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September 01, 2013, 02:00:22 PM |
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4btc for 12ghs Nobody wants them.
I can afford jupiter, but it was too risky for me to buy one and pray for roi. I prefer investing in shares, jd investments, other asic hardware.
I'm not freaking surprised, all your ranting throughout this thread w.r.t. ROI for this?? KnC offer $17.5 per Gh/s. You are offering $48.33 per Gh/s! FFS!
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September 01, 2013, 02:18:46 PM |
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4btc for 12ghs Nobody wants them.
I can afford jupiter, but it was too risky for me to buy one and pray for roi. I prefer investing in shares, jd investments, other asic hardware.
I'm not freaking surprised, all your ranting throughout this thread w.r.t. ROI for this?? KnC offer $17.5 per Gh/s. You are offering $48.33 per Gh/s! FFS! Please add vat, shiping cost, psu It will be 25$ per Gh/sec in very late october I bought only 4 shares of bitfury (12GHs) just for diversification. I bought same for jupiter, 2.85 12Ghs Not the best investment lol.
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arousedrhino
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September 01, 2013, 02:23:31 PM |
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I don't buy miners in BTC, I buy them in USD. If I make more USD than I paid I have a positive return.
But you'll have more USD if you just buy the BTC and hold them. Why do you want less USD? Don't waste your time Syke. He is locked into a fiat mind-set, and doesn't understand that a miner's purpose is to generate more BTC than it cost in BTC... otherwise, just buy the BTC directly and come out way ahead. So you can easily buy $14,000 or more bitcoin on credit card? 0% interest with 1% cash back? There are more angles than you seem to present How can you buy btc with a credit card? Say I wanted to purchase $8000 in btc with my credit card, how would I go about making that purchase in the US?
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September 01, 2013, 02:30:53 PM |
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I don't buy miners in BTC, I buy them in USD. If I make more USD than I paid I have a positive return.
But you'll have more USD if you just buy the BTC and hold them. Why do you want less USD? Don't waste your time Syke. He is locked into a fiat mind-set, and doesn't understand that a miner's purpose is to generate more BTC than it cost in BTC... otherwise, just buy the BTC directly and come out way ahead. So you can easily buy $14,000 or more bitcoin on credit card? 0% interest with 1% cash back? There are more angles than you seem to present How can you buy btc with a credit card? Say I wanted to purchase $8000 in btc with my credit card, how would I go about making that purchase in the US? Buy some hot stuff on newegg/amazon Sell for btc here and bitmit
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ImI
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September 01, 2013, 02:31:23 PM |
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i am asking myself: what will happen to all those trolls once knc ships and the inverstment proves good.
will any of them have the guts to come here and admit being wrong? or will they choose the more pathetic way and just leave the thread without a word?
i regard this whole trolling and writing bullshit day in day out as extremly pathetic and wouldnt be surprised if we never see those *****`s again.
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September 01, 2013, 02:38:54 PM |
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i am asking myself: what will happen to all those trolls once knc ships and the inverstment proves good.
will any of them have the guts to come here and admit being wrong? or will they choose the more pathetic way and just leave the thread without a word?
i regard this whole trolling and writing bullshit day in day out as extremly pathetic and wouldnt be surprised if we never see those *****`s again.
I will be happy hashing 12ghs on piece of jupiter. I will come there and say that i was wrong, lol. We have september now, almost end of summer and no chips ready yet. From chips to shipping 3 weeks is world record, bfl had 30 ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If wafer will be damaged by accident it will be disaster.
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September 01, 2013, 02:46:10 PM |
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We have september now, almost end of summer and no chips ready yet.
WTF is wrong with you? Take less drugs or stop writing. Its september first!! Welcome to my ignore list!
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September 01, 2013, 03:06:14 PM |
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We have september now, almost end of summer and no chips ready yet.
WTF is wrong with you? Take less drugs or stop writing. Its september first!! Welcome to my ignore list! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) lulz ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 01, 2013, 03:09:35 PM |
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i am asking myself: what will happen to all those trolls once knc ships and the inverstment proves good.
will any of them have the guts to come here and admit being wrong? or will they choose the more pathetic way and just leave the thread without a word?
i regard this whole trolling and writing bullshit day in day out as extremly pathetic and wouldnt be surprised if we never see those *****`s again.
