Merit & new rank requirements

[cabalism13]

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1. It is not that impossible , as you can see many of the members are still earning Merits
2. As long as you're doing a great job you'll get some fame in no time.
3. Although Merit has broke many lives, it wasn't still a failed system.
4. Doesn't agree to non-legitimate/unintended manner, it will only lead to the accounts to have Red Trust.
5. The system will surely come at halt for the reason another Forum is being made by the developers.
6. Just do what you think is necessary
 ( Don't expect way too much to rank up in a short period of time - I think it really doesn't matter if it will take years just to reach the Legendary Rank)

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[TryNinja]

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Maybe you should only rank up if you deserve? Have you thought about this?

If you haven't noticed, you still need from 775 to 1030 activity to rank up to Legendary. This means that if you create your account right now, you still need to wait almost 3 years (while being active) to rank up. Are you saying that you can't get 1000 merits in 3 years? It's been only 7 months since the merit system was created and there are already tons of users with 200+ merits (a median rate of ~1 merit per day), and 18 users with +500 merits (~2.4 merits per day).

Please, stop crying about merit and start doing something useful. The only "elite" that BitcoinTalk has is the group of users who actually care about the forum and try to contribute with something instead of joining shitbounties, spamming about ICO/shitcoins or crying about merit.

[tk808]

Maybe you should only rank up if you deserve? Have you thought about this?

If you haven't noticed, you still need from 775 to 1030 activity to rank up to Legendary. This means that if you create your account right now, you still need to wait almost 3 years (while being active) to rank up. Are you saying that you can't get 1000 merits in 3 years? It's been only 7 months since the merit system was created and there are already tons of users with 200+ merits (a median rate of ~1 merit per day), and 18 users with +500 merits (~2.4 merits per day).

Please, stop crying about merit and start doing something useful. The only "elite" that BitcoinTalk has is the group of users who actually care about the forum and try to contribute with something instead of joining shitbounties, spamming about ICO/shitcoins or crying about merit.

You didn't read my post carefully enough, and no one deserves anything in this world, it's only a matter of circumstance and opportunity.

 
I noticed that, and already knew that. But, i'm on the fringe of the old systems requirements. Yes, and that was a fair time-gate. No, i can't do 1000 merit in 3 years, and very few can. There are specific boards and threads were people are more likely to merit. By merely posting where you want to post on these forums, you're hurting your chances to acquire merit. Am i going to go out of my way to collect merit from the sources that give it? Fuck no. I'm not here to farm kudo points from other users, as many of you do who defend the system. This isn't a video-game, this is forum.

So lets break this down in elementary terms; the majority of the highest ranked BTT members dwell only in BTC sections, so therefore more likely to merit in those locations to where they are biased and most recognized within. Again, why should anyone feel the need to milk the tits of these members, again for kudos? Worthless system.

"Tons of users" is subjective. How many tons out of how many total users? The amount of merit given on a daily basis will be drastically decreased years from now, due to the replenishment rates. While you have some justification here, you need to >farm< this out in specific forum boards, is that really constructive to the system if you're going for the carrot on the string? Not really, it actually diminishes the principals behind this entire forum, freedom. The new system is a hierarchy, a structure based on bullshit to filter all the new scammy accounts.


Not sure where these unfounded and ignorant sentences are coming from, you clearly have not done any research into my profile, and failed to understand my previous post. You refute and defend the system all you want, it doesn't make your contributions to BTT any more significant than mine. And from your profile posts, it's pretty evident your contributions amount to nothing, just basic support and the occasional constructive posts that are far and few. I'm confused why you have so much merit for those elementary school posts? maybe you're milking the right tits

By people merely complaining about the system, does not immediately invalidate their opinion. Instead of trying to understand what people are talking about, you immediately brush it off because the system fits your ego. You're obviously content with the awards, for your interactions, in the threads, that suite your experiences. Ultimately, you feel benefited and above other people by having something and understanding something better than most, prestige of merit by being in the right places at the right times. There are reasons behind every action, and every action taken in this world, by anyone, is a selfish one.

[Branko]

It seems that many people have their personal reasons to be unhappy with current system, and here is mine:

friend who made his account week before me is Sr Member from start of new system, and has 250 merit, same as on day one
of new system introduction

I have 177, as you can see

Mere fact that he started week earlier, with no contributing at all (if we equal merit = contribution, I got 77 meanwhile, he got zero)
outweighs all my efforts

How about when system was introduced we all got merit based on our activity back then
(in my case, I get 249 or 248 instead 100)?


