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November 20, 2013, 12:02:28 AM
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I just got off the phone with UPS. The lady told me that the shipment is very (very) unlikely to be delivered today (Germany) and I shall take this up with KNC (which I just did). The sender is the only one able to get UPS to investigate the issue. She said it seems the paperwork got shipped but the actual boxes were left behind.

It's sad that KNC has not already responded to the issue (it's noon in Sweden). Their decision to not sending the upgrades out Friday will result in half a week of lost mining. All I can say to this (from the bottom of my heart) is: Thank you SO much KNC. You really, REALLY rock. This is by far the fairest solution for all miners.

Totally unrelated: Congrats to those who decided not to trust KNC with the delivery and pick the boards up locally. I should have done the same.

Yep, that plane ticket to Stockholm - best purchase ever  Grin
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I just got off the phone with UPS. The lady told me that the shipment is very (very) unlikely to be delivered today (Germany) and I shall take this up with KNC (which I just did). The sender is the only one able to get UPS to investigate the issue. She said it seems the paperwork got shipped but the actual boxes were left behind.

It's sad that KNC has not already responded to the issue (it's noon in Sweden). Their decision to not sending the upgrades out Friday will result in half a week of lost mining. All I can say to this (from the bottom of my heart) is: Thank you SO much KNC. You really, REALLY rock. This is by far the fairest solution for all miners.

Totally unrelated: Congrats to those who decided not to trust KNC with the delivery and pick the boards up locally. I should have done the same.

Because this is KnC's fault, how?! ALL boxes were collected by UPS yesterday. They took them all in plastic packaging crates. UPS arrived here at 4pm. The boxes were ready, so no delay from us whatsoever.

I can confirm this. Saw them leaving by the hundreds with at least 3 UPS guys and many plastic boxes Grin
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November 20, 2013, 12:04:50 AM
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For anything related to politics, that was pretty interesting.

Basically, they don't want bitcoin to be used to fund terrorism or buy drugs.

Otherwise, they seemed quite interested in it's potential for innovation.

You need to read between the lines.   What i took from it was..  It's fine as long as we have a the right to cease funds, and every exchange muh collect personal details, same as a bank.  

I guess people only heard what they wanted to here!  crypto will carry on regardless
What I got "Between the lines" Is that they want traceability, and identity; they were promised that....end of story.
Look for a huge jump in BTC price now! Wow.


So they want traceability.  Now that's fair enough, but that then makes my bitcoin have a little more in common with my credit card.

Lets be honest the anonymity of crypto is the main selling point.

But regardless back on topic!


Not even close to the main selling point and not as anonymous as you think.
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November 20, 2013, 12:04:56 AM
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@Bitcoinorama, any idea on when KNC will open up orders again?

enjoy your miner and give KnC a breath  Cheesy
...they not even have started production for November batch as far as I know

so arise this question in early Feb again I'd say
ok, maybe they surprise us in the meantime with an altcoin miner, but I can't see how it could make sense to think about 'how to price a miner in March' right now while there is so much pre-ordered hardware queued (HF, Cointerra, Bitmine, ...)

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November 20, 2013, 12:06:38 AM
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I can confirm this. Saw them leaving by the hundreds with at least 3 UPS guys and many plastic boxes
And this is when your crew jumped them with semi automatics and hijacked the UPS van?  Grin

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November 20, 2013, 12:12:20 AM
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My prediction no more miner sales. Just chips, maybe pcbs. Its the route all chip makers are and have went after tape out/deliveries.

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November 20, 2013, 12:45:26 AM
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**too much air on the VRM's will shut some down....
just be aware of that.
sweet lookin' setup btw...  Wink

from the MDT040A0X docs.
Wide operating temperature range [-40°C to105°C]

I don't think you know what you are talking about.
But thx for appreciating the aesthetics.



well imho the Jupiter 1st order units are "interesting" Phonex's unit for example runs better "hot" 60c or above...I have a unit where my cores are 30c 31c 38c and 40c ..if they get in the 50's range I lose hash

ie we are completely oppisite on how we get extra GH

we also both have I think some of the better running units

so..that is where he was coming from...the posts from my experiences and his experiences and others on the forum...it may vary greatly..

also he is in hawaii and mine is in a 62F basement wating for winter.....I also have the cover off and 2 5" menard's fans blowing from either side of the front crossways across the unit....if i shut one fan off i lose hash ..i turn of both i lose more hash...kinda a clue that the temps matter on my unit..oppisite thou they be from phoenix's units

go figure

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November 20, 2013, 12:55:44 AM
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**too much air on the VRM's will shut some down....
just be aware of that.
sweet lookin' setup btw...  Wink

from the MDT040A0X docs.
Wide operating temperature range [-40°C to105°C]

