Why I'm an atheist

[HateNATO]

I started to stop being atheist because I started to begging a good for my better family situaction and financial situaction and I have some feeling that he listen me.NOw everything is going better and better.Better trust to God.

[popcorn1]

Quite the opposite. The fact that God is recognized by peoples from around the world shows that God exists. The fact that atheists say, often adamantly, that God doesn't exist, when they don't know that He doesn't exist, shows that they are setting themselves up as gods (by making a strong claim they don't know is true), at the same time they are denouncing His existence. They are essentially denouncing their own existence.

If you actually start studying history and examine the first gods, and the transition from animism to the first gods

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler

Images of An giving the ruler and the rod to Sumerian kings etc. is made in order to make people believe they must respect the king and the law!

May he be damned by the gods who disobeys these laws, and may he be praised who follows them...
The first law tablets were made up to 2500 BC (Urukagin, Urnamu...)

Gods were made for control!
Other nations saw it as convient, and applied it

You can see many nations after conquering an area changing the meaning of gods, inventing new ones, and expelling old ones
For example Marduk taking over and giving kingship to kings

Soon, Christianty was invented and since it was so liberal for the common folk, they started embracing it
And as every other religion it was forbidden
After the commoners started adapting it faster

Roman emperors (NOT CHRISTIANS!!) realized the new religion also has phrases about respecting the king and the kingdom, so it sees it as a new religion that will bide the kingdom together and make it stronger

And so it does

That is the story, of how religion became

If you study history without using new knowledge only to adapt it to your previous ideas, you'll realize how religion became

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler..NOPE..

SOUND OF THUNDER..Started all the god stories..

Just think weather is to blame for quite a lot of things..Even the way we look..

[BADecker]

Quite the opposite. The fact that God is recognized by peoples from around the world shows that God exists. The fact that atheists say, often adamantly, that God doesn't exist, when they don't know that He doesn't exist, shows that they are setting themselves up as gods (by making a strong claim they don't know is true), at the same time they are denouncing His existence. They are essentially denouncing their own existence.

If you actually start studying history and examine the first gods, and the transition from animism to the first gods

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler

Images of An giving the ruler and the rod to Sumerian kings etc. is made in order to make people believe they must respect the king and the law!

May he be damned by the gods who disobeys these laws, and may he be praised who follows them...
The first law tablets were made up to 2500 BC (Urukagin, Urnamu...)

Gods were made for control!
Other nations saw it as convient, and applied it

You can see many nations after conquering an area changing the meaning of gods, inventing new ones, and expelling old ones
For example Marduk taking over and giving kingship to kings

Soon, Christianty was invented and since it was so liberal for the common folk, they started embracing it
And as every other religion it was forbidden
After the commoners started adapting it faster

Roman emperors (NOT CHRISTIANS!!) realized the new religion also has phrases about respecting the king and the kingdom, so it sees it as a new religion that will bide the kingdom together and make it stronger

And so it does

That is the story, of how religion became

If you study history without using new knowledge only to adapt it to your previous ideas, you'll realize how religion became

Certainly some people use religious authority for controlling people for whatever reason. But you would have to know all religious history before you could make a reasonably accurate determination about who held places of leadership in religions, and why.

It is much easier to study the atheism religion to see that university people, scientists, and government people are making money controlling people into the religion of atheism today.

[BADecker]

Quite the opposite. The fact that God is recognized by peoples from around the world shows that God exists. The fact that atheists say, often adamantly, that God doesn't exist, when they don't know that He doesn't exist, shows that they are setting themselves up as gods (by making a strong claim they don't know is true), at the same time they are denouncing His existence. They are essentially denouncing their own existence.

If you actually start studying history and examine the first gods, and the transition from animism to the first gods

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler

Images of An giving the ruler and the rod to Sumerian kings etc. is made in order to make people believe they must respect the king and the law!

May he be damned by the gods who disobeys these laws, and may he be praised who follows them...
The first law tablets were made up to 2500 BC (Urukagin, Urnamu...)

