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January 25, 2018, 09:48:26 PM
Last edit: January 25, 2018, 10:10:10 PM by Toltekayotl
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His suggestion isn't the solution, but mine would. The problem is that if the initial merit score is equal to the minimum required for the rank you have, at least half of the people of this forum (those whose activity is closer to the upper range of their rank than to the lower one) will feel they have been treated in a way which is not fair. That's 50% of the members of Bitcointalk. And those who were only one week away from the next rank will feel particularly bad, especially if you are going for a higher rank (like from Senior to Hero) and in one moment you are losing 6 months of activity, since activity without the corresponding merit has no value any more. On the other side, if the initial merit score is more progressively and proportionatelly distributed, nobody would feel the system has treated HIM in an unjust way. Someone has said that now it's too late for changes because the system has already been implemented. This would be true if you had to take away merits from people. But in fact, what I'm suggesting is that people would get some additional merits to fit or anyway somehow reflect their activity count more than just their rank. What I'm saying is that more precision here would mean much more justice. My view is that as much justice as technically possible is badly needed in any big community which doesn't want to fall apart.

May be not 50% but a lot of them for sure. Cannot believe that it is so technically hard to apply initial merit points equal to activity points.

By definition half of the people would be closer to the upper threshold of a ranking activity range and half would be close to the lower range. You could obviously imagine also some being exactly in the middle Smiley Of course, the closer the people would be to the upper range, and therefore to the next rank, the more they would now feel the injustice.

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January 25, 2018, 09:55:22 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topsend

In less than a day we already sent more sMerits (11k+) than sources will gain in a month (~8k). Anyone knows how many sMerits have been distributed to existing members?

About 600k.

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January 25, 2018, 09:57:42 PM
Merited by ItsCrafty (6)
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Yes, read that carefully after clicking +merit on other members. I believe you get 1 smerit per post and can spend that then. Thanks.
You clearly have not read the OP, since you get 0.5 sMerit for every merit you receive.

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

The bigger point still remains open for me where I was just two points away from next level, however with this change I am by 150 merit points. Its all good though, will get there sooner or later.

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January 25, 2018, 10:05:18 PM
Merited by minifrij (1)
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About 600k.


That is a big airdrop. Grin

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January 25, 2018, 10:05:32 PM
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Good idea, at least! I was so tired of bitcointalk bad quality posts that I had almost stopped  enter here at all.
Good job theymos!

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January 25, 2018, 10:05:37 PM
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The distribution of Merits would have been fairer if it were based on the amount of activities. The distribution of merits thatmade according to the rank is not fair. A new Sr. member who have 241 activity point and the same rank who have 476 activity got the same amount of merit. Is it fair ?
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January 25, 2018, 10:07:57 PM
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The distribution of Merits would have been fairer if it were based on the amount of activities. The distribution of merits thatmade according to the rank is not fair. A new Sr. member who have 241 activity point and the same rank who have 476 activity got the same amount of merit. Is it fair ?
This life is unfair bro,you should accept what should rewarded for you otherwise this forum is not going to miss you.

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January 25, 2018, 10:14:28 PM
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I really dont understand this new system very well. It seems or appears to be creating a longer road for persons to be able to climb higher in rank.


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January 25, 2018, 10:17:35 PM
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still confusing in terms of its implementation, most likely having multiple accounts here will vote merit to their other accounts Huh


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January 25, 2018, 10:21:28 PM
Merited by JayJuanGee (1)
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I am two weeks away to be a Full Member, but now I'll have to collect 90 merit to deserve this rank. I'm a bit confused but I totally understand the system. I hope that now the forum will be with less shitposts.

Personally, I will not change my manner to participate here. I'll continue to post quality messages. If I get merit points : good ! If I don't get them, it's not a biiiiig deal, I'll wait. And I will give my sMerits without being manipulative. I hope that everyone will think like me. Let's be positive guys.  Grin

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January 25, 2018, 10:22:34 PM
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theymos a request:

please add the merit details in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=xxxxxx;sa=showPosts

great system for making us make sense. thank you

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January 25, 2018, 10:25:18 PM
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still confusing in terms of its implementation, most likely having multiple accounts here will vote merit to their other accounts Huh
They will get busted and banned.

theymos a request:

please add the merit details in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=xxxxxx;sa=showPosts

great system for making us make sense. thank you
Great idea, thought about it yesterday before we got the Merit link in profile.

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January 25, 2018, 10:25:22 PM
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theymos a request:

please add the merit details in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=xxxxxx;sa=showPosts

great system for making us make sense. thank you

It's in the main profile page already. For you, that link would be https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=479624 and you can see a clickable 'Merit' link.
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January 25, 2018, 10:27:28 PM
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I'm just trying to figure out the real effects of the new system, I'm not so sure if the results will be a real improvement of the posts (for me it will be, because I'll try from now to write better posts), but at least this will stop a little the invasion of meaningless posts written by illiterates.

However, I can't understand exactly the idea of a "finite number" of sMerits, out of the part that will be "mined" monthly.
This means that sMerit are a kind of currency, but in the same time if you don't use them, they will disappear...
I don't know, may be I'm not so smart but there is something that I can't grasp.
I'll keep reading your posts.

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January 25, 2018, 10:28:01 PM
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The distribution of Merits would have been fairer if it were based on the amount of activities. The distribution of merits thatmade according to the rank is not fair. A new Sr. member who have 241 activity point and the same rank who have 476 activity got the same amount of merit. Is it fair ?

I fully support you. I'm in the same situation as you are. And I think that this is unfair to users who have been going for a long time towards the goal
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January 25, 2018, 10:28:50 PM
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theymos a request:

please add the merit details in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=xxxxxx;sa=showPosts

great system for making us make sense. thank you

It's in the main profile page already. For you, that link would be https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=479624 and you can see a clickable 'Merit' link.

but he means showing the merit of every post after clicking 'Show the last posts of this person.' if I understand him correctly
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January 25, 2018, 10:29:05 PM
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Will be depleted in a couple of months at this pace... maybe 3-4 months as the novelty wears off.


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January 25, 2018, 10:30:01 PM
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theymos a request:

please add the merit details in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=xxxxxx;sa=showPosts

great system for making us make sense. thank you

It's in the main profile page already. For you, that link would be https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=479624 and you can see a clickable 'Merit' link.

not quite
when reading through all of someone's posts, it would be nice to see which if any have been merited

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January 25, 2018, 10:30:10 PM
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honestly, this makes me very sad, even if i understand why this merit system is implemented for.

i am like 3-4 weeks away from my sr.member rank and this fucks me really up Sad

i'm sad, angry and shocked together X_x". now i have to collect like 150 merits in a short time but how Oo", i dont think that people will freely start to like everything i post... since humans are not generous, infact, they can be very harsh to others, being anonymous on the internet...
I have to agree with this..For the most part people tend to lord any kind of power over those that have none.
I see a path to abuse here(merit for crypto perhaps?)
Seems it should/could have been rolled out in a more balanced way.

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January 25, 2018, 10:30:47 PM
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Without reading through literally everything, will our merit points be replenished at any point after we send them or can you only gain them from others for useful posts?

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