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November 08, 2013, 08:01:48 AM
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It seems like with current BTC value the new Jupiter may break even
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November 08, 2013, 08:08:51 AM
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It seems like with current BTC value the new Jupiter may break even
... that's not break even, only if you work in USD to USD. This is btctalk though.

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November 08, 2013, 08:10:43 AM
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It seems like with current BTC value the new Jupiter may break even

You will get far more BTC taking advantage of the price correction that might be coming soon.  These price surges are cyclical.

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November 08, 2013, 08:13:03 AM
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Has anyone encountered the following problem:

Jupiter hashing away happily on 0.98 getting a very stable 560GH/s at the pool with case on and all fans on (i.e. as it was designed - temps stable between 60-70)

Then suddenly, after 6 days i found it had stopped hashing (luckily i caught it after two hours only).

I rebooted via the web portal

No other changes at all.

Now hashing at ~515GH/s after 24 hours, everything else exactly unchanged.

Very strange. Any ideas guys? how can i get back to where i was in terms of hashrate?

Tip on offer for a fix Smiley

EDIT: I forgot to add that after 24 hours I did a full power cycle i.e. switched off at the PSU for 5 mins then switched back on, then in the web portal i rebooted it just for good measure. Still at 515GH/s at the pool after another 10 hours....
Just run enablecores, and reboot
I suggest using 0.98.1, or 09.98.1 beta


A quick update Phoenix, in case you're wondering. I flashed to 0.98.1 and no improvement.

BUT

I applied bertmod and it looks like I found the issue:

7   ON   OK   11.7 V   0.765 V   0.438 A


That's one of the cores on one of the chips - looks like the DC/DC is kaput Sad
That would explain the random shutdown of the miner, and the decreased performance since then. I havent had a chance to look inside the box and see if there is anything wrong - il have a look later tonight.

Any ideas what might have caused it? That board was running a little hotter than the others (yes, i checked for plastic under the heatsink - there was none, i also tightened the screws down on the bridge to make sure it was making good contact - i did all that when it first arrived). This board was running at 68 to 70 degrees, the front two were at 60 and the other back board at 67

I dont suppose anyone has a fix?

515GH/s is more than the 400GH/s i paid for, and i think it is also not bad enough to consider the downtime of an RMA (i am in Asia so it would take around 5-8 days given a same day fix by KNC)

Looks like il jut have to suck it up and be thankful for what i have.

Shame ROI looks impossible for me (i received it on 24th Oct and have only mined 7 BTC to date)




This is a common issue with the 0.98.1 firmware on some boards. It fixes the first Die DC/DC output, but kills the 3rd and/or 4th one. The only fix I've found is to heat that board up to around 70-75C which somehow gets it to start functioning. It will be less efficient (my bad miner with 3 boards like this is running at over 1.1W/Gh), but will hash a bit faster with it on. It's real tricky to get the temps right. Too high and the board shuts off from overtemp, too low and it shuts off from bad firmware coding.
If that is the only one you have with the DC/DC output below 1 than I'd say just be happy with it and hope a better firmware comes out that fixes it and soon.
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November 08, 2013, 08:16:42 AM
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It seems like with current BTC value the new Jupiter may break even

You will get far more BTC taking advantage of the price correction that might be coming soon.  These price surges are cyclical.



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November 08, 2013, 08:18:12 AM
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The thing is, we have no way to profit from a downward turn

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November 08, 2013, 08:22:23 AM
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... that's not break even, only if you work in USD to USD. This is btctalk though.

Yes, I meant break even (or at least almost break even) in btc, assuming about 100% monthly difficulty increase and no btc/usd change. Since if you pay in btc it's by today's rate if I am not mistaken and the price is still the same, ~$5000

edit: do you guys think i should remove my posts so not to increase orders?
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November 08, 2013, 08:58:03 AM
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... that's not break even, only if you work in USD to USD. This is btctalk though.