I don't think you know what you are talking about.
But thx for appreciating the aesthetics.



well imho the Jupiter 1st order units are "interesting" Phonex's unit for example runs better "hot" 60c or above...I have a unit where my cores are 30c 31c 38c and 40c ..if they get in the 50's range I lose hash

ie we are completely oppisite on how we get extra GH

we also both have I think some of the better running units

so..that is where he was coming from...the posts from my experiences and his experiences and others on the forum...it may vary greatly..

also he is in hawaii and mine is in a 62F basement wating for winter.....I also have the cover off and 2 5" menard's fans blowing from either side of the front crossways across the unit....if i shut one fan off i lose hash ..i turn of both i lose more hash...kinda a clue that the temps matter on my unit..oppisite thou they be from phoenix's units

go figure

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Out of interest how hot have yours peaked at?
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November 20, 2013, 01:01:47 AM
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**too much air on the VRM's will shut some down....
just be aware of that.
sweet lookin' setup btw...  Wink

from the MDT040A0X docs.
Wide operating temperature range [-40°C to105°C]

I don't think you know what you are talking about.
But thx for appreciating the aesthetics.



well imho the Jupiter 1st order units are "interesting" Phonex's unit for example runs better "hot" 60c or above...I have a unit where my cores are 30c 31c 38c and 40c ..if they get in the 50's range I lose hash

ie we are completely oppisite on how we get extra GH

we also both have I think some of the better running units

so..that is where he was coming from...the posts from my experiences and his experiences and others on the forum...it may vary greatly..

also he is in hawaii and mine is in a 62F basement wating for winter.....I also have the cover off and 2 5" menard's fans blowing from either side of the front crossways across the unit....if i shut one fan off i lose hash ..i turn of both i lose more hash...kinda a clue that the temps matter on my unit..oppisite thou they be from phoenix's units

go figure

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Out of interest how hot have yours peaked at?

in the basement scenario at 62F which is more or less stable and cover off fans etc...I think the hottest I've seen them is 48c before I got the fans ...now at around 40c or maybe 41c is my hottest.....they we're hotter with the .99 upgrade but adjusted the fans some the outside ones blowing crossways

my basement will probably always be around 62F so prob this is as low as I can go cooling wise

also I'm in a dry winter basement 62F Phoneix's unit which I think acts opposite then mine is in Hawaii ...could just plain Humidity diff be the reason for this ...it would be very large imho

anyway...whatever floats the boat

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November 20, 2013, 01:03:46 AM
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HEY.....where did you get the cool decals..mine is as plain as a baby's butt.....(I also only have one piece of foam on the top of one of my heat sinks missing the other 3 foam pieces.....)


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November 20, 2013, 01:07:20 AM
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**too much air on the VRM's will shut some down....
just be aware of that.
sweet lookin' setup btw...  Wink

from the MDT040A0X docs.
Wide operating temperature range [-40°C to105°C]

I don't think you know what you are talking about.
But thx for appreciating the aesthetics.


whatever...  okay....cool away....
it was only posted like a dozen times by different folks, but I guess I'm wrong.

The amount of folks and the amount of times posted does not trump physics.

I could be wrong, I don't claim otherwise, you do.

What if the fix is reduced output from the VRM's when they are over 75C?
If so, it might be possible to back them off in software, without the heat gun.

The VRM's on my boards are running ~75C when I have the ghetto cardboard air tunnel removed.

The docs say to expect a drop in output near this temperature.

http://www.lineagepower.com/oem/pdf/MDT040A0X.pdf

top right page 7 (@0.6V)  &  page 8 (@ 1.2V)
guestimate between them for 0.9V


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November 20, 2013, 01:12:40 AM
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Agree, Water is the choice for thermal reasons alone.

I wonder if anyone has ever tried this stuff in a PC/miner liquid cooling system to increase its performance:

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=74&pcid=10

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November 20, 2013, 01:27:12 AM
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Hi LiqCooling Cowboys!

Whats about your hashrates, temp, hw errors and so on,
if you give green light then i will cool it too liquid.


I figured out that:


Different Temps on different AsicBoard has different amount of HW errors.

When i think about this situation above in the pic, then i need an Cooling Fan System with external
thermalsensor, or somthing to increase and decrease the speed of the fans.

I have on Asic_3 one original fan repalced with an highspeed corsair fan = blow air
and on the other side of the cooler two 120 mm fans which are sucking the air.

Also on top of all this one:

each time you send a transaction don't forget to use a new address, each time you receive one also!
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November 20, 2013, 01:30:22 AM
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Hi LiqCooling Cowboys!

