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September 09, 2017, 04:23:27 PM
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I might do that, but except Uber-Mix those other timings are leaked and creator of that PBE took it somewhere not even mention the original creator of those timings, probably he doesn't even know who made them. They aren't so good, it won't work with every cards. Some memory types is missing there. And for some vendors it should also detect VRAM size. Maybe in next version.

Isn't it too early for you to tell all of these?

I want to see which cards have you tried with this PBE 1.6 and what are your results.
Then I would want to see your comparison with the output of this PBE to your "custom" timing straps if they are really night and day.

I'm a proponent of free and accessible stuff for the benefit of everyone after all.
Well me too, I've made this guide for all for free. I've got 0 tip for that. What do you do for the good of mining community?
The PBE 1.6 is out for few weeks now. I've seen all those timings months ago, they aren't new. Wolf0 was talking about the Hynix strap I think he marked it with B-. They use it on youtube videos for a while now... only new thing the PBE 1.6 do is the one click edit. But still it's better than copy 1500Mhz straps.

Funny you give them away for free now. I recall earlier in this thread you're selling them (even when they're not yours) and just reverted when you've been called out.

I might not have my "own" thread like these but I help if I can, not only in this board, but on other boards and forums as well.

If you're a good samaritan, why not post all the links to all BIOS mods you have in the first page of this thread? Why there's still a "PM me" thing i'm seeing?

Let's see if you can do that.  Grin

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September 09, 2017, 04:41:18 PM
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Funny you give them away for free now. I recall earlier in this thread you're selling them (even when they're not yours) and just reverted when you've been called out.

I might not have my "own" thread like these but I help if I can, not only in this board, but on other boards and forums as well.

If you're a good samaritan, why not post all the links to all BIOS mods you have in the first page of this thread? Why there's still a "PM me" thing i'm seeing?

Let's see if you can do that.  Grin
Why would I do that? I'm not a charity.
BTW again thanks for promoting this thread, half you your post are in here.

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Hi Guys SO I have made some progress since  early on.....
I took the risk of trying again.... this time more calm.... So, I have backup the bios with ATIWinFlash..... I copy the timings from 1750 to 2000 and to 2250....
Restarted a few times and applied the patch the bios check and looks like it worked. I have three cards I have flashed one by one and restarted after each time and at the end after doing this to all three I have applied the patch and restarted again....

Using Trixx I have setup to GPU clock 1150 - Memory 2000 Power Limit 0% GPU Voltage -96 give or take this is the average for the cards with a few tweaks here and there..... (Still have a long way to run to find out the best specs)

It's giving me a 24mh each so all this for 7mhz more...

Its looking stable however I am sure its possible to find a better timing and get a better performance... Overall the all system is pulling 400W from the wall... This shown by a Watt Meter on the main plug.... so same wattage however a little bit more hash.... I just though maybe would be able to help someone on the same problem .... Still as a said before not perfect and I might try other timing later on...
 
You won't get far with copying these straps. :/ You might set lower voltages in bios.

MatthewV: When you say lower voltage in bios what do you mean? Undervolt  - Directly on the VBios Config? (My Exxperience with Bios Modding was at the time of the 8800GTX and the propose was for Games not for mining, so if you could elaborate on this  I would appreciate).

In the mean time I have found some one placing their memory timing from a Rx580 and all the timings were exactly the same of my original memory timing as my one is a 8gb hynix.... so I yried the timing on the card the: 777000000000000022AA1C00B56A6D46C0551017BE8E060C006AE6000C081420EA8900AB0300000 01B162C31C0313F17
 I tried on the 1725 2000 2250 and is going up to 25.5 stable I would say.... even do my card is Rx470 its working for now... 45 to 50 degrees celsius......

Still no way close to the 28/29mhz objective.... If anyone has a new timing of config to improve the hashrate with stability let me know... I would say I am doing what I can for my self and community as I am leaving behind every step..... (I am not a quiter so I be around for little nit more I would say)

 
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September 09, 2017, 08:34:37 PM
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MatthewV: When you say lower voltage in bios what do you mean? Undervolt  - Directly on the VBios Config? (My Exxperience with Bios Modding was at the time of the 8800GTX and the propose was for Games not for mining, so if you could elaborate on this  I would appreciate).

In the mean time I have found some one placing their memory timing from a Rx580 and all the timings were exactly the same of my original memory timing as my one is a 8gb hynix.... so I yried the timing on the card the: 777000000000000022AA1C00B56A6D46C0551017BE8E060C006AE6000C081420EA8900AB0300000 01B162C31C0313F17
 I tried on the 1725 2000 2250 and is going up to 25.5 stable I would say.... even do my card is Rx470 its working for now... 45 to 50 degrees celsius......

Still no way close to the 28/29mhz objective.... If anyone has a new timing of config to improve the hashrate with stability let me know... I would say I am doing what I can for my self and community as I am leaving behind every step..... (I am not a quiter so I be around for little nit more I would say)

 
I've mentioned in the guide how to do that, it need some improvement it's not really clear. I will update it.
You may use static voltages like 950mV for exact clocks, or you may use dynamic voltages those are stock in bios. I don't know what clocks are you using so for stability you might use 1250MHz with 65285 voltage or 65284 if you are using lower clocks. The voltage table must going upwards. Voltage must be same or higher than the previous one.
You also need to OC the memory for best performance.