Yes, I meant break even (or at least almost break even) in btc, assuming about 100% monthly difficulty increase and no btc/usd change. Since if you pay in btc it's by today's rate if I am not mistaken and the price is still the same, ~$5000

edit: do you guys think i should remove my posts so not to increase orders?

Nah

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November 08, 2013, 09:01:47 AM
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anyone else notice this?

on my knc page and putty it says my miner is running at 508gh/s but on the pool stats page (btcguild) it shows 588gh/s for the past few hrs...

bug?

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November 08, 2013, 09:02:51 AM
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ok when all is bull shit here then i ask my question again:

I need dumps of that:

i2cdump -y 1 0x24 b

and

i2cdump -y 1 0x24 w

Information about, power, voltage, dcdc state i'am near the solution to double the hash rate
inside the miner, hmmm not doubling but 200 Gh/s per Asic_Board.

thx


yeah so much bs here

root@Jupiter-3B3:~# i2cdump -y 1 0x24 b
     0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  a  b  c  d  e  f
00: 72 3d 02 01 b1 80 b2 01 00 05 08 00 7f 0c 21 38
10: 0c 06 0a 0c 1f 26 7f 00 03 02 3f 20 00 80 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
40: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
50: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
60: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
80: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
90: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
a0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
b0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
c0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
d0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
e0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
f0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

root@Jupiter-3B3:~# i2cdump -y 1 0x24 w
     0,8  1,9  2,a  3,b  4,c  5,d  6,e  7,f
00: 3d72 003d 0100 b101 80b1 b280 01b2 0001
08: 0500 0805 0008 7f00 0c7f 210c 3821 0c38
10: 060c 0a06 0c0a 1f0c 261f 7f26 007f 0300
18: 0203 3f02 203f 0020 8000 0080 0000 0000
20: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
28: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
30: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
38: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
40: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
48: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
50: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
58: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
60: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
68: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
70: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
78: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
80: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
88: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
90: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
98: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
a0: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
a8: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
b0: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
b8: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
c0: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
c8: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
d0: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
d8: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
e0: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
e8: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
f0: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
f8: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 7200
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November 08, 2013, 09:04:07 AM
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anyone else notice this?

on my knc page and putty it says my miner is running at 508gh/s but on the pool stats page (btcguild) it shows 588gh/s for the past few hrs...

bug?

The pool stats are what matters.  Enjoy it.
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November 08, 2013, 09:15:00 AM
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For the trolls: I'm a happy customer.  Grin

I had to play a lot (it was fun) but I have 570Ghs and my investment back.
Right on!

One could get the impression there was a statement like 'no happy customers at all'.

I'm happy for you that it worked out so nice, that you do not need to pay this f'ing -/+20% Tax like us Europeans, early delivery date, smoothly working devices and therefore reached break-even. Honestly this is great. I know there's always one in the world doing better than me, so I'm totally fine with it.
If nobody would have reached break-even, situation for me would be worse for sure...so really nice!

However I'm confused that you do not care even a little about others suffering (not me).
Didn't you consider further business with KnC ? How about next time it might be you punished by bad luck with delayed/messed up delivery, broken miner, delayed RMA, nobody picks up the phone, several days of exhausting email ping-pong while diff increases and other stuff reported...

And this is exactly my point.
Nice it worked out! But what's next time ?

+1+1+1+1
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November 08, 2013, 09:38:10 AM
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For the trolls: I'm a happy customer.  Grin

I had to play a lot (it was fun) but I have 570Ghs and my investment back.
Right on!

One could get the impression there was a statement like 'no happy customers at all'.

I'm happy for you that it worked out so nice, that you do not need to pay this f'ing -/+20% Tax like us Europeans, early delivery date, smoothly working devices and therefore reached break-even. Honestly this is great. I know there's always one in the world doing better than me, so I'm totally fine with it.
If nobody would have reached break-even, situation for me would be worse for sure...so really nice!

