Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[eaLiTy]

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A very good display of batting and now bowling from Indian Women cricketers because I was not expecting performance like this from these ladies specially with pink ball and day/night match but these women done something special against the all odds.

I would personally like to see more Test matches from Woman and this match is a draw because weather played a major role in this match and it is sad that they are only playing one Test in this tour and more over Woman Test matches are 4 days long unlike the men's version, so there is no way we would see a result in this match as there is only one day left and i would be surprised if any of the team plays a second innings.

[UmerIdrees]

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A very good display of batting and now bowling from Indian Women cricketers because I was not expecting performance like this from these ladies specially with pink ball and day/night match but these women done something special against the all odds.

I would personally like to see more Test matches from Woman and this match is a draw because weather played a major role in this match and it is sad that they are only playing one Test in this tour and more over Woman Test matches are 4 days long unlike the men's version, so there is no way we would see a result in this match as there is only one day left and i would be surprised if any of the team plays a second innings.

Even if this match was of 5 days, the result would have been a draw because of the weather conditions and both teams have still an innings left.
Since its the only test being played in this series, it would have been better if the winner was decided. Women cricket teams need much exposure as the focus is only on the Men's cricket team.

[Sithara007]

Even if this match was of 5 days, the result would have been a draw because of the weather conditions and both teams have still an innings left.
Since its the only test being played in this series, it would have been better if the winner was decided. Women cricket teams need much exposure as the focus is only on the Men's cricket team.

If the men's test format is spread out over 5 days, then what is the point in reducing the women's matches to 4 days? As a female myself, I am offended by this. Don't they think that the female players can't last 5 days?

Anyway, the first target for Australia is to reach 228. That is the threshold to avoid follow on. If India could enforce follow on, then there is a chance that they will be able to bowl out Australia for the second time today itself. Australia on the other hand would try hard to avoid that. The 5th wicket partnership between Ellyse Perry and Ashleigh Gardner looked good so far. BTW, India needs to find a replacement for Jhulan Goswami. She's almost 39 and none of the other players seems to be able to replace her in the playing XI.

[savetheFORUM]

If the men's test format is spread out over 5 days, then what is the point in reducing the women's matches to 4 days? As a female myself, I am offended by this. Don't they think that the female players can't last 5 days?

Anyway, the first target for Australia is to reach 228. That is the threshold to avoid follow on. If India could enforce follow on, then there is a chance that they will be able to bowl out Australia for the second time today itself. Australia on the other hand would try hard to avoid that. The 5th wicket partnership between Ellyse Perry and Ashleigh Gardner looked good so far. BTW, India needs to find a replacement for Jhulan Goswami. She's almost 39 and none of the other players seems to be able to replace her in the playing XI.

We have many concerns which need some good talk, but sadly it's not happening authorities prefer profit and their own benefits so just because of this we have many rules which can changed for better results, but it's not happening. Main issue is they have no women as consultants and fix things by their own.

Right now India in safe zone they have 250 runs lead, but we have just 40 overs remaining in last day of match which is not helping for any cause so better give your batsmen some practice and feel happy that first match against Australia ends on good note for India as they were on top of game against a quality opponent.

[laurenB7742]

If the men's test format is spread out over 5 days, then what is the point in reducing the women's matches to 4 days? As a female myself, I am offended by this. Don't they think that the female players can't last 5 days?
Anyway, the first target for Australia is to reach 228. That is the threshold to avoid follow on. If India could enforce follow on, then there is a chance that they will be able to bowl out Australia for the second time today itself. Australia on the other hand would try hard to avoid that. The 5th wicket partnership between Ellyse Perry and Ashleigh Gardner looked good so far. BTW, India needs to find a replacement for Jhulan Goswami. She's almost 39 and none of the other players seems to be able to replace her in the playing XI.

We have many concerns which need some good talk, but sadly it's not happening authorities prefer profit and their own benefits so just because of this we have many rules which can changed for better results, but it's not happening. Main issue is they have no women as consultants and fix things by their own.
Right now India in safe zone they have 250 runs lead, but we have just 40 overs remaining in last day of match which is not helping for any cause so better give your batsmen some practice and feel happy that first match against Australia ends on good note for India as they were on top of game against a quality opponent.

Well, to be honest, men and women are biologically different. Women's cricket has a smaller ground. So it is justified to reduce the length by one day. And India will surely try to make Australia follow on, and maybe then try to bowl them out. But if that doesn't happen, this match might end up in a draw. Ellyse Perry is still on the crease so Australia still has hope.

