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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
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July 23, 2021, 05:05:48 PM
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Time to move on for tomorrow's games.

At 2:00 PM, we have Meralco Bolts against ROS  (+4.5)
I'm betting on the Rain or shine here, though Meralco had already won twice in a row but I think ROS is also a dangerous team due to their good defence.
betting on the spread and moneyline.

At 4:35 PM, we have Alaska Aces vs Phoenix LPG. (+3.5)

I'm wondering why Phoenix is the underdog here.


This one I'm not sure too, maybe I'll watch the game first and just put my bet through live betting.
If Wright is out, then no way I will bet on the Phoenix.

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July 23, 2021, 05:39:28 PM
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Finally, Ray Parks issue is over, he has a go signal from TNT to play with Japan's B league.

PBA not standing in Parks way to Japan after TNT go-signal

I'm thinking, how about Kiefer Ravena? We have a lot of Filipino players playing with Japan's league for a better salary, hopefully, Kiefer will not feel like a prisoner and the PBA is just hindering his dream.

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July 23, 2021, 05:40:53 PM
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This one I'm not sure too, maybe I'll watch the game first and just put my bet through live betting.
If Wright is out, then no way I will bet on the Phoenix.

Good idea, as it can just turned things out or something like a trap from the bookies, knowing that Phoenix is not that bad compared to Aces, though chances that injuries from good role players not sure yet as there's no info.

If I have some spare, I'll be great to place some for Phoenix handicap, might still in the adjustment but they are unpredictable once the players start to jive in.

Let's see how it goes , Good luck!

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July 23, 2021, 05:59:23 PM
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Time to move on for tomorrow's games.

At 2:00 PM, we have Meralco Bolts against ROS  (+4.5)
I'm betting on the Rain or shine here, though Meralco had already won twice in a row but I think ROS is also a dangerous team due to their good defence.
betting on the spread and moneyline.
Thanks for your advice, I think I will follow it as rain or shine is not a bad team and 4.5 handicap is so high for a good team.
Rain or shine won the opening day by beating the NLEX, so I will not doubt they can win against the Meralco Bolts.

At 4:35 PM, we have Alaska Aces vs Phoenix LPG. (+3.5)

I'm wondering why Phoenix is the underdog here.


This one I'm not sure too, maybe I'll watch the game first and just put my bet through live betting.
If Wright is out, then no way I will bet on the Phoenix.

There's no news about Phoenix, maybe it's just th right line.
I search some news here https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba?ref=nav_link.. but I could not find anything related.

If I have some spare, I'll be great to place some for Phoenix handicap, might still in the adjustment but they are unpredictable once the players start to jive in.


I'll consider this too.
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July 23, 2021, 07:18:11 PM
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I'm thinking, how about Kiefer Ravena? We have a lot of Filipino players playing with Japan's league for a better salary, hopefully, Kiefer will not feel like a prisoner and the PBA is just hindering his dream.

Kiefer Ravena is under several contracts and there are things that are not settled properly then out of nowhere he was signed overseas. It's unprofessional.

PBA didn't get in his way. He just needs to finish his business in the PBA and the floor is always open for him to play overseas. If Ravena is able to comply with all things that need should be done before getting a Go Signal and PBA get in his way, that's the time we can conclude that PBA is sh*t regarding those matters.

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July 23, 2021, 08:12:51 PM
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I'm thinking, how about Kiefer Ravena? We have a lot of Filipino players playing with Japan's league for a better salary, hopefully, Kiefer will not feel like a prisoner and the PBA is just hindering his dream.

Kiefer Ravena is under several contracts and there are things that are not settled properly then out of nowhere he was signed overseas. It's unprofessional.

PBA didn't get in his way. He just needs to finish his business in the PBA and the floor is always open for him to play overseas. If Ravena is able to comply with all things that need should be done before getting a Go Signal and PBA get in his way, that's the time we can conclude that PBA is sh*t regarding those matters.

I agree to that! Kiefer is under contract while Parks already been let go by his mother team there's no obligation for him to settle that's why he can go and signed the contract that being offered by Japan's league franchise.

As long as Kiefer complete or settled those issues he's free to go, though for now we seen him playing for his mother team and he's still
working hard for the team.

If after this contract inside PBA and the team outside still interested to sign him, he can go and fly without any problem.