However I'm confused that you do not care even a little about others suffering (not me).
Didn't you consider further business with KnC ? How about next time it might be you punished by bad luck with delayed/messed up delivery, broken miner, delayed RMA, nobody picks up the phone, several days of exhausting email ping-pong while diff increases and other stuff reported...

And this is exactly my point.
Nice it worked out! But what's next time ?

+1+1+1+1
I'm sorry there are a few people that didn't fair so well, but can't a single praise go by without getting shot down? There are like a dozen, out of 8000. You should be calling KNC, You will surely get farther there...as a matter of fact, they are open right now.....


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November 08, 2013, 10:20:48 AM
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For the trolls: I'm a happy customer.  Grin

I had to play a lot (it was fun) but I have 570Ghs and my investment back.
Right on!

One could get the impression there was a statement like 'no happy customers at all'.

I'm happy for you that it worked out so nice, that you do not need to pay this f'ing -/+20% Tax like us Europeans, early delivery date, smoothly working devices and therefore reached break-even. Honestly this is great. I know there's always one in the world doing better than me, so I'm totally fine with it.
If nobody would have reached break-even, situation for me would be worse for sure...so really nice!

However I'm confused that you do not care even a little about others suffering (not me).
Didn't you consider further business with KnC ? How about next time it might be you punished by bad luck with delayed/messed up delivery, broken miner, delayed RMA, nobody picks up the phone, several days of exhausting email ping-pong while diff increases and other stuff reported...

And this is exactly my point.
Nice it worked out! But what's next time ?

+1+1+1+1
I'm sorry there are a few people that didn't fair so well, but can't a single praise go by without getting shot down? There are like a dozen, out of 8000. You should be calling KNC, You will surely get farther there...as a matter of fact, they are open right now.....

8000? Never. They sold multiple units/orders to a bunch of people, but nowhere near 8000. There were a lot of groupbuys, cloudcompanies and big fish miners who ordered the brunt off it. You were indeed lucky, last time I had to call 4 days in a row to get someone on the phone.
I am truly happy for everyone who got his units early, but you have to understand the fact that every time someone posts how happy he is with his timely delivery and his ROI it's like getting kicked in the nuts repeatedly by a soccerplayer on steroids.
And if you take into account that there are 10 users here who are unhappy with knc and around 30 who defend knc and are happy with it you can, with let's say 20% variance, say that around 20-30% of their customers are indeed not happy at all with problems/customer support issues/late deliveries/*insert whatever you want here*. The thing is, most of those do not post here because they are tied in groupbuys and/or cloudmining and complain to their respective companies if at all.

I respect your opinion and I understand that you are happy and want to share that, but fact is calling KNC does do shit for problem solving, they block every attempt to solve the compensation problem, RMA's are given out days after problems are reported and only after people get to hear "try this new firmware first", emails are answered with mostly standardized messages and one gets the feeling they are not even read thoroughly and you have to call numerous times to get someone on the phone.

In my opinion voicing concerns and opinions regarding KNC in this forum has a better chance of getting through to them than personal communication. This forum is public, we know they read some of the stuff here and if they do not want to loose future sales (does not matter how many) they should be motivated to resolve those issues so that there can be peace and quiet here. You can be assured that I will revert to my former pro/neutral-KNC attitude the moment they adress those issues in public and to the satisfaction of their customers.

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November 08, 2013, 10:41:46 AM
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For the trolls: I'm a happy customer.  Grin

I had to play a lot (it was fun) but I have 570Ghs and my investment back.
Right on!

One could get the impression there was a statement like 'no happy customers at all'.

I'm happy for you that it worked out so nice, that you do not need to pay this f'ing -/+20% Tax like us Europeans, early delivery date, smoothly working devices and therefore reached break-even. Honestly this is great. I know there's always one in the world doing better than me, so I'm totally fine with it.
If nobody would have reached break-even, situation for me would be worse for sure...so really nice!

However I'm confused that you do not care even a little about others suffering (not me).
Didn't you consider further business with KnC ? How about next time it might be you punished by bad luck with delayed/messed up delivery, broken miner, delayed RMA, nobody picks up the phone, several days of exhausting email ping-pong while diff increases and other stuff reported...