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September 10, 2017, 03:55:17 PM
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hi Mattthev,
my gigabyte Gv-rx580gaming-8gd (hynix) only have 1:1500...don't have 1:1750 and 1:2000,why is this issue?
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September 10, 2017, 11:02:48 PM
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From github.com/jaschaknack/PolarisBiosEditor, inside the file PolarisBiosEditor.cs you can read the following timings:

Code:
SAMSUNG
"777000000000000022CC1C00AD615C41C0590E152ECC8608006007000B031420FA8900A00300000010122F3FBA354019"

HYNIX
"777000000000000022AA1C00B56A6D46C0551017BE8E060C006AE6000C081420EA8900AB030000001B162C31C0313F17"

Micron
"777000000000000022AA1C0073626C41B0551016BA0D260B006AE60004061420EA8940AA030000001914292EB22E3B16"

Elpida
"777000000000000022AA1C00315A5436A0550F15B68C1506004082007C041420CA8980A9020004C01712262B612B3715"
Just place them on the 1:2000 (or 2:2000), set VRAM clock to 2000, save and flash your bios.
If you are going to run your vrams at >2000mhz, only patch the 2000 timing.

On SAPPHIRE RX580 PULSE 4GB (elpida) @ 2080mhz I do 31,2MH/s (no errors on hwinfo). Not bad for a "free" timing.
Give them a try

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September 10, 2017, 11:27:59 PM
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Just place them on the 1:2000 (or 2:2000), set VRAM clock to 2000, save and flash your bios.
If you are going to run your vrams at >2000mhz, only patch the 2000 timing.

On SAPPHIRE RX580 PULSE 4GB (elpida) @ 2080mhz I do 31,2MH/s (no errors on hwinfo). Not bad for a "free" timing.
Give them a try
Why to do it like that? If you want these timings use the PBE Cheesy One click and that's it...

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September 12, 2017, 08:30:40 PM
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Hi All

I have some PowerColor RX570 Red Dragon 4GB Cards. They have Hynix & Elpida RAM (2 Sided) when i look. GPUZ States Elpida.

I need some help with an good Bios Mod to increase the Mh/s to over 29 + and lower the power on the cards a bit or what ever is recommend.

Then i have some Asus RX560 4GB Strix Cards Micron looking this as well to get something over 14.x or even over 15 if possible.

Also i am using SMOS so need to know what is should use for the settings there well.

Thanks In Advanced Smiley
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September 13, 2017, 01:48:20 AM
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I have four of the same Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4 GB cards. I get 28.25-29.25 MH/s ETH and 730 - 745 MH/s dual mining DCR after flashing the Bios BBT posted in the description of the video he did for those cards. I'm using 1200 MHz core clcok and 1975-2075 MHz overclock for the memory in Afterburner with a -96 mV undervolt and -15% Power limit.  Great cards, only after using HWinfo to check for memory errors, I found not all cards can take 2075 MHz for the memory, so I have to use 1975 MHz. They also run hot when dual mining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC3WQLEDZN0&feature=youtu.be&t=6207
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I have four of the same Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4 GB cards. I get 28.25-29.25 MH/s ETH and 730 - 745 MH/s dual mining DCR after flashing the Bios BBT posted in the description of the video he did for those cards. I'm using 1200 MHz core clcok and 1975-2075 MHz overclock for the memory in Afterburner with a -96 mV undervolt and -15% Power limit.  Great cards, only after using HWinfo to check for memory errors, I found not all cards can take 2075 MHz for the memory, so I have to use 1975 MHz. They also run hot when dual mining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC3WQLEDZN0&feature=youtu.be&t=6207
Well, it's not his. It's the same timing strap mentioned before. You also need to undervolt in bios if you want to use AB or use better utility. I will post link to new OverDrivenTool for blockchain drivers.

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September 13, 2017, 08:38:45 AM
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Added links to OC tools.
For Blockchain drivers use https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/overdriventool-tool-for-amd-gpus.416116/
It's like WattTool, but working with new drivers.

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September 13, 2017, 10:45:37 AM
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@Vann & @Mattthev Thanks for the info.

Could i get some help with the undervolt in the BIOS of the Mod since i have read the forms but do not want to screw this up. I am not using Windows.
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I have four of the same Powercolor Red Dragon RX 570 4 GB cards. I get 28.25-29.25 MH/s ETH and 730 - 745 MH/s dual mining DCR after flashing the Bios BBT posted in the description of the video he did for those cards. I'm using 1200 MHz core clcok and 1975-2075 MHz overclock for the memory in Afterburner with a -96 mV undervolt and -15% Power limit.  Great cards, only after using HWinfo to check for memory errors, I found not all cards can take 2075 MHz for the memory, so I have to use 1975 MHz. They also run hot when dual mining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC3WQLEDZN0&feature=youtu.be&t=6207
Well, it's not his. It's the same timing strap mentioned before. You also need to undervolt in bios if you want to use AB or use better utility. I will post link to new OverDrivenTool for blockchain drivers.