Gods were made for control!
Other nations saw it as convient, and applied it

You can see many nations after conquering an area changing the meaning of gods, inventing new ones, and expelling old ones
For example Marduk taking over and giving kingship to kings

Soon, Christianty was invented and since it was so liberal for the common folk, they started embracing it
And as every other religion it was forbidden
After the commoners started adapting it faster

Roman emperors (NOT CHRISTIANS!!) realized the new religion also has phrases about respecting the king and the kingdom, so it sees it as a new religion that will bide the kingdom together and make it stronger

And so it does

That is the story, of how religion became

If you study history without using new knowledge only to adapt it to your previous ideas, you'll realize how religion became

You'll realize, that the gods were made up in order to give authority to the ruler..NOPE..

SOUND OF THUNDER..Started all the god stories..

Just think weather is to blame for quite a lot of things..Even the way we look..

Way back, in the beginning of history times, people were intelligent enough, before all the devolution that has set in today, to understand what God was saying when He spoke with His voice of thunder.

[the rise]

I want to ask two questions to the atheist followers:

1. If you are frustrated and very severe emotional in your life, what you think and do to soothe your soul back?
-Many cases in Japan and Korea, which states that many atheists who committed suicide because they could no longer control its spiritual side.

2. When you know that you are going to die (such as illness or death penalty). Are you not worried that after death you will be a zero point that will not bounce back?
-In many religious teachings that explains the process after death. But not with atheists.

[BADecker]

Way back, in the beginning of history times, people were intelligent enough, before all the devolution that has set in today, to understand what God was saying when He spoke with His voice of thunder.

Are you sure? They were riding donkeys and living in caves.  Believing in Osiris (aka Jesus) etc.

You weren't there. So, you are wrong! How can I say that you are wrong accurately? Bible history. Take a look at why the Bible is a miracle of God here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1566146.msg17648127#msg17648127.

[iluvbitcoins]

I want to ask two questions to the atheist followers:

1. If you are frustrated and very severe emotional in your life, what you think and do to soothe your soul back?
-Many cases in Japan and Korea, which states that many atheists who committed suicide because they could no longer control its spiritual side.

2. When you know that you are going to die (such as illness or death penalty). Are you not worried that after death you will be a zero point that will not bounce back?
-In many religious teachings that explains the process after death. But not with atheists.

Everyone is sad when he realizes there is no God

Were you not sad when you realized there was no Santa?

I got afterlife taken away from me
I was sad for a long time

But I lived on, because I live in reality, not in fairytales
If I wanted to, I could believe when I die 600 big boobed virgins will fuck me throughout a year
But what's the purpose of it if I know it's not going to happen?

I accepted my life ends with my death, and that's what makes it all the more special

[fasdorcas]

i think you have to first research about all the exiting religions and science as well widely and then you have to ask it from yourself...... and i think you have the right to join any of the religion if you want ......
but first you research about it......

[BADecker]

I want to ask two questions to the atheist followers:

1. If you are frustrated and very severe emotional in your life, what you think and do to soothe your soul back?
-Many cases in Japan and Korea, which states that many atheists who committed suicide because they could no longer control its spiritual side.

2. When you know that you are going to die (such as illness or death penalty). Are you not worried that after death you will be a zero point that will not bounce back?
-In many religious teachings that explains the process after death. But not with atheists.

Everyone is sad when he realizes there is no God

Were you not sad when you realized there was no Santa?

I got afterlife taken away from me
I was sad for a long time

But I lived on, because I live in reality, not in fairytales
If I wanted to, I could believe when I die 600 big boobed virgins will fuck me throughout a year
But what's the purpose of it if I know it's not going to happen?

I accepted my life ends with my death, and that's what makes it all the more special

Many scientists are sad when they realize that science has become a religion.

The proof that God exists has been around for hundreds of years in the basic science laws, and forever in the evidence of nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

If you believe in science theory, and that God doesn't exist when science law shows that He does exist, you believe in the biggest fairy tale of all.

[Buffer Overflow]

I want to ask two questions to the atheist followers:

1. If you are frustrated and very severe emotional in your life, what you think and do to soothe your soul back?
-Many cases in Japan and Korea, which states that many atheists who committed suicide because they could no longer control its spiritual side.

