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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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September 08, 2021, 03:35:39 AM
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We have three games for today after that unexpected postponement.

SMB will be battling the hot TNT Katropa in the second game. This is very interesting since the Beermen is put on an underdog status (though not much), seldom we can see them in this situation so as a fan, i will be rooting for them.

My picks:

NLEX +4.5 @1.90
SMB ML @2.1

Will stay away on the third game, doubt Rain or Shine could defeat a struggling Ginebra. Good luck on us all.




Nice odds for SMB, I'm also a fan of SMB, so even if TNT had a perfect record, I think SMB will bounce back to win against the best team in the PBA now. I might miss watching the first game as it's too early, it's 12:30 and I have so many important things to do, but definitely, I will not miss watching the 2nd game at 3;00 PM.

odds now for SMB is 2.01 only in my bookie, hopefully it will not drop anymore.

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September 08, 2021, 09:20:18 AM
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We have three games for today after that unexpected postponement.

SMB will be battling the hot TNT Katropa in the second game. This is very interesting since the Beermen is put on an underdog status (though not much), seldom we can see them in this situation so as a fan, i will be rooting for them.

My picks:

NLEX +4.5 @1.90
SMB ML @2.1

Will stay away on the third game, doubt Rain or Shine could defeat a struggling Ginebra. Good luck on us all.




Nice odds for SMB, I'm also a fan of SMB, so even if TNT had a perfect record, I think SMB will bounce back to win against the best team in the PBA now. I might miss watching the first game as it's too early, it's 12:30 and I have so many important things to do, but definitely, I will not miss watching the 2nd game at 3;00 PM.

odds now for SMB is 2.01 only in my bookie, hopefully it will not drop anymore.


Looks like the TNT will have their first loss at the hand of the SMB, already in the 4th quarter now with only 2 minutes left in the game, SMB has a 15 points lead, I think this game is already over. Now, no one is undefeated in the conference, and yet the hottest is still the DYIP as they are still in 3 winning streak and has not loss since the PBA return.

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September 08, 2021, 09:50:17 AM
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If CJ Perez was still in DYIP, we won't other names on their roster stepping up.

Honestly, I didn't even know some of them until they are producing good numbers. This team has a future if it won't be destroyed thru trades.

There are a lot of players being added to the DYIP roster due to the departure of CJ Perez, and it turns out to give a good result to the team's chemistry. No star player for the team, no problem. CJ Perez not getting his minutes with the SMB as he is not a starter, but he has to play his role, I hope he doesn't miss his role with the DYIP.

Ramos, McCarthy and Rosser are those who are being added to their roster, If I remember it right these players are quality players they can really contribute, Rosser and McCarthy are very familiar with each other while Ramos is really known with his outside shooting skills, we've seen them contributing together with those old familiar players within the squad.

CJ is not getting his rhythm yet, as Romeo and Fajardo still the main scorer of SMB. He needs to jive and build good. chemistry, we will see more when the resume of the game takes place.
That is also one of the good things when you are adding many players to the team and knowing that some of the players of the Dyip are young an they got 2 first round picks as well. As long as these players will not go to another team, their chemistry will be built overtime and they might be a playoff contender at that time. I just hope that SMC and MVP will not milk these young players.

I'm a SMB fan but I hate these 2 companies because they are killing the competitiveness of the league. Money over competitiveness is what is on their mind. Anyway, Perez isn't felt in SMB because of their all-star players but give him time and he will be one of the top scorers of the team. Maybe it is not now but maybe in 1-3 years.

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September 08, 2021, 11:31:03 AM
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Nice game by the SMB, they beat the TNT by dominating them.

Here are the top scorers of the game. https://pba.ph/recap?match=1902617

* Lassiter - 19 points
* Romeo - 16 points
* Tautua - 13 points
* Perez - 13 points

JFM, not double-digit in scoring but he made 17 rebounds (5 of that are offensive rebounds)

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September 08, 2021, 11:49:10 AM
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Nice game by the SMB, they beat the TNT by dominating them.

Here are the top scorers of the game. https://pba.ph/recap?match=1902617

* Lassiter - 19 points
* Romeo - 16 points
* Tautua - 13 points
* Perez - 13 points

JFM, not double-digit in scoring but he made 17 rebounds (5 of that are offensive rebounds)


He doesn't need to make a double-digit, we know he is capable, and in this game that's their strategy. He just dominated the inside with his rebounding ability, and the TNT which was the best team in the conference has already tasted a loss for the first time.

Bad shooting night for TNT, they only scored 67 points for a team that is good offensively.
Looks like we are already in a playoff atmosphere here.  Smiley
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September 08, 2021, 02:39:13 PM
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Nice game by the SMB, they beat the TNT by dominating them.

