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1761  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 05, 2023, 07:24:35 AM
I remember that when Barcelona and Real Madrid dominated it was boring, but I'm very happy because I'm a Real Madrid fan. Today is different Girona was able to give a surprise until week 15. Let's see until the end of the season if they are able to stabilize. If it can, it's a big surprise.

Others I heard Real Madrid made a final offer for Mbaape. Although it looks unofficial because FIFA prohibits the offer of players a maximum of 6 months before the contract is completed. It seems that January will be the last offer Madrid will submit
Source: https://www.goal.com/id/daftar/kylian-mbappe-real-madrid-paris-saint-germain-ligue-1-la-liga-transfer/blt14f49bfc1c4d0a57#csab111db48bc3da16

I don’t think those times were boring because it was a competition between two clubs (at least two because sometimes Atlético interfered in the fight), if compared, for example, with the dominance of Bayern or Juventus, those were good times.
Now, at least on paper, there are 4 clubs fighting for the title and judging by how Barcelona are winning tough games, they will not give up easily.
As for Real's offer to Mbappe, I think that this is another rumor and fiction, Real is waiting for an offer from Mbappe and not vice versa.
1762  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 05, 2023, 07:15:50 AM
Bayern have no problems in the Bundesliga and, on the contrary, they lack strong opponents to train with, so I expect Bayern to play at full strength and therefore most likely to beat United. Moreover, the game could end with a score of 3-5 or something like that (if United is able to resist), but I think that Bayern will win. The most interesting thing is who will win in the Copenhagen - Galatasaray pair. Both teams played solid football and it's a pity that someone had to be the loser.
I've often said this actually, that they are already comfortable when passing the 4th match, they just need to relax and wait for their next opponent in the Champions League. But will they be able to accept being defeated by Manchester United? in my opinion not, because prestige is also at stake there. They also looked not very ambitious in the previous match and could only play a draw and I think that's what they will do, if they don't win then at least they don't lose, that's the most realistic in my opinion.

Last year, Bayern qualified after the 4th round, but this did not stop them from beating Barcelona away with a score of 3-0, and then Inter at home with a score of 2-0. Bayern is not a team that will give points to anyone even if the game has no tournament significance. In addition, Müller said after the game with Copenhagen that he was angry that they could not win. It is logical to assume that now some of this anger and dissatisfaction will go on United  Grin
1763  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I could have won bigger. on: December 05, 2023, 07:05:10 AM
Just focus on the amount that you have won, that alone is already a good profit. Do not think of the money that your friend has borrowed from you, he will surely give it back when he has funds already. And when you have it already, then try to gamble it as you might be lucky again and win another significant amount.

My point is once you let someone borrow from you, then trust that he will return it to you in time. And if ever he missed his promise, most likely he's in a bad situation that he finds it hard to pay you back so be more patient about it. After all, you can still gamble even if he won't pay you, so just try to focus on your gambling and be contented whatever profits you have gained at that moment.

I don’t think that the advice to wait until the debt is repaid and then use this money for gambling is good. As I understand it, the OP is not just playing for fun, but is very focused on the possible profit. Considering that the odds he bets on are quite high, it is difficult to hope that he will again receive such a win in the next few bets.
I would advise him to cool down, not try to change the past and only then make serious bets again.
1764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gambling and Invest in gambling. on: December 05, 2023, 06:57:03 AM
I think no one lends money (especially to gamblers) without collateral, so if a gambler loses, then he can simply admit this fact and simply forfeit his collateral, rather than invent ways to get new funding. But I agree that although the majority of gamblers are adequate people, there are many addicted people, so engaging in this business for many people can have an immoral connotation.
If one lend money to a gambler that means the lender too is also gambling because there are always a possibility that the gambler might lose or win but if the gambler win, with the joy in him or her, they might give you back the money or even add extra to it, but just imagine if the gambler lose the money you lend to him or her.
As there is no sure odds in gamble, I don't think a gambler can always.

