Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.

[TPTB_need_war]

Obviously, I'm not allowed to talk about the case. vokain shamelessly knows this so he can freely go off.

Actually I didn't until you said you were, but it's besides the point. I've removed myself from the case as far as I could for the most part, and it no longer matters to me. Thank you for the blessing.

You have in place practically one of the largest monetary claims of all. You're lying.

Yeah it might be nice to get some more money, but it literally doesn't mean a thing to me. My father passed away recently.

Vokain if you want feel free to come talk with me in Bitmessage so perhaps money won't be an issue for you soon. Is New Orleans helping you with your grief?

Btw I hope readers know that Vokain gave away 10s of BTC to me (via rpietila) to distribute to typhoon victims in the Philippines in 2013. I still have the receipts and several photos of new roofs funded were posted in rpietila's thread.

This is a very young man doing that level of charity.

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[vokain]

Obviously, I'm not allowed to talk about the case. vokain shamelessly knows this so he can freely go off.

Actually I didn't until you said you were, but it's besides the point. I've removed myself from the case as far as I could for the most part, and it no longer matters to me. Thank you for the blessing.

You have in place practically one of the largest monetary claims of all. You're lying.

Yeah it might be nice to get some more money, but it literally doesn't mean a thing to me. My father passed away recently.

Vokain if you want feel free to come talk with me in Bitmessage so perhaps money won't be an issue for you soon. Is New Orleans helping you with your grief?

Btw I hope readers know that Vokain gave away 10s of BTC to me (via rpietila) to distribute to typhoon victims in the Philippines in 2013. I still have the receipts and several photos of new roofs funded were posted in rpietila's thread.

This is a very young man doing that level of charity.

You know, it's not so bad because I got to learn who my dad is. I'm at peace. I'm definitely thankful for New Orleans.

[macsga]

If I may be excused, I have the urge to put online a transcript of a Russian song by Vasya Oblomov and OST Duhless. If you can bear the language, I'd indulge you to watch it. It may (as with the song) leave you with a bittersweet taste of what I call the "meaning of life" in your mouth...:

We walk on the wide and narrow streets,
Down to the underground passages.
And there is a feeling that we are part of
Some large and undecipherable codes.

We seem to currently be who we want to appear.
Sometimes we think that it is easier to leave,
And then we understand that we had to stay.
We consider ourselves smarter than all who were before us once.

By the quantity of money
we are juging each other in separated classes.
Most of us consider themselves smarter than most
and always arguing with each other about something.

It's some kind of fashion, which has always been.
So worries the sand on the sea floor.
We are rythms of the windows which don't have glass
We are rythms of the streets, which are not awake

And all of our life we wanted to change the world for the better.
Someone wrote about it in prose, some in verse.
But strange feeling of indifference
comes from a plane flying in the clouds.

We are bored living, and this causes us too many problems.
We do what we don't want to do ,
We feel part of fictional systems
Love becomes a habit and commitment.

And from it all that remains is indifference, which morally
cannot be considered as a betrayal.
Every weekdays we are as movie heroes.
The essence is that time changed people,
whether people have changed it.

We are rythms of the windows which don't have glass
We are rythms of the streets, which are not awake
We are rythms of the windows which don't have glass
We are rythms of the streets, which are not awake
We are rythms of the streets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zP8P9oac6Q

PS: Truly wondrous place the human mind; especially those with vast synaptic establishment (ie: high IQ).

[TPTB_need_war]

Besides, pwuille, nullc, lukejr, and petertodd don't need my help bending you over and administering corrective spankings.  They're already doing a great job of that.

They make the same points I made in this thread. Why? Because we are all expert programmers and understand the myriad of (often interlocking and conflicting) details that eye doctors and junior programmers don't.

Btw those linked points by core devs make  the case for the need for a scalable design for crypto-currency.

[cypherdoc]

if you believe in the concept of forum plants, then TPTB_need_war fits the bill to a tee.

i don't know about Shelby Moore but i still think his acct could be mulitply owned and used to troll me down.  the sleep charts i put up yesterday still hold.  read about how their goal is to insert, befriend, divide and cause turmoil and division.  this thread used to be a relatively peaceful place other than the occasional food fight i'd have with tvbcof.  now look what it's become since TPTB_need_war showed up.  as JR says, a trainwreck.  he spams multiple pages on end and is willing to say anything at all.

it all fits and if i have to be the sacrificial lamb to prove it, so be it.  that is his intention after all; to discredit at all costs those who support the community the most.

