Why do Atheists Hate Religion?

[BADecker]

Since man is a rational being, a creature of reason, it is obvious that GOD would want man to think. BADecker implies that thinking is a religion, but it is perfectly fair to ask BADecker "compared to what?" Another question to ask of him is "how can we know that you are not misleading us into a false religion? what is the fruit of such a belief? why should one choose a belief which is irrational and against reason, which denies man's basic virtue? is it balanced to equivocate opinion and reason?", etc.

Thinking is surely not a religion but the 6th point he mentioned might be.Atheism has become the new religion nowadays.

I think atheism is the consequence of nihilism.

That will go away once the Messiah will come.


Best regards.

Can we get a date for your messiahs arrival?  Maybe once he misses the deadline you can think about an alternative religion?

Nobody knows when Jesus, the Messiah, will return. God even hides the date from parts of Himself. But, it will happen when all the nations of the world have had a chance to receive the Bible and believe it, or not.

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[BADecker]

No, it is not cause if people were that skeptical then there wouldn't be any religions fucking around in 21st century.
you cannot chose any path if you don't have one and make it your believe that it's right.

Are you an atheist?


Best regards.

I have no religion,  only theories none of which include any gods.  And any theories I do have also arent beliefs, just could be 's.. My religion isn't atheism like many people in this thread are getting to push.

You quoted the message that was not directed to you.

Aside from that: Science (and hence theories) come from the Fear of God
Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_God

How can you have theories if you have no God?


Best regards.

Apologies for the wrong quote,  I thought you had quoted me twice so just quoted the last one you made,  I didn't realise you asked the same question to two different people until you mentioned it.  So anyways, back to the question.

I can quote easily have theories without having a god because none of my theories contain any gods,  to me beleif in a God or gods is completely irrational,  someone earlier seemed to take that as me questioning their intelligence which obviously isn't the case.

For example , a theory I could  beleive if is when we die there is nothing,  the same as before we were born.  Thare is no god in this theory and obviously it's very hard to prove but to me a lot less ridiculous than some all powerful all knowing God.

Wow! I didn't realize you had such strong faith in your personal religion.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

There's no such thing as burning in hell forever and ever. Our souls are not immortal. We get the gift of an immortal soul through faith in Jesus.

Jesus speaking in Matthew 25:46:

Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.

See http://www.compellingtruth.org/human-soul-mortal-immortal.html for places in the Bible that say or suggest that the soul is eternal.

And Sodom and Gomorrah are not still burning. The soul will be eternal through our Father, when you are saved you get the gift. Those verses are about people who are saved. I don't argue that people who are saved won't live forever. In fact that's what I said. But it is a gift. The evil will be ashes under our feet one day.

[BADecker]

I will share you a scientific research where people speak what they see after they back from the death:

Rofl... dude whatever you see is just what you think and are familiar with and no there is no scientific research on people ever who came back to life after death,Wikipedia is crap.

Why Wikipedia is crap?


Best regards.

Because anyone can sign up to change anything in Wiki the way that they want. If there are trolls out there, they can change Wiki to produce lies all over the place. In fact, they have done this already, where medical trolls have changed good nutritional info to lies that attempt to promote stupid medicine.

[BADecker]

Are you naive ? A bigot ? A troll ? or been raised surrounded by idiots ?

I am sorry this is not a personal attack.

Best Regards

I'm in the wrong thread and I wan't to know why.


Best regards.

It's because you are a 14-year-old girl.

[BADecker]

No. What it is, is, there are those who want to twist what I am saying, and there are those who are too ignorant to figure something simple out.

As I said. God is giving the atheists opportunity to be saved. There is no excuse. God holds the way open for all. And He does it for each person individually in ways that each person can understand.

But, if you think that God's ways are unfair, don't let your thinking cause you to be against Him. If you do, you will miss out on eternal life in joy and glory.

Your god doesnt give any choices, You must accept the exceptionally unlikely possibility that your god is real but if you dont and your wrong then burn in hell for all of eternity. ridiculous scare mongering. Is there no doubt in your mind that if there is a correct religion then you've picked the wrong one?