[bryant.coleman]

Well, to be honest, men and women are biologically different. Women's cricket has a smaller ground. So it is justified to reduce the length by one day. And India will surely try to make Australia follow on, and maybe then try to bowl them out. But if that doesn't happen, this match might end up in a draw. Ellyse Perry is still on the crease so Australia still has hope.

The match will surely end in a draw, not because it was restricted for 4-days, but because of the overs lost to bad weather. Australia made 36/2 in the second innings. It was a near-impossible task for India to take 10 Australian wickets in 15 overs, and unsurprisingly they failed to do so. Indian pace attack, as usual heavily dependent on Jhulan Goswami (but this time got support from Pooja Vastrakar). Does anyone know whether they admit women's cricketers to the MRF pace academy? That place has produced a large number of quality pace bowlers (men, obviously).

[JSRAW]

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Does anyone know whether they admit women's cricketers to the MRF pace academy? That place has produced a large number of quality pace bowlers (men, obviously).

Interesting one.

I guess answer is no but situation could change in the near future or i would say will improve. So far i'm very impressed with the team in the Tests, in my memory they only played 2 tests in recent time but still this team showed enough character especially against England. I think WIPL is key to the Indian Women Cricket. Once they start the league, pacers are going to enter automatically, similar thing happened for Men's cricket. Batting and Spin department are okay IMO.

[GbitG]

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Does anyone know whether they admit women's cricketers to the MRF pace academy? That place has produced a large number of quality pace bowlers (men, obviously).

Interesting one.

I guess answer is no but situation could change in the near future or i would say will improve. So far i'm very impressed with the team in the Tests, in my memory they only played 2 tests in recent time but still this team showed enough character especially against England. I think WIPL is key to the Indian Women Cricket. Once they start the league, pacers are going to enter automatically, similar thing happened for Men's cricket. Batting and Spin department are okay IMO.

I was also following this test match and really surprised with Indian women attitude as these ladies was on top against experienced Aussie women even just playing third second or third test match. But here most Guilty party is BCCI as they can go ahead with few things which are in their own control, but they are not doing. Like you said, WIPL could be more beneficiary for women in India and can bring some good number of girls in this game which could be bringing some good quality and competition. And after this they can also create 5 or 6 women cricket teams for local 3 or 4 days matches which also bring more experience and awareness which can bring them top of rank in near future because currently these already done more than expectations.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Interesting one.

I guess answer is no but situation could change in the near future or i would say will improve. So far i'm very impressed with the team in the Tests, in my memory they only played 2 tests in recent time but still this team showed enough character especially against England. I think WIPL is key to the Indian Women Cricket. Once they start the league, pacers are going to enter automatically, similar thing happened for Men's cricket. Batting and Spin department are okay IMO.

Only a few grounds (such as Mohali in Punjab and Dharamshala in Himachal) in India are supportive of pace bowling. So the first option for the women's cricketers in domestic teams is spin bowling. The coaches are also selected from ex-players and they follow the same line of thinking. Once the IPL is started (I don't know when), the younger players will get to watch quality pace bowlers and they will also try to replicate them. Until then pace bowling will remain as the weak link of Indian women's squad.

[Emitdama]

Even if this match was of 5 days, the result would have been a draw because of the weather conditions and both teams have still an innings left.
Since its the only test being played in this series, it would have been better if the winner was decided. Women cricket teams need much exposure as the focus is only on the Men's cricket team.

Very strange situation as just one test and having no play just because of weather what a waste of money and time because they need some better strategy for this it's not going to help anyone. Recently we have some good voices about women cricket from Australia, but for their own women team they are not doing any enough things because these are not profitable as men.

If we check overall in sports we have very few teams events for women around the world because financially these events are not profitable so no country taking any serious intention for these. USA is one of the biggest country and have much better technology and things, but they are also not doing for this as they need to do for women.

[bryant.coleman]

Very strange situation as just one test and having no play just because of weather what a waste of money and time because they need some better strategy for this it's not going to help anyone. Recently we have some good voices about women cricket from Australia, but for their own women team they are not doing any enough things because these are not profitable as men.

If we check overall in sports we have very few teams events for women around the world because financially these events are not profitable so no country taking any serious intention for these. USA is one of the biggest country and have much better technology and things, but they are also not doing for this as they need to do for women.

It will be wrong to say that women's events doesn't bring the revenue. The WBBL has brought in good amount of profits for Cricket Australia, and the women's Hundred has done the same for ECB. If the BCCI comes up with WIPL in the future, then I am 100% sure that they will get good profits as well. The main issue in my opinion is that the cricket boards are dominated by men in top positions. Female members are there just to make up the numbers and don't hold any real power. So they can afford to ignore women's cricket.

