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March 23, 2018, 06:08:04 AM
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similar to what Canaan is doing by having kano.is as the factory default in their burn-in test process.
I figured something related to that is why Canaan don't talk to me any more.  These days they only send me advertisements like any other customer. Cheesy

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March 23, 2018, 08:37:42 AM
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similar to what Canaan is doing by having kano.is as the factory default in their burn-in test process.
I figured something related to that is why Canaan don't talk to me any more.  These days they only send me advertisements like any other customer. Cheesy

Canaan certainly wants to keep their customers happy, and with their warranty,  and reliable products they do. Going back "on topic" before the mod deletes our posts Wink, it would be nice to see that amount of Customer Service and Support from Halong too. It would certainly repair their reputation from the way the Dragonmint was shrouded in secrecy. The #1 reason people believe that it's real is because of YOU -ck. Had they not chosen you, the only other reliable, trusted information would come from philipma's inquiries.

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March 23, 2018, 01:02:21 PM
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similar to what Canaan is doing by having kano.is as the factory default in their burn-in test process.
I figured something related to that is why Canaan don't talk to me any more.  These days they only send me advertisements like any other customer. Cheesy

Do you know if Kano.is will be supporting version rolling asic boost and the DragonMint T1?
I like the idea of a smaller pool but too small like 1 block a month scares me, I would be happy to join kano.is if they supported the T1.

You should ask Kano that question.

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March 23, 2018, 01:46:49 PM
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Looks like they're in wild:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMining/comments/86jzj7/dragonmint_t1_by_halong_mining_finally_shipped/

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March 23, 2018, 01:49:19 PM
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similar to what Canaan is doing by having kano.is as the factory default in their burn-in test process.
I figured something related to that is why Canaan don't talk to me any more.  These days they only send me advertisements like any other customer. Cheesy

Do you know if Kano.is will be supporting version rolling asic boost and the DragonMint T1?
I like the idea of a smaller pool but too small like 1 block a month scares me, I would be happy to join kano.is if they supported the T1.

Kano said he'll support it if someone gets one and points it to a test pool so he can tune the pool's code and test ASICBOOST. I'll do that when mine arrives, if no one else beats me to it.
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March 23, 2018, 04:06:06 PM
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Also, new setup video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQOU1PLKerk

Maybe time to move this into Hardware?
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March 23, 2018, 04:08:21 PM
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cgminer api will work with halong?
all commands implemented?
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March 23, 2018, 04:44:32 PM
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Still yet to get tracking from MyRig/Yoshi , but it looks like we are very close.


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March 23, 2018, 04:50:34 PM
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Still yet to get tracking from MyRig/Yoshi , but it looks like we are very close.

Awesome.

I'm eagerly waiting to see deep inside a DragonMint unit.  

I'm so glad it worked out great for you Phil,
thumbs up for mr. Yoshi Goto.  Smiley

Halong has not made any further contact with me after our latest messages and the retail price is too high for me,
so most likely I won't be having a DragonMint unit for a review.

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March 23, 2018, 07:00:06 PM
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Also, new setup video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQOU1PLKerk

Maybe time to move this into Hardware?
Until Phil or someone else that isn't Halong makes an actual review of this hardware that shows these miners actually running with substantial proof, this is fine in Mining Speculation.

Keep us updated and put the review in Hardware when you get it, Phil! Can't wait to see how the DragonMint actually mines, and the moment when people realize Halong isn't an absolute scam after all Cheesy. It's been a while since anything of note that is legit has been released.
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March 23, 2018, 08:33:51 PM
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Also, new setup video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQOU1PLKerk

Maybe time to move this into Hardware?
Until Phil or someone else that isn't Halong makes an actual review of this hardware that shows these miners actually running with substantial proof, this is fine in Mining Speculation.

Keep us updated and put the review in Hardware when you get it, Phil! Can't wait to see how the DragonMint actually mines, and the moment when people realize Halong isn't an absolute scam after all Cheesy. It's been a while since anything of note that is legit has been released.

Yeah I really  want to test this out  like today , but no new info from MyRig/Yoshi

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March 24, 2018, 02:02:59 AM
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what's the tl;dr answer to March shipping of these units?  Weren't the first batch promised to ship by March?
Well I'm not privy to what's going on in the factory but I also never sign any NDAs so I can tell you there is a mad scramble to get hardware out ASAP and they've been leaning hard on me to try and make sure the first firmware it's being released with works as reliably and solidly as possible. There will definitely be firmware updates in the future but for now things seem to be pretty close. I got involved very late in the piece and I've worked very hard in the last couple of weeks but there are limits to my time and just what I can achieve to get working code out.

