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March 31, 2018, 12:12:08 AM Last edit: March 31, 2018, 12:37:04 AM by big al |
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How do you guys figure? The stale shares are 2-6% more yet the devfee is only 0.35% higher.
184.5 x 97.02% = 179 claymore 184.2 x 95.376% = 175.7 Phoenix high 184.2 x 91.4% = 168.4 Phoenix low
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janding
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March 31, 2018, 12:24:09 AM |
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How do you guys figure? The stale shares are 2-6% more yet the devfee is only 0.35% higher.
If the pool you are mining at pays something for stale shares ( Ethermine pays .65% for a stale share ) then you loose .35% for every stale share. But if the miner is only charging you .65% instead of 1% then it helps overcome the stale share loss. However, if you mine where the pool does not pay anything for a stale share then it's really bad to have many stale shares. Some pools pay something for stales, others do not. I don't know the list of which do or don't except for Ethermine.
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janding
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March 31, 2018, 01:08:01 AM |
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How do you guys figure? The stale shares are 2-6% more yet the devfee is only 0.35% higher.
184.5 x 97.02% = 179 claymore 184.2 x 95.376% = 175.7 Phoenix high 184.2 x 91.4% = 168.4 Phoenix low
Can't argue with that. I was simply saying it about equals out becaue of the lower fee. Phoenix would have to produce a higher hash rate on the same number of cards to over come the higher stale rate as you have shown. That's one reason I'm staying with Claymore.
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xeridea
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March 31, 2018, 01:40:20 AM |
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phoneix has lower fees so even with stales its a wash imo Yes, you are correct. I forgot to put in the fees with Claymore at 1% and Phoenix at .65% Just about evens out on that front. Ummm, 2% stale vs 4-8% stale? So 0.35% fee is worth losing 4% on stales? at that point just use ethminer....
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Profitability over time charts for many GPUs - http://xeridea.us/chartsBTC: bc1qr2xwjwfmjn43zhrlp6pn7vwdjrjnv5z0anhjhn LTC: LXDm6sR4dkyqtEWfUbPumMnVEiUFQvxSbZ Eth: 0x44cCe2cf90C8FEE4C9e4338Ae7049913D4F6fC24
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groovytechno
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March 31, 2018, 01:56:36 AM |
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Thanks for the nice update to 11.6, Mr. Claymore! On another note - Im sure most, if not all of you might find this info important. Please vote to help keep Ethereum and hopefully other Ethash coins ASIC resistant. I'm sure Claymore wont mind that I bring this up in his thread. Please log into github (make an account if you have to) and hit the thumbs up button. https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/958
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March 31, 2018, 03:08:31 AM |
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Upgraded to 11.6 on my nvidia rig. But there is no difference in Linux. 6 x 1060 3gb and 2 x 1050 ti.
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March 31, 2018, 03:28:07 AM |
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Claymore's Dual Ethereum + Decred/Siacoin/Lbry/Pascal/Blake2s/Keccak AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner. =========================
Latest version is v11.6:
- improved hashrate for weak Nvidia cards by about 1%. - zero devfee for 3GB cards in Windows 10, same as for all 2GB cards. - applied some tricks to increase available memory for 3GB cards in Windows 10 so you can mine ETH a bit longer. - now you can press "y" key to turn on "Compute Mode" in AMD drivers for all cards (Windows only). - Linux version: removed openssl library dependency. - improved "-logfile" option, now you can use it to specify a folder for log files, use slash at the end to do it, for example, "-logfile logs\". - added "-epoolsfile" and "-dpoolsfile" options. - remote management: now "miner_getstat2" command also returns PCI bus index for every GPU. - a few minor bug fixes and improvements.
But where is the Claymore's CryptoNight AMD GPU Miner update??? this is a piderast, while quote all post and you do the same, you two deserve a kick in the @ss!  Hey @Maxmidnite, there is a Search Box on the upper right side of the forum, its somewhat useful Like this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=search2but if you are looking for an update, I guess its in Claymore's waiting list
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Marvell2
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March 31, 2018, 03:33:02 AM |
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phoneix has lower fees so even with stales its a wash imo Yes, you are correct. I forgot to put in the fees with Claymore at 1% and Phoenix at .65% Just about evens out on that front. Ummm, 2% stale vs 4-8% stale? So 0.35% fee is worth losing 4% on stales? at that point just use ethminer.... on my nvidia rig after 24 hours stales repoted by phoniex is 1.2
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janding
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March 31, 2018, 03:34:49 AM |
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phoneix has lower fees so even with stales its a wash imo Yes, you are correct. I forgot to put in the fees with Claymore at 1% and Phoenix at .65% Just about evens out on that front. Ummm, 2% stale vs 4-8% stale? So 0.35% fee is worth losing 4% on stales? at that point just use ethminer.... on my nvidia rig after 24 hours stales repoted by phoniex is 1.2 Is that number from the pool or the display in the miner window ?