No it's not. Comparing the Bios BBT posted in the video to the original Bios, it looks like he just copied the original 1500 timings to the higher frequencies in both sets of straps. I also tried it with the PBE v1.6 'one click' straps, but the BBT Bios worked slightly better.

PowerColor Red Dragon RX 570 4GB Original Bios:



PowerColor Red Dragon RX 570 4GB BBT Bios:



Afterburner 4.4.0 Beta 16 works fine in Windows 10 with the AMD blokchain drivers. While dual mining, HWinfo is showing 0.897 V core voltage and 103.8 W average with a -96 mV undervolt and -15% Power limit in Afterburner.

https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/rtss-6-7-0-beta-1.412822/page-32#post-5459908

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No it's not. Comparing the Bios BBT posted in the video to the original Bios, it looks like he just copied the original 1500 timings to the higher frequencies in both sets of straps. I also tried it with the PBE v1.6 'one click' straps, but the BBT Bios worked slightly better.
Oh sorry my bad. It was his another video where he has bios with that timing, I haven't looked at this one... Yeah that timing strap in PBE is not very good.

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No it's not. Comparing the Bios BBT posted in the video to the original Bios, it looks like he just copied the original 1500 timings to the higher frequencies in both sets of straps. I also tried it with the PBE v1.6 'one click' straps, but the BBT Bios worked slightly better.
Oh sorry my bad. It was his another video where he has bios with that timing, I haven't looked at this one... Yeah that timing strap in PBE is not very good.

@Mattthev Can you help me out at all please on what i should use if this is bad.

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@Mattthev Can you help me out at all please on what i should use if this is bad.

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It's not bad, but also not very good. I don't like downloaded bios from the internet... if you want free bios mod do it yourself it would be at least the same as the downloaded but much safer.

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No it's not. Comparing the Bios BBT posted in the video to the original Bios, it looks like he just copied the original 1500 timings to the higher frequencies in both sets of straps. I also tried it with the PBE v1.6 'one click' straps, but the BBT Bios worked slightly better.
Oh sorry my bad. It was his another video where he has bios with that timing, I haven't looked at this one... Yeah that timing strap in PBE is not very good.

I wouldn't say the PBE v1.6 bundled straps aren't that good. For most of the cards I have they worked great. With the Sapphire Nitro+ RX 580 8GB it gave me almost 31 MH/s and with the Sapphire Pulse RX 580 4GB I'm getting almost 30 MH/s. The others like my ASUS STRIX RX 480 8GB cards are over 29 MH/s. Probably not the best timings possible, but in most cases definitely better than just copying the original straps down.

Also just because someone shares a Bios made with publicly posted straps doesen't mean it's bad. As I remember, YOU were busted by Wolf0 for SELLING his straps which were NOT posted publicly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1954245.msg19577024#msg19577024
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I wouldn't say the PBE v1.6 bundled straps aren't that good. For most of the cards I have they worked great. With the Sapphire Nitro+ RX 580 8GB it gave me almost 31 MH/s and with the Sapphire Pulse RX 580 4GB I'm getting almost 30 MH/s. The others like my ASUS STRIX RX 480 8GB cards are over 29 MH/s. Probably not the best timings possible, but in most cases definitely better than just copying the original straps down.

Also just because someone shares a Bios made with publicly posted straps doesen't mean it's bad. As I remember, YOU were busted by Wolf0 for SELLING his straps which were NOT posted publicly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1954245.msg19577024#msg19577024
Well, I specifically said "It's not bad, but also not very good." and I also said: "But still it's better than copy 1500Mhz straps".
BTW: It was Eliovp timing strap. I paid for that timing elsewhere, didn't know it was his. The timing strap is publicly released.

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I wouldn't say the PBE v1.6 bundled straps aren't that good. For most of the cards I have they worked great. With the Sapphire Nitro+ RX 580 8GB it gave me almost 31 MH/s and with the Sapphire Pulse RX 580 4GB I'm getting almost 30 MH/s. The others like my ASUS STRIX RX 480 8GB cards are over 29 MH/s. Probably not the best timings possible, but in most cases definitely better than just copying the original straps down.

Also just because someone shares a Bios made with publicly posted straps doesen't mean it's bad. As I remember, YOU were busted by Wolf0 for SELLING his straps which were NOT posted publicly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1954245.msg19577024#msg19577024
Well, I specifically said "It's not bad, but also not very good." and I also said: "But still it's better than copy 1500Mhz straps".
BTW: It was Eliovp timing strap. I paid for that timing elsewhere, didn't know it was his. The timing strap is publicly released.


OK, I remembered it was something about selling straps that weren't your own.
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sorry, but can you know what this uber mix is? Cry
I can, but you seem confused Cheesy Uber-Mix is performance timing strap for Samsung memory.

I'am using Ubermix and that mod is only increase a bit my 4x470s Samsung hashrate, just 1 mh/s more but others doesn't works for me

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