God holds one choice open for us: Allowance to believe in Him or not. Also, He measures the strength of that faith. Then He acts to adjust the universe according to the direction of our faith and the strength of it.

God is not some simple god. He has amazingly great strength, way beyond understanding. If necessary, when a person's faith changes, God goes back to the beginning of creation thousands of years ago, and jiggles and juggles everything to match the change in a person's faith. He does this in ways that do not disturb things that might change stuff for others whose faith has not changed.

God told us how He gives us eternal life through His Son Jesus, in the Bible.

This is all from a book some guy wrote a few thousand years ago and your taking it as gospel. Imagine what would happen if they found harry potter in a few thousand years.

You are mistaken about the history of how the Bible was written. Look it up.

people were simple thousands of years ago and their understanding of the world was very simple, It wouldn't take much of a charismatic person to convince people that they were more than human. imagine if someone like david blane was around back then. His powers would be unquestioned, he could tell people whatever he liked and they would lap it up.  And soon as the next town heard these chinese whispers of some magic man the storys would soon get out of hand to the point where you could have thousands of followers. now you have just created a religion.

The idea that people were simple thousands of years ago is a fallacy produced by many universities and archaeologists to promote the idea that there is no God. Actually, when you go to the evidence that Graham Hancock has dug up, that there was a great, worldwide civilization thousands of years ago, we see that it is we who have become less complex through devolution.

You may not Like Graham Hancock and others like him. But their logic about ancient civilizations as corroborated by the archaeological finds is indisputable. We - mankind - as a race are devolving.

[BADecker]

There's no such thing as burning in hell forever and ever. Our souls are not immortal. We get the gift of an immortal soul through faith in Jesus.

Jesus speaking in Matthew 25:46:

Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.

See http://www.compellingtruth.org/human-soul-mortal-immortal.html for places in the Bible that say or suggest that the soul is eternal.

And Sodom and Gomorrah are not still burning. The soul will be eternal through our Father, when you are saved you get the gift. Those verses are about people who are saved. I don't argue that people who are saved won't live forever. In fact that's what I said. But it is a gift. The evil will be ashes under our feet one day.

Sodom and Gomorrah?

We were made in the image of God. We are eternal. It will take an eternity to destroy the eternal soul in Hell. It won't be fun.

That's okay, however. Just remain in your faith in Jesus salvation. Not believing what the Bible says in Matthew 25:46 and many other places, will not steal your salvation from you. It will simply make you a little less effective evangelist, and a little more of a liar... liar by accident, of course.

[helloeverybody]

No. What it is, is, there are those who want to twist what I am saying, and there are those who are too ignorant to figure something simple out.

As I said. God is giving the atheists opportunity to be saved. There is no excuse. God holds the way open for all. And He does it for each person individually in ways that each person can understand.

But, if you think that God's ways are unfair, don't let your thinking cause you to be against Him. If you do, you will miss out on eternal life in joy and glory.

Your god doesnt give any choices, You must accept the exceptionally unlikely possibility that your god is real but if you dont and your wrong then burn in hell for all of eternity. ridiculous scare mongering. Is there no doubt in your mind that if there is a correct religion then you've picked the wrong one?

God holds one choice open for us: Allowance to believe in Him or not. Also, He measures the strength of that faith. Then He acts to adjust the universe according to the direction of our faith and the strength of it.

God is not some simple god. He has amazingly great strength, way beyond understanding. If necessary, when a person's faith changes, God goes back to the beginning of creation thousands of years ago, and jiggles and juggles everything to match the change in a person's faith. He does this in ways that do not disturb things that might change stuff for others whose faith has not changed.

God told us how He gives us eternal life through His Son Jesus, in the Bible.

This is all from a book some guy wrote a few thousand years ago and your taking it as gospel. Imagine what would happen if they found harry potter in a few thousand years.