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March 31, 2018, 03:53:29 AM |
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phoneix has lower fees so even with stales its a wash imo Yes, you are correct. I forgot to put in the fees with Claymore at 1% and Phoenix at .65% Just about evens out on that front. Ummm, 2% stale vs 4-8% stale? So 0.35% fee is worth losing 4% on stales? at that point just use ethminer.... on my nvidia rig after 24 hours stales repoted by phoniex is 1.2 Is that number from the pool or the display in the miner window ? Edit: Never mind I see you said it was reported by Phoenix. Here is the truth about that number. It is totally worthless. The miner has almost no idea if a share was stale at the pool. Phoenix even states that if you read all the post's from them about that number. Trouble is, few actually read more than one page back in a thread. They rarely mention it because they don't want everyone to know or remember that little fact. So, everyone sees that and accepts it is the actual stale share rate. I've brought that up to them on multiple occasions. In the miner window this is how that message should read: The stale share number about to be displayed is fictional and is presented for entertainment purposes only. Your actual stale share rate can only be know at the pool, not in the miner. Please ignore the above message an tell everyone that this is my stale share rate.
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Marvell2
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March 31, 2018, 04:23:49 AM |
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phoneix has lower fees so even with stales its a wash imo Yes, you are correct. I forgot to put in the fees with Claymore at 1% and Phoenix at .65% Just about evens out on that front. Ummm, 2% stale vs 4-8% stale? So 0.35% fee is worth losing 4% on stales? at that point just use ethminer.... on my nvidia rig after 24 hours stales repoted by phoniex is 1.2 Is that number from the pool or the display in the miner window ? Edit: Never mind I see you said it was reported by Phoenix. Here is the truth about that number. It is totally worthless. The miner has almost no idea if a share was stale at the pool. Phoenix even states that if you read all the post's from them about that number. Trouble is, few actually read more than one page back in a thread. They rarely mention it because they don't want everyone to know or remember that little fact. So, everyone sees that and accepts it is the actual stale share rate. I've brought that up to them on multiple occasions. In the miner window this is how that message should read: The stale share number about to be displayed is fictional and is presented for entertainment purposes only. Your actual stale share rate can only be know at the pool, not in the miner. Please ignore the above message an tell everyone that this is my stale share rate. https://www.ethermine.org/miners/a57EeFabb76Bfd1E9E6ee606999b76BD123aFe32/worker/marvell9-117it says 3% at the pool so yeah the miner lies, I just upgraded to the new phonenix , seema i was on 2.7c ill check stales in 24 hrs
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March 31, 2018, 06:52:41 AM |
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phoneix has lower fees so even with stales its a wash imo Yes, you are correct. I forgot to put in the fees with Claymore at 1% and Phoenix at .65% Just about evens out on that front. Ummm, 2% stale vs 4-8% stale? So 0.35% fee is worth losing 4% on stales? at that point just use ethminer.... Stales mostly depend on the pool's luck. Try running them side by side on similar machines for 24-48h, and then check the stales.
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March 31, 2018, 07:54:37 AM |
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new versions crash at the stage of card definition NVIDIA in Windows 7, if there are more than 6 cards in the rig. The latest version that works with 6+ cards is 11.0. Claymore log: 09:54:05:318 b94 09:54:05:318 b94 ЙHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH» 09:54:05:319 b94 є Claymore's Dual GPU Miner - v11.6 є 09:54:05:319 b94 є ETH + DCR/SIA/LBC/PASC/BLAKE2S/KECCAK є 09:54:05:320 b94 ИHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHj 09:54:05:320 b94 09:54:05:320 b94 b571 09:54:05:521 b94 You enabled full remote management, but did not specify -mpsw option to protect it by password, please do it, otherwise you can be attacked if you share remote management port to internet! Or use negative -mport value to enable read-only remote management mode, see Readme for details. 09:54:10:521 b94 ETH: 1 pool is specified 09:54:10:522 b94 Main Ethereum pool is eu1.ethermine.org:4444 09:54:10:522 b94 B2S: 1 pool is specified 09:54:10:523 b94 Main Blake2s pool is xvg.eu1.unimining.net:5770 09:54:10:685 b94 OpenCL platform: Intel(R) OpenCL 09:54:10:685 b94 OpenCL platform: NVIDIA CUDA 09:54:10:686 b94 AMD OpenCL platform not found 09:54:10:888 b94 CUDA initializing...
