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November 06, 2013, 05:24:55 AM
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Well after 5 days of nonstop stable mining my Jupiter just stopped hashing. The web interface said CGMiner was down and when SSHing in there was no screen session running. Restarting the miner via the web interface did nothing but a reboot has it back in action. Only 10 minutes of downtime but guess I still need to keep my eyes peeled for offline email warnings. Hopefully they'll eventually get it as stable as my Avalons which I have to say are 100% stable even when overclocked. Going to look at the logs when I have time tomorrow...
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November 06, 2013, 05:42:04 AM
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Set> Hmm it never even occurred to me that some pools do let you specify the difficulty of shares you want.

I always just ifgured the pools are adjusting it based on how fast you get solutions to them, so as to slow you down or speed you up as they think best?

I was mining mmpool, not sure if it even has a way I can tell it a specific difficulty I'd like.

-MarkM-

EDIT: Okay apparently it is cgminer that I tell my desired difficulty to, I thought it used to be some add-on code you put in the pool URL or something but apparently it is a commandline argument to cgminer. What kind of diffuclty would be better? I am have been seeing pretty good hashing speeds. Also that killed remark seems to hint it is the O/S or the web scripts or something external to cgminer that is killing me not some error inside cgminer...

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Difficulty is set at the pool, not by the miner. Go to your pool's interface to change it or use a pool with a vardiff implementation. cgminer got killed likely because your device ran out of memory. There is also a --lowmem option which helps somewhat with this, but the beaglebone does have other things running consuming memory and cgminer might get targeted regardless.

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November 06, 2013, 06:01:36 AM
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Set> Hmm it never even occurred to me that some pools do let you specify the difficulty of shares you want.

I always just ifgured the pools are adjusting it based on how fast you get solutions to them, so as to slow you down or speed you up as they think best?

I was mining mmpool, not sure if it even has a way I can tell it a specific difficulty I'd like.

-MarkM-

EDIT: Okay apparently it is cgminer that I tell my desired difficulty to, I thought it used to be some add-on code you put in the pool URL or something but apparently it is a commandline argument to cgminer. What kind of diffuclty would be better? I am have been seeing pretty good hashing speeds. Also that killed remark seems to hint it is the O/S or the web scripts or something external to cgminer that is killing me not some error inside cgminer...

-MarkM-

Difficulty is set at the pool, not by the miner. Go to your pool's interface to change it or use a pool with a vardiff implementation. cgminer got killed likely because your device ran out of memory. There is also a --lowmem option which helps somewhat with this, but the beaglebone does have other things running consuming memory and cgminer might get targeted regardless.


Could running BurtMod be contributing to the memory issue, or does BurtMod only consume a tiny portion?

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November 06, 2013, 06:14:59 AM
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Set> Hmm it never even occurred to me that some pools do let you specify the difficulty of shares you want.

I always just ifgured the pools are adjusting it based on how fast you get solutions to them, so as to slow you down or speed you up as they think best?

I was mining mmpool, not sure if it even has a way I can tell it a specific difficulty I'd like.

-MarkM-

EDIT: Okay apparently it is cgminer that I tell my desired difficulty to, I thought it used to be some add-on code you put in the pool URL or something but apparently it is a commandline argument to cgminer. What kind of diffuclty would be better? I am have been seeing pretty good hashing speeds. Also that killed remark seems to hint it is the O/S or the web scripts or something external to cgminer that is killing me not some error inside cgminer...

-MarkM-

Difficulty is set at the pool, not by the miner. Go to your pool's interface to change it or use a pool with a vardiff implementation. cgminer got killed likely because your device ran out of memory. There is also a --lowmem option which helps somewhat with this, but the beaglebone does have other things running consuming memory and cgminer might get targeted regardless.


Could running BurtMod be contributing to the memory issue, or does BurtMod only consume a tiny portion?
That would be a "yes"...
Unix/Linux is also known to parallel process rather slow, when having to switch between programs, or draw on several apps at once...  I wouldn't actually blame it all on the memory without knowing more, but certainly a major factor if your diff is too low imho


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November 06, 2013, 06:22:37 AM
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https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-63


"Unbeknown to the community we are currently developing the next generation product in 20nm/16nm process with Alchip "

They have time to post such news, but don't have the time to participate in their own forums and help people out on their devilish products? They aren't thinking people are going to buy from them again, do they? Is making an announcement like that just a start of mind controlling techniques in the marketing world? Also, if you tried to visit that link www.ast.com that is IN their news publication it doesn't even work.