And if KnC doesn't ship on spec & on time? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi206.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb132%2FXx_Wild_Fire_xX%2FSouth%2520Park%2FTheBroflovski-CartmanContract.jpg&t=665&c=yrTEhkK2a8yXGQ) Have we got a deal? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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ImI
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September 01, 2013, 03:39:42 PM Last edit: September 01, 2013, 03:51:37 PM by ImI |
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i am asking myself: what will happen to all those trolls once knc ships and the inverstment proves good.
will any of them have the guts to come here and admit being wrong? or will they choose the more pathetic way and just leave the thread without a word?
i regard this whole trolling and writing bullshit day in day out as extremly pathetic and wouldnt be surprised if we never see those *****`s again.
And if KnC doesn't ship on spec & on time? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi206.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb132%2FXx_Wild_Fire_xX%2FSouth%2520Park%2FTheBroflovski-CartmanContract.jpg&t=665&c=yrTEhkK2a8yXGQ) Have we got a deal? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I didnt say " ship on spec & on time", i said that the "investment prooves good". And i measure this of course in BTCs. If this investment prooves wrong you can bet your ass that its going to be discussed here. But otherwise i dont expect to see any of you idiots to come here after KNC has shipped. And THATS what makes it so pathetic! Edit: Nevertheless i like that gif. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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September 01, 2013, 03:48:58 PM |
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Adjust that to 450 from 400 and things change radically (and the way KnC are talking we could be seeing closer to 500). That's looking like it may be the real picture. I'd say although you may need the money you'd be wise to think hard about jumping ship when exchange rates and hash rate of the rigs could rise and the projected difficulty shown on that calculator are so pessimistic long term (see many wise posts about the unlikelyhood of it rising so much ).
We're always exposed to difficulty risks, it's a risky game to play. Even buying BTC could wipe you out. That's why the rewards can be so good.
KNC wrote: "greater than 30% performance increase " that is more than 520 for a jupiter. It's strange to me that this announcement was almost completely ignored here! Performance of CGMiner doesn't necessarily translate into more GH/s. It could be related to how hard the internal Linux controller has to work running CGMiner. This doesn't necessarily mean that it results in more GH/s from the system. Also, if it does, this may have been why it went up to 400 GH/s in the first place.
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September 01, 2013, 04:03:54 PM |
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untill now knc have delay because no real photo of chips and only a word that he will sent at end of will be ready
knc will be out of time for sure
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September 01, 2013, 04:07:17 PM |
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untill now knc have delay because no real photo of chips and only a word that he will sent at end of will be ready
knc will be out of time for sure
hi jelin, may i ask which country you are from?
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Templer
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September 01, 2013, 04:08:26 PM Last edit: September 01, 2013, 04:23:10 PM by Templer |
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untill now knc have delay because no real photo of chips and only a word that he will sent at end of will be ready
knc will be out of time for sure
Are you a f***ing poet?! Aaaaand welcome to my ignore list. Edit: I think he lives at retard Island^^
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The Avenger
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September 01, 2013, 04:59:26 PM |
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KNC just have to hold out for about 3 more weeks, make sure nothing happens that causes a mass stampede for refunds. Once they ship their first unit, there is no going back - they are millionaires. Can you imagine what it is like? If Sam or anyone is a drinker, they must be hitting the bottle big-time right now to steady the nerves!
They will sell any miners left after the pre-orders are out the door. If no one wants them at that price, they'll sell them at reduced price to shift them. They've already added a clause saying that they will continue to sell through Dec, Jan etc if other companies add lots of to the hash power to the network (which is what is happening). They aren't going to hold on to equipment that will be redundant and no one wants in 4 months time.
I wouldn't be surprised if they retire and get out of the game after that. They are obviously gamblers, but they aren't stupid. It looks like their gamble will pay off, but probably not for their customers who gave them the free loan of millions (pre-orders).
It's a funny old world.
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Phoenix1969
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September 01, 2013, 05:07:42 PM |
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4btc for 12ghs Nobody wants them.
I can afford jupiter, but it was too risky for me to buy one and pray for roi. I prefer investing in shares, jd investments, other asic hardware.
You could afford a Jupiter, yet you bought shares of a 5xxx order? Wow, I guess some folks are just used to sharing their Big Mac.