2. When you know that you are going to die (such as illness or death penalty). Are you not worried that after death you will be a zero point that will not bounce back?
-In many religious teachings that explains the process after death. But not with atheists.

Everyone is sad when he realizes there is no God

Were you not sad when you realized there was no Santa?

I got afterlife taken away from me
I was sad for a long time

But I lived on, because I live in reality, not in fairytales
If I wanted to, I could believe when I die 600 big boobed virgins will fuck me throughout a year
But what's the purpose of it if I know it's not going to happen?

I accepted my life ends with my death, and that's what makes it all the more special

Many scientists are sad when they realize that science has become a religion.

The proof that God exists has been around for hundreds of years in the basic science laws, and forever in the evidence of nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

If you believe in science theory, and that God doesn't exist when science law shows that He does exist, you believe in the biggest fairy tale of all.

Science is guesswork.

[stats]

I want to ask two questions to the atheist followers:

1. If you are frustrated and very severe emotional in your life, what you think and do to soothe your soul back?
-Many cases in Japan and Korea, which states that many atheists who committed suicide because they could no longer control its spiritual side.

2. When you know that you are going to die (such as illness or death penalty). Are you not worried that after death you will be a zero point that will not bounce back?
-In many religious teachings that explains the process after death. But not with atheists.

Everyone is sad when he realizes there is no God

Were you not sad when you realized there was no Santa?

I got afterlife taken away from me
I was sad for a long time

But I lived on, because I live in reality, not in fairytales
If I wanted to, I could believe when I die 600 big boobed virgins will fuck me throughout a year
But what's the purpose of it if I know it's not going to happen?

I accepted my life ends with my death, and that's what makes it all the more special

Many scientists are sad when they realize that science has become a religion.

The proof that God exists has been around for hundreds of years in the basic science laws, and forever in the evidence of nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

If you believe in science theory, and that God doesn't exist when science law shows that He does exist, you believe in the biggest fairy tale of all.

Your words are not the truth and are certainly not proof. They are nothing apart from your belief.

By posting your words as truth and as proof you are setting yourself up as a Messiah?

I wonder what your god says about that?

[BADecker]

I want to ask two questions to the atheist followers:

1. If you are frustrated and very severe emotional in your life, what you think and do to soothe your soul back?
-Many cases in Japan and Korea, which states that many atheists who committed suicide because they could no longer control its spiritual side.

2. When you know that you are going to die (such as illness or death penalty). Are you not worried that after death you will be a zero point that will not bounce back?
-In many religious teachings that explains the process after death. But not with atheists.

Everyone is sad when he realizes there is no God

Were you not sad when you realized there was no Santa?

I got afterlife taken away from me
I was sad for a long time

But I lived on, because I live in reality, not in fairytales
If I wanted to, I could believe when I die 600 big boobed virgins will fuck me throughout a year
But what's the purpose of it if I know it's not going to happen?

I accepted my life ends with my death, and that's what makes it all the more special

Many scientists are sad when they realize that science has become a religion.

The proof that God exists has been around for hundreds of years in the basic science laws, and forever in the evidence of nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

If you believe in science theory, and that God doesn't exist when science law shows that He does exist, you believe in the biggest fairy tale of all.

Your words are not the truth and are certainly not proof. They are nothing apart from your belief.

By posting your words as truth and as proof you are setting yourself up as a Messiah?

I wonder what your god says about that?

My words are absolutely not proof. They simply point at the proof in case anyone is interested in finding it out for himself.

Actually, it is the Messiah Who set up my words, through cause and effect. He did it according to my faith in Him. He is, also setting up your words of opposition, according to your lack of faith in Him.

[stats]

I want to ask two questions to the atheist followers:

1. If you are frustrated and very severe emotional in your life, what you think and do to soothe your soul back?
-Many cases in Japan and Korea, which states that many atheists who committed suicide because they could no longer control its spiritual side.

2. When you know that you are going to die (such as illness or death penalty). Are you not worried that after death you will be a zero point that will not bounce back?
-In many religious teachings that explains the process after death. But not with atheists.

Everyone is sad when he realizes there is no God

Were you not sad when you realized there was no Santa?