Here are the top scorers of the game. https://pba.ph/recap?match=1902617

* Lassiter - 19 points
* Romeo - 16 points
* Tautua - 13 points
* Perez - 13 points

JFM, not double-digit in scoring but he made 17 rebounds (5 of that are offensive rebounds)


He doesn't need to make a double-digit, we know he is capable, and in this game that's their strategy. He just dominated the inside with his rebounding ability, and the TNT which was the best team in the conference has already tasted a loss for the first time.

Bad shooting night for TNT, they only scored 67 points for a team that is good offensively.
Looks like we are already in a playoff atmosphere here.  Smiley
Low scoring between two super teams seems that it's off night for coach Chot's squad.

I didn't watch the game but when seeing this post I check the stats and key players like Castro, Rosario and Erram didn't perform much.
Only Pogoy from their core who made double digit but also ain't enough to help TNT to continue their winning streak.

And to add up, All San Miguel teams win their games. Magnolia went to double OT. Abueva once again leads Magnolia together with
his San Sebastian duo Ian Sangalang.

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September 08, 2021, 04:50:55 PM
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There are a lot of players being added to the DYIP roster due to the departure of CJ Perez, and it turns out to give a good result to the team's chemistry. No star player for the team, no problem. CJ Perez not getting his minutes with the SMB as he is not a starter, but he has to play his role, I hope he doesn't miss his role with the DYIP.
Ramos, McCarthy and Rosser are those who are being added to their roster, If I remember it right these players are quality players they can really contribute, Rosser and McCarthy are very familiar with each other while Ramos is really known with his outside shooting skills, we've seen them contributing together with those old familiar players within the squad.
CJ is not getting his rhythm yet, as Romeo and Fajardo still the main scorer of SMB. He needs to jive and build good. chemistry, we will see more when the resume of the game takes place.
That is also one of the good things when you are adding many players to the team and knowing that some of the players of the Dyip are young an they got 2 first round picks as well. As long as these players will not go to another team, their chemistry will be built overtime and they might be a playoff contender at that time. I just hope that SMC and MVP will not milk these young players.
I'm a SMB fan but I hate these 2 companies because they are killing the competitiveness of the league. Money over competitiveness is what is on their mind. Anyway, Perez isn't felt in SMB because of their all-star players but give him time and he will be one of the top scorers of the team. Maybe it is not now but maybe in 1-3 years.

Money compared to competitiveness takes away the enjoyment of the game in my opinion. You can always buy better players if you have the budget but seeing a team build chemistry over time and seeing them playing with that crisp-chemistry is on a whole another level of enjoyment. Yes, I love to see the best players playing on the field but I also love to see the insane chemistry plays of these teams.

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September 08, 2021, 08:04:18 PM
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That is also one of the good things when you are adding many players to the team and knowing that some of the players of the Dyip are young an they got 2 first round picks as well. As long as these players will not go to another team, their chemistry will be built overtime and they might be a playoff contender at that time. I just hope that SMC and MVP will not milk these young players.
Building chemistry and allow each youngster to prove what they've got, unlike playing with big franchise where this young
generation star can't do anything but to watch their stars playing, with how DYIP showing trust with each player inside the court
they are developing talents and bringing entertainment to fans, not only their fans but also those who unexpecting them to win the game.

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Both SMC and MVP are capable to pay more that's why it's every players dream to try reaching them by showcasing their talents and allow scout from this company to get some interest and maybe a possible offer once they've satisfied with the talents that young players have.

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September 08, 2021, 09:18:59 PM
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Nice game by the SMB, they beat the TNT by dominating them.

Here are the top scorers of the game. https://pba.ph/recap?match=1902617

* Lassiter - 19 points
* Romeo - 16 points
* Tautua - 13 points
* Perez - 13 points

JFM, not double-digit in scoring but he made 17 rebounds (5 of that are offensive rebounds)


He doesn't need to make a double-digit, we know he is capable, and in this game that's their strategy. He just dominated the inside with his rebounding ability, and the TNT which was the best team in the conference has already tasted a loss for the first time.

I agree, JMF doesn't have to force himself to score double-digit points as of this time because a lot of his teammates are offensive machines. Grabbing 17 17 rebounds is not a thing that a player would do every night even if you are the tallest player so that's already a big help already for the team.

Meanwhile, the hottest team Dyip will be playing against Phoenix and the odds are almost even but I have to bet for the latter here because Dyip, as i've said before, is not yet consistent on winning games.

My picks:

Phoenix -1.5 @1.86
Northport Batang Pier -6.5 @1.95.

GL everyone and enjoy.

 
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September 08, 2021, 10:39:09 PM
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Nice game by the SMB, they beat the TNT by dominating them.

