Merit & new rank requirements

[TryNinja]

Thats very interesting... I guess the most important question is.. How do we get merit if no one gives it to us ?

You don't. That's why you have to make HQ posts. This way, people will gladly give you a few merits as an incentive for you to keep posting good stuff.

If you can't get any by posting normally, you probably don't deserve them.

[1714805912]

1714805912

[1714805912]

1714805912

[1714805912]

1714805912

[1714805912]

1714805912

[coinlocket$]

New data

[mikeywith]

It's... A bit strange though...

Am I the only one using merit a bit like a curation system?
I mean there is no "top merited posts" section or whatever but in my opinion the use for merit is to put the focus on important messages that might have been missed while they're providing interesting and sensible informations. And I got the feeling people use it more like a "like" button.

Merit system is a perfect system which is used to reward only the most sophisticated and honour-worthy, long and informative posts.
 To be given 5 merits is a great privilege.
 To be given 10 merits is an honour which marks the rest of your life.
 To be given 50, you're a transcendent being (or Satoshi Nakamoto) and your posts cause ecstasy to the readers!

A perfect example of a god-like post with 50 merits: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2375142.msg24228465#msg24228465

50 merits for this this post is very fair. it is very informative to say the least.

[LogitechMouse]

Thats very interesting... I guess the most important question is.. How do we get merit if no one gives it to us ?

As they always say, post informative posts or threads that can help beginners out there and somebody will give you merit in exchange for it . Its not that hard to share information to others especially if they are very important to us newbies.

[tranthidung]

Updates for today. You all can enjoy my newest analysis.  

Thanks LoyceV for updates last two weeks.
I am busy recent days, so I did not update my topic last week.
I will do it hours later today.

Abstract (for truncated dataset)
50% of observed days (since 19/02/2018 to 02/12/2018) have its total daily merits below 626 (the median) or higher than 626.
Importantly, 50% of observed days have their total daily merits in the range from 521 to 774, which is the interquartile range that ranges from the 25th quartile (Q1) to the 75th quartile (Q3).
The minimum and maximum daily merits during the period are 347 and 2463, respectively.
Potential outliers are days that have total merits above 1154 or below 142.
About medians of merits over days of week, Monday is the highest with 674 merits distributed on Mondays in medians, and Friday is the lowest with the median of Friday merits is 542. There are nearly 24% difference between the medians of Friday and Monday.
And, Friday is the only day of week which has median lower than 600.

Updates:
1) Daily merits
1.1. Full dataset (from 24/1/2018 to 2/12/2018)
I dropped days after 2/12/2018 because those days belong to the 2018w49, which has not completed with LoyceV data source).
Now, lets' take a look at its basic statistics:
During the whole period since the beginning day of merit system, the daily merits
has its median is 643, which means that 50% of those observed days have their daily merits above 643, and 50% of them have their daily merits above 643.
- The interquartile range (from 25th to 75th quartile): is 530 - 858. It means that 50% of those observed days have daily merits in the range from 530 to 858. In addition, 25% of those days have daily merits below 530 (below the 25h quartile), while 25% of them have daily merits above 858 (above the 75th quartile).
- The mean +/- standard deviation: is 880 +/- 952. I don't want to use those statistics due to dramatical biases from outliers.

Extremely potential outliers are days have their total daily merits above 1350 or below 38. Detailed calculations presented below:
- Below: Q1 -1.5*IQR = 530-(1.5*328) = 38;
- or Above: Q3 + 1.5*IQR = 858+(1.5*328) = 1350.
- IQR = Q3 - Q1 = 858 - 530 = 328

From now on, I only presented analytical results for truncated dataset.
What is truncated dataset?
It is the dataset, after truncating / dropping all days before 19/02/2018, which are extremely outliers.

Code:

. list id date week month merit if merit > 1350 & merit != .