I got afterlife taken away from me
I was sad for a long time

But I lived on, because I live in reality, not in fairytales
If I wanted to, I could believe when I die 600 big boobed virgins will fuck me throughout a year
But what's the purpose of it if I know it's not going to happen?

I accepted my life ends with my death, and that's what makes it all the more special

Many scientists are sad when they realize that science has become a religion.

The proof that God exists has been around for hundreds of years in the basic science laws, and forever in the evidence of nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

If you believe in science theory, and that God doesn't exist when science law shows that He does exist, you believe in the biggest fairy tale of all.

Your words are not the truth and are certainly not proof. They are nothing apart from your belief.

By posting your words as truth and as proof you are setting yourself up as a Messiah?

I wonder what your god says about that?

My words are absolutely not proof. They simply point at the proof in case anyone is interested in finding it out for himself.

Actually, it is the Messiah Who set up my words, through cause and effect. He did it according to my faith in Him. He is, also setting up your words of opposition, according to your lack of faith in Him.

But you are quoting your own words and stating it as proof. Therefore, you claim it as proof. The reality is it is your idea of proof.

Cause and effect does not prove a "God"... you use cause and effect to assume it as a god. Your whole basis of argument is assumption.

Having no proof does not prove anything.

[GooCust04]

The dispute about whether God exists or not is a waste of time. Like a stupid person can explain to that tale is fiction and never existed. I'm an atheist because there is no scientific evidence for the existence of God.

[BADecker]

I want to ask two questions to the atheist followers:

1. If you are frustrated and very severe emotional in your life, what you think and do to soothe your soul back?
-Many cases in Japan and Korea, which states that many atheists who committed suicide because they could no longer control its spiritual side.

2. When you know that you are going to die (such as illness or death penalty). Are you not worried that after death you will be a zero point that will not bounce back?
-In many religious teachings that explains the process after death. But not with atheists.

Everyone is sad when he realizes there is no God

Were you not sad when you realized there was no Santa?

I got afterlife taken away from me
I was sad for a long time

But I lived on, because I live in reality, not in fairytales
If I wanted to, I could believe when I die 600 big boobed virgins will fuck me throughout a year
But what's the purpose of it if I know it's not going to happen?

I accepted my life ends with my death, and that's what makes it all the more special

Many scientists are sad when they realize that science has become a religion.

The proof that God exists has been around for hundreds of years in the basic science laws, and forever in the evidence of nature:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

If you believe in science theory, and that God doesn't exist when science law shows that He does exist, you believe in the biggest fairy tale of all.

Your words are not the truth and are certainly not proof. They are nothing apart from your belief.

By posting your words as truth and as proof you are setting yourself up as a Messiah?

I wonder what your god says about that?

My words are absolutely not proof. They simply point at the proof in case anyone is interested in finding it out for himself.

Actually, it is the Messiah Who set up my words, through cause and effect. He did it according to my faith in Him. He is, also setting up your words of opposition, according to your lack of faith in Him.

But you are quoting your own words and stating it as proof. Therefore, you claim it as proof. The reality is it is your idea of proof.

Cause and effect does not prove a "God"... you use cause and effect to assume it as a god. Your whole basis of argument is assumption.

Having no proof does not prove anything.

Did you not see? Just because I say that cause and effect is a scientific law, doesn't mean that it is. Yet, my words are proof in the sense that you can use my words as prompting to go and find out that cause and effect are scientific law... from the people who have proven that cause and effect are scientific law... like Newton, in his 3rd law. So, my words ARE proof in the sense that they are backed up by the proof of the scientific laws that others - multitudes of others - have confirmed.

While cause and effect alone does not prove that God exists, it almost does. How? By setting the stage through elimination of any sort of random. A person needs to consider what random really is. And I talk about it in my posts that I list.

There isn't any such thing as random. There is only our lack of observation of cause and effect. We can't see the countless operations of cause and effect - such as all the cause and effect actions by which all the individual electrons move as they do - so we use an artificial random to guess how things work. It is not true random. It is artificial, like when you toss a coin into the air, or roll dice. You use the term random to guess the results of your actions. Yet, there is no random, because it is all the forces of your toss or roll that cause the the results to happen the way that they do.

