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November 02, 2013, 12:06:14 PM
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I know that KNC team is working hard to deliver the best product, but confronting the facts, I must say I am a little disappointed.

The Jupiter miner I received was running at 280 Ghash/s on firmware v0.95. That became a 0 Ghash/s miner after upgrading firmware to 0.97... Firmware revision v0.98 brought my miner back to life, but I now have poor performance.

Back in late september when I was considering asking for a refund, I was lead to think that I was going to receive on the 15th of October a 550Ghash/s miner with less than 1W/(Ghash/s) electric consumption.

What I got on the 29th of October was a 400 ghash/s Jupiter, consuming 535 Watts (1.35W/(Gh/s)).

I have ~15BTC of lost income due to late delivery and since delivery 25% lost of income per day (@todays diff~0.18BTC) due to lack of performance
And with this you add bad life time due to poor efficiency (Ghash/J).... lets say I too am a little screwed up.

I emailed them on those matter, and even if they are kindly looking on my technical problems, they choose not to answer or missed the real issue...


You have to admint that they are selling only to trick ppl

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November 02, 2013, 12:09:59 PM
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I am sure everyone has read through and absorbed this nugget, yes?  If not do so and see what most likely lies ahead.  Not to scare anyone, just to be an informed miner.


Estimate of ASIC pre-orders: 11 to 13 PH/s (diff 1.5B to 1.8B) by end of 2013

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November 02, 2013, 12:16:27 PM
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I am sure everyone has read through and absorbed this nugget, yes?  If not do so and see what most likely lies ahead.  Not to scare anyone, just to be an informed miner.


Estimate of ASIC pre-orders: 11 to 13 PH/s (diff 1.5B to 1.8B) by end of 2013


nice one post, thx for the informations. BTC is not unkown to other ppl. Everyone has heard for BTC

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November 02, 2013, 12:27:25 PM
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Hey guys,

Just to let you know that I have released BertMod 0.3 :
http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/13938-bertmod-0-3-unofficial-firmware-mod-feedback-thread

It now includes bfgminer from Nov 1st !

Happy mining
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November 02, 2013, 12:39:00 PM
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Hey guys,

Just to let you know that I have released BertMod 0.3 :
http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/13938-bertmod-0-3-unofficial-firmware-mod-feedback-thread

It now includes bfgminer from Nov 1st !

Happy mining
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wil try it thx man !

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November 02, 2013, 12:43:33 PM
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Had an interesting incident last night. I check my email after six hours and it says the KNC is dead, so I check with Putty and line after line says the share I'm submitting is from the previous block. Anyone else ever had this happen? I'm not sure if it is a cgminer error after running for 3 days or if it's because I'm playing around with a hotter miner. Anyways, resetting the miner worked and it's back to normal. We did have slightly warmer weather yesterday, but I never saw a temp higher than 48 on the miner. I would have grabbed a screenshot, but was worried I bricked the miner. lol  If it happens again, I will grab one though.

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November 02, 2013, 12:50:14 PM
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Had an interesting incident last night. I check my email after six hours and it says the KNC is dead, so I check with Putty and line after line says the share I'm submitting is from the previous block. Anyone else ever had this happen? I'm not sure if it is a cgminer error after running for 3 days or if it's because I'm playing around with a hotter miner. Anyways, resetting the miner worked and it's back to normal. We did have slightly warmer weather yesterday, but I never saw a temp higher than 48 on the miner. I would have grabbed a screenshot, but was worried I bricked the miner. lol  If it happens again, I will grab one though.

Just a note about the temps. I really don't think they are measured at the ASIC so careful with those. Wasn't it you measuring them with an IR thermometer though?

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November 02, 2013, 01:05:43 PM
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Yes, after this incident, I used the IR gun and found nothing over 140F I think it was.
Trying Bertmod right now. Seems much slower mining, but I will give it some time.

Speed is ~23% of what I was getting with cg...


