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March 18, 2014, 11:27:50 PM
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What Chinese vendor are you talking about here?

Tons of vendors selling 1T Dragons and the like. They're all using A1 chips from Innosilicon.

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March 18, 2014, 11:36:08 PM
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and bet they are running in either low speed or very minimally OC'd to get units out the door. Means a lot of chips vs what was expected. Might hefty dual PSU's as well.
Last I saw, yesterday the Dragon is 'sold out' and now call-for sales.

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March 18, 2014, 11:40:54 PM
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As for BitMine.ch's own rigs using the chip: http://bitmine.ch/?p=5404
"delivery expected 2-3 weeks' and that's for their own dog food...

There*is* hope they will take care of their resellers/OEM's and in turn take care of us. Question is - when & how? Do what BFL is doing and offer a Free Imperial with your original order AND a free 600GH card as well by years end?
Highly doubt it... Frankly if I don't get my lil'520 I wants some Ant's as compensation instead.

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March 18, 2014, 11:53:55 PM
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What Chinese vendor are you talking about here?

Tons of vendors selling 1T Dragons and the like. They're all using A1 chips from Innosilicon.

Link?

 
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March 19, 2014, 12:01:06 AM
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What Chinese vendor are you talking about here?

Tons of vendors selling 1T Dragons and the like. They're all using A1 chips from Innosilicon.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485497.40 about Dragons is rather interesting...]

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March 19, 2014, 12:04:40 AM
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In that Dragon thread ^^ mention is made of Innosilicon having rights to also sell BitMine.ch's A1 chip. Now, unless one company is part ot the other - bull. We deal with Asian semiconductor design/production/packaging companies and that kind of agreement is unheard of - Asia or anywhere else in the world.

These folks claim to be selling TH unis as well. http://ntekcomputers.com/products/1ths-asic-bitcoin-miner-1000gh

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March 19, 2014, 12:08:24 AM
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@AMT_Miners:  Hey AMT any progress update??
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March 19, 2014, 12:11:14 AM
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These folks claim to be selling TH unis as well. http://ntekcomputers.com/products/1ths-asic-bitcoin-miner-1000gh

What the... appears to be a firm with its own design for coincraft a1 miners.... based in Alexandria, Virginia.

I'll need to pay them a visit!

Anyway, this is what they say:

"here is a 14 day processing/build time on for this item. As soon as the system is ready it will be shipped to you either via DHL or FedEx Express shipping 3-4 day service. If the system is ready sooner then we will get it to you as soon as possible. BE SURE to understand this process and be okay with waiting currently 14 days+shipping time to get this miner."

 
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These folks claim to be selling TH unis as well. http://ntekcomputers.com/products/1ths-asic-bitcoin-miner-1000gh

What the... appears to be a firm with its own design for coincraft a1 miners.... based in Alexandria, Virginia.

I'll need to pay them a visit!

Plese DO! I'd be a blessing to see if these mythical beasties exist and perform well. Chip cound is right, 40 chips @a comfortable 30GH eah = 1.2TH. Kept in eco-mode, 1TH in the nose. fits perfect with as-reported in the dev thread.

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March 19, 2014, 12:18:25 AM
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These folks claim to be selling TH unis as well. http://ntekcomputers.com/products/1ths-asic-bitcoin-miner-1000gh

What the... appears to be a firm with its own design for coincraft a1 miners.... based in Alexandria, Virginia.

I'll need to pay them a visit!

Plese DO! I'd be a blessing to see if these mythical beasties exist and perform well.

They are asking $8,500 for a system with ONLY 40 A1 chips:

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This is for one unit with forty 28nm ASIC chips. 40 ASIC chips per unit.

You can plug in many more to the same Raspberry Pi computer using a high speed USB hub as you grow your mining rig!

Self contained system, Comes with Raspberry Pi and screen to see hashing rate. Everything you need to mine right out of the box!


Too expensive!

Here is the board design:  



10 A1 chips per board.

 
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March 19, 2014, 12:22:42 AM
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gotta pay for all them slower than expected chips...

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March 19, 2014, 12:25:39 AM
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Notice BitMine.ch's splash page? One of the rotators is for "compensation' system... As in for late deliveries? oes that apply to reseller customers as well?
Inquiring minds want to know...

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Loking at BitMine's neww lineup, would be nice if my 520 system that AMT was strictly a reseller of, not a builder - gets upgraded to the 600GH BMch replaced that model with...
One can always dream...

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Loking at BitMine's neww lineup, would be nice if my 520 system that AMT was strictly a reseller of, not a builder - gets upgraded to the 600GH BMch replaced that model with...
One can always dream...

http://advancedminers.com/miner-protection-plan/

We want our clientele to prosper.

AMT knows that the SHA-256 coin mining space is somewhat volatile and coin miners can be somewhat concerned with hardware purchases these days. That’s why we guarantee enough hashing power to meet ROI and then some, when mining SHA-256 coin. If the networks increases to a point where your investment in our technology is no longer profitable, AMT will upgrade your Miner to the next level Miner absolutely free. We want our clientele to succeed and prosper together with.

Miner protection is automatically applied to all purchases from AMT and is valid from the date 09/26/2013. Although in the future, we may add this as an additional paid option during the purchase process. Purchases prior to this update are covered under the Miner protection plan automatically.

How it works:

AMT will receive your order, if the networks hash rate increases to the point where your miner can no longer meet ROI we will upgrade your miner to the next level of AMT miners.

Example:

If you purchase an AMT Steadfast 80ghs and the network hash rate increases to the point where your mining cannot meet ROI from the suggested shipment date for a six month time period, while mining SHA-256 coin, we will ship you a AMT 220ghs absolutely free.