Why is the fact that there is no random important? It means that all operations of the universe, including life, never happened by accident. They were all caused. That is why EVOLUTION is simply change. It is never any spontaneous form of random effect. There is no form of pure random that has ever been seen or found by anyone. If you think there is some pure random somwhere, show the proof of it that can be confirmed, and has been confirmed by others.

Once you start to understand this, you have set the groundwork for the next two parts... entropy and complexity. Entropy and complexity take you the rest of the way to God.

[stats]

Just because I say that cause and effect is a scientific law, doesn't mean that it is. Yet, my words are proof in the sense that you can use my words as prompting to go and find out that cause and effect are scientific law... from the people who have proven that cause and effect are scientific law... like Newton, in his 3rd law. So, my words ARE proof in the sense that they are backed up by the proof of the scientific laws that others - multitudes of others - have confirmed.

While cause and effect alone does not prove that God exists, it almost does. How? By setting the stage through elimination of any sort of random. A person needs to consider what random really is. And I talk about it in my posts that I list.

There isn't any such thing as random. There is only our lack of observation of cause and effect. We can't see the countless operations of cause and effect - such as all the cause and effect actions by which all the individual electrons move as they do - so we use an artificial random to guess how things work. It is not true random. It is artificial, like when you toss a coin into the air, or roll dice. You use the term random to guess the results of your actions. Yet, there is no random, because it is all the forces of your toss or roll that cause the the results to happen the way that they do.

Why is the fact that there is no random important? It means that all operations of the universe, including life, never happened by accident. They were all caused. That is why EVOLUTION is simply change. It is never any spontaneous form of random effect. There is no form of pure random that has ever been seen or found by anyone. If you think there is some pure random somwhere, show the proof of it that can be confirmed, and has been confirmed by others.

Once you start to understand this, you have set the groundwork for the next two parts... entropy and complexity. Entropy and complexity take you the rest of the way to God.

Oh chuckles..... you make me laugh.

Your entire argument is based on assumptions. You say that cause and effect do not prove there is a god.... but it almost does. You have taken a leap of faith and assumed it to be correct.

You are a passionate little soul and I congratulate you on that. But quoting your own words is delusional.

[iluvbitcoins]

Your words are not law, they are indeed guesswork.

You list a few things in life and your conclusion is it couldn't be anyone else except for a creator.

That's guesswork.

Not science.

[BADecker]

Just because I say that cause and effect is a scientific law, doesn't mean that it is. Yet, my words are proof in the sense that you can use my words as prompting to go and find out that cause and effect are scientific law... from the people who have proven that cause and effect are scientific law... like Newton, in his 3rd law. So, my words ARE proof in the sense that they are backed up by the proof of the scientific laws that others - multitudes of others - have confirmed.

While cause and effect alone does not prove that God exists, it almost does. How? By setting the stage through elimination of any sort of random. A person needs to consider what random really is. And I talk about it in my posts that I list.

There isn't any such thing as random. There is only our lack of observation of cause and effect. We can't see the countless operations of cause and effect - such as all the cause and effect actions by which all the individual electrons move as they do - so we use an artificial random to guess how things work. It is not true random. It is artificial, like when you toss a coin into the air, or roll dice. You use the term random to guess the results of your actions. Yet, there is no random, because it is all the forces of your toss or roll that cause the the results to happen the way that they do.

Why is the fact that there is no random important? It means that all operations of the universe, including life, never happened by accident. They were all caused. That is why EVOLUTION is simply change. It is never any spontaneous form of random effect. There is no form of pure random that has ever been seen or found by anyone. If you think there is some pure random somwhere, show the proof of it that can be confirmed, and has been confirmed by others.

Once you start to understand this, you have set the groundwork for the next two parts... entropy and complexity. Entropy and complexity take you the rest of the way to God.

Oh chuckles..... you make me laugh.

Your entire argument is based on assumptions. You say that cause and effect do not prove there is a god.... but it almost does. You have taken a leap of faith and assumed it to be correct.

You are a passionate little soul and I congratulate you on that. But quoting your own words is delusional.