Whats about your hashrates, temp, hw errors and so on,
if you give green light then i will cool it too liquid.


I figured out that:


Different Temps on different AsicBoard has different amount of HW errors.

Wow these are some cool temps. Especially the 1st one.
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November 20, 2013, 01:31:03 AM
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HEY.....where did you get the cool decals..mine is as plain as a baby's butt.....(I also only have one piece of foam on the top of one of my heat sinks missing the other 3 foam pieces.....)


the fiends


very pretty....

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Got them in Stockholm.
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November 20, 2013, 01:36:18 AM
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Hi LiqCooling Cowboys!

Whats about your hashrates, temp, hw errors and so on,
if you give green light then i will cool it too liquid.


I figured out that:


Different Temps on different AsicBoard has different amount of HW errors.

Wow these are some cool temps. Especially the 1st one.

I HAVE NO liquid cooling

each time you send a transaction don't forget to use a new address, each time you receive one also!
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November 20, 2013, 02:00:07 AM
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On the fedex/ups talks, I use both regularly. UPS never fails me for normal deliveries or even 2nd-day or same day air. FedEx next day and same day air is also good.

However, normal ground deliveries? FedEx blows.

I know it's not a consolation, but I ordered a curtain rod last week and used FedEx. The shipment came from one state, passed by my house, went to another state, went back past my state, and then got left in a fedex courier facility where it's sat for 4 days.

They're still trying to assess the issue.

The issue was I used FedEx.
A couple years ago, I went into a fedex office to check pricing for a package to xyz, since I was in their neighborhood.

They handed me a triplicate form with a gazillion lines on it and told me to fill it out.  ER, you can't give me a price quote until I take 20 minutes out of my life?Huh  Goodbye & good riddens. Haven't been back since.

What a great business model, the CEO must've gone to a govt funded university.  WOW/// 
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November 20, 2013, 02:42:15 AM
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HEY.....where did you get the cool decals..mine is as plain as a baby's butt.....(I also only have one piece of foam on the top of one of my heat sinks missing the other 3 foam pieces.....)


the fiends


very pretty....

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I notice in this and in another photo the rears are almost abutting the wall.  VRMs do get hot and their heat effects the modules.  I put a piece of cardboard between the VRMs and the module and flow air in a tunnel - easy it's a Merc and only a single module so cardboard on the outside of the PCB making the tunnel, the air passes over the VRMs and out the back - being kept sequestered from the module as it were, in addition to the Arctic Freezer w/fan.  When the extra module gets here it will go behind the first as my power supplies will be on the left.  I will probably mount two 2" diag 12v fans on the board blowing right toward the VRMs and perhaps a 120mm fan to the back behind the added module pulling air out.
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HEY.....where did you get the cool decals..mine is as plain as a baby's butt.....(I also only have one piece of foam on the top of one of my heat sinks missing the other 3 foam pieces.....)


the fiends


very pretty....

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I notice in this and in another photo the rears are almost abutting the wall.  VRMs do get hot and their heat effects the modules.  I put a piece of cardboard between the VRMs and the module and flow air in a tunnel - easy it's a Merc and only a single module so cardboard on the outside of the PCB making the tunnel, the air passes over the VRMs and out the back - being kept sequestered from the module as it were, in addition to the Arctic Freezer w/fan.  When the extra module gets here it will go behind the first as my power supplies will be on the left.  I will probably mount two 2" diag 12v fans on the board blowing right toward the VRMs and perhaps a 120mm fan to the back behind the added module pulling air out.

It's a skewed perspective. I just measured the distance and there is 17cm between the miners and the wall.
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HEY.....where did you get the cool decals..mine is as plain as a baby's butt.....(I also only have one piece of foam on the top of one of my heat sinks missing the other 3 foam pieces.....)


the fiends


very pretty....

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I notice in this and in another photo the rears are almost abutting the wall.  VRMs do get hot and their heat effects the modules.  I put a piece of cardboard between the VRMs and the module and flow air in a tunnel - easy it's a Merc and only a single module so cardboard on the outside of the PCB making the tunnel, the air passes over the VRMs and out the back - being kept sequestered from the module as it were, in addition to the Arctic Freezer w/fan.  When the extra module gets here it will go behind the first as my power supplies will be on the left.  I will probably mount two 2" diag 12v fans on the board blowing right toward the VRMs and perhaps a 120mm fan to the back behind the added module pulling air out.

It's a skewed perspective. I just measured the distance and there is 17cm between the miners and the wall.

Well, if you think 3/4" is enough....
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