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October 20, 2011, 03:57:00 PM
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sadpanda: This two-line solution was meant as a reaction to eleuth saying that fast reconnecting miners can DoS the pool.
I'm afraid that dealing with zombiemining is way harder ...

Another partial solution to DDoS screening would be pretty much what you suggest - TCP Syncookie like system - which i'm afraid, miners would have to support. This still gets me back to the idea that biggest pool operators should unite (they all seem reasonable guys) and set some kind of standard for miners which they all will enforce. Pretty much the way internet RFCs work - there is no 'legal' enforcing, but if you want to connect to common sites, you have to abide, because that's what most expect ...

  Definetly agree on the TCP syn system..  But the 2 line solution would be effective for both Zombie mining, and most asuredly zombie port slapping. At the very basics, I would assume the zombies that are straight port dossing would have much differnt packet size, structure, etc than legit getwork responses. I don't see how a forced ID on workers would not solve that. I.e. only packets that came into the port with said ID attached would be allowed. All others would be /nulled.

  Mind you, I have not had to deal with custom built filtering solutions for some years now so am not abreast to how slack that has become with modern upstreams making it harder, or hosting services more complacent with upstreams offering 'pre-built' filtering packages for sale, etc. Back in my day we had much easier access to our upstream sides to deploy custom measures for such things...... Just one more example of 'Big Business Protection' measures screwing over the lil guy with current models, imho....


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October 20, 2011, 04:01:47 PM
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I received my bitcoins from my account with more than 60+ confirmations.
But not name coins.
I hope others too got their bitcoins.
All others namecoins also not received?

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October 20, 2011, 04:08:28 PM
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All others namecoins also not received?

I didn't process all payments yet; I was waiting untill all blocks mature, which happen before few hours. I'll pay out also namecoins, of course.

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October 20, 2011, 04:23:40 PM
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I hope you find a way to come back from this Slush as I did like mining withat your pool. I've move over to Ars for now but it will take some to get used too. I keep tabs on this thread to see when your back up and running. Smiley
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October 20, 2011, 04:48:58 PM
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I keep tabs on this thread to see when your back up and running. Smiley

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October 20, 2011, 04:55:40 PM
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I keep tabs on this thread to see when your back up and running. Smiley

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October 20, 2011, 05:18:28 PM
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Slush... I have an idea...

Soooo...

Basically, you have a problem with public addresses for your pool.

If only you could ensure that no one knew how to find your pool unless they had trust... you could just use a static IP and have people mine there.

Here is one REALLY good litmus to determine whether or not a user should have trust... hashing.

If you pull from your DB of users, those who have hashed over a certain amount in the last couple weeks for instance... you could tell with a degree of certainty that these are all trusted people.

So... then you email all those users (I would be one of these people)...

Just email a private ip for the server to those users... or perhaps a domain name whatever... just something you don't post on here.

Sure, you'll lose a lot of hashing power, but it would let you continue to operate.  I liked mining with your pool, I was doing quite well.

That way maybe you can operate in the short term as a private pool using trusted participants.

The reason I do not suggest that you allow ALL miners that have been working to get the address is that quite likely, your attackers have been mining the pools somewhat to ensure they were functionally down.
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October 20, 2011, 05:53:13 PM
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Slush... I have an idea...

Soooo...

Basically, you have a problem with public addresses for your pool.

If only you could ensure that no one knew how to find your pool unless they had trust... you could just use a static IP and have people mine there.

Here is one REALLY good litmus to determine whether or not a user should have trust... hashing.

If you pull from your DB of users, those who have hashed over a certain amount in the last couple weeks for instance... you could tell with a degree of certainty that these are all trusted people.

So... then you email all those users (I would be one of these people)...

Just email a private ip for the server to those users... or perhaps a domain name whatever... just something you don't post on here.

Sure, you'll lose a lot of hashing power, but it would let you continue to operate.  I liked mining with your pool, I was doing quite well.

That way maybe you can operate in the short term as a private pool using trusted participants.

The reason I do not suggest that you allow ALL miners that have been working to get the address is that quite likely, your attackers have been mining the pools somewhat to ensure they were functionally down.

And, if the bot net owner has an actual miner or two of their own? What then?

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October 20, 2011, 06:24:53 PM
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Slush... I have an idea...

Soooo...

Basically, you have a problem with public addresses for your pool.

If only you could ensure that no one knew how to find your pool unless they had trust... you could just use a static IP and have people mine there.

Here is one REALLY good litmus to determine whether or not a user should have trust... hashing.

If you pull from your DB of users, those who have hashed over a certain amount in the last couple weeks for instance... you could tell with a degree of certainty that these are all trusted people.

So... then you email all those users (I would be one of these people)...

Just email a private ip for the server to those users... or perhaps a domain name whatever... just something you don't post on here.

Sure, you'll lose a lot of hashing power, but it would let you continue to operate.  I liked mining with your pool, I was doing quite well.

That way maybe you can operate in the short term as a private pool using trusted participants.

The reason I do not suggest that you allow ALL miners that have been working to get the address is that quite likely, your attackers have been mining the pools somewhat to ensure they were functionally down.

And, if the bot net owner has an actual miner or two of their own? What then?

^ This.
Also, the internet's reputation for keeping secrets is "not too good". *snicker*

Why the frell so many retards spell "ect" as an abbreviation of "Et Cetera"? "ETC", DAMMIT! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_cetera

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October 20, 2011, 06:25:24 PM
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If you pull from your DB of users, those who have hashed over a certain amount in the last couple weeks for instance... you could tell with a degree of certainty that these are all trusted people.

So... then you email all those users (I would be one of these people)...

Just email a private ip for the server to those users... or perhaps a domain name whatever... just something you don't post on here.
Botnets can mine at like 80-100 GH/s if they want I think. It is just terribly inefficient. But they don't care because they aren't paying for electricity or the pipes. So you might send out an email to the botnet because they could be one of your fastest miners?
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October 20, 2011, 06:36:47 PM
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Botnet owners don't even need to get that e-mail. Someone will just post here "Hey, I just got an e-mail with this IP: ***".

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October 20, 2011, 06:39:30 PM
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You back up for good?  Or is this a temporary thing?

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October 20, 2011, 06:40:37 PM
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longest round I have ever seen...   Wink

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October 20, 2011, 06:54:27 PM
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Yes, longest round on my pool ever, but we're up again :-).

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October 20, 2011, 07:03:08 PM
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w00t, thanks slush!

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October 20, 2011, 07:18:52 PM
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Slush: so happy to see you alive and kicking my old friend, I will bring my miners over and help solve this block Smiley (I just hope you stay alive)
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October 20, 2011, 07:28:12 PM
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I just hope you stay alive

Me too Smiley

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October 20, 2011, 07:28:42 PM
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Awesome! already switched my miners back over Smiley

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October 20, 2011, 08:11:37 PM
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Yeah, I hope everyone comes back to Slush -- otherwise I'm going to have more work ahead of me to set all my miners to use a different primary pool.
Right now they're all stuck on Slush's pool since it's the primary, with its 697 GH/s.
The current block is at 3 hours 55 minutes and counting...
If more people don't return I'm going to have to switch pools.

Slush, is it likely that the problem is actually fixed permanently? Did you "do anything" or did the DDoS just take a break?
If you really believe in your pool still, we need to let people know that so they return.
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October 20, 2011, 08:19:50 PM
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Me too, because one of my sites is suffering a pretty severe DDoS attack right now and I need somewhere to send the traffic to once I update my DNS records......

What was your pool's IP again ?  Roll Eyes

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