You are mistaken about the history of how the Bible was written. Look it up.

people were simple thousands of years ago and their understanding of the world was very simple, It wouldn't take much of a charismatic person to convince people that they were more than human. imagine if someone like david blane was around back then. His powers would be unquestioned, he could tell people whatever he liked and they would lap it up.  And soon as the next town heard these chinese whispers of some magic man the storys would soon get out of hand to the point where you could have thousands of followers. now you have just created a religion.

The idea that people were simple thousands of years ago is a fallacy produced by many universities and archaeologists to promote the idea that there is no God. Actually, when you go to the evidence that Graham Hancock has dug up, that there was a great, worldwide civilization thousands of years ago, we see that it is we who have become less complex through devolution.

You may not Like Graham Hancock and others like him. But their logic about ancient civilizations as corroborated by the archaeological finds is indisputable. We - mankind - as a race are devolving.

Its taken the advancement of technology to be able to communicate findings and ideas to advance civilisation, remember its not that long ago that it was beleived the world was flat, thunder and natural disasters were the act of god etc. with good knowledge a civilisation could be easily tricked in the past, even now in undeveloped countries people are tricked by people into thinking they have magical powers. I would be confident to say that jesus may have even existed but using tricks and manipulation could fool people into believing he was some sort of prophet and even the son of the most popular god of the time.

Also ive mentioned it in a few posts back but im just going to put this out here for you again because im not sure your definition of religion and mine are the same.

the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

[popcorn1]

I will share you a scientific research where people speak what they see after they back from the death:

Rofl... dude whatever you see is just what you think and are familiar with and no there is no scientific research on people ever who came back to life after death,Wikipedia is crap.

Why Wikipedia is crap?


Best regards.

Because anyone can sign up to change anything in Wiki the way that they want. If there are trolls out there, they can change Wiki to produce lies all over the place. In fact, they have done this already, where medical trolls have changed good nutritional info to lies that attempt to promote stupid medicine.

Still preaching your bullshit BADECKER 

BECAUSE ITS OLDEN DAY THINKING 
21ST CENTURY GROW UP THICK PEOPLE..OH AND SANTA CLAUSE IS COMING TO TOWN

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Our souls are not immortal. We get the gift of an immortal soul through faith in Jesus.

Jesus never said anything like that. Actually, he urged you NOT to worship him. Of course, you would never suspect this if you only read 4 of the 28 written gospels, i.e. the four that were approved by the Church of Rome.

But wait, MMH knew this already, because...

I don't ignore anything, I have my eyes wide open.

Yet she still trys to deceive us into worshiping Jesus.
Never ceases to amaze me how low these cult members stoop. Must be one of those wolve's in sheep's clothing sort we need to watch out for.

[BADecker]

I will share you a scientific research where people speak what they see after they back from the death:

Rofl... dude whatever you see is just what you think and are familiar with and no there is no scientific research on people ever who came back to life after death,Wikipedia is crap.

Why Wikipedia is crap?


Best regards.

Because anyone can sign up to change anything in Wiki the way that they want. If there are trolls out there, they can change Wiki to produce lies all over the place. In fact, they have done this already, where medical trolls have changed good nutritional info to lies that attempt to promote stupid medicine.

Still preaching your bullshit BADECKER  

BECAUSE ITS OLDEN DAY THINKING  
21ST CENTURY GROW UP THICK PEOPLE..OH AND SANTA CLAUSE IS COMING TO TOWN

It's rather a shame that the only times the things you say make sense is when you agree with what I say. It might be fun getting a new, logical view.

 

[BADecker]

Its taken the advancement of technology to be able to communicate findings and ideas to advance civilisation, remember its not that long ago that it was beleived the world was flat, thunder and natural disasters were the act of god etc. with good knowledge a civilisation could be easily tricked in the past, even now in undeveloped countries people are tricked by people into thinking they have magical powers.

It has taken the so-called advancement of technology to cause people to think that they are advanced.

For example. Thousands of years ago people were able to move gigantic blocks of stone, weighing up to a thousand tons each, over hundreds of miles, so that they could set up wonderful buildings and monuments.