Here are the top scorers of the game. https://pba.ph/recap?match=1902617

* Lassiter - 19 points
* Romeo - 16 points
* Tautua - 13 points
* Perez - 13 points

JFM, not double-digit in scoring but he made 17 rebounds (5 of that are offensive rebounds)


He doesn't need to make a double-digit, we know he is capable, and in this game that's their strategy. He just dominated the inside with his rebounding ability, and the TNT which was the best team in the conference has already tasted a loss for the first time.

I agree, JMF doesn't have to force himself to score double-digit points as of this time because a lot of his teammates are offensive machines. Grabbing 17 17 rebounds is not a thing that a player would do every night even if you are the tallest player so that's already a big help already for the team.

Meanwhile, the hottest team Dyip will be playing against Phoenix and the odds are almost even but I have to bet for the latter here because Dyip, as i've said before, is not yet consistent on winning games.

My picks:

Phoenix -1.5 @1.86
Northport Batang Pier -6.5 @1.95.

GL everyone and enjoy.

 

Phoenix is really struggling this conference, I don't know if I could still trust them against the hottest team in the PBA now. @bisdak40, I think I will see this game and just bet on the next game, I might follow your bet on Northport Batang Pier -6.5, GL to us.
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September 08, 2021, 11:09:09 PM
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Both SMC and MVP are capable to pay more that's why it's every players dream to try reaching them by showcasing their talents and allow scout from this company to get some interest and maybe a possible offer once they've satisfied with the talents that young players have.

The biggest company that handles a lot of teams in the PBA, looks like a monopoly for these two big giants that's why PBA is less exciting to watch. they struggle on the high expenses on this pandemic, I think it's time for them to open the league for more team owners so there will be more teams playing and that will add the excitement to the fans, I just missed the old PBA though.

Northport Batang Pier -6.5, GL to us.

looks like an easy pick as Blackwater is still 0 until now.

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September 09, 2021, 12:15:06 AM
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Nice game by the SMB, they beat the TNT by dominating them.
Here are the top scorers of the game. https://pba.ph/recap?match=1902617
* Lassiter - 19 points
* Romeo - 16 points
* Tautua - 13 points
* Perez - 13 points
JFM, not double-digit in scoring but he made 17 rebounds (5 of that are offensive rebounds)
He doesn't need to make a double-digit, we know he is capable, and in this game that's their strategy. He just dominated the inside with his rebounding ability, and the TNT which was the best team in the conference has already tasted a loss for the first time.
I agree, JMF doesn't have to force himself to score double-digit points as of this time because a lot of his teammates are offensive machines. Grabbing 17 17 rebounds is not a thing that a player would do every night even if you are the tallest player so that's already a big help already for the team.
Meanwhile, the hottest team Dyip will be playing against Phoenix and the odds are almost even but I have to bet for the latter here because Dyip, as i've said before, is not yet consistent on winning games.

Yes, against offensive teams like SMB, you have to score. Otherwise, you cannot contain them for the whole match. And JFM did quite well in my opinion. Even if he did not score tons, having that many rebounds are impressive - especially having 5 offensive rebounds helps the team, though in a passive way - but still helps the team quite a lot.

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DYIP hot run is finally over,  Smiley

Phoenix Fuelmasters defeated the DYIP by 12 points, the score is 96-84.\

Perkins finally exploded with 28 big points while Manuel added 18 points, seeing this 2 big man contributing with good numbers of the team, it will make them a better team not fully relying on Mathew Wright.

Congrats to the winners

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September 09, 2021, 12:12:53 PM
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DYIP hot run is finally over,  Smiley

Phoenix Fuelmasters defeated the DYIP by 12 points, the score is 96-84.\

Perkins finally exploded with 28 big points while Manuel added 18 points, seeing this 2 big man contributing with good numbers of the team, it will make them a better team not fully relying on Mathew Wright.

Congrats to the winners

They are due for a loss, if they can't bounce back from that loss, then we can conclude that their 3 win streak are all lucky wins, especially the win against the BGSM and SMB. I was not able to watch the game live but based on the box score, Tiongson only scored 8 points from 2-10 shooting, probably the defense is focused on him.

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September 09, 2021, 12:59:17 PM
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DYIP hot run is finally over,  Smiley

Phoenix Fuelmasters defeated the DYIP by 12 points, the score is 96-84.\

Perkins finally exploded with 28 big points while Manuel added 18 points, seeing this 2 big man contributing with good numbers of the team, it will make them a better team not fully relying on Mathew Wright.

Congrats to the winners

They are due for a loss, if they can't bounce back from that loss, then we can conclude that their 3 win streak are all lucky wins, especially the win against the BGSM and SMB. I was not able to watch the game live but based on the box score, Tiongson only scored 8 points from 2-10 shooting, probably the defense is focused on him.