[vokain]

if you believe in the concept of forum plants, then TPTB_need_war fits the bill to a tee.

i don't know about Shelby Moore but i still think his acct could be mulitply owned and used to troll me down.  the sleep charts i put up yesterday still hold.  read about how their goal is to insert, befriend, divide and cause turmoil and division.  this thread used to be a relatively peaceful place other than the occasional food fight i'd have with tvbcof.  now look what it's become since TPTB_need_war showed up.  as JR says, a trainwreck.

it all fits and if i have to be the sacrificial lamb to prove it, so be it.  that is his intention after all; to discredit at all costs those who support the community the most.

[macsga]

if you believe in the concept of forum plants, then TPTB_need_war fits the bill to a tee.

i don't know about Shelby Moore but i still think his acct could be mulitply owned and used to troll me down.  the sleep charts i put up yesterday still hold.  read about how their goal is to insert, befriend, divide and cause turmoil and division.  this thread used to be a relatively peaceful place other than the occasional food fight i'd have with tvbcof.  now look what it's become since TPTB_need_war showed up.  as JR says, a trainwreck.

it all fits and if i have to be the sacrificial lamb to prove it, so be it.  that is his intention after all; to discredit at all costs those who support the community the most.

Interesting symbol the one on the right. It states the name "KAΛΛIΣTI" which IIRC the proper writing would've been "KAΛΛIΣTΩ". In Greek Mythology "Kαλλιστώ"(=Calisto)  was the daughter of the king of Arcadia, Lycaon. Her name came from the word "KAΛΛOΣ" which in essence means "extraordinary beauty".

[vokain]

The word THI KAΛΛIΣTHI (Ancient Greek: τῇ καλλίστῃ tē(i) kallistē(i), Modern Greek: τη καλλίστη ti kallisti; "for/to the most beautiful") was inscribed on the Golden Apple of Discord by Eris.

http://www.rawilson.com/illuminatus.html#apple

Ironic that this thread is about gold collapsing, when the alchemical pursuit has always been the symbolic process of turning lead into gold.

edit: sorry, 'wrong' excerpt

"Part of it is Chinese," Saul said thoughtfully. "The basic design— two interlocking commas, one
pointing up and the other down. It means that opposites are equal."

"And what does that mean?" Muldoon asked sarcastically. "Opposites are opposite, not equal. You'd
have to be a Chinaman to think otherwise."

Saul ignored the comment. "But the pentagon isn't in the Chinese design— and neither is the apple
with the K in it. . . ." Suddenly, he grinned. "Wait, I'll bet I know what that is. It's from Greek
mythology. There was a banquet on Olympus, and Eris wasn't invited, because she was the Goddess
of Discord and always made trouble. So, to get even, she made more trouble: she created a beautiful
golden apple and wrote on it Kallisti. That means 'for the prettiest one' in Greek. It's what the K
stands for, obviously. Then she rolled it into the banquet hall, and, naturally, all the goddesses there
immediately claimed it, each one saying that she was 'the prettiest one.' Finally, old man Zeus
himself, to settle the squabble, allowed Paris to decide which goddess was the prettiest and should
get the apple. He chose Aphrodite, and as a reward she gave him an opportunity to kidnap Helen,
which led to the Trojan War."

"Very interesting," Muldoon said. "And does that tell us what Joseph Malik knew about the
assassinations of the Kennedys and this Illuminati bunch and why his office was blown up? Or where
he's disappeared to?"

"Well, no," Saul said, "but it's nice to find something in this case that I can recognize. I just wish I
knew what the pentagon means, too. . . ."

"Let's look at the rest of the memos," Muldoon suggested.

"Thank God we don't descend down from perfect Adam & Eve to sinful sinner, Brother's Keeper, divided slave! United, hardworking-trained-brave, from dust we ascend up! Thank God for that! Our Brother's Teacher of the Moral ABC mason Hillel taught carpenter Jesus to unite all mankind free!"
-from a bottle of soap

[TPTB_need_war]

PS: Truly wondrous place the human mind

War in The Mind

[cypherdoc]

Besides, pwuille, nullc, lukejr, and petertodd don't need my help bending you over and administering corrective spankings.  They're already doing a great job of that.

They make the same points I made in this thread. Why? Because we are all expert programmers and understand the myriad of (often interlocking and conflicting) details that eye doctors and junior programmers don't.