We don't have the technology to do this today. But, we could probbly devise some technology that could do this. However, if we did, we still couldn't move the stones. Why not? Because our economies are so weak that we couldn't afford building the equipment that it would take, or making the move if the equipment happened to be built. Yet, the ancients of thousands of years ago did it. They were advanced beyond what we are.

I would be confident to say that jesus may have even existed but using tricks and manipulation could fool people into believing he was some sort of prophet and even the son of the most popular god of the time.

However, you and those like you would attempt to fool people into thinking that we have knowledge of all kinds of things that we don't. If you had simply said something like, "we don't know if Jesus had special power or not," or "we aren't sure what God is like," then you might possibly have enough humility to understand that in the basics of life we are behind the ancients, even though we have a bunch of so-called technology.

Also ive mentioned it in a few posts back but im just going to put this out here for you again because im not sure your definition of religion and mine are the same.

All you have to do is look at the standard dictionary definitions of the word "religion" to see what my definitions are. Anybody can make up new definitions to words. Is that what you are doing with the word "religion?"

the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

Sounds like you aren't smart enough to put together the concepts:
1. cause and effect;
2. universal complexity;
3. universal entropy;
to see that they say "God."

Religion isn't about the existence of God. Religion is about His attributes. We can see in nature that God exists... except if we are blind, like you seem to saying that you are.

[BADecker]

Our souls are not immortal. We get the gift of an immortal soul through faith in Jesus.

Jesus never said anything like that. Actually, he urged you NOT to worship him. Of course, you would never suspect this if you only read 4 of the 28 written gospels, i.e. the four that were approved by the Church of Rome.

But wait, MMH knew this already, because...

I don't ignore anything, I have my eyes wide open.

Yet she still trys to deceive us into worshiping Jesus.
Never ceases to amaze me how low these cult members stoop. Must be one of those wolve's in sheep's clothing sort we need to watch out for.

The important part is that she is trying to get you to Worship Jesus God. If you won't, and if you don't, you will be causing your own destruction. Don't say that she and I didn't warn you when the time comes.

[popcorn1]

I will share you a scientific research where people speak what they see after they back from the death:

Rofl... dude whatever you see is just what you think and are familiar with and no there is no scientific research on people ever who came back to life after death,Wikipedia is crap.

Why Wikipedia is crap?


Best regards.

Because anyone can sign up to change anything in Wiki the way that they want. If there are trolls out there, they can change Wiki to produce lies all over the place. In fact, they have done this already, where medical trolls have changed good nutritional info to lies that attempt to promote stupid medicine.

Still preaching your bullshit BADECKER  

BECAUSE ITS OLDEN DAY THINKING  
21ST CENTURY GROW UP THICK PEOPLE..OH AND SANTA CLAUSE IS COMING TO TOWN

It's rather a shame that the only times the things you say make sense is when you agree with what I say. It might be fun getting a new, logical view.

 

YOUR NOT LOGICAL When it comes to the question Why do Atheists hate Religion

You make it all up you are a dreamer a coo koo
point1 there is no god
god created the earth in 7 days but gives children cancer makes no sense
if i was god and i am sure most would agree if you can make the earth in 7 days you would make sure kids don.t suffer ..or did god forget to do this

so just for that reason alone i know there is no god i rest my case ..
and if there is one he not much of a god to be worshipped if he lets children suffer

plus he clicks his fingers and created the day and night SO TELL GOD TO CLICK HIS FINGERS AND MAKE EVERY CHILD HAPPY AND SICK FREE
wont happen because there is no god
when all religion goes the better the planet will be  
PLEASE DON.T SAY IT BADECKER blah blah blah blah your are religious because you do something every day..you know i mean GODS WHEN I TALK RELIGION..

OH sorry in 6 days 7 day is day of worship and rest so one of my family member says because he wont work on sundays lazy shit he is just an excuse to get off overtime double bubble

[BADecker]

YOUR NOT LOGICAL When it comes to the question Why do Atheists hate Religion

First, the way you are using the word "YOUR" is wrong. You are using it as a contraction. "YOUR" is not a contraction. You would spell it "YOU'RE" if you knew what you were talking about.

