Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[AussieHash]

I think, November miner deliveries has already been shipped and they reach customers today.

Customers can start hashing from tomorrow, 00:00.  

ack hope this is not true and they don't ship till nov 15th as they said..if not what are we looking at every 10 days a 50% difficulty increase? hard to ROI back that way!

They told me they planned to have
A month in between shipping, and I believe they will hold up to that, other wise they would piss off allot of customers, and anyone smart that paid with a credit card could get a refund if they wanted, and would lose allot of customers if they plan on having a gen 2, though a gen 2 would only be worth while if they got much better watt  / gig performance

I have heard from a forum member that his $5000 "November" order shipped on 30/10

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[waterboi92]

hi guys, so earlier i changed my networking settings on my miner so that i would have a static ip for the miner.
when i try to SSH through putty and follow the usual steps: 1. log in as root 2. enter password and 3. screen -r
but now after i enter screen -r this comes up:

"theres a screen on:
1771.cgminer (attached)
there is no screen to be resumed."

how do i get my cgminer to display again?

thanks!

[Crypto_Cumbrian]

Jupiter

Rolled mine back to 0.95 from 0.98.  Noticed a Drop in hash rate after 36 Hours (from 550 to 520) at the pool. Also I get the occasional core disabled and re-enabled in 0.98, don't get them in 0.95.

Also get 80+ Watts back at the wall, temps down 5 Degrees.

HW rate down from 1.5% to 0.5%.

So 0.95 seems to be the Sweetest FW for my Jupiter.

[madsusies]

I think you need restart the miner - it stops mining

[FoxMURDER]

hi guys, so earlier i changed my networking settings on my miner so that i would have a static ip for the miner.
when i try to SSH through putty and follow the usual steps: 1. log in as root 2. enter password and 3. screen -r
but now after i enter screen -r this comes up:

"theres a screen on:
1771.cgminer (attached)
there is no screen to be resumed."

how do i get my cgminer to display again?

thanks!

use screen -d (detaches other attached screens) and then screen -r

or

use screen -x (attaches to already attached screen)

[waterboi92]

I think you need restart the miner - it stops mining

yup, that fixed it, thanks a bunch!

[jmevz]

My Mercury is sitting at 106Gh/s and roughly the same on the server. I'm on .89, can't seem to get it to stay any higher. I'd like 110, 120 at least. I've seen it go to 126, that would be nice constantly, but it's not doing it hmmm...

[demonmaestro]

My Mercury is sitting at 106Gh/s and roughly the same on the server. I'm on .89, can't seem to get it to stay any higher. I'd like 110, 120 at least. I've seen it go to 126, that would be nice constantly, but it's not doing it hmmm...

about what mine is doing.

[jmevz]

My Mercury is sitting at 106Gh/s and roughly the same on the server. I'm on .89, can't seem to get it to stay any higher. I'd like 110, 120 at least. I've seen it go to 126, that would be nice constantly, but it's not doing it hmmm...

about what mine is doing.

Hmm, I need to log in and check cgminer errors. Not at all familiar with that stuff...

[timmmers]

They told me they planned to have
A month in between shipping, and I believe they will hold up to that, other wise they would piss off allot of customers, and anyone smart that paid with a credit card could get a refund if they wanted, and would lose allot of customers if they plan on having a gen 2, though a gen 2 would only be worth while if they got much better watt  / gig performance

Yeah, their shipping times have always been as they say, and they hate to piss customers off...or even talk to us come to that.

I'd bet that Nov orders are quite small given the difficulty we all knew was going to be this bad, and if power usage being lower than current rigs is such a big thing. Gen 2 will have to have a much better dollar / gig performance, who cares about power consumption of a few quid when you're talking about rigs that should be making hundreds a week? Power use should be about those last few months just above break even not massive thing. People see a 2 week delay as OK despite that meaning missing so much income, then witter on about the cost of a couple of light bulbs in power consumption? WTF?

[Mota]

They told me they planned to have
A month in between shipping, and I believe they will hold up to that, other wise they would piss off allot of customers, and anyone smart that paid with a credit card could get a refund if they wanted, and would lose allot of customers if they plan on having a gen 2, though a gen 2 would only be worth while if they got much better watt  / gig performance

Yeah, their shipping times have always been as they say, and they hate to piss customers off...or even talk to us come to that.

I'd bet that Nov orders are quite small given the difficulty we all knew was going to be this bad, and if power usage being lower than current rigs is such a big thing. Gen 2 will have to have a much better dollar / gig performance, who cares about power consumption of a few quid when you're talking about rigs that should be making hundreds a week? Power use should be about those last few months just above break even not massive thing. People see a 2 week delay as OK despite that meaning missing so much income, then witter on about the cost of a couple of light bulbs in power consumption? WTF?

I beg to differ. 1 Jupiter costs about 135€ in power per month. That is at present pretty much 1 btc. If next gen miners can lessen that by 30% that would mean a LOT more money in the long run. Of course, if you are in a country where you don't have to pay more than 13 cents per kwh you obviously don't have to fret over power consumption...

[madsusies]

Lol no way the 2nd will have min 1Thas or in jupiter case 5Thas=1350€ Bills or they just cut the jupiter price to 1000$ when the diff rise to 1000mil in January 

[btcusr]

Say for equal GHashes,

  Gen1 price is 200 BTC
  Gen2 price is 100 BTC

Basically KNC, and every asic manufacturer should,

1. Ship all gen1 asics
2. Make sure all gen1 asics shipped, started hashing, and last-shipped gen1 asic mined the price difference worth of BTC (200 - 100 = 100 BTC)
3. Start shiping gen2 asics

Right?? Or, whatever.