I can only imagine how someone who was on the brink of attaining legendary feels  

[TryNinja]

This isn't a video-game, this is forum.

I'm glad you noticed that. So, you don't actually need any merit since you can post and have a discussion regardless of your rank, right?

So lets break this down in elementary terms; the majority of the highest ranked BTT members dwell only in BTC sections, so therefore more likely to merit in those locations to where they are biased and most recognized within. Again, why should anyone feel the need to milk the tits of these members, again for kudos? Worthless system.

Because the altcoin board is a shitshow. 90% of the threads are either shitcoin ANN threads, bounties or redundant and useless discussions which easily turn into Spam Mega Threads. It's been a few months since I visited the altcoin board for the last time.

"Tons of users" is subjective. How many tons out of how many total users? The amount of merit given on a daily basis will be drastically decreased years from now, due to the replenishment rates. While you have some justification here, you need to >farm< this out in specific forum boards.

"If we sum up all the user accounts with last activity within this year from Jr.Member to Legendary + Copper members, we get 90993 users". 90993 users out of 2 million registered accounts. If we remove all the Jr. Members and Members spammers who only care about doing bounties, there are only 25544 active users. From DdmrDdmr's merit dashboard, 312 users already received at least 100 merits.

You clearly have not done any research into my profile, and failed to understand my post. You refute and defend the system all you want, it doesn't make your contributions to BTT any more significant than mine. And from your profile posts, it's pretty evident your contributions amount to nothing, just basic support and the occasional constructive posts that are far and few. I'm confused why you have so much merit for those elementary school posts? maybe you're milking the right tits

Yes, I did check your post history. Congratulations on your work of shilling/working on shitcoins who are nothing more than a money-grab scheme or doesn't have any real world utility. I hope you enjoyed the 3% of your now dead "Nevra" shitcoin.

P.S: I actually received "227 merit 164 times, from 91 profiles" - according to BPIP; A good number of tits indeed.


Sources:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4901670.0
https://public.tableau.com/profile/ddmrddmr/vizhome/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/GlobalSummary#!/

[tk808]

Quote from: tk808 on Today at 12:14:42 PM
This isn't a video-game, this is forum.
I'm glad you noticed that. So, you don't actually need any merit since you can post and have a discussion regardless of your rank, right?

Quote from: tk808 on Today at 12:14:42 PM
So lets break this down in elementary terms; the majority of the highest ranked BTT members dwell only in BTC sections, so therefore more likely to merit in those locations to where they are biased and most recognized within. Again, why should anyone feel the need to milk the tits of these members, again for kudos? Worthless system.
Because the altcoin board is a shitshow. 90% of the threads are either shitcoin ANN threads, bounties or redundant and useless discussions which easily turn into Spam Mega Threads. It's been a few months since I visited the altcoin board for the last time.

Quote from: tk808 on Today at 12:14:42 PM
"Tons of users" is subjective. How many tons out of how many total users? The amount of merit given on a daily basis will be drastically decreased years from now, due to the replenishment rates. While you have some justification here, you need to >farm< this out in specific forum boards.
"If we sum up all the user accounts with last activity within this year from Jr.Member to Legendary + Copper members, we get 90993 users". 90993 users out of 2 million registered accounts. If we remove all the Jr. Members and Members spammers who only care about doing bounties, there are only 25544 active users. From DdmrDdmr's merit dashboard, 312 users already received at least 100 merits.

Quote from: tk808 on Today at 12:14:42 PM
You clearly have not done any research into my profile, and failed to understand my post. You refute and defend the system all you want, it doesn't make your contributions to BTT any more significant than mine. And from your profile posts, it's pretty evident your contributions amount to nothing, just basic support and the occasional constructive posts that are far and few. I'm confused why you have so much merit for those elementary school posts? maybe you're milking the right tits
Yes, I did check your post history. Congratulations on your work of shilling/working on shitcoins who are nothing more than a money-grab scheme or doesn't have any real world utility. I hope you enjoyed the 3% of your now terminated "Nevra" project. Cheesy

You continue to invalidate yourself by taking stuff out of context to validate yourself, I'm not going to get into a discussion about cherry picking posts and contributions, because we are now off-topic.