One thing I have managed to achieve is to add tuning to the driver. The driver has a 5 stage tuning process to try and set the lowest stable voltage possible for minimal power consumption and then it tunes each chip individually to the highest frequency it will tolerate to try and optimise the hashrate. It also has a PID type fan controller to try and maintain optimal temperature with minimal fanspeed. There are a few emergency things included too in case of fan failure, chain dropouts etc.

Oh wow. Sweet!

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March 24, 2018, 03:40:23 PM
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Well well well, look at this news:

Quote from: Slush Pool
Our block #514882 is the first-ever block mined using the active version-rolling aka overt AsicBoost. According to the available evidence, it was mined by @HalongMining hardware. Congrats to lucky miner from Guangdong, China
https://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000000003aeeeb86c897beda31ee4ec48741828f938b7c1be5cf3d
https://twitter.com/slush_pool/status/977499667985518592

Hashrate is reported as 16th/s by Slush. So It wasn't a scam after all. Or should we wait till we see the actual product?

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March 24, 2018, 06:17:52 PM
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Well well well, look at this news:

Quote from: Slush Pool
Our block #514882 is the first-ever block mined using the active version-rolling aka overt AsicBoost. According to the available evidence, it was mined by @HalongMining hardware. Congrats to lucky miner from Guangdong, China
https://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000000003aeeeb86c897beda31ee4ec48741828f938b7c1be5cf3d
https://twitter.com/slush_pool/status/977499667985518592

Hashrate is reported as 16th/s by Slush. So It wasn't a scam after all. Or should we wait till we see the actual product?

For me the proof will be when the product is shipping normally. Not saying anything is a scam, but I will fully trust a product and it's company when it has a track record. News, pictures, 3rd hand info, etc are all great, but the proof is when you pay your money and get the product each time every time...

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[....] Not saying anything is a scam, but I will fully trust a product and it's company when it has a track record. News, pictures, 3rd hand info, etc are all great, but the proof is when you pay your money and get the product each time every time...
Agreed, but we must require more of Halong Mining before we can consider it legitimate. The proof also requires that Halong Mining discloses who and what "Halong Mining" is -- i.e.:

(1) where or if it is incorporated (or otherwise legally organized) such as city, state, province, and country;

(2) what is the physical address of its principal office;

(3) where can an individual, court or government deliver legal service of process in the event Halong Mining must be held accountable (hypothetically) in court for any valid causes of action (e.g., design defect, breach of warranty, theft of intellectual property or trade secrets, etc.);

These are fundamental facts about any legitimate company required when conducting due diligence.

How can a datacenter responsible to its customers, for example, co-locate the DragonMint if its FCC license is unverifiable and the "company" itself offers no proof of how it can be held accountable? Accountability shifts to the datacenter in this example because Halong Mining still fails the due diligence test, and a responsible datacenter company just can't accept any random hardware. I don't mean to spoil the party -- it's great that it looks like people will actually be receiving a functioning 16 Th/s miner, complete with drivers from -ck that appear cutting edge. I purchased several DragonMints months ago (and I admit I did so impulsively, before I conducted my usual due diligence, which I have regretted), but we still must demand more of Halong Mining. Minimum acceptable standards exist for conducting international business in this world, and Halong Mining still is not meeting them through its shady actions.

If you bought a DragonMint and plug it in, just remember you have no one you can hold accountable if it burns down your farm due to a design defect. No one. Does that bother any one else besides me?
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March 24, 2018, 07:04:11 PM
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If you bought a DragonMint and plug it in, just remember you have no one you can hold accountable if it burns down your farm due to a design defect. No one. Does that bother any one else besides me?

And if I Bitmain S9 burns down my farm here in the USA you really think I could hold a Chinese company accountable?

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March 24, 2018, 08:01:30 PM
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There's also nothing wrong with wanting to be able to find out who or what's behind the business. I do not think what Dr.Mann is asking is out of line, especially when talking about a very large scale.

Pick on the analogy all day, but again he's not being unreasonable.

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If you bought a DragonMint and plug it in, just remember you have no one you can hold accountable if it burns down your farm due to a design defect. No one. Does that bother any one else besides me?