Btw those linked points by core devs make  the case for the need for a scalable design for crypto-currency.

everyone should read those 3 links.  i have the most upvotes of the community; votes which include those of programmers and those who disagree with me as it is a net difference.

i used to be intimidated engaging those with a programming background.  somehow i thought that anything they said would be backed up by some computer simulation or research data i didn't have access to.  or some basic computer knowledge that i had not been trained in.  after all, in my profession before anyone dares spout any claims there has to be a double blinded comprehensive treatment control study done over a prolonged period of time that needs to prove statistical significance that one has done or can point to have been done.

i've learned, most disappointedly, that this is not the case for most coders and programmers.  what they claim or tout to be fact is simply a logic test.  armchair logic.  like the Peter Todd's of the world and TPTB_need_war.  they don't do any testing or simulations of any kind.  they think that their logic is somehow superior to non coders.  and they think simply by applying logic they can understand how Bitcoin will perform.  well, they have mostly all been wrong.  very few of them saw it.  and not TPTB_need_war.  he needs to explain how someone like me, a non coder, figured this out before he did.  granted, i am pretty good with computers and even better now since 2011.  but i will tell you, it was mostly my knowledge around economics, trading, and game theory which allowed me to figure out that Bitcoin had so much promise.  but what is clear from TPTB's comments is that he totally rejects that.  that is called arrogance or hubris.  or more likely obfuscation from a plant.  please re-read how bizarre his posts truly are.  it's baffling. 

[cypherdoc]

could it be that we are actually talking to Martin Armstrong himself?  maybe that would explain the blind allegiance.
here is an interesting compilation of his prison writings.  and this was the very first one i pulled up!  whats the chances of them both being blind in one eye?  from an eye doctor:

https://www.scribd.com/kzuur58:

[vokain]

could it be that we are actually talking to Martin Armstrong himself?  maybe that would explain the blind allegiance.
here is an interesting compilation of his prison writings.  and this was the very first one i pulled up!  whats the chances of them both being blind in one eye?  from an eye doctor:

https://www.scribd.com/kzuur58:

Have you ever heard the saying, "in lak'ech ala k'in"?

[macsga]

could it be that we are actually talking to Martin Armstrong himself?  maybe that would explain the blind allegiance.
here is an interesting compilation of his prison writings.  and this was the very first one i pulled up!  whats the chances of them both being blind in one eye?  from an eye doctor:

https://www.scribd.com/kzuur58:

Have you ever heard the saying, "in lak'ech ala k'in"?

"I am you, and you are me"... Mayan philosophy.

[vokain]

That's my favorite song by my favorite band

[cypherdoc]

could it be that we are actually talking to Martin Armstrong himself?  maybe that would explain the blind allegiance.
here is an interesting compilation of his prison writings.  and this was the very first one i pulled up!  whats the chances of them both being blind in one eye?  from an eye doctor:

https://www.scribd.com/kzuur58:

Have you ever heard the saying, "in lak'ech ala k'in"?

given that you willingly interjected yourself into the conversation to provoke me, then fully doxxed me, then lied about not having a multi-6-figure ongoing claim against HF, do you really think you have the moral high ground to wax philosophical?

[vokain]

could it be that we are actually talking to Martin Armstrong himself?  maybe that would explain the blind allegiance.
here is an interesting compilation of his prison writings.  and this was the very first one i pulled up!  whats the chances of them both being blind in one eye?  from an eye doctor:

https://www.scribd.com/kzuur58:

Have you ever heard the saying, "in lak'ech ala k'in"?

given that you willingly interjected yourself into the conversation to provoke me, then fully doxxed me, then lied about not having a multi-6-figure ongoing claim against HF, do you really think you have the moral high ground to wax philosophical?

"Now look what you made me do."

http://pastebin.com/4v2Sr0Sf

[TPTB_need_war]

Love Song to a Stranger

[cypherdoc]

Love Song to a Stranger

sheesh, i know the feeling:

According to lawyers who worked on the case in the early days, the financier’s headstrong manner irritated Judge Owen almost immediately."[10] On August 17, 2006, he pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to commit securities fraud, commodities fraud and wire fraud.[2][11]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_A._Armstrong

[Adrian-x]

if you believe in the concept of forum plants, then TPTB_need_war fits the bill to a tee.

i don't know about Shelby Moore but i still think his acct could be mulitply owned and used to troll me down.  the sleep charts i put up yesterday still hold.  read about how their goal is to insert, befriend, divide and cause turmoil and division.  this thread used to be a relatively peaceful place other than the occasional food fight i'd have with tvbcof.  now look what it's become since TPTB_need_war showed up.  as JR says, a trainwreck.  he spams multiple pages on end and is willing to say anything at all.

it all fits and if i have to be the sacrificial lamb to prove it, so be it.  that is his intention after all; to discredit at all costs those who support the community the most.

Trolled so hard I have to I can't help myself LOL, you don't always go on holiday with the best people cypher.

[cypherdoc]

Love Song to a Stranger

hmmm, there's that $10000 number again:

Armstrong didn’t tell anyone about pi. He kept it a secret for twelve years, and he continued to sell his services as a consultant at up to ten thousand dollars an hour.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/10/12/the-secret-cycle