Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[demonmaestro]

110 plug


220 plug


There is a couple different plugs for 220v usually its 3 or 4 prong plugs

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[klee]

Rule No1 - You don't plan in Bitcoinland without taking in account the psychofat boy Karpeles!
He used the same trick twice - some idiots never learn their lesson.

He pumps LTC with a stupid tweet, he cashes out for USD while BTC crashes at his site and he saves his bitcoin reserves who probably went dangerously low from his withdrawal issue...

That's why I will never plan again long term with Bitcoin - ROI and bullshit, he f@cked as so many times!
Terrahash was a black hole - I hope the dump will end for people here so you will not get burned too, I seriously mean it guys...

[Biomech]

actually O'rama, we (Americans) have both 110 & 220 installed in most households. Just the 220 is usually used for large appliances, like ovens & driers, also come with a plug end(pigtail) the size of a small fist....lol

I never knew. That said though our (EU) voltage (especially Germany) is a lot more flexible, you can step a lot higher, but I doubt people will want to turn their houses into datacentres in the long run. If you do you could prob host other peoples kit, which would be a business in itself...

I could be mistaken, but I'm thinking 60hz could step higher than 50?
But of course we have 3 phase vs. ?  Not that this matters any....

My dad is an electrician, so I grew up around this stuff. 50 Hz doesn't make a lot of difference as far as stepping up or down, but it is safer to handle , as your heart also runs at about 60Hz. Still  a bad idea to make yourself part of the circuit

At any rate, there is just as much flexibility in the USA as in EU, just depends on how you want to install it. In a house or shop that you own, you can get pretty much any power configuration you desire if you have the resources to have it properly installed. In a rental you're pretty well stuck with 220/110. And, unfortunately, most residences have a 200 amp service, so you can't expand a hell of a lot without getting your panel and meter replaced (or a second setup installed).

What I"ve seen being a bigger issue is the incredible variance in generated power in the US. In most of the western states it's pretty clean, and tends to run 3-5 volts RMS above rated. In some of the midwest and the eastern states, I have put a meter on the wall and over a period of an hour seen a +/- variance of up to 30 percent. That will let the smoke out of your electronics. It is well worth the money to get a UPS and very good line spike protection when dealing with potentially sensitive electronics. Line power hasn't gotten any better, but electronics have gotten tougher over the last decade. ASIC mining manchines are likely NOT up to consumer grade standards. Don't let a utility company kill your investment.

[kingcoin]

Hopefully OrSoC have all their DRAM in stock for their SO-DIMM embedded Linux systems:

The Korean press reports that a huge explosion and fire in Hynix's fabrication plants 1 and 2 in China may put DRAM shipments on hold for the foreseeable future. Hynix is responsible for about 30% of the world's DRAM production.

More on: http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=1F7BAFAD-A8EA-72BF-E41ABEB0A9EB98B9

[Phoenix1969]

Power factor correction caps are a really good idea to smooth things out, and save up to 25% on your electric bill..
http://es.eaton.com/PowerFactorROI/index.html

[MrHempstock]

actually O'rama, we (Americans) have both 110 & 220 installed in most households. Just the 220 is usually used for large appliances, like ovens & driers, also come with a plug end(pigtail) the size of a small fist....lol

I never knew. That said though our (EU) voltage (especially Germany) is a lot more flexible, you can step a lot higher, but I doubt people will want to turn their houses into datacentres in the long run. If you do you could prob host other peoples kit, which would be a business in itself...

I could be mistaken, but I'm thinking 60hz could step higher than 50?
But of course we have 3 phase vs. ?  Not that this matters any....

My dad is an electrician, so I grew up around this stuff. 50 Hz doesn't make a lot of difference as far as stepping up or down, but it is safer to handle , as your heart also runs at about 60Hz. Still  a bad idea to make yourself part of the circuit

At any rate, there is just as much flexibility in the USA as in EU, just depends on how you want to install it. In a house or shop that you own, you can get pretty much any power configuration you desire if you have the resources to have it properly installed. In a rental you're pretty well stuck with 220/110. And, unfortunately, most residences have a 200 amp service, so you can't expand a hell of a lot without getting your panel and meter replaced (or a second setup installed).

