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Author Topic: AMD Mem Tweak XL - Read/modify timings/pp/straps on the fly  (Read 58893 times)
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August 27, 2020, 03:15:41 AM
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Hello,  Cool

I got my RX580 4GB elpida doing 28,5 Mh/s and my hynix doing 29 Mh/S

This are my original straps, i doned some polaris one click patch strap,  2 years ago i think Roll Eyes

Any ideia what i should change here to got some boost?

https://ibb.co/ZYw8tNg
https://ibb.co/xC6jFh7
https://ibb.co/YbM1ST8

Gpus 1,2,3,4,5,7 are elpida
Gpus 6 is hynyx
Gpu 8 is rx580 8gb samsung
Gpu 9 is vega 56 samsung

On claymore -rxboost got me more 1mh/s on rx580 Smiley

Im seing too that my straps seems locked for rx580 in amdmemtweak, if i change it they reverse to original. On vega works Smiley

Thanks


change your ref to 30 that will give ya a boost

Thats what i have doned 1 week ago Smiley

But tanks anyway  Tongue


actually i find ref = 60 to be even better but higher than that is not stable
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August 27, 2020, 03:22:19 AM
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from what i can tell the refresh rate isnt part of the timing strap
and doesnt change when mem speed changes

where does this setting come from

bios?

driver?

registry?
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August 27, 2020, 03:28:22 AM
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Hello,  Cool

I got my RX580 4GB elpida doing 28,5 Mh/s and my hynix doing 29 Mh/S

This are my original straps, i doned some polaris one click patch strap,  2 years ago i think Roll Eyes

Any ideia what i should change here to got some boost?

https://ibb.co/ZYw8tNg
https://ibb.co/xC6jFh7
https://ibb.co/YbM1ST8

Gpus 1,2,3,4,5,7 are elpida
Gpus 6 is hynyx
Gpu 8 is rx580 8gb samsung
Gpu 9 is vega 56 samsung

On claymore -rxboost got me more 1mh/s on rx580 Smiley

Im seing too that my straps seems locked for rx580 in amdmemtweak, if i change it they reverse to original. On vega works Smiley

Thanks


RX straps arent supported yet in this tool
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August 27, 2020, 03:34:33 AM
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Hello,  Cool

I got my RX580 4GB elpida doing 28,5 Mh/s and my hynix doing 29 Mh/S

This are my original straps, i doned some polaris one click patch strap,  2 years ago i think Roll Eyes

Any ideia what i should change here to got some boost?

https://ibb.co/ZYw8tNg
https://ibb.co/xC6jFh7
https://ibb.co/YbM1ST8

Gpus 1,2,3,4,5,7 are elpida
Gpus 6 is hynyx
Gpu 8 is rx580 8gb samsung
Gpu 9 is vega 56 samsung

On claymore -rxboost got me more 1mh/s on rx580 Smiley

Im seing too that my straps seems locked for rx580 in amdmemtweak, if i change it they reverse to original. On vega works Smiley

Thanks


RX straps arent supported yet in this tool



GDDR5 Based AMD GPU's (ADL & MMIO)


btw

i got 29.7 on my 480/580 hynix cards @80watts i can get em to 32 but thats at 120w not worth it
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August 27, 2020, 12:48:20 PM
Last edit: August 27, 2020, 04:42:21 PM by bobalazs
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Am i able to set the timings that a bios editor strap button would do?
Because no matter what strap i set, 1500-1750 or whatever i dont get the hash rate that i would get with the bios.
I also loaded the bios and changed to the exact same settings, using default rom and im not getting the same hashrate. overclock etc have no effect.
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August 28, 2020, 01:04:54 AM
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Am i able to set the timings that a bios editor strap button would do?
Because no matter what strap i set, 1500-1750 or whatever i dont get the hash rate that i would get with the bios.
I also loaded the bios and changed to the exact same settings, using default rom and im not getting the same hashrate. overclock etc have no effect.
you got to make sure you change your timing level in the driver to auto or else if its set to 1 or 2 it will get overridden by that setting Smiley

also on the RX's strap settings dont work yet

and you have to clock you memory to the speed you want before making any changes or else the strap will override your change
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August 28, 2020, 01:15:55 AM
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hi, when I set a value from both gui and cmd, the value does not change, rather it returns to the default setting
you have to clock your memory first before making they change as it will get overridden by the straps or the timing level in the driver
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August 28, 2020, 11:23:23 AM
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you have to clock your memory first before making they change as it will get overridden by the straps or the timing level in the driver
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I did change the straps, but they dont make any difference. the clocks changing dont do anything either. on 1200@2000 the hashrate is the same. must be phoenixminer then, that holds back the hashrate or something else.
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August 29, 2020, 04:31:36 AM
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I did change the straps, but they dont make any difference. the clocks changing dont do anything either. on 1200@2000 the hashrate is the same. must be phoenixminer then, that holds back the hashrate or something else.

so you disabled p0 mem state and set p1/p2 @ 2000 and then make your timing changes? not strap changes as they are not supported in this tool on the RX gddr5 cards.

