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Author Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool  (Read 4372821 times)
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November 07, 2011, 06:12:58 PM
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NMC payouts fixed, it was stupid issue. Namecoin timed out during sending payouts for some unknown reason, which stops automatic payouts and need manual investigation from my side. However I forgot to setup alert for namecoind daemon (it was only for bitcoin daemon) for this issue on new server so I missed that problem in monitoring. Now they're sent and monitoring fixed.

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November 07, 2011, 06:17:34 PM
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no, I just didnt post the three sentences that should've went before or after these.
what i meant was that slush seems to be paying out okay, but the NMC never appeared in my bitparking thingy.
Bitparking addresses are only valid for one use i belive

Yes, it's pretty stupid, bitparking cannot be used for pool payouts - or you need to change address everytime you receive email about payout. Btw if you click in Transaction history to NMC address, you'll see NMC block explorer. If payout is listed there, then it's out of the pool.

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November 07, 2011, 06:28:23 PM
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i have a payout not showing up since the 5th.
wrote the bitparking admin, waiting for response.

Bitparking? I think you have the wrong topic.


no, I just didnt post the three sentences that should've went before or after these.
what i meant was that slush seems to be paying out okay, but the NMC never appeared in my bitparking thingy.


I hope you didn't set your slush pool payouts to go directly to bitparking.  For whatever asinine reason, bitparking has decided that each deposit address can only be used ONCE.  If you sent coins to the same address 2+ times you lost the 2nd and subsequent transfers.  If you want to use bitparking safely you need to setup a local wallet, and have pool (slush or any other pool) transfer to your local wallet and then go to bitparking request a one-time deposit address and then make a one-time transfer from your local wallet to bitparking.  You will need to do this on every single transfer.

I got so annoyed at bitparking for this stupid (and utterly pointless) way of handling deposits I went to BTC-E.  Once you make a NMC deposit that is your deposit address for life.  Now I just deposit directly to BTC-E.
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November 07, 2011, 07:33:52 PM
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i have a payout not showing up since the 5th.
wrote the bitparking admin, waiting for response.

Bitparking? I think you have the wrong topic.


no, I just didnt post the three sentences that should've went before or after these.
what i meant was that slush seems to be paying out okay, but the NMC never appeared in my bitparking thingy.


I hope you didn't set your slush pool payouts to go directly to bitparking.  For whatever asinine reason, bitparking has decided that each deposit address can only be used ONCE.  If you sent coins to the same address 2+ times you lost the 2nd and subsequent transfers.  If you want to use bitparking safely you need to setup a local wallet, and have pool (slush or any other pool) transfer to your local wallet and then go to bitparking request a one-time deposit address and then make a one-time transfer from your local wallet to bitparking.  You will need to do this on every single transfer.

I got so annoyed at bitparking for this stupid (and utterly pointless) way of handling deposits I went to BTC-E.  Once you make a NMC deposit that is your deposit address for life.  Now I just deposit directly to BTC-E.


WTF

seriously.

that mustve coste me (and others) quite a bundle.
are these NMC lost now, or just in limbo?

cheers
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November 07, 2011, 07:45:23 PM
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champion proportional pay if you must

bottom line:
If you not hashing fast enough at some point the rate of declineing payoff will exceed the shares your miner can submit and you loose to the big boys (especially when's hard to find a share)

proportional is a crap shoot - was the share you sent "Lucky"
if the pool lasts another 15 min it was worthless

you are better off with a pay per share pool at the end of the day
Waiting for confirmations just to see block invaid -- thats hardly instant payout
and name coin's (pooled mining) for the small guy is just a BAD joke

I jumped back to slush for a few hours today
Guess what less pay than deepbit's paypershare

I'm moving - all you fanboys can do what you want
thanks for the ride

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November 07, 2011, 07:49:47 PM
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I jumped back to slush for a few hours today
Guess what less pay than deepbit's paypershare

Idiot.  

Alternate version:
"I would rather take a guaranteed 10% loss on EVERY SINGLE SHARE over my lifetime rather take the risk of occasionally getting the rare invalid or long block".
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November 07, 2011, 07:51:56 PM
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champion proportional pay if you must

bottom line:
If you not hashing fast enough at some point the rate of declineing payoff will exceed the shares your miner can submit and you loose to the big boys (especially when's hard to find a share)

proportional is a crap shoot - was the share you sent "Lucky"
if the pool lasts another 15 min it was worthless

you are better off with a pay per share pool at the end of the day
Waiting for confirmations just to see block invaid -- thats hardly instant payout
and name coin's (pooled mining) for the small guy is just a BAD joke

I jumped back to slush for a few hours today
Guess what less pay than deepbit's paypershare

I'm moving - all you fanboys can do what you want
thanks for the ride

I don't even see the point of posting this.  Just a waste of time.  Or maybe trying to get a little flame going...