[capa]

Hi,

As many of you are already aware, there have been a lot of issues with firmware for the KnC series miners, attempts to replace this code with familiar tried and tested systems fails because
the system right now works in flash, which is why you loose it on reboot.

So my plan is to source a beaglebone and develop a microsd image with a more common OS like Debian or Ubuntu with BFGminer on that i can release to everyone thus surviving reboots.
If you like the idea donate here:   1Nm8mRuuCYQqDwY8HhNGPsAQ1KKE3ykQ7o

This will be a plug a play type setup with minimal config required.

I.e copy the image.iso to a microsd  plug the microsd into your miner and reboot..

Smile

I've started a thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321930.0
And here http://forum.kncminer.com/blogs/the-big-countdown/13322-custom-os-image-for-knc-miners
and here http://abitcoin.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=780

[madsusies]

100BTc=20k$   let my see, diff will be 1000mil min 2Thas not enough 20Thas to have a ROI unit with a lot consumption,  literally there will be not roi units, but folks somehow don't care

[bronan]

Your right madsusie no miner is going to make roi unless a person is not paying for his electra bills then that person can make profit,
unless the value of btc becomes at a massive value to make up the difficulty.

Which i believe will not happen anytime soon.

However since i do have to pay 0.32 Kw/h on electra and pay massive taxes over anything i buy in my country.

Its not longer possible to make mining worth the effort. Colocating gives other problems in general makes things worse.
The problem with hosting is the hands when it goes wrong, and you need a person which has knowledge on these machines.

Second the prices which the asic companies ask for their $8 value chips is insane.
Do not come with bs about they cost more because they don't,  their cheap and since the foundries have a new market they probably dropped even lower in price.

Asics are made in massive numbers each day since they are used in many products todo their respected tasks.
They are simple chips compared to cpu/gpu and not programmable like fpga so after this task you can not use asics at any other task which they are made for. They are instant useless so selling you expenssive bitcoin miner becomes a pain when its no longer able to make some coins for you.

[timmmers]

They told me they planned to have
A month in between shipping, and I believe they will hold up to that, other wise they would piss off allot of customers, and anyone smart that paid with a credit card could get a refund if they wanted, and would lose allot of customers if they plan on having a gen 2, though a gen 2 would only be worth while if they got much better watt  / gig performance

Yeah, their shipping times have always been as they say, and they hate to piss customers off...or even talk to us come to that.

I'd bet that Nov orders are quite small given the difficulty we all knew was going to be this bad, and if power usage being lower than current rigs is such a big thing. Gen 2 will have to have a much better dollar / gig performance, who cares about power consumption of a few quid when you're talking about rigs that should be making hundreds a week? Power use should be about those last few months just above break even not massive thing. People see a 2 week delay as OK despite that meaning missing so much income, then witter on about the cost of a couple of light bulbs in power consumption? WTF?

I beg to differ. 1 Jupiter costs about 135€ in power per month. That is at present pretty much 1 btc. If next gen miners can lessen that by 30% that would mean a LOT more money in the long run. Of course, if you are in a country where you don't have to pay more than 13 cents per kwh you obviously don't have to fret over power consumption...

A jupiter would cover that 135 in 2 days sitting instead of waiting to be shipped at KNC. A next gen rig would need to be at least the same value as a jupiter right now to be even considered. Power is the last thing that needs to be improved, and any improvements will be pitiful anyway. IF the people who only just got their jupiters had been offered the choice of one on the 15th as promised but 1kw ...or what they got...14 days of no mining and a diff increase...which would they take? 2 weeks mining at 500GH or save 70 euros? Which is more important?

1BTC is a lot more than 135 Euro right now too.

[Mota]

They told me they planned to have
A month in between shipping, and I believe they will hold up to that, other wise they would piss off allot of customers, and anyone smart that paid with a credit card could get a refund if they wanted, and would lose allot of customers if they plan on having a gen 2, though a gen 2 would only be worth while if they got much better watt  / gig performance

Yeah, their shipping times have always been as they say, and they hate to piss customers off...or even talk to us come to that.

I'd bet that Nov orders are quite small given the difficulty we all knew was going to be this bad, and if power usage being lower than current rigs is such a big thing. Gen 2 will have to have a much better dollar / gig performance, who cares about power consumption of a few quid when you're talking about rigs that should be making hundreds a week? Power use should be about those last few months just above break even not massive thing. People see a 2 week delay as OK despite that meaning missing so much income, then witter on about the cost of a couple of light bulbs in power consumption? WTF?

I beg to differ. 1 Jupiter costs about 135€ in power per month. That is at present pretty much 1 btc. If next gen miners can lessen that by 30% that would mean a LOT more money in the long run. Of course, if you are in a country where you don't have to pay more than 13 cents per kwh you obviously don't have to fret over power consumption...

A jupiter would cover that 135 in 2 days sitting instead of waiting to be shipped at KNC. A next gen rig would need to be at least the same value as a jupiter right now to be even considered. Power is the last thing that needs to be improved, and any improvements will be pitiful anyway. IF the people who only just got their jupiters had been offered the choice of one on the 15th as promised but 1kw ...or what they got...14 days of no mining and a diff increase...which would they take? 2 weeks mining at 500GH or save 70 euros? Which is more important?

1BTC is a lot more than 135 Euro right now too.

Hey, don't preach to the choir. My UPS delivery from KNC directly is missing... so, 2 weeks late vs now 4 weeks with me.... I am lucky that my first units got here on the 16th late afternoon, also UPS, delivered to my neighbours babysitter (while I was at home...). But  that was not the unit from KNC directly but from a forumbuy. So yeah, delay sucks, but when you get your units what is more important is power consumption.

[FiatKiller]

Ok, been running over a day now no problem: (reading 294 at the pool too!)

[sickpig]

Here are my findings: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...nc&usp=sharing

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