Yes, lending can be considered as gambling, but there are significant differences: usually those who issue loans are well aware of the non-return rate and they take this into account in the interest rate on the loan. It turns out that, in a sense, honest borrowers pay for dishonest ones. I can suggest that in gambling the percentage of non-returns can be too high, so collateral is still the optimal solution.
1765  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 05, 2023, 06:51:34 AM
Probably if Newcastle considers him as an option then yes. I heard that he recently had surgery related to his vision and wears glasses (maybe temporarily?). For a goalkeeper, vision is one of the most important qualities, but apparently it was a planned operation and there is nothing serious if Newcastle are thinking about signing him. Pope's injury is another force majeure event for Newcastle and for my fantasy team. This will be another forced transfer  Undecided
An option as a loan for 1 season would be better, not a permanent contract?

David De Gea is now quite old, if for example Newcastle only brought in to replace Pope during the recovery of 1 season then I think De Gea would be very suitable he is still quite skilled despite his age.

With the surgery that has been done is it likely to affect his performance? Moreover, using glasses for clearer vision for him.
But I think this is just a rumor not necessarily and I read the news that indeed David De Gea is very open to the offer.

De Gea cannot be loaned as he is a free agent. Therefore, you can sign a contract with him of any duration, even for 4 months while Pope recovers (unless, of course, there are any restrictions from the players’ union or the like).
I am increasingly inclined to believe that this is the best option for De Gea himself - he can prove to everyone that he is still a top goalkeeper and then either sign a contract with a big club or go to Saudi Arabia on favorable terms.
1766  Local / Идеи / Re: Форк bitcointalk.org on: December 04, 2023, 08:43:28 PM
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Я так понимаю, что основная идея автора топика - это перенос всех аккаунтов с их местными рангами. Может кто-нибудь и заморочился бы, если бы возник устойчивый спрос у большой группы местных контент мейкеров. Но такого спроса нет и не предвидится. В большинстве случаев, самые активные пользователи тут - лижут зад термосу по поводу и без. Большая часть постов на толчке про то, как принести больше пользы толчку. Форум про форум)))

Местные контентмейкеры за 200 баксов в неделю вам контента наваяют как стахановцы  Wink И это неудивительно ибо не все живут в развитых странах, а 800 баксов в месяц при проживании в какой-нибудь убогой стране это большие деньги.

~хз стоит ли форк свеч?  

Платить будет тот кто будет форкать, обычные юзеры как и при криптофорках получат активы в двух сетях, вин-вин ситуация.

А если создать что-то вроде гибрида форума и DAO, где каждый пользователь имеет определенный вес на форуме и может влиять на его развитие?

Думаю это уже отдельная идея. Даже бтт в определенных границах самоуправляемая организация и все влияют на его развитие. Что касается ДАО, то как уже ниже написали оно может быть взломано, ну и все-таки это уже совсем иное, а я предлагаю форк с +- тем же функционалом.

А как же тот факт, что сам формат общения через форумы давно устарел? Тут форкай-не форкай, но рекламодателям не важны ранги на какой-то древнего вида площадке, им важен траффик. А траффик скорее привлечет современная платформа, где будут адекватно реализованы взаимодействия между контент мейкерами и контент консюмерами. Этот форум относительно популярен только из-за связи с создателем Биткоина Сатоши Накамото, но убери этот факт (сделай форк) и никакой привлекательности уже не останется. ~

Ерунда. Пойдите поищите ЦА миксеров в тик-токе, крайне современная платформа, как думаете какова конверсия будет? М?
Что касается мощей накамоткина на них всем наплевать. Будут за контент платить 200 баксов в неделю - будет куча желающих (квалифицированных) этот контент делать и никакие мощи никого волновать не будут (как не волнуют и сейчас).

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А новая система требует изначальных инвестиций, а кто в это будет вкладываться? И главное зачем? Я не говорю, что ничего нового не появится - если есть спрос, то обычно появляется и предложение.
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Инвесторами могут быть как владельцы миксеров, так и кто-то желающий рискнуть и сделать стартапчик который потом будет приносить бабло. Может быть какой-нибудь Букелеле решит хайпануть и напомнить о себе - ему лям баксов потратить как бороду почесать (не свои же деньги). Возможно много вариантов.

Да, пожалуй, вариант альтернативы кстати ведь предлагал и сам теймос, это децентрализованная организация, DAO.  
Только вот как вообще подходить к вопросу зеркалирования данных на такую площадку и на основе какого движка она должна работать ?  Вроде надо одобрение сообществом, без этого как-то некомильфо. А будет ли оно это большинство согласных пользователей неизвестно. Вообщем тут масса сложностей возникает.
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Всё это решаемая фигня и технические детали. Сообщество голосует ногами если хочет на новую площадку, то регается, если не хочет то не регается.