You make it all up you are a dreamer a coo koo

Anyone can make things up. But I have logical and reasonable explanations for the things I say, but you don't seem to have any explanations at all.

point1 there is no god

I know that it is difficult to think out the explanation I have written two posts above. So you have your excuse this time.

god created the earth in 7 days but gives children cancer makes no sense

God created this wonderful universe in 6 days, but people listen to and follow the devil to their own hurt. Makes no sense. But they keep on trying to ignore God, Who is trying to save them.

if i was god and i am sure most would agree if you can make the earth in 7 days you would make sure kids don.t suffer ..or did god forget to do this

There weren't any kids back then. God has given freedom. If you have kids, it is your fault for not teaching them that their freedom comes from God, and that it is their own fault for not following God.

so just for that reason alone i know there is no god i rest my case ..
and if there is one he not much of a god to be worshipped if he lets children suffer

God owns all. If it were His desire to make trouble for people, He would have the right.

You defy God. Yet He doesn't increase your trouble for doing so. He is giving you a chance to turn to Him and be saved from the trouble you are making for yourself.

plus he clicks his fingers and created the day and night SO TELL GOD TO CLICK HIS FINGERS AND MAKE EVERY CHILD HAPPY AND SICK FREE
wont happen because there is no god

It has already been set in place that this will be done.

God has set a time when this univrse will be destroyed. A new universe that doesn't have any of the qualities of this old one will appear. If you accept the salvation made by Jesus, you can be part of that new universe, where there will be no pain or trouble, but only joy and glory.

But you don't want to do this, do you. So you see? You are self condemned already.

when all religion goes the better the planet will be  
PLEASE DON.T SAY IT BADECKER blah blah blah blah your are religious because you do something every day..you know i mean GODS WHEN I TALK RELIGION..

How do I know what you mean except by the things that you say? As long as one person exists, there will be religion. All people have religion. It isn't my idea. That is simply the way it is.

But thank you for giving me this incentive to write. Other people just might look at this post and be saved. So, thank you on behalf of those other people.

[Heutenamos]

We were made in the image of God. We are eternal. It will take an eternity to destroy the eternal soul in Hell. It won't be fun.

If it's not fun then why does god comes and makes the shit serious ? why the wait of thousands of years ?

"God" religion has been around from the Beginning.

Which beginning are you talking about, The Apes ?

[Spoetnik]

4,200 listed on Wikipedia ..there is far too many to hate LOL

FOUR THOUSAND different "groups" of creepy weirdos all preaching their weird ass God bullshit is the REAL one  

Listen up stupid alien infected sinners !
Get to an eMeter pronto and get your Thetan count checked ASAP !

[Maskedman]

Because atheists are defined as people who hate religion.

[BADecker]

We were made in the image of God. We are eternal. It will take an eternity to destroy the eternal soul in Hell. It won't be fun.

If it's not fun then why does god comes and makes the shit serious ? why the wait of thousands of years ?

The thousand years spoken of in the Revelation is figurative for "a long period of time." The beginning of this long period of time was at the time that Jesus arose from the dead. We are living in the long period of time right now. It exists so that you and a lot of other people like you have ample opportunity to change your minds about God, become believers, and be saved.

"God" religion has been around from the Beginning.

Which beginning are you talking about, The Apes ?

Yes, the beginning of the apes and everything else. The creation only took 6 days. The apes were created on day 6. The beginning of the creation was the beginning of day 1. So, unless you are very picky, you cold say that it was at the time of the creation of the apes.

[Spoetnik]

Because atheists are defined as people who hate religion.

wrong

Open Google then enter this..

Code:

define:atheists

a·the·ist
ˈāTHēəst/
noun
plural noun: atheists

    a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
    "he is a committed atheist"
    synonyms:   nonbeliever, disbeliever, unbeliever, skeptic, doubter, doubting Thomas, agnostic; nihilist
    "why is it often assumed that a man of science is probably an atheist?"