The only worthwhile thing talking with you about is how much merit can be acquired, but again you failed to actually read what i was talking about, taking things out of context to suit your world-view, appears what you do best.  

Edit: I will ultimately say this in regards to altcoins, while the majority are yes shit, and scams; altcoins have progressed and helped the entire crypto scene more than bitcoin itself in the past 4 years. I have the upmost respect for btc, and satoshi's vision, but alternative coins are the only way blockchain tech will be adopted. Crypto reflects what the dotcom boom was, a lot of bad apples, but the few 1% that succeeded, changed the world forever. It wasn't the internet that drove the internet, it was the companies building their businesses and pouring money based on the internet. Building a system on-top of a revolutionary system. The parallel can be drawn with altcoins and bitcoin.

Most Bitcoin supporters (if there are any exclusive ones left), are the most ignorant crypto-individuals in this respect. Ultimately, i recommend anyone view my profile, and you'll see why Ninja is ultimately incorrect in his attacks, invalidating his entire defense in regards to the failed system, merit.  

[LoyceV]

No, i can't do 1000 merit in 3 years, and very few can. There are specific boards and threads were people are more likely to merit. By merely posting where you want to post on these forums, you're hurting your chances to acquire merit. Am i going to go out of my way to collect merit from the sources that give it? Fuck no. I'm not here to farm kudo points from other users, as many of you do who defend the system.

I think you're going at this the wrong way: you're mainly posting in Altcoin discussion, and if you like that, that's great! But those boards suffer from massive spam, which means your posts don't get noticed much, even though you don't look like a spammer to me.
Now, If Merit and other measures could reduce the spam, the altcoin boards could become quality boards again instead of Spam Megathreads, and many good posts will get noticed again.
Unfortunately, that won't happen overnight. I don't know if you do it already, but you can help clean up the forum by clicking "Report to moderator" on bad posts. Get them deleted or banned!

So lets break this down in elementary terms; the majority of the highest ranked BTT members dwell only in BTC sections, so therefore more likely to merit in those locations

You make it sound as if it is a bad thing to mainly use Bitcoin sections on a Bitcoin forum.

The Merit system isn't perfect, but it's the best we have now. In an ideal world, it wouldn't be necessary.
Long term, I'm hoping you too would appreciate a cleaner forum with higher post quality.

You clearly have not done any research into my profile, and failed to understand my post. You refute and defend the system all you want, it doesn't make your contributions to BTT any more significant than mine. And from your profile posts, it's pretty evident your contributions amount to nothing, just basic support and the occasional constructive posts that are far and few. I'm confused why you have so much merit for those elementary school posts? maybe you're milking the right tits

Yes, I did check your post history. Congratulations on your work of shilling/working on shitcoins who are nothing more than a money-grab scheme or doesn't have any real world utility. I hope you enjoyed the 3% of your now dead "Nevra" shitcoin.

Aren't all altcoins, ICOs and Forkcoins money-grab schemes? I don't think Merit is supposed to stop that, otherwise it would be much easier to just close all altcoin boards. And I do think tk808's posts are much better than the spammers for which Merit was introduced, which is why I merited him.

I have 177, as you can see

Mere fact that he started week earlier, with no contributing at all (if we equal merit = contribution, I got 77 meanwhile, he got zero) outweighs all my efforts

It depends how you look at it. When it comes to Rank you're right, a 250 Merit airdrop beats your 177 Merit. But when it comes to contribution and recognition on the forum, earning Merits the hard way makes your posts look much better. And if you keep this up, you'll pass 250 in a few months.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

**Opens thread**

‘Moan, moan, fucking moan’ (about it being too hard to gain Merit).

**Rolls Eyes & leaves thread**

[RustyBits]

I still do not quite have a handle on merit points and such. I get their usefulness and value and that they are a relatively recent addition to the forum - implemented to combat spam which would render these forums virtually useless and impossible to navigate without the merit system. Having been in other forums overrun with spam, I have no problem believing that some implementation of merit was obviously necessary here to avoid that same fate.

As a newbie to Bitcointalk, I feel slightly disadvantaged at coming in after the merit system was implemented rather than before, but that is just my own bad luck and poor timing. But begging for merit points and pointing out the 'unfairness' of how the current merit system negatively impacts newbies is kind of like buying Bitcoin now at ~$6500 and then claiming it is unfair that some people were able to get Bitcoin at 30¢ back in the year 20-whatever.