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July 23, 2021, 10:20:15 PM
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Time to move on for tomorrow's games.

At 2:00 PM, we have Meralco Bolts against ROS  (+4.5)
At 4:35 PM, we have Alaska Aces vs Phoenix LPG. (+3.5)

I'm wondering why Phoenix is the underdog here.

Both ROS and Phoenix are underdogs in these matches but IMO, either one of them or both of them could upset their opponents.

Though ROS doesn't have its usual go-to guy but with their young guns, they could defeat the Bolts since everything now in the PBA is unstable.

Phoenix is put in the underdog status may be because of their last game where they were blown out by NorthPort if my memory serves me right.

Therefore my bets for today:

ROS ML @2.57
Phoenix ML @2.15

No mistakes this time as I double-check my bets, but not going against SMB from now on.  Grin

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July 23, 2021, 11:47:03 PM
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I'm wondering why Phoenix is the underdog here.

Maybe based on recent performance. They lose by 36 points, one of the worst performances in the league, in their last game against a team that is considered on the same level. Alaska on the other hand, only loses 2 points against a top team, Magnolia on which also beaten the Phoenix on the 2nd day of the PBA.

If only Abueva is there, which is now traded to Magnolia, maybe they will be the favorites even in a losing streak.
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July 24, 2021, 05:24:52 AM
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Finally, Ray Parks issue is over, he has a go signal from TNT to play with Japan's B league.

PBA not standing in Parks way to Japan after TNT go-signal

I'm thinking, how about Kiefer Ravena? We have a lot of Filipino players playing with Japan's league for a better salary, hopefully, Kiefer will not feel like a prisoner and the PBA is just hindering his dream.
Well, just hours ago after you posted this Commissioner Marcial and the owner of NLEX Road Warriors decided to let Ravena play into the Shiga Lakestars in the Japan B-League. This is the caption in one of the reliable sources on Facebook.

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Marcial: PBA has also allowed Ray Parks Jr to play in the Japan B.League.

This is my theory but I think that the management didn't see Ravena's willingness to play into the PBA and he really wants to play outside PH (particularly in Japan) that is why they decided to let him play. Its only for one season but I think giving him some experience to play in other league outside our country would be beneficial for him and our league as a whole. Now that Ravena will be playing on Japan, I wonder if the Japan B-League decided to sign Ray Parks too since he isn't have any contract now Cheesy.

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July 24, 2021, 05:59:46 AM
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Kiefer Ravena gets PBA nod to play in Japan B.League
Ravena has been allowed to play with Lakestars for a year and then return to the PBA and suit up for NLEX anew.


What an offer. Allowed to play overseas, being paid there, then still have a team in the PBA once he returns. However, that will limit Ravena to continue playing overseas after a year. If the goal is to really leave PBA then switch careers abroad, it's best for me to just finish everything in PBA so he can continue with the Lakestar for more years. But prior to that, the contract should be multi-season so the next following years are secured.

Anyways, the deal was now finalized and that is, Ravena was only allowed to play for 1 season with the Lakestars. This just proved that everything can be settled properly if there are official negotiations.

I'm just wondering when this will be starting? After the current PBA All-Filipino Cup?

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Kiefer Ravena gets PBA nod to play in Japan B.League
Ravena has been allowed to play with Lakestars for a year and then return to the PBA and suit up for NLEX anew.


What an offer. Allowed to play overseas, being paid there, then still have a team in the PBA once he returns. However, that will limit Ravena to continue playing overseas after a year. If the goal is to really leave PBA then switch careers abroad, it's best for me to just finish everything in PBA so he can continue with the Lakestar for more years. But prior to that, the contract should be multi-season so the next following years are secured.

Anyways, the deal was now finalized and that is, Ravena was only allowed to play for 1 season with the Lakestars. This just proved that everything can be settled properly if there are official negotiations.

I'm just wondering when this will be starting? After the current PBA All-Filipino Cup?

Cool deal for Ravena, as time passed by many Japan teams will seek for more players overseas,
in case he won't be suited to the team that he will play then he still got the NLEX to catch him and let him play again inside PBA.

What I'm curious with is the 1 season deal which you already explained that it will limits him to extend his stay, what if the team see he's good future.
the same thing that happened with his younger brother?

