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Author Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com  (Read 3050098 times)
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October 13, 2013, 06:01:38 PM
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HE said " if they failed to deliver what they promised" ..which would also be true for pizza or anything he paid for. He never mentioned mining companies. KnC have been super confident from the start and have ORSOC who aren't noobs in ASIC design as partners.



New Company: "Hey guys, we promise we can deliver something no one has before in a timeframe no one has before. Now accepting your money"

Most whiners in this thread: "Things are not going perfectly. I HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS WHATSOEVER. YOU PROMISED ME A SURE THING AND NOW I WANT MY MONEY BACK/TO BITCH AND MOAN POINTLESSLY/ FREE UPGRADES."

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October 13, 2013, 06:06:02 PM
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Um, no thanks. I do not feel the need to prove gravity or any other obvious fact. The only ones capable of education are doing it for themselves, trust me.

translation:  i can't.

I can't what? Prove you've only been in here for 2 days? Is that all of a sudden what I was trying to do? You can't alter the argument in order to win it, sorry.
And simply stating that you are not a troll does not, in fact, make it not so.

Let's alter it in this way: How many posts do you have in here vs how many I have in there? See? It's easy to control the outcome when BS freely flies from your fingertips.

it's about attacking ppl.  who initiates that around here?  answer: you.

have i ever started attacking you out of the blue in an unprovoked manner?  no.  did i start out by attacking erdouchen?  no.  you guys come in here and other places and attack ppl's integrity for no reason.

the only one i've been asking questions of is Rama.  and in my last post this morning i said i was sorry for him.  i think he's being used by KNC if he indeed hasn't been or isn't going to be paid.
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October 13, 2013, 06:08:24 PM
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Hahaha the children here....



p.s. nobody cares about hashfast
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=273026.msg3318828#msg3318828
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October 13, 2013, 06:10:21 PM
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the use of "integrity" made me laugh.

If you continually act a certain way, others are going to react to it. If you didn't want that, you wouldn't be posting. We are not the only 2 who comment on your posts. Not by  a LONG shot. My articulation shouldn't get me singled out, but I understand.

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October 13, 2013, 06:11:32 PM
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it's about attacking ppl.  who initiates that around here?  answer: you.

have i ever started attacking you out of the blue in an unprovoked manner?  no.  did i start out by attacking erdouchen?  no.  you guys come in here and other places and attack ppl's integrity for no reason.

the only one i've been asking questions of is Rama.  and in my last post this morning i said i was sorry for him.  i think he's being used by KNC if he indeed hasn't been or isn't going to be paid.

Cypherdoc, you are spamming this thread with nothing useful. Everybody here wants information about KNC hardware and its delivery status.

You attack Bitcoinorama relentlessly and have your own thread for that purpose that you have the freedom of:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=273026.msg3331277

Stop attention-seeking and return there. Or go and write a newsletter, or something.

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October 13, 2013, 06:12:30 PM
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My 2centz.....
To those thinking another BBB will help their Jupiter....... WRONG
The BBB is useless without the controller board it's mounted to.


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October 13, 2013, 06:14:43 PM
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My apologies to everyone else for my participation in muddying the waters of discourse. I always fall into Troll Traps, even knowing them for what they are.  Embarrassed


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October 13, 2013, 06:14:56 PM
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Hi,

is it safe to put some vent like this one on top of the rig and let it run 24/7?

http://www.amazon.com/Lasko-3723-20-Inch-Premium-3-SPEED/dp/B000HHJ2I2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381687873&sr=8-1&keywords=boxfan
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October 13, 2013, 06:16:13 PM
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KnC originally promised Jupiter at 250Gh/s for $7k.

Is that supposed to be an argument supporting the statement that "They will have already compensated you by delivering over TWICE the hashrate you paid for."?


They have never lied about their intention to deliver on time.

They might not have lied, but they definitely misleaded a lot of people.
"All current paid orders will be shipped no later than October 15th." - This is a non-ambiguous statement.
You know perfectly well how UK laws treat misleading information and for that matter any EU Law.
If there is a court case and this piece of evidence is provided you can be sure it will be sufficient to conclude there is a delay.