What I"ve seen being a bigger issue is the incredible variance in generated power in the US. In most of the western states it's pretty clean, and tends to run 3-5 volts RMS above rated. In some of the midwest and the eastern states, I have put a meter on the wall and over a period of an hour seen a +/- variance of up to 30 percent. That will let the smoke out of your electronics. It is well worth the money to get a UPS and very good line spike protection when dealing with potentially sensitive electronics. Line power hasn't gotten any better, but electronics have gotten tougher over the last decade. ASIC mining manchines are likely NOT up to consumer grade standards. Don't let a utility company kill your investment.

This is along the lines of what I said awhile back - surge suppression and line filtration will be magnanimously better than insurance alone. But very well put!

[astutiumRob]

So it seems that HMRC do have a view on BTC apparently (http://www.coindesk.com/hmrc-uk-bitcoin-exchanges-dont-have-to-register-under-money-laundering-regulations/), who'd have thought it - very progressive . No word on VAT

The VAT situation is incredibly simple for good/services sold in BTC, it's just any other non-local currency.

[kingcoin]

Hopefully OrSoC have all their DRAM in stock for their SO-DIMM embedded Linux systems:

The Korean press reports that a huge explosion and fire in Hynix's fabrication plants 1 and 2 in China may put DRAM shipments on hold for the foreseeable future. Hynix is responsible for about 30% of the world's DRAM production.

More on: http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=1F7BAFAD-A8EA-72BF-E41ABEB0A9EB98B9

Nothing to worry about says Hynix: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/04/dont_panic_says_hynix_china_fab_explosion_is_no_big_deal/

[bobsag3]

We'll all be sending our miners to data centres in Russia at this rate - Russia 2.4 to 9.58 c/kw according to Wikipedia

I was able to find space mainland USA with 2c offpeak & 3.5 cent peak rates, which is where the miners are going...
Yes, it means I have to fly there initially.

Where were you able to find it so low? Please tell... Been looking myself and the lowest i've found is @ .08/kwh..

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. Keep looking, you should be able to find it.
I thought I was smart finding it, only to find other miners already there. That's the best I can do for now under NDA.

damn you! now I have to search the internet for hours before pm'ing you with the question with whom you have the nda!

Its really not that hard.. I have .089-.041 around by me for all my miners

[Ytterbium]

Rule No1 - You don't plan in Bitcoinland without taking in account the psychofat boy Karpeles!
He used the same trick twice - some idiots never learn their lesson.

He pumps LTC with a stupid tweet, he cashes out for USD while BTC crashes at his site and he saves his bitcoin reserves who probably went dangerously low from his withdrawal issue...

That's why I will never plan again long term with Bitcoin - ROI and bullshit, he f@cked as so many times!
Terrahash was a black hole - I hope the dump will end for people here so you will not get burned too, I seriously mean it guys...

MtGox is becoming less and less relevant.

as your heart also runs at about 60Hz.

You... might want to think about that for a couple seconds.

Or see a doctor.

[klee]

Rule No1 - You don't plan in Bitcoinland without taking in account the psychofat boy Karpeles!
He used the same trick twice - some idiots never learn their lesson.

He pumps LTC with a stupid tweet, he cashes out for USD while BTC crashes at his site and he saves his bitcoin reserves who probably went dangerously low from his withdrawal issue...

That's why I will never plan again long term with Bitcoin - ROI and bullshit, he f@cked as so many times!
Terrahash was a black hole - I hope the dump will end for people here so you will not get burned too, I seriously mean it guys...

MtGox is becoming less and less relevant.

Fortunately it seems so - but I am still cautious. The latest LTC manipulation was so canny...

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as your heart also runs at about 60Hz.

You... might want to think about that for a couple seconds.

Or see a doctor.

Hummingbird with a meth problem?

[klee]

Rule No1 - You don't plan in Bitcoinland without taking in account the psychofat boy Karpeles!
He used the same trick twice - some idiots never learn their lesson.

He pumps LTC with a stupid tweet, he cashes out for USD while BTC crashes at his site and he saves his bitcoin reserves who probably went dangerously low from his withdrawal issue...

That's why I will never plan again long term with Bitcoin - ROI and bullshit, he f@cked as so many times!
Terrahash was a black hole - I hope the dump will end for people here so you will not get burned too, I seriously mean it guys...

MtGox is becoming less and less relevant.

Fortunately it seems so - but I am still cautious. The latest LTC manipulation was so canny...

Here we go again...

