Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[xyzzy099]

orama,

thx for update!

i got one corsair 1050 hx running.

is that also a problem or just the 850???

Mate, cannot say. Not what i've been focusing on to be fair. Gut feeling it's part of the same brand/model family, so I would rather take a swerve. It's supplying to much current from what I understand. Something about a safety in the PSU being triggered and the cap smokes after the PSU is switched back on. They don't have every brand of ATX here to test. Anotherhost popped by with theirs is what I heard, it just so happened that on all those reported it was the same PSU at fault. It's an ongoing investigation, but if you want to play it safe, for sure the Corsair V850 has not shown any problems this end, and is used throughout the hosting currently.

This whole 'blame the power supply' story sounds pretty suspect to me.  The power supply can't 'force' current into a board...  There is clearly a board design problem here, and it looks to me to be highly unlikely that any specific known-to-be-fully-standards-compliant power supply would be more likely to cause it, other than simply being capable of providing higher instantaneous current - which is clearly not a flaw in a power supply.

I imagine this will turn out to be something that happens when you do something like turning the power on and off at exactly the wrong cadence, or something like that.  Somebody probably left a necessary diode out of the design.

[Paladin69]

Does it affect any Network Protection Statement? No. Any customers that purchased for October are being delivered in October. Any customers after, will get theirs in November, after a month’s gap. No special treatment.

Thanks for the update.  Not trying to come across as racist.  It's just that China reminds me of the Nation 0-1 in the Animatrix.  If there is still a planned limit, then cool.  It is hard to believe that a company would not keep producing for their own bottom line though.  I'll just have to trust you on that one.

And what happens if they do keep producing and effects yours? You don't buy again...

And you would be cool with being lied to?

[-Redacted-]

This whole 'blame the power supply' story sounds pretty suspect to me.  The power supply can't 'force' current into a board...  There is clearly a board design problem here, and it looks to me to be highly unlikely that any specific known-to-be-fully-standards-compliant power supply would be more likely to cause it, other than simply being capable of providing higher instantaneous current - which is clearly not a flaw in a power supply.

I imagine this will turn out to be something that happens when you do something like turning the power on and off at exactly the wrong cadence, or something like that.  Somebody probably left a necessary diode out of the design.

Correct, and capacitors can't be damaged by having current applied "before they've discharged their load", nor could a PSU force current through one.  Capacitors would be damaged by excessive voltage over their rated dielectric rating, and PSUs are designed to keep voltage constant through their rated current capacity.  

There's a great deal of bad/incorrect information being passed around here.

[RenHoek]

Have i just killed the Jupiter!?!

Just setup a new miner. Fired it up and recognized that one front-fan didnt work.

I didnt care cause without the case airflow should be OK. I started to change the setting via the webinterface and then the miner suddenly shut down.

I checked everything and found that the front-fan wasnt working cause a blade was STUCK!

So i "unstuck" it and fired the miner up again but NOTHING happens........... 

Whats going on???

UPDATE:

Fan is working normal again.

Situation is like this:

I start the miner and everything is OK, i can access the webinterface and edit things.

After pretty exactly 1 min the miner shuts down abruptly... 

this is PSU fault, i think!

[Puppet]

So then you are against what KnC is trying to do?  (Selling ASIC's in general?)

Of course not. But Im not going to buy them either. The only way I would consider investing in asics is through something like asicminer (shares), since their incentive is not opposed to their customers/investors.

[joeventura]

'Orama
Do you know why they won't ship the rest of our miners while they work out the firmware?

What? Have they stopped shipping?

[cognoscente]

@Orama
Do you know why they won't ship the rest of our miners while they work out the firmware?

2nd request.

[Bitcoinorama]

@Orama
Do you know why they won't ship the rest of our miners while they work out the firmware?

2nd request.

No, didn't think they had stopped, as per what I previously wrote; I'm no where near the manu facility anymore, i'm in Stockholm flipping a coin as to whether I sort out this accommodation mess, or head back to the UK and sort myself out there.

[DPoS]

There's a great deal of bad/incorrect information being passed around here.

and I used to work in electronics decades ago.. the mind forgets and fogs up easily 

[DPoS]

No, didn't think they had stopped, as per what I previously wrote; I'm no where near the manu facility anymore, i'm in Stockholm flipping a coin as to whether I sort out this accommodation mess, or head back to the UK and sort myself out there.

you can't find a place with some Swedish co-eds looking for a roomie??   try harder!

[Bitcoinorama]

No, didn't think they had stopped, as per what I previously wrote; I'm no where near the manu facility anymore, i'm in Stockholm flipping a coin as to whether I sort out this accommodation mess, or head back to the UK and sort myself out there.

you can't find a place with some Swedish co-eds looking for a roomie??   try harder!

Dude it's b/c of the Swedish coed's there are no rooms, everyone coming back to uni this past month and undersupply of student residence means Stockholm has even more of an accommodation issue than it's notoriously known for.

Trust me i'm eager to share a place with a cute Swedish girl with a diligent study habit for the sake of the community!