Should he give up his PBA career and take all the responsibilities if ever PBA / NLEX ask for him to comeback?
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Time to move on for tomorrow's games.

At 2:00 PM, we have Meralco Bolts against ROS  (+4.5)
At 4:35 PM, we have Alaska Aces vs Phoenix LPG. (+3.5)

I'm wondering why Phoenix is the underdog here.

Both ROS and Phoenix are underdogs in these matches but IMO, either one of them or both of them could upset their opponents.

Though ROS doesn't have its usual go-to guy but with their young guns, they could defeat the Bolts since everything now in the PBA is unstable.

Phoenix is put in the underdog status may be because of their last game where they were blown out by NorthPort if my memory serves me right.

Therefore my bets for today:

ROS ML @2.57
Phoenix ML @2.15

No mistakes this time as I double-check my bets, but not going against SMB from now on.  Grin



First game is over and the underdog Rain or Shine did shine on that ballgame. Young guns Nambatac and Mocon towed them into their consecutive wins with the help of veteran Belga. Even if I will lose my second bet, I still gain some profit as the odds for the first game is 2.57.

Halftime at the moment between Phoenix and Alaska with Phoenix leading by 11 points. Seems another upset is looming in the horizon huh.
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July 24, 2021, 11:34:00 AM
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Time to move on for tomorrow's games.

At 2:00 PM, we have Meralco Bolts against ROS  (+4.5)
At 4:35 PM, we have Alaska Aces vs Phoenix LPG. (+3.5)

I'm wondering why Phoenix is the underdog here.

Both ROS and Phoenix are underdogs in these matches but IMO, either one of them or both of them could upset their opponents.

Though ROS doesn't have its usual go-to guy but with their young guns, they could defeat the Bolts since everything now in the PBA is unstable.

Phoenix is put in the underdog status may be because of their last game where they were blown out by NorthPort if my memory serves me right.

Therefore my bets for today:

ROS ML @2.57
Phoenix ML @2.15

No mistakes this time as I double-check my bets, but not going against SMB from now on.  Grin



First game is over and the underdog Rain or Shine did shine on that ballgame. Young guns Nambatac and Mocon towed them into their consecutive wins with the help of veteran Belga. Even if I will lose my second bet, I still gain some profit as the odds for the first game is 2.57.

Halftime at the moment between Phoenix and Alaska with Phoenix leading by 11 points. Seems another upset is looming in the horizon huh.

Both underdog teams won tonight, that's why Phoenix was the underdog against Alaska because Wright did not play, but it does not make the team weak, instead, they bounce back strong from their first game loss in the conference. Vic Manuel was the best player of the game with 26 points and 12 rebounds, what a game by him, and Phoenix was not wrong of picking him.

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July 24, 2021, 12:58:08 PM
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Vic Manuel was the best player of the game with 26 points and 12 rebounds, what a game by him, and Phoenix was not wrong of picking him.


Phoenix now has a big man that they can rely on, a veteran Vic Manuel continues to impress the fan, whatever team he is playing, he also play an important role for the success of the team. In this game, they don't have Wright, but they still win, so I think this team really has a chance to go against the best in the PBA now,  Phoenix has talented bigs like Manuel, Chua, and Perkins.

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July 24, 2021, 01:33:20 PM
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Halftime at the moment between Phoenix and Alaska with Phoenix leading by 11 points. Seems another upset is looming in the horizon huh.

And Phoenix got the win! You have won your ML bet. No Wright, No problem as Vic Manuel leads the team.

Not just him but his teammates also step up on that game. Vic Manuel is playing like he's not a veteran. Phoenix needs that kind of player as having a dominant forward is one of the best assets of any team in the league.

Wright's ankle sprain is projected to feel better in a week or two.

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Halftime at the moment between Phoenix and Alaska with Phoenix leading by 11 points. Seems another upset is looming in the horizon huh.

And Phoenix got the win! You have won your ML bet. No Wright, No problem as Vic Manuel leads the team.

Not just him but his teammates also step up on that game. Vic Manuel is playing like he's not a veteran. Phoenix needs that kind of player as having a dominant forward is one of the best assets of any team in the league.

Wright's ankle sprain is projected to feel better in a week or two.