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November 06, 2013, 06:31:27 AM
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have you tried the new 0.9.8.1 FW?
i think it is total crap, from 100GH i went to 60 Sad
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November 06, 2013, 07:13:10 AM
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When ckolivas provided a link to a version of cgminer that supposedly might fix the problem of your miner just stopping, I ssh'd in and wgot it and ran it and all seemed well for a while.

But just now it stopped. The lasting thing my ssh session saw was:

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[2013-11-06 02:16:30] Accepted 083a245b Diff 31/16 KnC 0Killed
                                                               @Saturn-AEB:/home/root#

It seems to be saying that something actually killed it rather than that is ran into some kind of fatal error?

If so, what would have killed it, and why?

/var/log doesn't look too helpful in figuring out what happened...

-MarkM-


Linux oom killer? Maybe this cgminer version is leaking memory somewhere. Try to execute the dmesg command and report here the output.

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Unix/Linux is also known to parallel process rather slow...

wow Phoenix1969. this is bold.
citation needed at least Tongue 


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Unix/Linux is also known to parallel process rather slow...

wow Phoenix1969. this is bold.
citation needed at least Tongue  


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November 06, 2013, 08:05:12 AM
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Two firmware updates for me so far. Didn't do that, bot even half of it. Not had a problem

1. DL the update
2. On the KNC miner interface click update and select that download and apply it.
3. Click restart cg miner in the KNC interface.

Nothng else at all. Checked it after in Putty, but all was fine. lol

So after you upload and apply the firmware, it returns to a screen that says restart miner, is that the link you clicked or did you go back to the home screen, then go the the "Mining" and click on "Restart CGMiner" on that page?

Tbe last one, Mining screen >> Restart CGMiner. Smiley
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Two firmware updates for me so far. Didn't do that, bot even half of it. Not had a problem

1. DL the update
2. On the KNC miner interface click update and select that download and apply it.
3. Click restart cg miner in the KNC interface.

Nothng else at all. Checked it after in Putty, but all was fine. lol

So after you upload and apply the firmware, it returns to a screen that says restart miner, is that the link you clicked or did you go back to the home screen, then go the the "Mining" and click on "Restart CGMiner" on that page?

Tbe last one, Mining screen >> Restart CGMiner. Smiley
no wonder

after you "apply" a message will appear with reboot in blu...hit that!
alternatively, you can power cycle the miner after apply.. but no need.
firmware wont apply without a reboot, restarting cgmner isnt enough...


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I can assure you that "Solaris 11.1 SRU 3.4.1." is quite different from modern linuxes regarding a lot of things (scheduler/memory allocation/IO etc etc etc). So I wouldn't have inferred  that since Solaris version XYZ has a problem then also Linux ver KYZ will behave in the same way in the same conditions. 

 

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November 06, 2013, 08:49:44 AM
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https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-63


"Unbeknown to the community we are currently developing the next generation product in 20nm/16nm process with Alchip "

They have time to post such news, but don't have the time to participate in their own forums and help people out on their devilish products? They aren't thinking people are going to buy from them again, do they? Is making an announcement like that just a start of mind controlling techniques in the marketing world? Also, if you tried to visit that link www.ast.com that is IN their news publication it doesn't even work.



1. The press release is from Alchip, not KnC. It's hardly mind control.
2. There just aren't enough bodies currently to maintain the forum ontop of all else. If you honestly think the reason is they cannot be bothered that's either naivety or ignorance. They have a dedicated customer support, the forum isn't a priority in my mind. It's one of the things they want me to work on and I'm flat refusing to be honest. I'm a bit disenchanted as to how I was treated here, entire threads abusing me, I'm not keen on more. I'd rather customer service focused on individual issues, and when/if my other work load dies down I'll consider it, but everytime I post I get multiple PMs.
3. Personally my own opinion i'e always followed and enjoyed the banter in Bitcointalk.
4. Thanks for letting me know about AST's deadlink, again it's Alchip 'a release. You can see it was posted y'day online. I presume they either added the incorrect link, or the site is down.