Don't feel too badly. It takes training to be able to think logically. Keep working at it, and you just might get there sometime. I just hope that it happens soon enough for you to receive some of the revelations God offers, rather than only the simple understanding of His existence. Simple understanding of His existence isn't enough for salvation.

[TooQik]

Did you not see? Just because I say that cause and effect is a scientific law, doesn't mean that it is. Yet, my words are proof in the sense that you can use my words as prompting to go and find out that cause and effect are scientific law... from the people who have proven that cause and effect are scientific law... like Newton, in his 3rd law. So, my words ARE proof in the sense that they are backed up by the proof of the scientific laws that others - multitudes of others - have confirmed.

While cause and effect alone does not prove that God exists, it almost does. How? By setting the stage through elimination of any sort of random. A person needs to consider what random really is. And I talk about it in my posts that I list.

There isn't any such thing as random. There is only our lack of observation of cause and effect. We can't see the countless operations of cause and effect - such as all the cause and effect actions by which all the individual electrons move as they do - so we use an artificial random to guess how things work. It is not true random. It is artificial, like when you toss a coin into the air, or roll dice. You use the term random to guess the results of your actions. Yet, there is no random, because it is all the forces of your toss or roll that cause the the results to happen the way that they do.

Why is the fact that there is no random important? It means that all operations of the universe, including life, never happened by accident. They were all caused. That is why EVOLUTION is simply change. It is never any spontaneous form of random effect. There is no form of pure random that has ever been seen or found by anyone. If you think there is some pure random somwhere, show the proof of it that can be confirmed, and has been confirmed by others.

Once you start to understand this, you have set the groundwork for the next two parts... entropy and complexity. Entropy and complexity take you the rest of the way to God.

Here's an experiment in random for you BADecker, grab a set of Lego blocks, as many shapes, colours and sizes as you can and place them in front of you. Now close your eyes and grab any two pieces and join them together with your eyes still shut. With your eyes still closed, feel around and grab another piece and join it to the connected pieces, repeat as many times as you feel like.

What is the result? Could you have predicted the outcome of colour and shape even though you were the direct cause?

[stats]

Just because I say that cause and effect is a scientific law, doesn't mean that it is. Yet, my words are proof in the sense that you can use my words as prompting to go and find out that cause and effect are scientific law... from the people who have proven that cause and effect are scientific law... like Newton, in his 3rd law. So, my words ARE proof in the sense that they are backed up by the proof of the scientific laws that others - multitudes of others - have confirmed.

While cause and effect alone does not prove that God exists, it almost does. How? By setting the stage through elimination of any sort of random. A person needs to consider what random really is. And I talk about it in my posts that I list.

There isn't any such thing as random. There is only our lack of observation of cause and effect. We can't see the countless operations of cause and effect - such as all the cause and effect actions by which all the individual electrons move as they do - so we use an artificial random to guess how things work. It is not true random. It is artificial, like when you toss a coin into the air, or roll dice. You use the term random to guess the results of your actions. Yet, there is no random, because it is all the forces of your toss or roll that cause the the results to happen the way that they do.

Why is the fact that there is no random important? It means that all operations of the universe, including life, never happened by accident. They were all caused. That is why EVOLUTION is simply change. It is never any spontaneous form of random effect. There is no form of pure random that has ever been seen or found by anyone. If you think there is some pure random somwhere, show the proof of it that can be confirmed, and has been confirmed by others.

Once you start to understand this, you have set the groundwork for the next two parts... entropy and complexity. Entropy and complexity take you the rest of the way to God.

Oh chuckles..... you make me laugh.

Your entire argument is based on assumptions. You say that cause and effect do not prove there is a god.... but it almost does. You have taken a leap of faith and assumed it to be correct.

You are a passionate little soul and I congratulate you on that. But quoting your own words is delusional.

Don't feel too badly. It takes training to be able to think logically. Keep working at it, and you just might get there sometime. I just hope that it happens soon enough for you to receive some of the revelations God offers, rather than only the simple understanding of His existence. Simple understanding of His existence isn't enough for salvation.

Chuckles.... another joke?

You are a funny little fellow.

When you are able to think logically you will have gained a new skill, until then my friend you will continue to speak in an indoctrinated manner.