And last I would like to post my views on the Delay situation:

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First I want to state a very simple fact, which some people tend to miss: KNC is a for-profit company and there is no denying that. Their prime objective is to make money.
On the other side of the relationship are the KNC customers, who again are for-profit entities and are here to make money. I've seen people claiming the opposite on the forums saying "oh You should be happy to help Bitcoin grow and not care so much about ROI". I find it very hard to believe that there are people who will willingly pay thousands of USD just to help Bitcoin grow and prosper. Nobody is here only or mainly to support the Bitcoin network with money outside of his own pocket. Everyone is here to make a profit as their prime goal. Nobody is thinking: oh I will invest 7000USD in this company to help Bitcoin, regardless of ROI and just feel happy about myself.
Bottom line: ROI is everything for everyone.

To simplify things I will compare ROI to a set number of days: each day represents a portion of the expected ROI. Imagine it like a big apple pie, where one piece gets rotten and bad for each day that passes, so you have to throw it in the bin. So what happens is for every day that KNCMiner is late beyond the advertised shipping date a piece of the pie gets thrown away and eventually I will receive half a pie or worse. When does it end? How far beyond the advertised date KNC would have to be late, before they change their position and realize that customers are being injured financially?
Would customers feel good about KNC if they were to receive their miners 1st of week of November and all November orders were to follow from the 15th November? What about 10th November?
What time window do KNC find acceptable for delays to occur in?
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October 13, 2013, 06:17:13 PM
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I was considering that originally for my tests.
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October 13, 2013, 06:18:24 PM
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I was considering that originally for my tests.

But....?

Edit: I dont wanna enter my garage the next morning and that thing started a little fire.
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EXACTLY What I'm using..lol....works great!


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October 13, 2013, 06:21:21 PM
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EXACTLY What I'm using..lol....works great!

Hashrate got better?
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by about 20 gh/s, yes, and dropped temps 10 degrees Celcius
260 to 272gh/s, and 58-60C to 43-45C


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it's about attacking ppl.  who initiates that around here?  answer: you.

have i ever started attacking you out of the blue in an unprovoked manner?  no.  did i start out by attacking erdouchen?  no.  you guys come in here and other places and attack ppl's integrity for no reason.

the only one i've been asking questions of is Rama.  and in my last post this morning i said i was sorry for him.  i think he's being used by KNC if he indeed hasn't been or isn't going to be paid.

Cypherdoc, you are spamming this thread with nothing useful. Everybody here wants information about KNC hardware and its delivery status.

You attack Bitcoinorama relentlessly and have your own thread for that purpose that you have the freedom of:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=273026.msg3331277

Stop attention-seeking and return there. Or go and write a newsletter, or something.

i did not attack him this morning.  i only asked him to clarify his status with KNC.  which revealed the following facts:

1.  he has not been paid and apparently there is no promise to be paid or even employed.
2.  his trip to Sweden will be paid by KNC.
3.  non-employed Rama is being used to help assemble, package, ship, and promote/provide communications for the company.

all useful and accurate info which is why Rama is not in here fighting me tooth and nail.  cue Hempstock, donch and erdouchen attacks.  

as i said, i actually feel sorry for him and think he's being used.

all that being said, you're right about wasting my time in here.
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October 13, 2013, 06:23:51 PM
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by about 20 gh/s, yes, and dropped temps 10 degrees Celcius

ok, i guess thats worth it.

i am kind of cautious to let it run24/7
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by about 20 gh/s, yes, and dropped temps 10 degrees Celcius

ok, i guess thats worth it.

i am kind of cautious to let it run24/7
I stood the miner on-end & set the fan right next to it...
I've actually built a case/cabinet to house all 3 saturns... no case fans... the saturn i have now has no case fans in it, they were a restriction, lol... I'll be stacking all 3 sats one on top of eachother, screwing them together, (no case tops) and the boxfan will be a giant case fan... I'll post pics of it whenever the other two sats come


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October 13, 2013, 06:30:30 PM
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by about 20 gh/s, yes, and dropped temps 10 degrees Celcius

ok, i guess thats worth it.

i am kind of cautious to let it run24/7
I stood the miner on-end & set the fan right next to it...
I've actually built a case/cabinet to house all 3 saturns... no case fans... the saturn i have now has no case fans in it, they were a restriction, lol... I'll be stacking all 3 sats one on top of eachother, screwing them together, (no case tops) and the boxfan will be a giant case fan... I'll post pics of it whenever the other two sats come

sounds interesting!
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October 13, 2013, 06:37:26 PM
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My 2centz.....
To those thinking another BBB will help their Jupiter....... WRONG
The BBB is useless without the controller board it's mounted to.


Dude why do you not understand things?  Yes the request is for a controller board to split up a jupiter into saturns and mercurys?

if you had a jupiter you could engage in this discussion. saturns and mercurys will not have the same issues


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