It’s that simple.

Although, there maybe some clientele who would like to mine other SHA-256 coin because other SHA-256 coins are actually more profitable than Bitcoin in the moment. Those clients can opt to receive their miner as planned. If the networks increases to the point where the buyer cannot meet ROI, we will allow the buyer to decide if he/she would like to participate in the AMT miner protection program prior to their miner being shipped. When the buyer’s miner is ready to be shipped, we will give that buyer the option of shipping the original miner which they purchased, or to upgrade to the next AMT miner which will allow them to meet ROI and more. Although, the buyer will have to wait until that unit/model/miner is available for shipment of course. We will contact each buyer either by telephone or email with this option at the time of shipment.

If the network increases so much that the next level miner also can’t meet ROI, the product upgrade will continue to the next AMT product which is profitable. Therefore, no matter what happens, our clientele will be left a ROI either way. Plain and simple. We want our clientele to know that AMT cares about it’s clientele and AMT is a brand that consumers can rely on and trust.

ROI is defined as “a return on investment”.

 
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March 19, 2014, 12:59:45 AM
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^^ Admirable goal and words which will be very nice - if they actually do it. Also, ROI based on how long? 6mo? 1 year? 10? "No longer profitable" as defined how? Financially and possibly legally, a rather dangerous corner they painted themselves into there. with such an open-ended promise.

Now that BM.ch has rev-3 A1 units 'shipping in 2 weeks, April 2' (from their March 16th post) if BMch actually does ship then AMT will have no excuse left... Will be an intersting next couple weeks I guess.

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March 19, 2014, 01:04:59 AM
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^^ Admirable goal and words which will be very nice - if they actually do it. Also, ROI based on how long? 6mo? 1 year? 10?

Now that BM.ch has rev-3 A1 units 'shipping in 2 weeks, April 2' (from their March 16th post) if BMch actually does ship then AMT will have no excuse left... Will be an intersting next couple weeks I guess.

Bitmine and AMT will need to cut their prices to be able to compete with Bitmain.  In a month or so,  it is going to be pretty crowded in the hardware mining space.

AMT are losers for having taken so long to deliver product.

 
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March 19, 2014, 01:11:16 AM
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Tell me about it. I bought 2 Ant S1's (should be here on Friday) for ~ $675 each, not bad at all for 180-205GH/s!. Ic see BM.ch is selling add-on modules that are 200GH for a tad over $1k. Too high!.

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March 19, 2014, 01:15:55 AM
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Loking at BitMine's neww lineup, would be nice if my 520 system that AMT was strictly a reseller of, not a builder - gets upgraded to the 600GH BMch replaced that model with...
One can always dream...

http://advancedminers.com/miner-protection-plan/

We want our clientele to prosper.

AMT knows that the SHA-256 coin mining space is somewhat volatile and coin miners can be somewhat concerned with hardware purchases these days. That’s why we guarantee enough hashing power to meet ROI and then some, when mining SHA-256 coin. If the networks increases to a point where your investment in our technology is no longer profitable, AMT will upgrade your Miner to the next level Miner absolutely free. We want our clientele to succeed and prosper together with.

Miner protection is automatically applied to all purchases from AMT and is valid from the date 09/26/2013. Although in the future, we may add this as an additional paid option during the purchase process. Purchases prior to this update are covered under the Miner protection plan automatically.

How it works:

AMT will receive your order, if the networks hash rate increases to the point where your miner can no longer meet ROI we will upgrade your miner to the next level of AMT miners.

Example:

If you purchase an AMT Steadfast 80ghs and the network hash rate increases to the point where your mining cannot meet ROI from the suggested shipment date for a six month time period, while mining SHA-256 coin, we will ship you a AMT 220ghs absolutely free.

It’s that simple.

Although, there maybe some clientele who would like to mine other SHA-256 coin because other SHA-256 coins are actually more profitable than Bitcoin in the moment. Those clients can opt to receive their miner as planned. If the networks increases to the point where the buyer cannot meet ROI, we will allow the buyer to decide if he/she would like to participate in the AMT miner protection program prior to their miner being shipped. When the buyer’s miner is ready to be shipped, we will give that buyer the option of shipping the original miner which they purchased, or to upgrade to the next AMT miner which will allow them to meet ROI and more. Although, the buyer will have to wait until that unit/model/miner is available for shipment of course. We will contact each buyer either by telephone or email with this option at the time of shipment.

If the network increases so much that the next level miner also can’t meet ROI, the product upgrade will continue to the next AMT product which is profitable. Therefore, no matter what happens, our clientele will be left a ROI either way. Plain and simple. We want our clientele to know that AMT cares about it’s clientele and AMT is a brand that consumers can rely on and trust.

ROI is defined as “a return on investment”.

If the above was written in the US on a standard PC-type device, then Thats should equal That's.

The above quote was design for only one thing: To garner sales. To garner sales knowing damn well that their is no way AMT could keep their MPP promises. It is nothing put a pie-in-the-sky ruse.
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March 19, 2014, 01:28:06 AM
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depends on the font used. I use Open Office any many of their 'standard' looking fonts have subtle differences like that.
 
But yes, they are off to one helluva start on anything resembling their promise...

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March 19, 2014, 01:32:11 AM
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depends on the font used. I use Open Office any many of their 'standard' looking fonts have subtle differences like that.

But yes, they are off to one helluva start on anything resembling their promise...

Thanks, bud, for clarifying the font aspect. Makes sense.
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