DragonMint T1 16TH/S halongmining.com

[philipma1957]

Ok. Why does Yoshi want to remain quiet about that detail?

Yes there is a difference, but it's quite obvious that both are Innosilicon designs.

Wouldn't be the first "close relationship" Innosilicon has had with another manufacturer.
Consider the "Dragon Miner" series and their ancestory to the A2.

My guess is  the miners are the same other then active  asic boost on the Dragonmint 1

Which is why yoshi  did ask me  to not give every detail in our emails.

He did say that  certain parts  are in  common on various miners.

The unboxing  video  looked like the fans are the same as the antminer s-9.  It does not mean  that the dragonmint is an s-9

I am sure  the inside heat sinks will look like  the s-9  and not the avalon.  If I get my promised demo I will open case and look at heat sinks.

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[Cøbra]

Not sure why useful replies are being deleted from this thread? Why delete rightful doubts about purchasing a product, or clear non-trolling replies, what is this excessive stomping down on organic discussion going to achieve?

From what I've heard so far, and discussions in private with people, I'm noticing two things:

- People who ordered bulk units of Dragonmint miners haven't had anything shipped to them
- People who ordered any of the other algo miners also haven't had anything shipped to them (there are "delays")
- There is noticeable secrecy around photos of their miners for other algorithms

Since the Dragonmint control board is clearly an Innosilicon design, and even the Web UI is a simple reskin/reshuffle of the Innosilicon UI. It seems clear what has happened here. And people called this out months ago in this thread. Halong Mining has somehow got their hands on some small volume of a prototype Innosilicon BTC miner, and presented this as their own, and this is what is being shipped to a limited set of customers right now.

Even now, you can visit their Twitter and see they've retweeted a fake Russian story from an "oleg15891" (who is associated with this operation), https://twitter.com/halongmining. The whole thing is starting to stink unfortunately.

[zerobias]

I am sure  the inside heat sinks will look like  the s-9  and not the avalon.  If I get my promised demo I will open case and look at heat sinks.

actually there are already T1 boards photos on the internets

[NotFuzzyWarm]

I am sure  the inside heat sinks will look like  the s-9  and not the avalon.  If I get my promised demo I will open case and look at heat sinks.

actually there are already T1 boards photos on the internets

And heavens forbid you be useful here and provide links to them....
You're new here so perhaps you don't understand that this is a technical forum, not just a social media site where folks spout off with whatever they feel like. That means providing proof of statements like that.

Halong has been putting up far too many brand-new accounts to disseminate their marketing spiels for us to 'just believe'.

[zerobias]

I am sure  the inside heat sinks will look like  the s-9  and not the avalon.  If I get my promised demo I will open case and look at heat sinks.

actually there are already T1 boards photos on the internets

And heavens forbid you be useful here and provide links to them....
You're new here so perhaps you don't understand that this is a technical forum, not just a social media site where folks spout off with whatever they feel like. That means providing proof of statements like that.

Halong has been putting up far too many brand-new accounts to disseminate their marketing spiels for us to 'just believe'.

here you go bud https://imgur.com/gallery/TRRGO

[Zand_]

Just received my 5x DragonMints. So much for them being vaporware, time to unbox!

[Sandal_Hat]

My guess is that the 1 is just a batch number.

Nice to see that machine live,
I asked him if he could take a photo of the full control board without breaking any seals.

EDIT:
Cool, after I asked and mentioned few tips Brian took out carefully the control board and took a photo of it.

https://twitter.com/brianchoffman/status/979506673021784064

Here’s the control board in all its glory @HalongMining T1

Picture

Here is a quick comparison I made.

Comparison screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/7av9xSu.jpg

On left you can see the Dragonmint T1 control board
and on right you can see the Innosilicon A4+ control board.

Can you people now believe that I was not crazy talking,
when I said that the control board design is exactly same? 

Innosilicon is involved in this project in some way,
but I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing.

I've been running some A4+ and A5 machines with no issues so far.

It looks the same indeed. Pretty much exactly. They definitely have something to do with it. I dont see how it can be so precise otherwise.