And this is exactly my point.
Nice it worked out! But what's next time ?

+1+1+1+1
I'm sorry there are a few people that didn't fair so well, but can't a single praise go by without getting shot down? There are like a dozen, out of 8000. You should be calling KNC, You will surely get farther there...as a matter of fact, they are open right now.....

8000? Never. They sold multiple units/orders to a bunch of people, but nowhere near 8000. There were a lot of groupbuys, cloudcompanies and big fish miners who ordered the brunt off it. You were indeed lucky, last time I had to call 4 days in a row to get someone on the phone.
I am truly happy for everyone who got his units early, but you have to understand the fact that every time someone posts how happy he is with his timely delivery and his ROI it's like getting kicked in the nuts repeatedly by a soccerplayer on steroids.
And if you take into account that there are 10 users here who are unhappy with knc and around 30 who defend knc and are happy with it you can, with let's say 20% variance, say that around 20-30% of their customers are indeed not happy at all with problems/customer support issues/late deliveries/*insert whatever you want here*. The thing is, most of those do not post here because they are tied in groupbuys and/or cloudmining and complain to their respective companies if at all.

I respect your opinion and I understand that you are happy and want to share that, but fact is calling KNC does do shit for problem solving, they block every attempt to solve the compensation problem, RMA's are given out days after problems are reported and only after people get to hear "try this new firmware first", emails are answered with mostly standardized messages and one gets the feeling they are not even read thoroughly and you have to call numerous times to get someone on the phone.

In my opinion voicing concerns and opinions regarding KNC in this forum has a better chance of getting through to them than personal communication. This forum is public, we know they read some of the stuff here and if they do not want to loose future sales (does not matter how many) they should be motivated to resolve those issues so that there can be peace and quiet here. You can be assured that I will revert to my former pro/neutral-KNC attitude the moment they adress those issues in public and to the satisfaction of their customers.

They sold about 2000 units, when you received a box from DHL the con note had your order number on it and next to that was your actual order number. I'm surprised no one else picked up on it.
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November 08, 2013, 10:48:56 AM
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Maybe I should ask for some compensation too  Roll Eyes
I would have loved to have my miner a few days earlier also.
In reality, I think they did a great job in general so I will not bitch about it. I can just imagine the stress they had to go through after receiving the chips. Marcus' hair is now grey, probably. Granted, my unit didn't have much problems, and I feel sorry for those who had.
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November 08, 2013, 11:02:38 AM
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The good news is that november Jupiter and Saturn's are no longer available.

According to the website.
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November 08, 2013, 11:11:08 AM
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The good news is that november Jupiter and Saturn's are no longer available.

According to the website.

Wooo now they might release their next pricing Smiley
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November 08, 2013, 11:25:50 AM
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The good news is that november Jupiter and Saturn's are no longer available.

According to the website.

Wooo now they might release their next pricing Smiley

maybe cheap extra modules??  if they dont sell more controllers (which we would love too) then they would just be selling back to their current customers..


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November 08, 2013, 11:52:07 AM
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The good news is that november Jupiter and Saturn's are no longer available.

According to the website.

well BFL has hit a "lag" point so to speak...(I keep track on the stuff I'll never get)....mini-rigs are caught up ..they sold no mini-rigs from like april 4th till June or some such..

but then again the big bitcoin rush started in april...so perhaps it is a wash..would be nice if difficulty slowed down to less the 30 percent for a bit..but doubtful

but just wait till my 'forced update" monarchs arrive..I tell you they will really be the cats' meow when the start mining them "ASICcoin" them coins are going places right? *snort*)..(wanders off mumbling no hope no hope)

ending on a positive note it sorta/kinda looks likely I'll at least get ROI (in my mind anyway) on the Jupiter I got on oct 18th


so it goes live and learn but hopefully we will have 'some' kinda lag in diff rise ..if at least on 1 round of such (knock wood)

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