[Ajay]

Hi guys received my received Jupier today  is there a setup guide anywhere? or anyone willing to help me set it up as i'm having some issues.

[ImI]

Have i just killed the Jupiter!?!

Just setup a new miner. Fired it up and recognized that one front-fan didnt work.

I didnt care cause without the case airflow should be OK. I started to change the setting via the webinterface and then the miner suddenly shut down.

I checked everything and found that the front-fan wasnt working cause a blade was STUCK!

So i "unstuck" it and fired the miner up again but NOTHING happens...........  

Whats going on???

UPDATE:

Fan is working normal again.

Situation is like this:

I start the miner and everything is OK, i can access the webinterface and edit things.

After pretty exactly 1 min the miner shuts down abruptly...  

this is PSU fault, i think!

i will try another PSU later

at the moment the miner runs with 3 cards

it doesnt matter which card i deactivate as soon as only 3 cards are applied the miner works

edit: i am using a seasonic 1050 gold

[Paladin69]

So then you are against what KnC is trying to do?  (Selling ASIC's in general?)

since their incentive is not opposed to their customers/investors.

So you feel KnC's business model is opposed to their customers but are not against it.

I guess I'll stop...lol

[Biomech]

No, didn't think they had stopped, as per what I previously wrote; I'm no where near the manu facility anymore, i'm in Stockholm flipping a coin as to whether I sort out this accommodation mess, or head back to the UK and sort myself out there.

you can't find a place with some Swedish co-eds looking for a roomie??   try harder!

Dude it's b/c of the Swedish coed's there are no rooms, everyone coming back to uni this past month and undersupply of student residence means Stockholm has even more of an accommodation issue than it's notoriously known for.

Trust me i'm eager to share a place with a cute Swedish girl with a diligent study habit for the sake of the community!

I'll start this with a disclaimer. I know shit about Sweden.

But I do know University towns. I'd go to the university student union and check the bulletin boards. There are usually a bunch of places that never see the papers or craigslist or any of that, and they are often cheap.

In Reno and Boise, that was about the fastest way to find a place. When I moved to Boise in '90, there wasn't a place to be had on any of the "official" channels. I found a place in two hours through the above method.

Hope it helps.

[faetos]

ORama, I plan on sending you some coins as soon as I my gear is in hosting. I appreciate your updates. Right now I'm air hashing, of which we have plenty of that in the "hot" variety here in Texas.

[Bitcoinorama]

No, didn't think they had stopped, as per what I previously wrote; I'm no where near the manu facility anymore, i'm in Stockholm flipping a coin as to whether I sort out this accommodation mess, or head back to the UK and sort myself out there.

you can't find a place with some Swedish co-eds looking for a roomie??   try harder!

Dude it's b/c of the Swedish coed's there are no rooms, everyone coming back to uni this past month and undersupply of student residence means Stockholm has even more of an accommodation issue than it's notoriously known for.

Trust me i'm eager to share a place with a cute Swedish girl with a diligent study habit for the sake of the community!

I'll start this with a disclaimer. I know shit about Sweden.

But I do know University towns. I'd go to the university student union and check the bulletin boards. There are usually a bunch of places that never see the papers or craigslist or any of that, and they are often cheap.

In Reno and Boise, that was about the fastest way to find a place. When I moved to Boise in '90, there wasn't a place to be had on any of the "official" channels. I found a place in two hours through the above method.

Hope it helps.

Maybe, but on the otherhand I have clothing at home. Warm, waterproof clothing, and more than three days of it, including more than one pair of jeans, and shoes...

EDITE: Faetos, cheers bro, appreciated!

[xstr8guy]

orama,

thx for update!

i got one corsair 1050 hx running.

is that also a problem or just the 850???

Same question but substitute Corsair AX860.

[soy]

This whole 'blame the power supply' story sounds pretty suspect to me.  The power supply can't 'force' current into a board...  There is clearly a board design problem here, and it looks to me to be highly unlikely that any specific known-to-be-fully-standards-compliant power supply would be more likely to cause it, other than simply being capable of providing higher instantaneous current - which is clearly not a flaw in a power supply.

I imagine this will turn out to be something that happens when you do something like turning the power on and off at exactly the wrong cadence, or something like that.  Somebody probably left a necessary diode out of the design.

Correct, and capacitors can't be damaged by having current applied "before they've discharged their load", nor could a PSU force current through one.  Capacitors would be damaged by excessive voltage over their rated dielectric rating, and PSUs are designed to keep voltage constant through their rated current capacity.  

There's a great deal of bad/incorrect information being passed around here.

I'm guessing that voltage control suffers near zero current.

[cognoscente]

@Orama
Do you know why they won't ship the rest of our miners while they work out the firmware?

2nd request.

No, didn't think they had stopped, as per what I previously wrote; I'm no where near the manu facility anymore, i'm in Stockholm flipping a coin as to whether I sort out this accommodation mess, or head back to the UK and sort myself out there.

Went back and re-read lots of your posts and still didn't see it, but thanks for the answer(s).   No way I'd get on a plane without first checking out Biomech's suggestion.  Getting on a plane to get clothes?  Really?  Take care.