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November 02, 2013, 01:19:37 PM
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Hehe. Currently at 37,000 feet doing 720mph heading from beijing to san francisco, so I am bored and keep refreshing btcguild stats. I've got a jupiter running at 520 and a sickly saturn doing 210, but I noticed my rankings says I hit a block at some point. In the past two days since Inlast checked my rankings. Is there a Quick and dirty way on btcg to tell which block was mine? I don't have port forwarding setup on my network to remotely manage my miners, which means I can't get to ssh into cgminer, (but will be able to in about 16 hours).

 Is there a log file on the miner which will show me found blocks if btcg won't? I am a diehard windows user since my dad brought home v 1.0 around 1986, so you gotta talk to me about angstrom like I'm a baby. Once I ssh in, how would I find the log files that I assume it keeps?

Damn it feels good to finally find a block and actually feel like I've contributed to the btc community rather than just collecting pplns payments for twiddling my thumbs.

Thanks guys n gals,

Dana in Santa Fe
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November 02, 2013, 01:35:01 PM
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Can you run enablecores on top of BertMod? Doesn't that require a reboot? I know if I reboot BertMod will disappear, but after 37 mins it is creeping up in speed, but still less than half of cg.

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November 02, 2013, 02:12:37 PM
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I am sure everyone has read through and absorbed this nugget, yes?  If not do so and see what most likely lies ahead.  Not to scare anyone, just to be an informed miner.


Estimate of ASIC pre-orders: 11 to 13 PH/s (diff 1.5B to 1.8B) by end of 2013

Go thru that list and laugh at all the failure....

ASICMiner? Haven't shown much as of yet and gen 2 was a fail.
Avalon? Lol...outdated chips and they screwed the entire community.
Hashfast? Delivery before Dec 31st they are now saying....many of their cusotmers are realizing that they will never make money and are jumping ship.

Bitfury...legit deliveries...only real competitor right now.

Basically everyone who bought late is now asking for a refund and they intend to buy instead of mine.


I'd say there will be no where near the difficulty that thread is proposing by the end of the year.

It's got maybe a couple more big jump in diff left and then it will stall for a bit.  

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November 02, 2013, 02:46:49 PM
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cointerra???

avalons 55nm chips that they can fkn choke on for all i care...?
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November 02, 2013, 02:49:37 PM
Last edit: November 02, 2013, 03:27:26 PM by FeedbackLoop
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I am sure everyone has read through and absorbed this nugget, yes?  If not do so and see what most likely lies ahead.  Not to scare anyone, just to be an informed miner.


Estimate of ASIC pre-orders: 11 to 13 PH/s (diff 1.5B to 1.8B) by end of 2013

Go thru that list and laugh at all the failure....

ASICMiner? Haven't shown much as of yet and gen 2 was a fail.
Avalon? Lol...outdated chips and they screwed the entire community.
Hashfast? Delivery before Dec 31st they are now saying....many of their cusotmers are realizing that they will never make money and are jumping ship.

Bitfury...legit deliveries...only real competitor right now.

Basically everyone who bought late is now asking for a refund and they intend to buy instead of mine.


I'd say there will be no where near the difficulty that thread is proposing by the end of the year.

It's got maybe a couple more big jump in diff left and then it will stall for a bit.  



True but keep in mind that ordered wafers and built machines won't go to trash even if all the customers bail out/stop buying.

Momentum from huge investments take a while to wind down.

FiatKiller: enablecores does require a reboot.
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November 02, 2013, 02:53:58 PM
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Yeah, I rebooted and got rid of BertMod. Does not work well on my machine. Everything is back to current "normal" of 269 avg hash & WU of ~3800. Also, adjusted the bags to block the heatsink slightly less, to be safer.

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November 02, 2013, 03:00:25 PM
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Looks like 0.98.1 beta did not help out my dead die.  Its been running for an hour and the current has only improved 0.1A, not enough to bring it to life.  That's a bummer.  Looks like its RMA time.  Sad

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November 02, 2013, 03:25:12 PM
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I am sure everyone has read through and absorbed this nugget, yes?  If not do so and see what most likely lies ahead.  Not to scare anyone, just to be an informed miner.


