it's in second place a "2".  Then average that number with all the other interval checks over say the past week... and the lowest average number is what you should be mining.  That will reduce switching to coins that will not perform well, and will bring more profit.  It takes into effect the time it takes for the pool to accumulate coins, send them to the exchange, and then pay you the spot price in BTC.  I think a weighted average will give you a lot more consistent profit.  I'd love to see this feature Patrike!

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