P.S. Я кстати эту идею давным-давно продумывал, еще когда правил бал ДТ беспредел и всякие хуилы из англораздела себя богами мнили.
1767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: CASHOUT OR NOT???? on: December 04, 2023, 05:35:54 PM
Like seriously, you play with some money and you are fortunate to win some more money, like what the hell are you waiting for? Right now you should have taken your profits because if one of those two games go wrong you will lose all the money, like why are you been greedy right now? You don't work for that money, take this as fact or leave it, gambling money is like not breaking a sweat and making money, no skills or services got rendered from you.

Greed will likely take over if you don't feel satisfies with money you win in a gamble, many people don't really accept gambling as lucky, they always take it too far until they lose everything, if you really understand the mind behind gambling you will be one of the safest gambler alive, when people are losing fortune you will be smiling because you truly understand what gambling is all about.

Have you thought that if the remaining games have exactly the same outcomes that the OP expected, he will then suffer that greed forced him to take the money ahead of time and he received only 20 (or whatever) percent of the amount he could have won?
I don’t like to cash out, it seems to me that at the moment when you place a bet you should choose the right odds for yourself - not too large (so that you don’t want to take the money ahead of time) and not too small (so that you feel the excitement).
1768  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gambling and Invest in gambling. on: December 04, 2023, 05:29:14 PM
The last thing I will ever do is lend money to a gambler as a way to assist them to gamble more, a gambler who have gambled until he or she lost all their money also have the potentials also lossing the money they borrowed, or was lended to them, and we all know that, if a gambler loses the money he or she borrowed to gamble, there won't be any way for him or her to pay back the money except he or she looks for an external source.

So for me, I completely disagree with the Ops idea or method of quiting gambling to invest in it rather, I will rather play the gambling myself than lend some one money to do it.

I think no one lends money (especially to gamblers) without collateral, so if a gambler loses, then he can simply admit this fact and simply forfeit his collateral, rather than invent ways to get new funding. But I agree that although the majority of gamblers are adequate people, there are many addicted people, so engaging in this business for many people can have an immoral connotation.
1769  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 04, 2023, 04:49:44 PM
Apart from the rumors circulating about David De Gea possibly heading to the Saudi league, quite surprising news came from Newcastle because they were interested in bringing the former Manchester United goalkeeper to St James Park. I think it is the right decision for Newcastle if they can get David De Gea, who is still a free agent until now and we will see David De Gea return to the EPL with a different club.

Newcastle is trying to take this step because Nick Pope reportedly suffered a dislocated shoulder after the match against Manchester United last week and it is possible that he will be out for up to 4 months. What do you think? Is David De Gea the right goalkeeper for Newcastle?

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12822889/Newcastle-consider-shock-David-Gea-Man-Uniteds-former-goalkeeper-option-replace-injured-Nick-Pope-four-months-hell-wage-cut.html

Probably if Newcastle considers him as an option then yes. I heard that he recently had surgery related to his vision and wears glasses (maybe temporarily?). For a goalkeeper, vision is one of the most important qualities, but apparently it was a planned operation and there is nothing serious if Newcastle are thinking about signing him. Pope's injury is another force majeure event for Newcastle and for my fantasy team. This will be another forced transfer  Undecided
1770  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I could have won bigger. on: December 04, 2023, 04:42:08 PM

Good day everyone,,, I would like to share my winning with you guys, but I am not just doing it because I won the bet, but it is because it wasn't the amount I wanted to stake that I staked.

A friend of mine collected $10 from me earlier yesterday and I wanted to use the money to gamble, but based on, he is my friend. I gave him the $10 he asked for, and the guy said he would return the $10 back ASAP after 3 hours, but he didn't and the $10 was the amount and same money I wanted to use and stake a bet (I have some coins but don't have cash and I don't want to sell any penny of my coins for any reason). But letter on, I used 1000 naira ($1) to stake the bet and I won 49,814 naira (about $50+).

Now I am angry at my friend because he didn't keep to his words. Although I am still happy about the win, I wish he had given me back the $10. Then, I would have win bigger money.