Estimate of ASIC pre-orders: 11 to 13 PH/s (diff 1.5B to 1.8B) by end of 2013

Go thru that list and laugh at all the failure....

ASICMiner? Haven't shown much as of yet and gen 2 was a fail.
Avalon? Lol...outdated chips and they screwed the entire community.
Hashfast? Delivery before Dec 31st they are now saying....many of their cusotmers are realizing that they will never make money and are jumping ship.

Bitfury...legit deliveries...only real competitor right now.

Basically everyone who bought late is now asking for a refund and they intend to buy instead of mine.


I'd say there will be no where near the difficulty that thread is proposing by the end of the year.

It's got maybe a couple more big jump in diff left and then it will stall for a bit.  



True but keep in mind that ordered wafers and built machines won't go to trash even if all the customers bail out/stop buying.

Also Bitfury's pool alone keeps increasing like a beast:
https://ghash.io/

Momentum from huge investments take a while to wind down.

In terms of competition to KNC this may mar Bitfury's credibility for the future way more than late deliveries would though:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321630.0even  


FiatKiller: enablecores does require a reboot.



When are people going to get it through their heads that ghash.io is NOT a "bitfury pool" - it was a private pool that has nothing to do with BFSB, or MBP, or Tytus.  ghash.io is NOT the 100TH mine.  Anyone that puts out at least 1 Gh/s can mine there and sell their output on cex.io.

They happen to mention Bitfury gear on their OP, but I know for a fact there are many KnC's mining there - they don't restrict the hardware you use.  It started out as a pool for some private board builds using Bitfury chips, but is now open to all.
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November 02, 2013, 03:26:58 PM
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When are people going to get it through their heads that ghash.io is NOT a "bitfury pool" - it was a private pool that has nothing to do with BFSB, or MBP, or Tytus.  ghash.io is NOT the 100TH mine.  Anyone that puts out at least 1 Gh/s can mine there and sell their output on cex.io.

They happen to mention Bitfury gear on their OP, but I know for a fact there are many KnC's mining there - they don't restrict the hardware you use.  It started out as a pool for some private board builds using Bitfury chips, but is now open to all.


Thanks. Edited above post accordingly.

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November 02, 2013, 04:54:16 PM
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I spoke to soon. My fathers Saturn, which has been running great since we got it displays this on the cgminer output screen sometimes.

013-11-02 09:28:09] KnC: core 0-34 was disabled due to 10 HW errors in a row
 [2013-11-02 09:28:14] KnC: core 4-166 was disabled due to 10 HW errors in a row

Is there a particular cause of this and is it something that can be fixed? I have ran enabledallcores and using .98 firmware. Just sub-standard hardware?



Try going back to 0.96

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November 02, 2013, 05:05:14 PM
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When are people going to get it through their heads that ghash.io is NOT a "bitfury pool"

Probably about the same time they remove this from their login page:




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Last edit: November 02, 2013, 05:34:00 PM by Phoenix1969
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Had an interesting incident last night. I check my email after six hours and it says the KNC is dead, so I check with Putty and line after line says the share I'm submitting is from the previous block. Anyone else ever had this happen? I'm not sure if it is a cgminer error after running for 3 days or if it's because I'm playing around with a hotter miner. Anyways, resetting the miner worked and it's back to normal. We did have slightly warmer weather yesterday, but I never saw a temp higher than 48 on the miner. I would have grabbed a screenshot, but was worried I bricked the miner. lol  If it happens again, I will grab one though.

Just a note about the temps. I really don't think they are measured at the ASIC so careful with those.  
Wasn't it you measuring them with an IR thermometer though?

I just gotta say.....Bullshit... I ran 2 of my Sats all the way up to 95C.
All 3 sats love to run at 70C, that's the "Sweetspot".  How can you be warning peeps at 48C? That's just not correcct... at all.
Emily even stated in an e-mail---rated to 105...  
Do you really think they meant temp from some other source than the thermometer reading they provided? ....lolz.


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