[Emitdama]

Very strange situation as just one test and having no play just because of weather what a waste of money and time because they need some better strategy for this it's not going to help anyone. Recently we have some good voices about women cricket from Australia, but for their own women team they are not doing any enough things because these are not profitable as men.

If we check overall in sports we have very few teams events for women around the world because financially these events are not profitable so no country taking any serious intention for these. USA is one of the biggest country and have much better technology and things, but they are also not doing for this as they need to do for women.

It will be wrong to say that women's events doesn't bring the revenue. The WBBL has brought in good amount of profits for Cricket Australia, and the women's Hundred has done the same for ECB. If the BCCI comes up with WIPL in the future, then I am 100% sure that they will get good profits as well. The main issue in my opinion is that the cricket boards are dominated by men in top positions. Female members are there just to make up the numbers and don't hold any real power. So they can afford to ignore women's cricket.

I am also talking in same way that we have sports organizations controlled by men, and they are not giving commitments as they have to if WIPL came into India then surely big revenue some better quality better finances going to help women, and they will feel more comfortably and able to give much better result than expected from them.

But, main issue is who will do this and bring changes because men controlled organizations never allowed to give power to women in our countries which is really setback just few days back we have first Female President of MCC after Sangakara is big change from England but here some things needed but not happening.

[7788bitcoin]

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Very strange situation as just one test and having no play just because of weather what a waste of money and time because they need some better ~
I am also talking in same way that we have sports organizations controlled by men, and they are not giving commitments as they have to if WIPL came into India then surely big revenue some better quality better finances going to help women, and they will feel more comfortably and able to give much better result than expected from them.

The problem is that you are not able to attract the audience and if they can attract an audience then they will get the necessary advertisement and endorsement, i do watch the matches but they are usually conducted in mostly empty stadiums.

But, main issue is who will do this and bring changes because men controlled organizations never allowed to give power to women in our countries which is really setback just few days back we have first Female President of MCC after Sangakara is big change from England but here some things needed but not happening.

You cannot blame everything on men controlled organizations. It looks like you are a feminist who argue with everything without much substance.

[bitgov]

It will be wrong to say that women's events doesn't bring the revenue. The WBBL has brought in good amount of profits for Cricket Australia, and the women's Hundred has done the same for ECB. If the BCCI comes up with WIPL in the future, then I am 100% sure that they will get good profits as well. The main issue in my opinion is that the cricket boards are dominated by men in top positions. Female members are there just to make up the numbers and don't hold any real power. So they can afford to ignore women's cricket.

Can you come up with stats that how much profitable WBBL is for CA and how much ECB earned from The Hundred Women's Competition 2021? I would love to see the stats.
Woman's are doing very good when it comes to Tennis, Athletics (swimming, racing, table tennis), Basketball etc. But unfortunatly we were not able to see too much spark from woman's in cricket. Reasons may vary but in my opinion there are not much players not audience that are interested Woman's cricket.

[jostorres]

to be honest, men and women are biologically different. Women's cricket has a smaller ground. So it is justified to reduce the length by one day. And India will surely try to make Australia follow on, and maybe then try to bowl them out. But if that doesn't happen, this match might end up in a draw. Ellyse Perry is still on the crease so Australia still has hope.

Your few points are valid but still ICC and relative boards can do some changes for better results from this format because match is already ended in draw if we have 40 to 50 more overs than surely there could be some better result or interesting end for this match, but already this was four days and lost first all day just because of rain have not good impact of cricket fans. Australia, England, New Zealand and South Africa women's playing this format for very long time but their relative countries never done any interesting changes for better exposure which is really poor from them.

[sovie]

I was also following this test match and really surprised with Indian women attitude as these ladies was on top against experienced Aussie women even just playing third second or third test match. But here most Guilty party is BCCI as they can go ahead with few things which are in their own control, but they are not doing. Like you said, WIPL could be more beneficiary for women in India and can bring some good number of girls in this game which could be bringing some good quality and competition. And after this they can also create 5 or 6 women cricket teams for local 3 or 4 days matches which also bring more experience and awareness which can bring them top of rank in near future because currently these already done more than expectations.

Honestly cricket was not a multi billion dollar industry before the arrival of men IPL. Nobody thought cricket has so much business underneath it. Likewise if BCCI introduce woman IPL, who knows it has similar kind of business underneath it. But its responsibility of other big boards also to do something to bring women cricket in front. Right now there isn't much in Woman cricket.

[wiss19]

I was also following this test match and really surprised with Indian women attitude as these ladies was on top against experienced Aussie women even just playing third second or third test match. But here most Guilty party is BCCI as they can go ahead with few things which are in their own control, but they are not doing. Like you said, WIPL could be more beneficiary for women in India and can bring some good number of girls in this game which could be bringing some good quality and competition. And after this they can also create 5 or 6 women cricket teams for local 3 or 4 days matches which also bring more experience and awareness which can bring them top of rank in near future because currently these already done more than expectations.