Edit: Here's the OG; http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20131105PR202.html

And AST's correct link is; www.ast.co.il I'll get it fixed Wink

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November 06, 2013, 08:59:01 AM
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Well after 5 days of nonstop stable mining my Jupiter just stopped hashing. The web interface said CGMiner was down and when SSHing in there was no screen session running. Restarting the miner via the web interface did nothing but a reboot has it back in action. Only 10 minutes of downtime but guess I still need to keep my eyes peeled for offline email warnings. Hopefully they'll eventually get it as stable as my Avalons which I have to say are 100% stable even when overclocked. Going to look at the logs when I have time tomorrow...

I've been noticing this since 0.98+ and the devs are aware of the issue and are working on it.

I lost 7 hours of mining the other day as it happened at 2am and didn't catch it until I woke up.

I have now set up an alert on my phone to catch the idle notification emails and play an siren to wake me up.


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November 06, 2013, 09:12:05 AM
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https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-63


"Unbeknown to the community we are currently developing the next generation product in 20nm/16nm process with Alchip "

They have time to post such news, but don't have the time to participate in their own forums and help people out on their devilish products? They aren't thinking people are going to buy from them again, do they? Is making an announcement like that just a start of mind controlling techniques in the marketing world? Also, if you tried to visit that link www.ast.com that is IN their news publication it doesn't even work.



1. The press release is from Alchip, not KnC. It's hardly mind control.
2. There just aren't enough bodies currently to maintain the forum ontop of all else. If you honestly think the reason is they cannot be bothered that's either naivety or ignorance. They have a dedicated customer support, the forum isn't a priority in my mind. It's one of the things they want me to work on and I'm flat refusing to be honest. I'm a bit disenchanted as to how I was treated here, entire threads abusing me, I'm not keen on more. I'd rather customer service focused on individual issues, and when/if my other work load dies down I'll consider it, but everytime I post I get multiple PMs.
3. Personally my own opinion i'e always followed and enjoyed the banter in Bitcointalk.
4. Thanks for letting me know about AST's deadlink, again it's Alchip 'a release. You can see it was posted y'day online. I presume they either added the incorrect link, or the site is down.


Edit: Here's the OG; http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20131105PR202.html

And AST's correct link is; www.ast.co.il I'll get it fixed Wink
I am sorry that you took some heat here. We all know that you meant well and that you were pretty much a neutral party until you joined knc. But you could have known there would be a shitstorm coming your way the moment they messed up their delivery for some people while others got their orders on time. Again, not your fault, I know. It was just very very VERY badly handled by KNC.
Also, there is no dedicated customer support. There are 4 people working customer support for a multi million dolalr company. But at least those 4 are halfway competent and know their jobs.

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November 06, 2013, 09:15:37 AM
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over thousand pages in thread.
Seems like we need new topic "KnCminer November orders\shipping"

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November 06, 2013, 09:25:34 AM
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It seems no one is interested in external binaries any more, but just in case they are, here is a binary for the knc devices based off the latest cgminer 3.7.0 code. There are no performance advantages for knc devices but there are networking and work scheduling fixes for people that have had issues (eg difficulty connecting to eligius or system stopping work entirely). As per previously, you'll have to ssh into and copy the binary to your device to run it.
http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/kncminer/cgminer

Bugfix update to 3.7.1. Same download location.

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November 06, 2013, 09:32:49 AM
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https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-63


"Unbeknown to the community we are currently developing the next generation product in 20nm/16nm process with Alchip "

They have time to post such news, but don't have the time to participate in their own forums and help people out on their devilish products? They aren't thinking people are going to buy from them again, do they? Is making an announcement like that just a start of mind controlling techniques in the marketing world? Also, if you tried to visit that link www.ast.com that is IN their news publication it doesn't even work.



1. The press release is from Alchip, not KnC. It's hardly mind control.
2. There just aren't enough bodies currently to maintain the forum ontop of all else. If you honestly think the reason is they cannot be bothered that's either naivety or ignorance. They have a dedicated customer support, the forum isn't a priority in my mind. It's one of the things they want me to work on and I'm flat refusing to be honest. I'm a bit disenchanted as to how I was treated here, entire threads abusing me, I'm not keen on more. I'd rather customer service focused on individual issues, and when/if my other work load dies down I'll consider it, but everytime I post I get multiple PMs.
3. Personally my own opinion i'e always followed and enjoyed the banter in Bitcointalk.
4. Thanks for letting me know about AST's deadlink, again it's Alchip 'a release. You can see it was posted y'day online. I presume they either added the incorrect link, or the site is down.