Those who are established forum members with high ranks achieved that status by being early adopters with a passion or strong interest in the technology and philosophy behind cryptocurrency.  Whether fueled by flaunting their early adoption gains or their superior knowledge of the system's inner workings or just a desire to help other people understand it all better - they constructively contribute to the discussion.  Those who are crying about the merit bias against newbies are those johnny-come-lately's who are really only in this to make a buck.

I was motivated to buy my first Bitcoin to try to make a buck. I like to browse this forum for answers to questions that I have - which results in hours and hours of passively reading (or lurking) - but often weeks or more at a time without actively posting. With limited financial resources, I am still spending most of my crypto time bouncing around on different faucets and so a good chunk of my time here is spent in the "Micro Earnings" threads.  Probably not the best strategy for leveling up... but it's my choice of how to spend my limited time. My point is this - rather than whine about the unfairness of the system, I am trying to educate myself on the system. It's not about skyrocketing rank so to get a bigger bundle of sticks as soon as possible. It's about slowly learning how to gather up that bigger bundle of sticks and make good use of them.

[tk808]

Quote from: TryNinja on Today at 12:37:02 PM
Quote from: tk808 on Today at 12:14:42 PM
You clearly have not done any research into my profile, and failed to understand my post. You refute and defend the system all you want, it doesn't make your contributions to BTT any more significant than mine. And from your profile posts, it's pretty evident your contributions amount to nothing, just basic support and the occasional constructive posts that are far and few. I'm confused why you have so much merit for those elementary school posts? maybe you're milking the right tits
Yes, I did check your post history. Congratulations on your work of shilling/working on shitcoins who are nothing more than a money-grab scheme or doesn't have any real world utility. I hope you enjoyed the 3% of your now dead "Nevra" shitcoin. Cheesy
Aren't all altcoins, ICOs and Forkcoins money-grab schemes? I don't think Merit is supposed to stop that, otherwise it would be much easier to just close all altcoin boards. And I do think tk808's posts are much better than the spammers for which Merit was introduced, which is why I merited him.

Most, not all. All can be simply disproved by Ethereum's ICO. There's a lot of meaningful steps occurring, while Bitcoin's potential is limited. BTC just remains at the forefront of all cryptos, because it's the father and the standard for trades. Nothing will change that in the foreseeable future.

Altcoins have shy'd away from Satoshi's philosophy entirely, and just entering the real-world tech spaces, catering to mass adoption. (the few that have any worth and legit)

I agree with most of the rest of your points though. This forum was meant for Bitcoin discussions, and i have no issue with that. And yes, the majority of any meaningful discussions happen in the Bitcoin and related sections.



When you enter altcoins, you have to have a fundamental understanding of what's really occurring, or you're going to get taken.

Just wanted to express my view on merit, which i believe is a failed system, it will become more evident a few years from now.

[suchmoon]

Merit is a failed system, for a Hero member (500 merit) to become a Legendary member (1000 merit), we need to acquire the equivalent of one top-10 merited users ever on BTT. It's impossible for those who have no recognition among the top 50-100 elite on Bitcointalk. The only way to acquire this sum is to do it in a non-legitimate and unintended manner. As time passes, the entire system will come to a halt, due to the unreasonable replenishment rates and the lack of user-understanding of how the system functions.  

If the intention was not to immortalize and make the Legendary rank unobtainable, you're better off reviewing Hero accounts that want to become legendary (like myself).  

There is only one way for any ordinary person to get legendary (via VIP) legitimately: Buy your rank from BTT by donating 10 BTC.

What's the difference between Hero and Legendary that makes this such a big deal? Sure Legendary is not easy to earn but it was already a gimmick/novelty rank even before merits, given the random activity and (as far as I know) no extra forum privileges or shitposting earnings compared to Hero.

[Joel_Jantsen]

Unfortunately, that won't happen overnight. I don't know if you do it already, but you can help clean up the forum by clicking "Report to moderator" on bad posts. Get them deleted or banned!

The problem is, the ratio in which spam is created exponentially takes over the spam being deleted. We need to limit that ratio. More moderators must be assigned to handle reports instantly. At times my reports take too much time to be handled even for obvious spam posts.

Long term, I'm hoping you too would appreciate a cleaner forum with higher post quality.

*Higher post quality in the important boards like Development & Technical Discussions/ Bitcoin Discussions/ Project Development. Right now, what we call as "High-Quality Posters" can't afford to post outside of Meta/Reputation sections.