Honestly cricket was not a multi billion dollar industry before the arrival of men IPL. Nobody thought cricket has so much business underneath it. Likewise if BCCI introduce woman IPL, who knows it has similar kind of business underneath it. But its responsibility of other big boards also to do something to bring women cricket in front. Right now there isn't much in Woman cricket.

There is no doubt this IPL has a bit of impact on cricket, but sadly it's going in negative way just because of few board's dirty politics if they want then surely this can move into positive and bring more revenues and attraction from world. Sadly, personal ego is bigger than this game and all other things which bring down this game's spirit very badly.

But, if we can remember there is fall after every rise right now few boards doing these things just in name of big 3 or what but once they will be down on earth then no one going to give them any support because they already commit few worst things for their own future. Right now still many options available for better future of this game which all can open for the spirit of cricket and for millions fans of this game.

[ene1980]

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There is no doubt this IPL has a bit of impact on cricket, but sadly it's going in negative way just because of few board's dirty politics if they want then surely this can move into positive and bring more revenues and attraction from world. Sadly, personal ego is bigger than this game and all other things which bring down this game's spirit very badly.

Can you explain what you are talking about here. The personal ego of whom and what is bringing down the spirit of the game. Everyone has their politics and i am not going to dug deep on that as i am not interested in that but the general capitalist mentality is that anyone bringing the most revenue should get the power and the major share and i do not complain against that either.

If i coin this in Bitcoin terms, can you complain about the whales who are investing huge amounts and getting the biggest profit and they can do that simply because they have the resources to raise the capital.

But, if we can remember there is fall after every rise right now few boards doing these things just in name of big 3 or what but once they will be down on earth then no one going to give them any support because they already commit few worst things for their own future. Right now still many options available for better future of this game which all can open for the spirit of cricket and for millions fans of this game.

Lets take this situation, how do you think 3 boards are more powerful than the rest of the boards. Everyone has equal opportunity and then why these 3 boards have all the power and none of the other boards cannot complain about that or strike against that. If you know the answer, you solved your confusion  .

[Sithara007]

Can you come up with stats that how much profitable WBBL is for CA and how much ECB earned from The Hundred Women's Competition 2021? I would love to see the stats.
Woman's are doing very good when it comes to Tennis, Athletics (swimming, racing, table tennis), Basketball etc. But unfortunatly we were not able to see too much spark from woman's in cricket. Reasons may vary but in my opinion there are not much players not audience that are interested Woman's cricket.

Don't know about the audience in India and the remainder of the subcontinent, but women's franchise leagues have been very popular in Australia and England.

https://www.cricketworld.com/records-broken-in-successful-wbbl-04-season/54703.htm
https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/the-hundred-tv-figures-viewership-sky-bbc-ecb-revenue-ticket-sales/
https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/the-hundred-2021-cricket-female-tv-audiences-ratings-sky-bbc-t20/

The TV audience for the women's matches in Australia and England were around 60% of the comparable number for men's matches. But the important thing is that contract amounts were much lower than the men's game and therefore these leagues (WBBL and Women's Hundred) were more profitable for CA and ECB respectively, when compared to BBL and Hundred.

[CryptoCraze11]

Can you come up with stats that how much profitable WBBL is for CA and how much ECB earned from The Hundred Women's Competition 2021? I would love to see the stats.
Woman's are doing very good when it comes to Tennis, Athletics (swimming, racing, table tennis), Basketball etc. But unfortunatly we were not able to see too much spark from woman's in cricket. Reasons may vary but in my opinion there are not much players not audience that are interested Woman's cricket.

Don't know about the audience in India and the remainder of the subcontinent, but women's franchise leagues have been very popular in Australia and England.

https://www.cricketworld.com/records-broken-in-successful-wbbl-04-season/54703.htm
https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/the-hundred-tv-figures-viewership-sky-bbc-ecb-revenue-ticket-sales/
https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/the-hundred-2021-cricket-female-tv-audiences-ratings-sky-bbc-t20/

The TV audience for the women's matches in Australia and England were around 60% of the comparable number for men's matches. But the important thing is that contract amounts were much lower than the men's game and therefore these leagues (WBBL and Women's Hundred) were more profitable for CA and ECB respectively, when compared to BBL and Hundred.

Thanks for sharing the info. Thats a positive sign for future of woman cricket team. If Aus and England can do that then other big boards like India, CNZ, SA can also do that. The man and woman cricket should be played side by side so that rest of the world also gets an idea that woman are in cricket too.