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August 29, 2020, 01:12:23 PM
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so you disabled p0 mem state and set p1/p2 @ 2000 and then make your timing changes? not strap changes as they are not supported in this tool on the RX gddr5 cards.


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I don't know what timing changes i'm supposed to change, isn't strap changes the same? Those change timing (too).
480 not supported, you say?
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August 29, 2020, 07:41:24 PM
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I don't know what timing changes i'm supposed to change, isn't strap changes the same? Those change timing (too).
480 not supported, you say?

my suggestion if you not sure what to change record you timing settings when mem is clocked to 2000

then use SRBPolaris V3.5 by d0kt0r to pimp your timings and make another recording


look at the differences and tweak from there
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August 31, 2020, 04:53:58 AM
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can i apply memory straps in this format ?
777000000000000022AA1C00315A6B3CA0550F15B68C1506006AE4007C041420CA8980A9020004C 01712262B612B3715
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September 23, 2020, 04:38:48 AM
Last edit: September 23, 2020, 05:35:46 AM by chinh.daongoc
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Please confirm if this tool can strap timing 1550mhz for 5700xt micron on the fly without bios mod? Thanks so much.
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September 23, 2020, 01:22:07 PM
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can i apply memory straps in this format ?
777000000000000022AA1C00315A6B3CA0550F15B68C1506006AE4007C041420CA8980A9020004C 01712262B612B3715

Yes

Please confirm if this tool can strap timing 1550mhz for 5700xt micron on the fly without bios mod? Thanks so much.

No, Navi strap injection is not supported and I have no interest in releasing that.


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September 28, 2020, 06:53:14 PM
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was looking to this 2 hours and still have no idea how to twaek these rx 480 8g samsung memory. Could be nice manual or put in read me file. People are greedy not sharing their set up.

Many number clk jlkdsjpo jdkldsfkl 12 135 those number doesnt mean nothing to regular user.

how to change what to change ??
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September 29, 2020, 12:20:19 AM
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what...people have been sharing that information a lot...those gpus are 4 years old...
I even made a website to answer basic questions like that many moons ago, I dont update it but you could go check; I suppose most links still work.
www.cryptominingtalk.com/flashing-bios/
even my SSL is out of date, it really has been a while since the last pump.  Good luck with your GPU, but really if you really have trouble people have uploaded a bunch of how to youtube videos on literally everything so go check those out.
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September 29, 2020, 01:04:37 AM
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My 5700xt's vram temp is very high, please help me to reduce vram voltage using this tool. Thanks
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September 29, 2020, 02:16:50 PM
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Hello guys, your help would be aprreciated  Smiley

I have few vegas64 reference samsung memory on me (gigabyte, powercolor, amd) and unfortunately have a hard time setting them to be as efficient as they could

First I tried amdmemtweak with hiveos but couldn't get the results I wanted not even close, still was about 250w from wall (in this post all wattage will be from wall), so I switched to windows 10 and started getting more interesting results as I went through almost every page in this thread (thanks for sharing your settings btw)

Bassicaly I'm aiming on low power consumption because my electricity isn't that cheap here - 0.16$/kwh

These are my best results

--CL 20 --RAS 30 --RCDRD 14 --RCDWR 6 --RC 44 --RP 12 --REF 11700 --TRFC 260
https://imgur.com/a/bPlLOdi

- I was getting 47.2 mhs, 175w draw, after 3 min it always drops to 46mhs but it's stable

I wanted to get lower with power consumption as I found out one guy in our local forum posted he is getting 42mhs with around 100w power draw on his vegas 56, so I flashed one of my vega64 to 56 bios and applied the exact setting as he did, the hashrate was exactly the same around 42mhs but i got only to 165w

Here you can see the settings
https://imgur.com/a/M81meD4


I can see some users getting very nice results with 50mhs+ and low power unfortunately the discussion ended
would someone please be able to help me out with some vega 64 timings and clocks and maybe ppt tables to get power usage below 200W at wall? been getting 48mh @200w from wall from each card, i imagine i can do better.

Settings in pic run ~168w/GPU including idle ATW (120v, 1600 plat PSU).  amdmemtweak params are --RAS 30 --RCDRD 14 --RCDWR 6 --RC 44 --RP 12 --REF 11700 --RRDL 4

https://i.imgur.com/gtxGhf7m.png

Thanks mate ill give them a run. im on windows though and dont think i can get voltages down that low without powerplay tables? think its capped at 900mv.

You can use ODNT to easily create a PPT similar to my clocks/voltages listed on the right.  Only difference is that you may need to use mem P2 set to 1028 (and lock out P3), in order to take advantage of the power savings of a reduced SOC clock.

Btw, if you really want to get crazy, there's been a lot of noise about flashing a 64 w/ a 56 BIOS (yes, the reverse of what most people have been doing) to get higher hashrates at lower power.  Not sure which models this actually works for tho, and haven't tried it myself... yet.

i'm getting 54Mh (samsung) and 50MH (hynix). 930W on the wall for 6 vegas (all flashed 56). 900W on the wall, plat PSU.