     +--------------------------------------------+
     |  id        date      week    month   merit |
     |--------------------------------------------|
  1. |   1   24jan2018    2018w4   2018m1   13018 |
  2. |   2   25jan2018    2018w4   2018m1    6761 |
  3. |   3   26jan2018    2018w4   2018m1    4493 |
  4. |   4   27jan2018    2018w4   2018m1    3489 |
  5. |   5   28jan2018    2018w4   2018m1    3188 |
     |--------------------------------------------|
  6. |   6   29jan2018    2018w5   2018m1    3799 |
  7. |   7   30jan2018    2018w5   2018m1    4192 |
  8. |   8   31jan2018    2018w5   2018m1    2820 |
  9. |   9   01feb2018    2018w5   2018m2    2545 |
 10. |  10   02feb2018    2018w5   2018m2    2568 |
     |--------------------------------------------|
 11. |  11   03feb2018    2018w5   2018m2    1867 |
 12. |  12   04feb2018    2018w5   2018m2    2167 |
 13. |  13   05feb2018    2018w6   2018m2    2077 |
 14. |  14   06feb2018    2018w6   2018m2    2308 |
 15. |  15   07feb2018    2018w6   2018m2    2141 |
     |--------------------------------------------|
 16. |  16   08feb2018    2018w6   2018m2    2141 |
 17. |  17   09feb2018    2018w6   2018m2    1448 |
 18. |  18   10feb2018    2018w6   2018m2    1747 |
 19. |  19   11feb2018    2018w6   2018m2    1442 |
 21. |  21   13feb2018    2018w7   2018m2    1579 |
     |--------------------------------------------|
 22. |  22   14feb2018    2018w7   2018m2    2513 |
 23. |  23   15feb2018    2018w7   2018m2    1991 |
 24. |  24   16feb2018    2018w7   2018m2    1411 |
 25. |  25   17feb2018    2018w7   2018m2    1608 |
 27. |  27   19feb2018    2018w8   2018m2    1403 |
     |--------------------------------------------|
 32. |  32   24feb2018    2018w8   2018m2    1409 |
 34. |  34   26feb2018    2018w9   2018m2    1382 |
 38. |  38   02mar2018    2018w9   2018m3    1696 |
 48. |  48   12mar2018   2018w11   2018m3    1354 |
236. | 236   16sep2018   2018w37   2018m9    2463 |
     |--------------------------------------------|
237. | 237   17sep2018   2018w38   2018m9    1862 |
     +--------------------------------------------+

As you can easily see that there are some days listed as extremely outliers after 19th Feb. 2018, but I left them in the dataset, not truncated them, in order to have full weeks in truncated dataset.

- Median: 626
- Interquartile range: 521 - 774
- Mean +/- standard deviation: 695 +/- 268
- Extremely potential outliers: above 1154 or below 142.
With IQR = 774 - 521 = 253
Q1 - 1.5*IQR = 521 - 1.5*253 = 141.5 ~ 142
Q3 + 1.5*IQR = 774 + 1.5*253 = 1153.5 ~ 1154.

Box plots
a) Box plot of daily merits since 19th February 2018 to 2nd December 2018.
Merit after presents statistics of the whole period from 19/2/2018 to 2/12/2018.
w26 presents statistics of the period that started on 19/2/2018 to the end of the week26 (on 01/7/2018)

b) Box plot of daily merit (full dataset). This one is only for reference.

Merits over days of week
Raw statistics

Code:

Summary for variables: merit
     by categories of: dofw 

     dofw |         N      mean        sd       p50       p25       p75       min       max
----------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Sunday |      41.0     715.7     360.5     603.0     476.0     829.0     412.0    2463.0
   Monday |      41.0     771.3     314.1     674.0     562.0     884.0     455.0    1862.0
  Tuesday |      41.0     715.0     246.1     632.0     580.0     767.0     383.0    1326.0
Wednesday |      41.0     723.5     227.1     652.0     562.0     761.0     435.0    1268.0
 Thursday |      41.0     687.0     220.7     644.0     528.0     774.0     376.0    1333.0
   Friday |      41.0     611.7     238.0     542.0     463.0     698.0     348.0    1696.0
 Saturday |      41.0     639.5     223.3     614.0     463.0     688.0     347.0    1409.0
----------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Total |     287.0     694.8     268.1     626.0     521.0     774.0     347.0    2463.0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What we got here?
The days of week that have lowest and highest means of totally merits are Friday and Wednesday, at 612 and 724 merits distributed, respectively.
It means there are (724 - 612) = 212 merit difference or the Wednesday have nearly 18% total merits higher than the Friday. Personally, it is a dramatical difference.

Code:

. di (724-612)*100/612
18.300654

Now, how about median difference?
The days of week that have lowest and highest medians of totally merits are Friday and Monday, at 542 and 674, respectively.
It means that there are (674-542) = 132 merit points diference between the Friday and Monday.
In other words, there are nearly 24% difference between the medians of Friday and Monday.

Code:

. di (674-542)*100/542
24.354244

Box plots:
a) Outliers displayed.

b) Outliers non-displayed.