They can't keep up the winning streak for so long because they are not the best team in the league, Phoenix needs a win and they have a good win against the hottest team. What's important is DYIP still has a chance to play in the elimination if they will win the next games. No team is perfect at the moment, so we can't expect a team that is in the bottom will just continue to win, the law of average is happening here.
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September 09, 2021, 01:20:40 PM
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DYIP hot run is finally over,  Smiley

Phoenix Fuelmasters defeated the DYIP by 12 points, the score is 96-84.\

Perkins finally exploded with 28 big points while Manuel added 18 points, seeing this 2 big man contributing with good numbers of the team, it will make them a better team not fully relying on Mathew Wright.

Congrats to the winners

They are due for a loss, if they can't bounce back from that loss, then we can conclude that their 3 win streak are all lucky wins, especially the win against the BGSM and SMB. I was not able to watch the game live but based on the box score, Tiongson only scored 8 points from 2-10 shooting, probably the defense is focused on him.

They can't keep up the winning streak for so long because they are not the best team in the league, Phoenix needs a win and they have a good win against the hottest team. What's important is DYIP still has a chance to play in the elimination if they will win the next games. No team is perfect at the moment, so we can't expect a team that is in the bottom will just continue to win, the law of average is happening here.

They are now tied with Phoenix Fuelmasters, with 3-5 record, who would have thought that DYIP will have a better record than the Alaska Aces who are next to the bottom with 2-4 record. Next game of DYIP is this coming Saturday against Northport, let's see if they'll prove us wrong with our belief that the last 3 wins were just due to luck.

What I notice is Tiongson is not consistent anymore, he got checked in already as in the last two games, he did not score double digit anymore IIRC.

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September 09, 2021, 02:14:03 PM
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What I notice is Tiongson is not consistent anymore, he got checked in already as in the last two games, he did not score double digit anymore IIRC.

This is normal because Tiongson, after that high scoring game of him is already a marked man, meaning he will be depended well and it is up to his teammates to step up for them to continue winning but as you have said, they are not consistent on winning games so a lose is kinda expected.

I'm 2-0 for today, not bad  Grin.

We have an interesting game tomorrow between SMB and Ginebra with the former as the favorite to win but i;m still rooting for them to bag the win for this game tomorrow.

SMB -2.5 @1.93, my lone pick for tomorrow.
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September 09, 2021, 04:53:33 PM
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DYIP hot run is finally over,  Smiley
Phoenix Fuelmasters defeated the DYIP by 12 points, the score is 96-84.\
Perkins finally exploded with 28 big points while Manuel added 18 points, seeing this 2 big man contributing with good numbers of the team, it will make them a better team not fully relying on Mathew Wright.
Congrats to the winners
They are due for a loss, if they can't bounce back from that loss, then we can conclude that their 3 win streak are all lucky wins, especially the win against the BGSM and SMB. I was not able to watch the game live but based on the box score, Tiongson only scored 8 points from 2-10 shooting, probably the defense is focused on him.
They can't keep up the winning streak for so long because they are not the best team in the league, Phoenix needs a win and they have a good win against the hottest team. What's important is DYIP still has a chance to play in the elimination if they will win the next games. No team is perfect at the moment, so we can't expect a team that is in the bottom will just continue to win, the law of average is happening here.

You know, this run had to come to an end and it happened against SPF, and kudos to SPF and specifically Manuel and Perkins. They have proved that their team is on a one-man army, and relying on one player is not always good for a team in the long run. Perkins and Manuel stepping up is a good sign for them.

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September 09, 2021, 06:15:43 PM
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What I notice is Tiongson is not consistent anymore, he got checked in already as in the last two games, he did not score double digit anymore IIRC.

This is normal because Tiongson, after that high scoring game of him is already a marked man, meaning he will be depended well and it is up to his teammates to step up for them to continue winning but as you have said, they are not consistent on winning games so a lose is kinda expected.

I'm 2-0 for today, not bad  Grin.

First congrats for winning both of your picks, that's really sweet as you anticipate things correctly!

in regard to Tiongson, you are right he's already been marked by every team after that good game against SMB
and BGSM as he managed to lift the team high by contributing enough to snatch the game away from the two favorites.

DYIP needs to win to continue their chance to move to the next round.

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We have an interesting game tomorrow between SMB and Ginebra with the former as the favorite to win but i;m still rooting for them to bag the win for this game tomorrow.

SMB -2.5 @1.93, my lone pick for tomorrow.

I'll watch this up and try to bet during the live game, both teams are explosives, very tough to pick right away.

Good luck though!

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September 09, 2021, 07:44:26 PM
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DYIP needs to win to continue their chance to move to the next round.
They need to adjust now that Tiongson will only be limited since the defense was focused on him, as you guys said, he is already a marked man and he will not surely achieve what he scored during the first 2 wins of DYIP this season. Good to the DYIP, looks like they are now challenge after winning 3 straight wins, I hope they'll recover and start winning again.

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