Edit: Here's the OG; http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20131105PR202.html

And AST's correct link is; www.ast.co.il I'll get it fixed Wink


Any news on the reseller portal O'rama? I know it probably isn't too high on priorities right now, but would like to see how I did.

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November 06, 2013, 09:54:15 AM
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Thanks for sharing your experience. Really value it.

Aren't you? At least in part?

No. Not even in part. For that I use a day job that fulfils that need completely (fortunately) and I think that's the case with the majority of the people in this thread (not saying that mining full time is not OK but then you will be competing with hobbyists/small investors in a way not seen in other investments, which is beneficial to Bitcoin like I discussed in an earlier post). You can start drawing future scenarios for my person or define "food" and "debt" in such a way that you can say "at least in part" but then there's very little meaning in the question: "what are you mining for?".

Short Form. I think BTC will continue to rise against traditional fiat, and I think of it more as a store of value than a daily currency.

I prefer to think of it as "mostly currency" with properties that make it hold value better in it's money aspect than most FIAT currencies, but I really don't think anyone wants us to debate that here and I'm not that interested in definitions.

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Fair enough, this probably isn't the place. Right now my time is so limited that I can't pursue this in great detail, but if you'd be interested in debating it some other time and in a new thread, I would be up for that. In reading my original post, it came off as an attack. In reality, I just hadn't had my coffee yet Smiley I find a lot of your stated opinions to be similar to mine, and I like your posts. I think it would be an engaging debate.

Anyway, I'll leave it at that for now, except to say that economics is a rather serious hobby of mine. That is what initially attracted me to bitcoin, it's a novel approach to money. Not exactly fiat, not tangible, but with elements of both. It seems a worthy experiment from many different angles.

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November 06, 2013, 10:25:22 AM
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https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-63


"Unbeknown to the community we are currently developing the next generation product in 20nm/16nm process with Alchip "

They have time to post such news, but don't have the time to participate in their own forums and help people out on their devilish products? They aren't thinking people are going to buy from them again, do they? Is making an announcement like that just a start of mind controlling techniques in the marketing world? Also, if you tried to visit that link www.ast.com that is IN their news publication it doesn't even work.



1. The press release is from Alchip, not KnC. It's hardly mind control.
2. There just aren't enough bodies currently to maintain the forum ontop of all else. If you honestly think the reason is they cannot be bothered that's either naivety or ignorance. They have a dedicated customer support, the forum isn't a priority in my mind. It's one of the things they want me to work on and I'm flat refusing to be honest. I'm a bit disenchanted as to how I was treated here, entire threads abusing me, I'm not keen on more. I'd rather customer service focused on individual issues, and when/if my other work load dies down I'll consider it, but everytime I post I get multiple PMs.
3. Personally my own opinion i'e always followed and enjoyed the banter in Bitcointalk.
4. Thanks for letting me know about AST's deadlink, again it's Alchip 'a release. You can see it was posted y'day online. I presume they either added the incorrect link, or the site is down.


Edit: Here's the OG; http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20131105PR202.html

And AST's correct link is; www.ast.co.il I'll get it fixed Wink


Any news on the reseller portal O'rama? I know it probably isn't too high on priorities right now, but would like to see how I did.

Sorry I meant to get back to you on that as you asked a while back. I did ask and Sam said right now there's a lot more that require prioritization, so re-seller portal is way down that list i'm afraid. They haven't really concentrated on marketing at all, just engineering, hence the reason with respect to stuff like adwords it's dominated by companies that aren't shipping anything, or haven't yet an tangible products. It's also why you haven't seen multiple press releases pertaining to every component they bulk ordered! Wink

They are hiring more people, but you all have to understand there's risks as how the chips would perform that were unknowns until the chip is in hand. The other issue is hiring people that can work under this kind of pressure, speed and can read from the same hymnsheet w.r.t. Bitcoin. If you hire someone who isn't they slow you down, not maintain the momentum, or even increase it. The beauty of who they do have here is that they are very competent and are excellent in their role and as part of a team. There's a dedicated RMA team now, so that's taken a lot off my shoulders as I was spending a lot of time on that. They have engineers being interviewed all the time, a couple are starting next week, and more customer support are starting over the next couple of weeks.

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