Statistics of full dataset (just for reference)

Code:

Summary for variables: merit
     by categories of: dofw 

     dofw |         N      mean        sd       p50       p25       p75       min       max
----------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Sunday |      45.0     831.8     557.3     619.0     486.0     880.0     412.0    3188.0
   Monday |      44.0     882.5     582.4     681.0     575.5     945.0     455.0    3799.0
  Tuesday |      44.0     849.9     628.7     638.5     580.0     890.5     383.0    4192.0
Wednesday |      45.0    1114.5    1882.6     681.0     569.0     963.0     435.0   13018.0
 Thursday |      45.0     924.5     995.1     673.0     530.0     846.0     376.0    6761.0
   Friday |      45.0     777.7     695.0     554.0     475.0     774.0     348.0    4493.0
 Saturday |      45.0     776.2     542.4     627.0     506.0     778.0     347.0    3489.0
----------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Total |     313.0     879.7     951.8     643.0     530.0     858.0     347.0   13018.0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[sudeshkumar]

In new ranking system activities with merit is a commendable step to improve the quality of the posts and the forum but how to stop the abuse should also be taken in to consideration so that honest member should also feel comfortable.

[tranthidung]

You can make it.

So I still need 1 merit to become a Jr. member! 

There are two ways:
1) Buying a Copper Membership, which is not too expensive.
As a developer of Bitcoin Stash project, I strongly suggest you to spend a little BTC to buy a Copper membership.
Here is link for your interest: Paid memberships. Nearly 0.0021 BTC!
2) Building up a good project, then supporters/ investors of Bitcoin Stash will give you their sMerits later.
This way, will take a lot of time, and mainly depend upon the quality of your project.

[GadiGonsFula]

FUCK me god  i have  0 merit.


https://imgur.com/a/ICa3ykh

[Flagship11]

Ive been trying to rank-up to a Senior account, but no one seems to want to give me any merit.
If you take a look at my post history, I try to be as helpful and insightful as possible.
My main goal is to join in on a signature campaign to earn Bitcoin but no one wants to accept me with my low status.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

If you take a look at my post history, I try to be as helpful and insightful as possible.
My main goal is to join in on a signature campaign to earn Bitcoin but no one wants to accept me with my low status.

Dude, most of the posts I see of yours are applications for signature campaigns, which tells me you're on this forum for the wrong reasons and not because you want to be "helpful and insightful".  Nobody is giving you merits because you write shit like this:

Stop talking to yourself you jerkoff!

And the rest of what I see are just typical shitposts that aren't very helpful or insightful.  I've got no sympathy for you.  Members like you are why the merit system was implemented.

[asche]

2) Building up a good project

You don't need a project for smerit, just a good/helpful post.

Nothing really difficult.

[joseyphil82]

Nice one ,forum moderator can we have a demerit button on dashboard too? I think this forum deserves one

[RivAngE]

Nice one ,forum moderator can we have a demerit button on dashboard too? I think this forum deserves one

I see you're a bold one huh? ... so you ain't afraid of getting a mimus score?  

[asche]

Nice one ,forum moderator can we have a demerit button on dashboard too? I think this forum deserves one

Posts like this indeed deserve some "demerit" button.

However if you had any clue about the merit system you would understand it makes 0 sense.

[cbcbct]

Posts like this indeed deserve some "demerit" button.

However if you had any clue about the merit system you would understand it makes 0 sense.

Demerit button does not make sense for Newbies or Spambies.
Demerit will also potentially be abused like Trust system, hence They mostly has not had plan to implement it.

[HODL2090]

.
Demerit will also potentially be abused like Trust system, hence They mostly has not had plan to implement it.

Almost certainly, and when you consider that each merit awarded, generated half it's value in smerits which can be giving out. It would be quite challenging to draw up a demerit system.
Theymos of course can reverse a merit, and has once done that, when it was a clear case of hacked account. Aside that situation, merit awarding is not moderated.

[tranthidung]

You don't need a project for smerit, just a good/helpful post.

Nothing really difficult.

Ah, saying like this, what I meant is mainly because the author of the question is bstash.
He/ she is a developer of Bitcoin Stash project.
Therefore, building up a good Bitcoin Stash project is one of good ways for him/ her to earn merits.
This is why I recommended him / her with two approaches.

[Robofus]

I was interested in this merit system today for the first time (after losing my account, not very active, of  2013)
The problem that could be in this system is to post messages (even interesting) in categories that are not read by people already having merit (some altcoins for example, or local section  )

[TryNinja]

I was interested in this merit system today for the first time (after losing my account, not very active, of  2013)

How did you lose your account?

The problem that could be in this system is to post messages (even interesting) in categories that are not read by people already having merit (some altcoins for example, or local section  )

That's why there are merit sources for local sections.

[Gvanca24]

FUCK me god  i have  0 merit.

i think god is ready