I will study more and want to play with core and mem control more but I dont understand it fully yet and always when I change it, it lowers hashrate and draws more power  Grin , I saw some users setting OD_SOCLK and also values for OD_SCLK, OD_RANGE under linux, I also downloaded ODNT but can't see these settings there also when I apply first amdmemtweak then odnt the miner just won't start (im using TRM) ...  Could somebody please share their low power cons setting for vega 56/64  or advice me which values shoud I try tweaking , thank you very much





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September 29, 2020, 05:52:04 PM
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Hello guys, your help would be aprreciated  Smiley

I have few vegas64 reference samsung memory on me (gigabyte, powercolor, amd) and unfortunately have a hard time setting them to be as efficient as they could

First I tried amdmemtweak with hiveos but couldn't get the results I wanted not even close, still was about 250w from wall (in this post all wattage will be from wall), so I switched to windows 10 and started getting more interesting results as I went through almost every page in this thread (thanks for sharing your settings btw)

Bassicaly I'm aiming on low power consumption because my electricity isn't that cheap here - 0.16$/kwh

These are my best results

--CL 20 --RAS 30 --RCDRD 14 --RCDWR 6 --RC 44 --RP 12 --REF 11700 --TRFC 260
https://imgur.com/a/bPlLOdi

- I was getting 47.2 mhs, 175w draw, after 3 min it always drops to 46mhs but it's stable

I wanted to get lower with power consumption as I found out one guy in our local forum posted he is getting 42mhs with around 100w power draw on his vegas 56, so I flashed one of my vega64 to 56 bios and applied the exact setting as he did, the hashrate was exactly the same around 42mhs but i got only to 165w

Here you can see the settings
https://imgur.com/a/M81meD4


I can see some users getting very nice results with 50mhs+ and low power unfortunately the discussion ended
would someone please be able to help me out with some vega 64 timings and clocks and maybe ppt tables to get power usage below 200W at wall? been getting 48mh @200w from wall from each card, i imagine i can do better.

Settings in pic run ~168w/GPU including idle ATW (120v, 1600 plat PSU).  amdmemtweak params are --RAS 30 --RCDRD 14 --RCDWR 6 --RC 44 --RP 12 --REF 11700 --RRDL 4



Thanks mate ill give them a run. im on windows though and dont think i can get voltages down that low without powerplay tables? think its capped at 900mv.

You can use ODNT to easily create a PPT similar to my clocks/voltages listed on the right.  Only difference is that you may need to use mem P2 set to 1028 (and lock out P3), in order to take advantage of the power savings of a reduced SOC clock.

Btw, if you really want to get crazy, there's been a lot of noise about flashing a 64 w/ a 56 BIOS (yes, the reverse of what most people have been doing) to get higher hashrates at lower power.  Not sure which models this actually works for tho, and haven't tried it myself... yet.

i'm getting 54Mh (samsung) and 50MH (hynix). 930W on the wall for 6 vegas (all flashed 56). 900W on the wall, plat PSU.

I will study more and want to play with core and mem control more but I dont understand it fully yet and always when I change it, it lowers hashrate and draws more power  Grin , I saw some users setting OD_SOCLK and also values for OD_SCLK, OD_RANGE under linux, I also downloaded ODNT but can't see these settings there also when I apply first amdmemtweak then odnt the miner just won't start (im using TRM) ...  Could somebody please share their low power cons setting for vega 56/64  or advice me which values shoud I try tweaking , thank you very much


Vega 64 Samsung
---------------
In short, try the following for a 50-51 MH/s setup:

1) Set clocks to core clk 1075 MHz, mem clk 1107 MHz, voltage at 850
   mV. Your card may need to clock down the mem clk to 1050-1080 MHz
   to be stable with no hw errs.

2) Use the following modded timings:

   --CL 20 --RAS 30 --RCDRD 14 --RCDWR 12 --RC 44 --RP 14 --RRDS 3
   --RRDL 6 --RTP 5 --FAW 12 --CWL 8 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 14
   --REF 17000 --RFC 249

3) Hopefully it runs stable and you should observe a hashrate around
   50.5-50.9 MH/s. If your GPU can't handle the timings, you need to
   relax them to less aggressive variants available in the AMD mem
   tweak thread on Bitcointalk, or come join the TRM discord for
   further suggestions.

4) For better efficiency (but lower hashrate), tune down your core clk
   and try to further lower voltage while remaining stable.

5) We reiterate: _blast_ your fans and monitor your HBM temperature.

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September 29, 2020, 06:06:31 PM
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what...people have been sharing that information a lot...those gpus are 4 years old...
I even made a website to answer basic questions like that many moons ago, I dont update it but you could go check; I suppose most links still work.
www.cryptominingtalk.com/flashing-bios/
even my SSL is out of date, it really has been a while since the last pump.  Good luck with your GPU, but really if you really have trouble people have uploaded a bunch of how to youtube videos on literally everything so go check those out.

Thanks for response. im not interested in flashing,it works nice but just wanted keep gpus stock bios and use some mem tweaks and strat phoenix miner. I have problems with claymore miner my rig just crashes if i use any strap. Windows install again headache, thats why just wanted to use simple strap on fly on use phoenix miner,
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