I wonder, if you lost a bet, would you be grateful to your friend?  Wink
In general, I understand you - it’s always annoying when people don’t fulfill their obligations. But I wouldn’t advise you to look into the past and think “what would have happened if I had made a bigger bet” or “what would have happened if I had bet on another team” - these are useless thoughts. What happened has already happened, and when you already know the outcome, you will never return to that moment when you don’t know it yet - these are completely different situations and you shouldn’t think that “everything was obvious.”
1771  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casinos after the shutdowns of mixers on: December 04, 2023, 04:33:08 PM
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The important question here: how will casinos respond to this new landscape, and what measures will they take and implement to face the challenges posed by recent developments? Probably many users will join casinos for an alternative of mixer.

Casinos have been fighting against being used as mixers or whitewashers for a very long time, so it's unlikely that much will change for them. Another thing is how the situation on the forum will change. But there is no point in guessing; first we need to wait for January 1st and see how strictly the mixers will be “removed” from here. In any case, we can say that a free niche appears and it will be filled with something.
1772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 04, 2023, 04:28:38 PM
Not entirely sure Bayern Munich will give Manchester United an easy victory, because even though Bayern Munich has qualified for the round of 16 but I am sure. Of course Bayern Munich will still play their key players, although maybe not completely but at least Bayern Munich will also try not to be defeated by Manchester Untied. Because yes, of course Bayern Munich also has prestige and thus, then Bayern Munich will not play elephant football to let Manchester United win easily, I am sure that will not happen.

Bayern have no problems in the Bundesliga and, on the contrary, they lack strong opponents to train with, so I expect Bayern to play at full strength and therefore most likely to beat United. Moreover, the game could end with a score of 3-5 or something like that (if United is able to resist), but I think that Bayern will win. The most interesting thing is who will win in the Copenhagen - Galatasaray pair. Both teams played solid football and it's a pity that someone had to be the loser.
1773  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 04, 2023, 03:43:47 PM
in the following week match it will be big match even though Girona can actually be said to be small team but I still have confidence that Barcelona will win against Girona with the existing players Barcelona will be able to win like Atletico Madrid defeated with narrow score and this must be done Barcelona if not Girona wants to be too far behind in points and it looks like Girona will also be tough this time after reaching top of standings and being displaced by Madrid Girona will try hard to hold a draw or win match but for me its too early Girona can beat big teams and in fact they can also be beaten Real madrid that time and this time Barcelona will have a chance to beat Girona.

Judging by the team statistics, BTTS looks like an inevitability. I hope that Girona has reached its limit of failures in the game with Real. It would be good if Girona wins and breaks away from Barcelona by 4 points. And I think that this will be quite fair: Barcelona mostly wins games very hard and with a minimal advantage, maybe it’s time for random to play against them?
1774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Bundesliga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: December 04, 2023, 03:17:10 PM
~snip
If Bayer still wins, I will be glad that I was mistaken, the only unpleasant option for me will be a draw.

and all we got is a draw
have to say that Bayer deserved a win more than Dortmund, but it is football after all, and chances are not counted as goals

Sunday was particularly odd in terms of results, and rare event to see some players picked good results
Augsburg winning and Augsburg has 6 matches without a lose since they changed manager, have to say that it was a good decision, although a bit unexpected from my side

Yes, as you can see, two series were doomed to end and the result from this point of view is super logical. It's funny that I was completely confident that I had bet on Dortmund. In any case I would have received zero points because of draw, but I was amazed to see that I had chosen 2-1 in favor of Bayer - as always, I bet in a hurry and either mixed up or "believed" the bookmakers.
1775  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: December 04, 2023, 03:12:36 PM
Only direwolf, rdbase and KTChampions could pick a draw for City Spurs and none of them got the exact score. If I'm not mistaken City has either lost or drawn to all the title contenders, is that amazing this season or what?
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Yes, this is the third draw in a row for City and there is a game with Aston Villa ahead - I wonder who will bet against City? A fourth draw in a row against a team at the top of the league looks quite logical.
What surprised me most was that I guessed the exact score of the Chelsea - Brighton game. Lol I don’t even remember what I was thinking when I chose 3-2, but besides me, another person made a prediction for this outcome.
1776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 04, 2023, 03:06:46 PM
But can't a difficult game happen right away in the 1/8? If I remember correctly the regulations, the second places in the groups will play knockout matches with the clubs that will take third place in the groups in the Champions League. These can be very strong clubs like PSG, Milan or Newcastle. And then the first places in the group stage of the Europa League will play with the winners of these games.
You remember correctly. Being second in the UEL means facing the third-place teams from the UCL. That's why first place is much more important in UEL than second place. There are very strong teams from UCL that will join the UEL and the championship chances of these teams are quite high. That's why UEL is getting more exciting at this stage.