[TeQuiero]

*Higher post quality in the important boards like Development & Technical Discussions/ Bitcoin Discussions/ Project Development. Right now, what we call as "High-Quality Posters" can't afford to post outside of Meta/Reputation sections.

I was wondering for a long time that was I the only one have that concept about "quality" in mind. According to my observation, most of the merits are given in Meta board. Those merit-received posts only meet "constructive" criteria and I don't see many really "high quality" ones. Sometimes, to match the "constructive" criteria, people deliberately lengthen posts & topics. This confuses their readers.

I'm not a regular visitor of Development & Technical or Project Development and I think either are merit sources. Btw, Bitcoin Discussion is becoming as trashy as Altcoin Discussion so we shouldn't expect from it. Serious Discussion should be instead.

[chreez]

I wish there would have been some sort of option of giving dislike (-ve merit) to the spam/LQ posts and if any post receives certain -ve merits/dislikes,it should be automatically deleted /hidden

I don't think negative merit will be nice here again since the system is already using negative trust to reduce spam and scam like posting, but if a - veMerit can be made to deduct someone's earned merit or remain -veMerit until the person earns +veMerit to balance the - ve then it will be OK.

[deonyx]

In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

Rank	Required activity	Required merit
Brand new	0	0
Newbie	1	0
Jr Member	30	0
Member	60	10
Full Member	120	100
Sr. Member	240	250
Hero Member	480	500
Legendary	Random in the range 775-1030	1000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Do not beg for merit excessively.

Useful infographics

Forum users have helpfully created some infographics to explain the merit system:
paxmao's infographic
ibminer's infographic
8Habits's infographic
JetSet11's infographic
zentdex's infographic
alia_armelle's infographic

If you want to be a merit source:

 1. Be a somewhat established member.
 2. Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months by other people that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread. The point of this is to demonstrate your ability to give out merit usefully.
 3. We will take a look at your history and maybe make you a source.

I am especially eager to have merit sources in sub-communities such as the local sections.

Trivia:

For current members, your initial merit score is equal to the minimum required to your rank. Of that, a certain amount (less than the usual half) is spendable. The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year. A Legendary member who hasn't posted in the last year would still be Legendary, but would not have any spendable merit.

If someone sends you 1 merit, the 0.5 sMerit is not wasted; it is just not shown until you get another merit point.

There are stats here, and you can find someone's merit summary by clicking the "merit" link on their profile.

I've been thinking about this, I didn't really want to make a new thread about it, but commenting on a post already discussing about merit in detail is fine

The merit system introduced into the forum is good and lovely and my thoughts is there could be a time where merit would translate to a BTT token and could be withdrawable as crypto coin, and if that happens then those that thought that writing just a spam post on the forum is good would then start struggling to earn token or buy with their BTC.

This is crypto community and a top one at that... Just my thoughts though, I may be wrong.

[athanz88]

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I am in the brink time of making my way to a full member when the Merit is introduced, yet now i am a Senior Member. Look on how i post and my made topic, or look to some of top merit receiver, and compare it to your post. Learn from that and i believe you can rank up even in this sytem. You dont need to look on your friend's account and remembering your chance to be a Senior Member in the old system. Move on !

This isn't a video-game, this is forum.

What TryNinja has been saying is true, if you really think this is a forum, then why the hell rank is matters with you? Last time I checked, this is the definition of a forum

a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.

You can do what the definition says, without being a Legendary rank or Hero Rank.

[Samarkand]

...
I am in the brink time of making my way to a full member when the Merit is introduced, yet now i am a Senior Member. Look on how i post and my made topic, or look to some of top merit receiver, and compare it to your post. Learn from that and i believe you can rank up even in this sytem.
...

It is great that you managed to rank up since the introduction
of the merit system. However, I´m not sure if this is really a viable
recommendation for Branko´s problem.