If I help you out: 17QatvSdciyv2zsdAbphDEUzST1S6x46c3
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November 07, 2011, 08:20:58 PM
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champion proportional pay if you must

bottom line:
If you not hashing fast enough at some point the rate of declineing payoff will exceed the shares your miner can submit and you loose to the big boys (especially when's hard to find a share)

proportional is a crap shoot - was the share you sent "Lucky"
if the pool lasts another 15 min it was worthless

you are better off with a pay per share pool at the end of the day
Waiting for confirmations just to see block invaid -- thats hardly instant payout
and name coin's (pooled mining) for the small guy is just a BAD joke

I jumped back to slush for a few hours today
Guess what less pay than deepbit's paypershare

I'm moving - all you fanboys can do what you want
thanks for the ride

I don't even see the point of posting this.  Just a waste of time.  Or maybe trying to get a little flame going...

If you don't see the point it's your loss
mine here & loose

Please "Clear your browser cookies" then use http://bitcoinpyramid.com/r/3360 to Join BitCoin Pyramid
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November 07, 2011, 08:23:16 PM
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If you don't see the point it's your loss mine here & loose

NO possible way to lose more than the Deepbit PPS scheme.  It is for fools and their money.  I mean any other pool would be better.  A 10% loss on every share.  No possible way to make up for that.
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November 07, 2011, 08:28:13 PM
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champion proportional pay if you must

bottom line:
If you not hashing fast enough at some point the rate of declineing payoff will exceed the shares your miner can submit and you loose to the big boys (especially when's hard to find a share)

proportional is a crap shoot - was the share you sent "Lucky"
if the pool lasts another 15 min it was worthless

you are better off with a pay per share pool at the end of the day
Waiting for confirmations just to see block invaid -- thats hardly instant payout
and name coin's (pooled mining) for the small guy is just a BAD joke

I jumped back to slush for a few hours today
Guess what less pay than deepbit's paypershare

I'm moving - all you fanboys can do what you want
thanks for the ride

I don't even see the point of posting this.  Just a waste of time.  Or maybe trying to get a little flame going...

If you don't see the point it's your loss
mine here & loose

Not my loss, my gain.  When I mine, I set my miners and forget them.   I don't touch 'em every day or hop around whatsoever.  I've gone to all the major pools and tested them out for a minimum of a week straight.  And I'm @ slush right now because it paid the best overall and over time.  Period.

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November 07, 2011, 08:53:27 PM
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If you don't see the point it's your loss mine here & loose

NO possible way to lose more than the Deepbit PPS scheme.  It is for fools and their money.  I mean any other pool would be better.  A 10% loss on every share.  No possible way to make up for that.

well so much for you
my miners are slow and I do better on deepbit with pay per share

How much do you loose here

I mined here for a LOONG time... getting less and less
us little miners are getting screwed
Sorry to you fan boys Thats the way it is

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November 07, 2011, 09:23:21 PM
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IMHO I mined on both Deepbit and Slush but I found that the deepbit fee is too much and I was getting better luck with slush Smiley
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November 07, 2011, 09:46:45 PM
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champion proportional pay if you must

bottom line:
If you not hashing fast enough at some point the rate of declineing payoff will exceed the shares your miner can submit and you loose to the big boys (especially when's hard to find a share)

proportional is a crap shoot - was the share you sent "Lucky"
if the pool lasts another 15 min it was worthless

you are better off with a pay per share pool at the end of the day
Waiting for confirmations just to see block invaid -- thats hardly instant payout
and name coin's (pooled mining) for the small guy is just a BAD joke

I jumped back to slush for a few hours today
Guess what less pay than deepbit's paypershare

I'm moving - all you fanboys can do what you want
thanks for the ride

I don't even see the point of posting this.  Just a waste of time.  Or maybe trying to get a little flame going...