You did not understand the idea that I am trying to convey: in the 1/8 finals of the Europa League, the first places in the groups will play against the winners of the pairs “second places in the Europa League versus third places in the Champions League.” Therefore, any team that takes first place in the group can ultimately meet with a very strong team from the Champions League - straight into the 1/8. The actual benefit of taking first place is that you don't have to play an extra two games to get to the 1/8 finals.
1777  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 04, 2023, 01:13:38 PM
In my opinion, there are quite interesting quotes for the game Aston Villa - City:

4.21 - 4.12 - 1.72

Despite the fact that City are stricken with a drawn series and cannot win head-to-head matches against direct competitors, bookmakers rate them very highly. The difference between the teams is only 1 point. Should we expect City to "revert to the mean" and start winning, or will they finally lose? If they lose, a third loss in 15 games would be highly unusual. Therefore, I would rather bet on City drawing again (although I am biased as I rooting against them).
1778  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 04, 2023, 01:07:11 PM
This is not the first match in which Dortmund has acted in this way against a strong opponent, they did something similar in the match against Newcastle. For Dortmund, an away draw is a completely acceptable result, but for Bayer it is a loss of very important points, now Bayern will almost certainly be able to take advantage of these and get ahead of them, although if they win they will be equal on points, but Bayern will have a better goal difference.

If we talk about the theoretical situation, Bayer still have an advantage - firstly, for Bayern to catch up with them, they still have to win the game in hand. Secondly, even if Bayern wins, the teams will have an equal number of points, but the remaining head-to-head game will be on Bayer's field where they can tip the scales in their favor. But these are theoretical considerations, it is clear that Bayern actually remains a very big favorite.
1779  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 04, 2023, 12:54:02 PM
It ended 3-0, it's a pity. I hoped that Inter would not be so clearly in the lead. And yes, in Serie A they really are monsters - they have a goal difference of +26, no one can boast  even nearly of such efficiency in the game. It’s good that Juventus is not far behind and perhaps we will see some intrigue.
I’m glad that Roma returned to the top 4, even if their position there is very precarious, but after such a disgusting start, this is a great result.

Regarding Roma, I think they were about to lose the important two points in the game they had against Sassuolo but the Danish player of Roma, Rasmus Kristensen saved the team and made the game 2-1. While Sassuolo scored the first goal in this game, Dybala and Kristensen scored two goals for Roma to decrease the pressure on this team Mourinho

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Such victories give confidence to the players. In the last 4 games Roma scored 10 points, a very good result. There will be a very difficult section of the championship ahead (Fiorentina - Bologna - Napoli - Juventus - Atalanta - Milan LOOOL) and now is the time to score points because later it will be much more difficult.
Surprisingly, this third season for Mourinho, although it started badly, is now becoming good. They have every chance to get into the top 4.
1780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 03, 2023, 09:56:55 PM
Thanks to this result, Man City dropped to third place in the standings with 30 points. Meanwhile, Tottenham is stuck in 5th place with 27 points.
So you happy that Manchester city dropped to 3rd position, seriously today's draw really affected Manchester city, they are currently at the 3rd position which am sure Guardiola won’t really like, but I don’t see anything bad in Manchester city dropping to 3rd position, just 14 matches have been played, and Arsenal which is in first position is ahead of Manchester City with just 3 points, Liverpool which is in 2nd position is just ahead of Manchester city with just 1 point, so the points which the 2 clubs are using to lead Manchester City is kind small, Manchester city can easily go back to their first position if their is any slight mistake, so the three clubs are still the one fighting for the league title this season, and I still have hope in Manchester City to win the league, even as they are currently in 3rd position.

City are the favorites, but it’s quite suspicious that in the games with Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham they only scored three points (and conceded 8 goals), don’t you think? I don't know what this means or if they're on a decline, but obviously they're not as dominant as they were last season. The upcoming game against strong Aston Villa should perhaps clarify something.
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