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Phoenix1969
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September 01, 2013, 05:08:43 PM |
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Adjust that to 450 from 400 and things change radically (and the way KnC are talking we could be seeing closer to 500). That's looking like it may be the real picture. I'd say although you may need the money you'd be wise to think hard about jumping ship when exchange rates and hash rate of the rigs could rise and the projected difficulty shown on that calculator are so pessimistic long term (see many wise posts about the unlikelyhood of it rising so much ).
We're always exposed to difficulty risks, it's a risky game to play. Even buying BTC could wipe you out. That's why the rewards can be so good.
KNC wrote: "greater than 30% performance increase " that is more than 520 for a jupiter. It's strange to me that this announcement was almost completely ignored here! Performance of CGMiner doesn't necessarily translate into more GH/s. It could be related to how hard the internal Linux controller has to work running CGMiner. This doesn't necessarily mean that it results in more GH/s from the system. Also, if it does, this may have been why it went up to 400 GH/s in the first place. I call BULLSHIT on that; Pure & simple. If that's what you think they meant, you may want to see a doctor. "Justanick is correct in his thinking"
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Templer
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September 01, 2013, 05:19:44 PM |
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From kncminer.cn and google translator ( http://kncminer.cn/lucky-draw/ ): Never want (Lucky draw) Back to home never want (Lucky draw) Never want! Won by KnC Minerals mined value of up to 4999 yuan in BTC! [include the banner on this page] Now shipped to China to be won by the first stage KnC Mercury mining machine ( http://kncminer.cn/mercury/) mined 4,999 yuan worth of BTC! Award by one person exclusively. Announced moments, in October! How to participate in the drawing? Join BTCChina.com transactions instantly, regardless to buy or sell, the transaction for every $ 10, you can obtain a lucky draw. We will be October 16, 2013 in Shanghai, announced the final winners. KnCMiner.cn responsible for hosting the machine and the prize BTC directly into your wallet!
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Bitcoinorama
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September 01, 2013, 05:27:49 PM |
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Adjust that to 450 from 400 and things change radically (and the way KnC are talking we could be seeing closer to 500). That's looking like it may be the real picture. I'd say although you may need the money you'd be wise to think hard about jumping ship when exchange rates and hash rate of the rigs could rise and the projected difficulty shown on that calculator are so pessimistic long term (see many wise posts about the unlikelyhood of it rising so much ).
We're always exposed to difficulty risks, it's a risky game to play. Even buying BTC could wipe you out. That's why the rewards can be so good.
KNC wrote: "greater than 30% performance increase " that is more than 520 for a jupiter. It's strange to me that this announcement was almost completely ignored here! Performance of CGMiner doesn't necessarily translate into more GH/s. It could be related to how hard the internal Linux controller has to work running CGMiner. This doesn't necessarily mean that it results in more GH/s from the system. Also, if it does, this may have been why it went up to 400 GH/s in the first place. I call BULLSHIT on that; Pure & simple. If that's what you think they meant, you may want to see a doctor. "Justanick is correct in his thinking" Hold the phone, I think rolling has a point there, whilst I believe we will see improvements translate to that order, I believe this particular 30% refers to software optimisation and efficiency. Whether that correlates to physical performance is yet to be seen.
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September 01, 2013, 05:29:49 PM |
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Come On knc protect the network with stop delivered miner at December and leave the other companies to f... The network
In november jupiter will earn 30%, then 15%, 7, 3.5, 1.5 and you will turn off. Or worse. No one wants buy my bitfury shares and knc shares (september ones) People are not stupid People may not be, but you surely are. Yes i am stupid, i bought jupiter shares from order 5x All of this doom and gloom coming from someone that can't afford a full jupiter. You must really hate the fact that other people are buying miners and somehow you think you illogical conclusions and constant spamming on this forum is going to slow/stop/make them get a refund? Well let me help you out with the answer to that. it won't. I already have 15 paid orders on my Reseller link and 29 Unpaid. That's just me, people are still buying these machines and I doubt anything you will say (especially with your extensive jupiter share collection) will do anything about that. That's good going on referals ..free rig for you at least. How the hell did you manage that? lol Forgot to ask what I posted for...do you have an order number for the freebie at all? To give a rough idea of numbers so far? I'm wondering how anyone can say KnC are "late" when their delivery date is weeks away still? For me they are late mid october or after then, for early orders it's late september.
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