If you don't see the point it's your loss
mine here & loose

Not my loss, my gain.  When I mine, I set my miners and forget them.   I don't touch 'em every day or hop around whatsoever.  I've gone to all the major pools and tested them out for a minimum of a week straight.  And I'm @ slush right now because it paid the best overall and over time.  Period.

same as digital

https://www.buytrezor.com?a=55c37b866c11   well sir, I like it!
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November 07, 2011, 10:25:52 PM
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If you don't see the point it's your loss mine here & loose

NO possible way to lose more than the Deepbit PPS scheme.  It is for fools and their money.  I mean any other pool would be better.  A 10% loss on every share.  No possible way to make up for that.

well so much for you
my miners are slow and I do better on deepbit with pay per share

How much do you loose here

I mined here for a LOONG time... getting less and less
us little miners are getting screwed
Sorry to you fan boys Thats the way it is


I guess since you mine at Deepbit that makes you a Deepbit fanboy...

If that's all there is too it, then I guess I am a slush fanboy.

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November 07, 2011, 10:54:46 PM
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If you don't see the point it's your loss mine here & loose

NO possible way to lose more than the Deepbit PPS scheme.  It is for fools and their money.  I mean any other pool would be better.  A 10% loss on every share.  No possible way to make up for that.

well so much for you
my miners are slow and I do better on deepbit with pay per share

How much do you loose here

I mined here for a LOONG time... getting less and less
us little miners are getting screwed
Sorry to you fan boys Thats the way it is


I guess since you mine at Deepbit that makes you a Deepbit fanboy...

If that's all there is too it, then I guess I am a slush fanboy.

Why does nobody become a p2pool fanboy Tongue
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November 07, 2011, 11:13:50 PM
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Why does nobody become a p2pool fanboy Tongue

Because the people mining on Deepbit can't figure out how to install it Smiley

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November 08, 2011, 12:07:51 AM
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bottom line:
If you not hashing fast enough at some point the rate of declineing payoff will exceed the shares your miner can submit and you loose to the big boys (especially when's hard to find a share)

You are quite wrong about that because you misunderstand how a proportional pool works.

You will get less variance with a PPS pool but a lower average payout. PPS pools need to give you a lower average payout by design as they are covering the variance.

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bottom line:
If you not hashing fast enough at some point the rate of declineing payoff will exceed the shares your miner can submit and you loose to the big boys (especially when's hard to find a share)

You are quite wrong about that because you misunderstand how a proportional pool works.

You will get less variance with a PPS pool but a lower average payout. PPS pools need to give you a lower average payout by design as they are covering the variance.



What about 0% fee PPS pools like ABC pool etc. !? Diminished earnings compared to prop system or not ?
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bottom line:
If you not hashing fast enough at some point the rate of declineing payoff will exceed the shares your miner can submit and you loose to the big boys (especially when's hard to find a share)

You are quite wrong about that because you misunderstand how a proportional pool works.

You will get less variance with a PPS pool but a lower average payout. PPS pools need to give you a lower average payout by design as they are covering the variance.



What about 0% fee PPS pools like ABC pool etc. !? Diminished earnings compared to prop system or not ?

For the love of God! Doesn't anyone inform themselves anymore @ wikipedia and mining guides? A pps pool with 0% fee would be great, except the pool will go bankrupt in no time. A ppl pool always take takes the full risk and may actually end up paying out much more to miners than it is making as a whole.

And for those other comments, what is the deal with that fanboy naming? Has this become the new standard 'Secret of Monkey Island'TM answer if you can't counter an argument on the basis of matter of fact? ;-) No offence.

I mine @ Slush not because of an awesome man-crush on czech programmers but simply because this pool offers low fees, long polling, merged mining and a way to counter pool hopping. I honestly liked BtcGuild but found out that my payouts at 0% prop were somehow less than at Slush's pool over the time of two months. And during that, there were downtimes over there as well. I tried deepbit (10%) and quickly decided against it, if you are willing to go pps, surely there are cheaper alternatives since variance is not a problem with any pps, or is it? I tried other pps pools, but they still have quite high fees and no merged mining. If they do offer merged mining and pps, they have hidden transfer fees that sum up to 10% again (NMCBit).

At least we know why people choose deepbit now, they didn't understand the entire variance thing yet and need to educate themselves a bit more. Bigger pool isn't always better, quite literally.
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November 08, 2011, 12:27:59 PM
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Ok, so I couldn't stop mining a bit in this pool.
However, I was just trying to change payout address on the NMC when I got a big warning note about "You have pending request for changing Namecoin wallet to:" and in there an email that doesn't belong to me. How do I go about changing that email? It does seem to send a confirmation mail to that address, and I most certainly won't get it.

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