Just take a look at the merit that you have received in the last 120 days:

August 16, 2018, 05:05:34 AM: 1 from vphasitha01 for Re: Disable delete option from merited post.
July 02, 2018, 04:54:20 AM: 1 from Silent26 for Re: Done with this forum
June 25, 2018, 10:10:00 AM: 1 from xIIImaL for Re: [FANCHAIN] by SportsCastr 🔥Signature campaign🔥Earn up to $115/week for posting
May 17, 2018, 02:43:56 PM: 1 from zentdex for Re: Merit & new rank requirements
May 17, 2018, 11:57:54 AM: 1 from zentdex for Re: 100 Days of Merit
May 14, 2018, 03:39:54 AM: 1 from Foxpup for Re: Merit & new rank requirements
May 13, 2018, 05:10:46 AM: 1 from vendy86 for Lets Break The QuestionAuthority NOW !!!
May 11, 2018, 06:01:13 PM: 1 from DdmrDdmr for Re: All About Merit.
May 09, 2018, 05:18:06 PM: 1 from TMAN for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
May 07, 2018, 06:31:23 PM: 1 from Lazada for Another "Thanks Merit For This Rank Up" Thread
May 05, 2018, 02:31:35 AM: 1 from Nellayar for Another "Thanks Merit For This Rank Up" Thread
May 04, 2018, 12:52:19 PM: 2 from TMAN for Another "Thanks Merit For This Rank Up" Thread
April 28, 2018, 06:00:43 PM: 2 from suchmoon for Another "Thanks Merit For This Rank Up" Thread
April 27, 2018, 04:44:56 PM: 1 from Indohunter for Another "Thanks Merit For This Rank Up" Thread
April 27, 2018, 04:27:37 PM: 1 from Husna QA for Another "Thanks Merit For This Rank Up" Thread
April 27, 2018, 10:24:32 AM: 1 from numanoid for Another "Thanks Merit For This Rank Up" Thread
April 26, 2018, 07:44:12 PM: 3 from DdmrDdmr for Another "Thanks Merit For This Rank Up" Thread
April 26, 2018, 06:29:46 PM: 1 from JayJuanGee for Re: Merit & new rank requirements

I have bolded every merit that was awarded for a post that was somehow related to the
merit system or its ramifications.

Does anyone notice a pattern here?!

To sum up, you have earned exactly a single merit for a post that was not somehow related to the
merit system in the last 4 months. And you, athanz88, are definitely one of the better posters on Bitcointalk.
If this is the result of 4 months of posting activity for a good poster, then the merit system is
definitely an utter failure   not working as intended.

We don´t really need Branko (or any other user) to start making tons of posts in the Meta subforum
just for the purpose of gaining merit in order to rank up. It is a well-known fact that
merits are awarded quite freely in the Meta subforum. It is much harder to earn merit in other parts of the forum,
which is kind of sad. This leads to hilarious results like the fact that a user like TMAN, who constantly
berates newbies in the Meta subforum, has earned more merit than
guys like gmaxwell, HeRetiK or DannyHamilton.

One of the possible solutions to improve the merit system would be the complete
removal of the ability to award or receive merit in the Meta subforum at all.

[Branko]

...
I am in the brink time of making my way to a full member when the Merit is introduced, yet now i am a Senior Member. Look on how i post and my made topic, or look to some of top merit receiver, and compare it to your post. Learn from that and i believe you can rank up even in this sytem.
...

It is great that you managed to rank up since the introduction
of the merit system. However, I´m not sure if this is really a viable
recommendation for Branko´s problem.

Just take a look at the merit that you have received in the last 120 days:

August 16, 2018, 05:05:34 AM: 1 from vphasitha01 for Re: Disable delete option from merited post.
July 02, 2018, 04:54:20 AM: 1 from Silent26 for Re: Done with this forum
June 25, 2018, 10:10:00 AM: 1 from xIIImaL for Re: [FANCHAIN] by SportsCastr 🔥Signature campaign🔥Earn up to $115/week for posting
May 17, 2018, 02:43:56 PM: 1 from zentdex for Re: Merit & new rank requirements
May 17, 2018, 11:57:54 AM: 1 from zentdex for Re: 100 Days of Merit
May 14, 2018, 03:39:54 AM: 1 from Foxpup for Re: Merit & new rank requirements
May 13, 2018, 05:10:46 AM: 1 from vendy86 for Lets Break The QuestionAuthority NOW !!!
May 11, 2018, 06:01:13 PM: 1 from DdmrDdmr for Re: All About Merit.
May 09, 2018, 05:18:06 PM: 1 from TMAN for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
May 07, 2018, 06:31:23 PM: 1 from Lazada for Another "Thanks Merit For This Rank Up" Thread
May 05, 2018, 02:31:35 AM: 1 from Nellayar for Another "Thanks Merit For This Rank Up" Thread
May 04, 2018, 12:52:19 PM: 2 from TMAN for Another "Thanks Merit For This Rank Up" Thread
April 28, 2018, 06:00:43 PM: 2 from suchmoon for Another "Thanks Merit For This Rank Up" Thread
April 27, 2018, 04:44:56 PM: 1 from Indohunter for Another "Thanks Merit For This Rank Up" Thread
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April 26, 2018, 06:29:46 PM: 1 from JayJuanGee for Re: Merit & new rank requirements

I have bolded every merit that was awarded for a post that was somehow related to the
merit system or its ramifications.