[HagssFIN]

Yeah.

Cobra posted my comparison image in Twitter
and there was quite a lot of discussion going on.

Link: https://twitter.com/CobraBitcoin/status/979511767389933569

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Just received my 5x DragonMints. So much for them being vaporware, time to unbox!

Do be sure to try them on both an AB tweaked pool (slush) and one of the far more common non-AB pools such as kano.is and yes perhaps one of the SHA256 alt coin (BCH) pools as well.

Will be interesting to see how they perform.

[Sandal_Hat]

Yeah.

Cobra posted my comparison image in Twitter
and there was quite a lot of discussion going on.

Link: https://twitter.com/CobraBitcoin/status/979511767389933569

It is almost exactly the same. Safe to say innosilicon is halong mining. Even the words G19 and G29,etc. Real similar

Back then, there was a big miner that said innosilicon claims they have nothing to do with halong. Hmmm

[zerobias]

ain’t nobody wants to discuss pcb photos i posted on page 82?

[Sandal_Hat]

ain’t nobody wants to discuss pcb photos i posted on page 82?

Wat does it show?? significance wise.

[HagssFIN]

Buck converter design looks to be much like in the S9.

The hash board cooling design is almost copied from the Antminer S9.

Invidual heat sinks, the v-shape area without heat sinks.

[Sandal_Hat]

Buck converter design looks to be much like in the S9.

The hash board cooling design is almost copied from the Antminer S9.

Invidual heat sinks, the v-shape area without heat sinks.

I am not familiar as I have never open the S9 before.
U think they will get a lawsuit from bitmain?

[zerobias]

Buck converter design looks to be much like in the S9.

The hash board cooling design is almost copied from the Antminer S9.

Invidual heat sinks, the v-shape area without heat sinks.

thanks, and innosilicon-wise, though the plot was halong is inno, not bitmain

[HagssFIN]

You asked for my comments and I gave them. 

I don't know what kind of patens Bitmain has,
it is hard to say if there will be any lawsuits.

I do know that Bitmain has had or is currently having a lawsuit
with WhatsMiner company.

[sidehack]

I glanced over the hashboard photo and immediately looked at an S9 board. Conceptually similar, even the same number of chips, but not the same. At least with the one I have as a reference.

[Biffa]

Currently my experience is similar to other manufacturers in the past, in that their ability to get the paperwork done and tracking numbers entered into their system is lagging behind the shipments. Heck even bitmain still does it now and then.

Now I may be being very generous to them, but that's the feedback I am getting from their support team, and given ck's involvement I'm more inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt that the hardware exists.

Obviously hardware existing is no guarantee of it arriving in a timely manner.

Unfortunately mine are not arriving into my hot little hands but going to a datacentre, I'll ask them for some unboxing and setup photos/videos if they have a chance.

I've had the tracking information emailed to me. I know most of you know I've been mining a long time, so as soon as they hit the ground I'll get some photos of the unboxing made and the setup even if I have to pay support costs to do it

[Sandal_Hat]

Buck converter design looks to be much like in the S9.

The hash board cooling design is almost copied from the Antminer S9.

Invidual heat sinks, the v-shape area without heat sinks.

thanks, and innosilicon-wise, though the plot was halong is inno, not bitmain

Hmmm speculative theory.

Halong is Innosilicon?

Reasons:
-Control board is similar
-All halongs 4 algorithm asic are different from all innosilicon asic algo. Halong could release more smaller algo asics like SIA and Decred but no litecoin or dash? (not that i want them to do so and compete more)
-The T1 has similar hashboard design to S9. So, if a lawsuit occurs, it goes to halong and not innosilicon. Thus, safer to use another entity. Bitmain is aggressive and is sue-ing whatsminer after all.
-They were able to release new Algo miners for sale quickly, as if the miners were developed and in use before hand. They release those miners around the same time bitmain did.


Hmmmm

Just my 2 cents speculation

[-ck]

Do be sure to try them on both an AB tweaked pool (slush) and one of the far more common non-AB pools

That's pointless. As I pointed out they do NOT run without AB.