We might see more underdog odds for Phoenix while Wright is still out due to injury, I liked it, I mean it's an opportunity for me knowing that even without Wright, this team can still win and everyone is contributing.

we have other players also who scored double digit, https://pba.ph/recap?match=1902577

Perkins has 12 points, Melecio 13 ( must be a rookie), and Jazul got 19.

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July 24, 2021, 02:47:05 PM
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Halftime at the moment between Phoenix and Alaska with Phoenix leading by 11 points. Seems another upset is looming in the horizon huh.

And Phoenix got the win! You have won your ML bet. No Wright, No problem as Vic Manuel leads the team.

Not just him but his teammates also step up on that game. Vic Manuel is playing like he's not a veteran. Phoenix needs that kind of player as having a dominant forward is one of the best assets of any team in the league.

Wright's ankle sprain is projected to feel better in a week or two.

We might see more underdog odds for Phoenix while Wright is still out due to injury, I liked it, I mean it's an opportunity for me knowing that even without Wright, this team can still win and everyone is contributing.

we have other players also who scored double digit, https://pba.ph/recap?match=1902577

Perkins has 12 points, Melecio 13 ( must be a rookie), and Jazul got 19.

Yes, he is just a rookie but he is already showing up.

19th overall in draft, Aljun Melecio certain he made the right decision to skip final year

Well, consistency is still very important, if he can contribute double digit points consistently to the team, then he will be a big help for the Phoenix.

I think he can be a good point guard, and we usually see the rookie's talent once they are called to step up because their best player is not available.



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July 24, 2021, 04:21:19 PM
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Halftime at the moment between Phoenix and Alaska with Phoenix leading by 11 points. Seems another upset is looming in the horizon huh.

And Phoenix got the win! You have won your ML bet. No Wright, No problem as Vic Manuel leads the team.

Not just him but his teammates also step up on that game. Vic Manuel is playing like he's not a veteran. Phoenix needs that kind of player as having a dominant forward is one of the best assets of any team in the league.

Wright's ankle sprain is projected to feel better in a week or two.

Just like how I project it, sad to say but I don't have spare coins to bet with Phoenix as they won the game and place a check now with their winning standing.

Vic Manuel and RJ Jazul both came strong showing no mercy with their former team, might me more interesting if Calvin still there playing with this two stars who leads alaska way back.

Moving on, with Wright injury players needs to step up not just one but if all can work together they have a better chance to win.

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July 24, 2021, 08:19:34 PM
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Halftime at the moment between Phoenix and Alaska with Phoenix leading by 11 points. Seems another upset is looming in the horizon huh.

And Phoenix got the win! You have won your ML bet. No Wright, No problem as Vic Manuel leads the team.

Not just him but his teammates also step up on that game. Vic Manuel is playing like he's not a veteran. Phoenix needs that kind of player as having a dominant forward is one of the best assets of any team in the league.

Wright's ankle sprain is projected to feel better in a week or two.

Just like how I project it, sad to say but I don't have spare coins to bet with Phoenix as they won the game and place a check now with their winning standing.

Vic Manuel and RJ Jazul both came strong showing no mercy with their former team, might me more interesting if Calvin still there playing with this two stars who leads alaska way back.

Moving on, with Wright injury players needs to step up not just one but if all can work together they have a better chance to win.

It's not possible that Abueva would play with Vic Manuel because the Phoenix would be full of bigs and will not have good guards, let's just say what the management did is to make this team better and we can confirm that once the conference is over. On the other hand, Calvin is also doing great in his current team, so both of Manuel and Abueva are really a star of their respective team.

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July 24, 2021, 09:48:43 PM
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Both underdog teams won tonight, that's why Phoenix was the underdog against Alaska because Wright did not play, but it does not make the team weak, instead, they bounce back strong from their first game loss in the conference. Vic Manuel was the best player of the game with 26 points and 12 rebounds, what a game by him, and Phoenix was not wrong of picking him.

I don't know that Wright is injured but nevertheless, I would still bet them if I knew that situation because Alaska is not a strong team and like what I said, every team in the PBA as of the moment is unstable and unpredictable.

Three games for today with Manila Clasicco on the second game, who you got? The Beast or the Bulldozzer?

I will bet for Magnolia here because IMO the Gin Kings has still chemistry issues with CStand on board.

Pick for the day:

Magnolia ML @1.82
NLEX -9.5 @1.93
SMB & under 191.5@2.07
(not much option with the HC)

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