Does anyone notice a pattern here?!

To sum up, you have earned exactly a single merit for a post that was not somehow related to the
merit system in the last 4 months. And you, athanz88, are definitely one of the better posters on Bitcointalk.
If this is the result of 4 months of posting activity for a good poster, then the merit system is
definitely an utter failure   not working as intended.

We don´t really need Branko (or any other user) to start making tons of posts in the Meta subforum
just for the purpose of gaining merit in order to rank up. It is a well-known fact that
merits are awarded quite freely in the Meta subforum. It is much harder to earn merit in other parts of the forum,
which is kind of sad. This leads to hilarious results like the fact that a user like TMAN, who constantly
berates newbies in the Meta subforum, has earned more merit than
guys like gmaxwell, HeRetiK or DannyHamilton.

One of the possible solutions to improve the merit system would be the complete
removal of the ability to award or receive merit in the Meta subforum at all.

You beat my by few seconds, I wrote almost same reply, then forum warned me someone wrote something meantime 

Yes, kind of beat the purpose to get most merit by writing about merit...since I came to BTT my main point of interest

was altcoins mining, and at start 90% my posts were there, until I started posting in Croatian subforum too. I feel

most of my "good" posts are in altcoins/mining, but I got majority of my merit in Croatian subforum, and when I checked

around, it seems that many people got most in either meta or BTC subforums, or in their local boards

[athanz88]

@Branko and @Samarkand

If you guys want to bash me about my merit that is received in Meta Section, then it is okay for me, i get it with my style and my work, so i hope you guys dont mind it like this.Well, To make it clear too, there is nothing wrong in getting merits in meta section. The main purpose of merit is to make a quality post, and i am 100% believe that you 2 guys only know quality as it is a "good" or even "great" post, well you are wrong. In a forum (note this is a forum, okay?) besides a "good" or "great" content, you need the engagement and other things. Whats the point of making a good post if you are posting in a mega-thread, or if you dont even try to talk to other members?

And please read this link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3093768.0, this is and old statistics, but you know, meta is not the only section that is getting merits a lot. You guys should stop talking merits received in meta section is not well deserved without a data. You didnt received merits in your favorite section doesnt mean people dont get merits there, or the fault is at other section. The demography is different so if you want to blame then blame people in your section that doesnt want to give you guys merit.

O ya, have you 2 ever made a post like this link i am talking about? I bet you have because you re getting merit, but really you cant compare things like that. You re looking at your neighborhood's grass and comparing them while the types of the grass you have is different, until judgement time come you still cant make an on point comparison.

[Branko]

@Branko and @Samarkand

If you guys want to bash me about my merit that is received in Meta Section, then it is okay for me, i get it with my style and my work, so i hope you guys dont mind it like this.Well, To make it clear too, there is nothing wrong in getting merits in meta section. The main purpose of merit is to make a quality post, and i am 100% believe that you 2 guys only know quality as it is a "good" or even "great" post, well you are wrong. In a forum (note this is a forum, okay?) besides a "good" or "great" content, you need the engagement and other things. Whats the point of making a good post if you are posting in a mega-thread, or if you dont even try to talk to other members?

And please read this link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3093768.0, this is and old statistics, but you know, meta is not the only section that is getting merits a lot. You guys should stop talking merits received in meta section is not well deserved without a data. You didnt received merits in your favorite section doesnt mean people dont get merits there, or the fault is at other section. The demography is different so if you want to blame then blame people in your section that doesnt want to give you guys merit.

O ya, have you 2 ever made a post like this link i am talking about? I bet you have because you re getting merit, but really you cant compare things like that. You re looking at your neighborhood's grass and comparing them while the types of the grass you have is different, until judgement time come you still cant make an on point comparison.

Its not about speaking in meta, its about speaking about merit.

I'd compare it with a general becoming general by speaking about military ranks, instead been on battlefields