09:54:10:889 b94 NVIDIA Cards available: 7 09:54:10:889 b94 CUDA Driver Version/Runtime Version: 9.1/9.1 09:54:10:930 b94 GPU #0: GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, 3072 MB available, 9 compute units, capability: 6.1 (pci bus 1:0:0)
09:54:10:933 b94 GPU #1: GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, 3072 MB available, 9 compute units, capability: 6.1 (pci bus 2:0:0)
09:54:10:938 b94 GPU #2: GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, 3072 MB available, 9 compute units, capability: 6.1 (pci bus 3:0:0)
09:54:10:942 b94 GPU #3: GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, 3072 MB available, 9 compute units, capability: 6.1 (pci bus 5:0:0)
09:54:10:946 b94 GPU #4: GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, 3072 MB available, 9 compute units, capability: 6.1 (pci bus 6:0:0)
09:54:10:949 b94 GPU #5: GeForce GTX 1060 3GB, 3072 MB available, 9 compute units, capability: 6.1 (pci bus 7:0:0)
Windows log: - EventData
EthDcrMiner64.exe 0.0.0.0 5abe1013 ntdll.dll 6.1.7601.23915 59b94ee4 c0000005 000000000004b0a4 fb4 01d3c8bd0da3dc10 C:\Shara\Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred_Siacoin_Lbry_Pascal_Blake2s_Keccak AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v11.6\EthDcrMiner64.exe C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll 50392d50-34b0-11e8-9250-38d547aacba9
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March 31, 2018, 07:58:22 AM |
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hihi all I have updates it to v11.6 but it says eth stratum connected eth-eu nanopool.org:9999 (unsecure) Whats with the unsecure part? I have already read the readme file but i cant find the solution? can you help me the noob guys 
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March 31, 2018, 08:22:59 AM |
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Cпacибo зa тo, чтo пpиcлyшивaeтecь к пoльзoвaтeлям (tnx for your accept customer requests)!!!
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March 31, 2018, 08:34:37 AM |
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hihi all I have updates it to v11.6 but it says eth stratum connected eth-eu nanopool.org:9999 (unsecure) Whats with the unsecure part? I have already read the readme file but i cant find the solution? can you help me the noob guys  its a connection between your miner and the pool, if you want it more secured then use the SSL port otherwise its a default connection where I also use it
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March 31, 2018, 09:39:08 AM |
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hihi all I have updates it to v11.6 but it says eth stratum connected eth-eu nanopool.org:9999 (unsecure) Whats with the unsecure part? I have already read the readme file but i cant find the solution? can you help me the noob guys  its a connection between your miner and the pool, if you want it more secured then use the SSL port otherwise its a default connection where I also use it Is it safe to use it "unsecure"?
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Ambros
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March 31, 2018, 11:40:26 AM |
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Hi Guys! One of the mail killer fee of this miner is obviously the dual mining.
My farm is based on 1070 and 1050ti. I am currently dual mining XVG (blake2s). What are you guys doing?
Also, I will not disclose the name of the pool because it would be advertising, but I am getting on average 50% of what calculators say I should get. Any similar experience or any pool that is acting in a more fair way?
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March 31, 2018, 11:48:02 AM |
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hihi all I have updates it to v11.6 but it says eth stratum connected eth-eu nanopool.org:9999 (unsecure) Whats with the unsecure part? I have already read the readme file but i cant find the solution? can you help me the noob guys  its a connection between your miner and the pool, if you want it more secured then use the SSL port otherwise its a default connection where I also use it Is it safe to use it "unsecure"? yeah, what I could do is to set some security of my PC and close some ports one example is -mport options So far. no attempts made idk if its just a waste of time penetrating my rigs though 
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March 31, 2018, 12:03:54 PM |
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Hi Guys! One of the mail killer fee of this miner is obviously the dual mining.
My farm is based on 1070 and 1050ti. I am currently dual mining XVG (blake2s). What are you guys doing?
Also, I will not disclose the name of the pool because it would be advertising, but I am getting on average 50% of what calculators say I should get. Any similar experience or any pool that is acting in a more fair way?
You are using unimining or ant mine pool. Switch to nlpool
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