And if I Bitmain S9 burns down my farm here in the USA you really think I could hold a Chinese company accountable?

In the case of Bitmain, 100% you can hold it accountable if Bitmain (hypothetically) were negligent or grossly negligent in manufacturing hardware that caused your farm to burn down.

Bitmain Inc. is a Delaware, USA corporation, a subsidiary of its Chinese parent corporation. A plaintiff can hold any Chinese company accountable in the USA, if the Chinese company has assets in the USA, or if the Chinese company has organized a USA subsidiary.

You could sue Bitmain in Delaware. Bitmain's Delaware details are here:  https://i.imgur.com/C1mV1wK.png

File Number: 5670168
Incorporation Date / Formation Date: January 7, 2015
Entity Name: BITMAIN INC.
Entity Kind: Corporation
Residency: Domestic   
State: DELAWARE

REGISTERED AGENT INFORMATION
Name: COGENCY GLOBAL INC.
Address: 850 NEW BURTON ROAD SUITE 201
City: DOVER   
County: Kent
State: DE   
Postal Code: 19904
Phone: +1 302-734-1450

You could sue Bitmain in California. Bitmain's California details are here: https://i.imgur.com/k05erMO.png

File Number: C3791198
Incorporation Date / Formation Date: 05/26/2015
Entity Name: BITMAIN INC.
Jurisdiction: DELAWARE
Entity Type: FOREIGN STOCK
Status: ACTIVE

REGISTERED AGENT INFORMATION
Name: ROBERT J. STEMLER
Address: 400 OCEANGATE, SUITE 1400
City: LONG BEACH
State: CA
Postal Code: 90802

Entity Address: 251 HIGH STREET, SUITE B
City: PALO ALTO
State: CA
Postal Code: 94301

Bitmain is incorporated or authorized to conduct business in numerous states within the USA, and these are just two examples. Bitmain is also authorized to conduct business or is incorporated in New York and Colorado, and likely other states as well. You could sue Bitmain in those states too.

You could sue Bitmain in Switzerland. Bitmain is incorporated in Switzerland. See: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-markets-bitcoin-china-mining/chinese-bitcoin-mining-giant-sets-up-swiss-subsidiary-idUSKBN1EZ27V

Bitmain Switzerland AG's details are here: https://zg.chregister.ch/cr-portal/auszug/auszug.xhtml?uid=CHE-384.917.561

You could sue Bitmain in numerous other countries around the world, and then seek to have the judgment enforced in Switzerland or the USA. See: http://www.mondaq.com/x/203698/trials+appeals+compensation/Enforcement+Of+Foreign+Judgments+In+Switzerland

You have the option of suing Bitmain in Mainland China, in addition to suing Bitmain in the USA, Switzerland, and other countries. A foreign company typically will not encounter any jurisdictional issues suing a Chinese company in Mainland China. Specifically, Articles 3 and 237 of the Civil Procedure Law of the People's Republic of China grant Chinese courts jurisdiction over international cases involving a foreign plaintiff against a Chinese company.

Bitmain Inc., unlike "Halong Mining", clearly complies with international business norms in terms of disclosing specifically how and where it can be held accountable. This is exactly the kind of information we must demand from Halong Mining. Unless and until it provides it, we have no reason to think it is a legitimate operation, because we have no way to hold it accountable.
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March 24, 2018, 08:50:21 PM
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Well well well, look at this news:

Quote from: Slush Pool
Our block #514882 is the first-ever block mined using the active version-rolling aka overt AsicBoost. According to the available evidence, it was mined by @HalongMining hardware. Congrats to lucky miner from Guangdong, China
https://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000000003aeeeb86c897beda31ee4ec48741828f938b7c1be5cf3d
https://twitter.com/slush_pool/status/977499667985518592

Hashrate is reported as 16th/s by Slush. So It wasn't a scam after all. Or should we wait till we see the actual product?

So it was the "actual Dragonmint" that found the block??? Seems very convenient. When you say "reported by Slush", is it really Slush? Or a conglomerate of business officials who control Slush Pool??? Very likely the latter, since Slush is a Corporate Entity at this point, who would like to get more users from the coattails of a new technology, from a vague company. At least,  -ck announced they were "burning in" Dragonmint miners on his pool. He hit 2 blocks yesterday, and didn't boast this blatant claim, for the purpose of beggars marketing.

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March 24, 2018, 08:51:41 PM
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@ Dr Mann you have a good point.

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