[Mota]

We'll all be sending our miners to data centres in Russia at this rate - Russia 2.4 to 9.58 c/kw according to Wikipedia

I was able to find space mainland USA with 2c offpeak & 3.5 cent peak rates, which is where the miners are going...
Yes, it means I have to fly there initially.

Where were you able to find it so low? Please tell... Been looking myself and the lowest i've found is @ .08/kwh..

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. Keep looking, you should be able to find it.
I thought I was smart finding it, only to find other miners already there. That's the best I can do for now under NDA.

damn you! now I have to search the internet for hours before pm'ing you with the question with whom you have the nda!

Its really not that hard.. I have .089-.041 around by me for all my miners

and where exactly are your miners? plugged in at a power plant near you?!?

[Meizirkki]

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as your heart also runs at about 60Hz.

You... might want to think about that for a couple seconds.

Or see a doctor.

Hummingbird with a meth problem?

ROTFL 

[Mota]

...

as your heart also runs at about 60Hz.

You... might want to think about that for a couple seconds.

Or see a doctor.

Hummingbird with a meth problem?

ROTFL  

Fun fact: Hummingbirds can have a heartrate of 21 Beats per second. And they can live longer than 10 years. Thats over 6622 million beats.  
If you had a heart rate of 80 beats you would need more than 150 years to get to that

[bobsag3]

We'll all be sending our miners to data centres in Russia at this rate - Russia 2.4 to 9.58 c/kw according to Wikipedia

I was able to find space mainland USA with 2c offpeak & 3.5 cent peak rates, which is where the miners are going...
Yes, it means I have to fly there initially.

Where were you able to find it so low? Please tell... Been looking myself and the lowest i've found is @ .08/kwh..

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. Keep looking, you should be able to find it.
I thought I was smart finding it, only to find other miners already there. That's the best I can do for now under NDA.

damn you! now I have to search the internet for hours before pm'ing you with the question with whom you have the nda!

Its really not that hard.. I have .089-.041 around by me for all my miners

and where exactly are your miners? plugged in at a power plant near you?!?

No... my apartment/soon to be warehouse

[Micky25]

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after

then

[RHA]

Hopefully OrSoC have all their DRAM in stock for their SO-DIMM embedded Linux systems:

The Korean press reports that a huge explosion and fire in Hynix's fabrication plants 1 and 2 in China may put DRAM shipments on hold for the foreseeable future. Hynix is responsible for about 30% of the world's DRAM production.

More on: http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=1F7BAFAD-A8EA-72BF-E41ABEB0A9EB98B9

Why DRAM???

Hynix has been repurposing the fabs for NAND production instead of DRAM, and reports say the explosion occurred when new equipment was being installed.

[AussiePete]

We'll all be sending our miners to data centres in Russia at this rate - Russia 2.4 to 9.58 c/kw according to Wikipedia

I was able to find space mainland USA with 2c offpeak & 3.5 cent peak rates, which is where the miners are going...
Yes, it means I have to fly there initially.

Where were you able to find it so low? Please tell... Been looking myself and the lowest i've found is @ .08/kwh..

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. Keep looking, you should be able to find it.
I thought I was smart finding it, only to find other miners already there. That's the best I can do for now under NDA.

damn you! now I have to search the internet for hours before pm'ing you with the question with whom you have the nda!

Its really not that hard.. I have .089-.041 around by me for all my miners

and where exactly are your miners? plugged in at a power plant near you?!?

No... my apartment/soon to be warehouse

Dont take it it to personal if phoenix  wont give  100% of his info (though he has given 98% of it) .........he has some  business commitments he has to keep..................it took nearly 3 days of brainstorming ..........we started with a wood gacifier and found ourselves wandering around the good old USA .......remember every scenario has its for and against as well ......which normally costs extra monies , either rent , airfares and possible other costs ....

Just keep searching you will find the best scenario for you ............I think the key is working out the worst scenario ..............plus trying to predict when this  diff will settle down ..................I was keen on reinvesting ...........but I dont think it will happen for the next 3 to 6 months ..........this  diff is about to go mad .........and truthfully we are all guessing as in when and where this will slow down ........there going to be some big money earnt ........but also some big money lost

It all should settle down when most peoples expences are to high vrs their initial investment .............peoples expected returns are about to take a huge dip

I hope Im wrong ...............but