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September 07, 2014, 12:06:24 PM |
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Fierce shelling in both Mariupol and Donetsk airport. At the same time, the Kiev forces were involved in a failed attempt to recapture the village of Telimanovo (between Mariupol and Lugansk). Battalion Azov of the Ukrainian army saying that they will not recognize the ceasefire. Igor Bezler warning that he will hit back if the Ukies attack. How many days this ceasefire will last?
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September 07, 2014, 12:31:37 PM |
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Fierce shelling in both Mariupol and Donetsk airport. At the same time, the Kiev forces were involved in a failed attempt to recapture the village of Telimanovo (between Mariupol and Lugansk). Battalion Azov of the Ukrainian army saying that they will not recognize the ceasefire. Igor Bezler warning that he will hit back if the Ukies attack. How many days this ceasefire will last?
Not a day. Even yesterday morning there were reports about clashes between units trying to infiltrate into enemy held territories. So both sides used that short break for troop and supply movements ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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September 07, 2014, 12:43:35 PM |
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Not a day. Even yesterday morning there were reports about clashes between units trying to infiltrate into enemy held territories. So both sides used that short break for troop and supply movements ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . The rebels didn't needed any break. They were already having the momentum and were poised to take strategically important locations in the Donbass such as Mariupol, Severodonetsk, and Krasnyi Liman. Only the Kiev forces needed the break to regroup and get the prisoners (almost 2,000 of them currently being held by the NAF) released.
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September 07, 2014, 01:35:32 PM |
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Actually things are getting anticlimactic. It's already clear how this will end.
Timing is the key. You can't force a fruit to ripen prematurely. The obvious strategy of Putin is to tighten the screws on Ukraine. Either Poroshenko surrenders all his delusions or he loses more territory the longer he deludes himself that the bankrupt WEst can help him. Actually, the Pravy Sector is crucial here, they don't want Poroshenko to capitulate. That will ensure that the whole Novorussia will be taken over in its entirety.
It's easy to see why Novorussia will be formed whole. Militarily, all the advantages are on the Russian side. All the areas to be taken over are adjacent to Russian strongholds where rebels can just jump in. The DPR/LPR in the EAst, from Crimea in the center & from Transdinistria beside Odessa. Kharkov will be the easiest. Ukraine is funnel-shaped, a ready-made cauldron in military parlance, sorrounded by Russian-controlled areas on 3 sides and invaders can enter from the Poland side but their escape can be easily pinched off and they will be trapped like the destruction of the UKrainian battalions in the sorrounded pockets in Ilovaysk, Novorussia. That will also happen to the Ukrainian forces in the center in time.
Would love to visit Donetsk, Novorussia one day BTW. Would be nice to party also in Odessa, Novorussia.
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September 07, 2014, 01:43:27 PM |
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Check a tweet from one of the Battalion Donbass mercenaries (far-right group fighting for Kiev): https://twitter.com/ru_988/status/508398905785319424![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FBw47IZgIgAAMqh4.jpg&t=665&c=opJX7BBZfbgQ6Q) It is very clear that the ceasefire was first violated by the Kiev side. Or may be, it is because Poroshenko can't control all the armed groups which are fighting for him in the Donbass region?
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September 07, 2014, 02:11:09 PM |
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Pagan and his neverending stream of copy-pasted lies, misinformations and wishful interpretations... Belatedly, I think, this "blame the Russians" propaganda of the losing Ukrainian side is ironically helping more the Novorussians instead: it's an effective psywar on the nervous Ukrainian conscripts. I just read a news feature in a Baltic newspaper where in an interview, a Ukrainian commander revealed that when the Ukrainian conscripts in Ilovaysk heard that "Russians just crossed the border", many of them quickly deserted and the morale noticeably suffered. Btw, he also said that the best among the Ukrainian soldiers have already been "sacrificed" because they were the first to be sent to the frontlines. That article was another "Blame the Russians" propaganda (which is the constant theme of current Anglo-zionist agitprop), but because of the stupidity of the propagandists, they hit their own heads instead with their propaganda. This kind of stupidity is constant in the Ukraine fiasco. Like the bankrupt EU countries threatening sanctions but they hit themselves on the mouth instead. Even Germany shrunk by .2% in the last quarter while Russia grew .8% in the same period. As the French would say, Touche!! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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September 07, 2014, 02:51:45 PM |
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#Strelkov: "About events happening in #Novorossiya wont comment.To put it mildly Im not happy" http://vk.com/wall-57424472_16925Whatever is going on, it is clear that Strelkov is being undermined. The ceasefire benefits only the Ukies, not the NAF (who were winning..) Not good for Novorossiya.
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September 07, 2014, 03:14:27 PM |
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Belatedly, I think, this "blame the Russians" propaganda of the losing Ukrainian side
a quote out of your first message on these forums pretty much says it all: "WE have clever leaders like Putin, for one. He's my idol, btw. I love clever people " good luck with your delusions. for me personally you're done and toast. i only hear sheer idiocy from these kremlin trolls. to everyone else - btw, i'm a Donetsk native living 150 miles away from it now, ask me whatever if you feel like it.
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September 07, 2014, 03:31:24 PM |
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![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Yes, isn't this paradoxical. Herr Lavrov, who cannot stop lying and shows his hypocritical indignation over Western sanctions and promises retaliation, has a daughter who is a US citizen and speaks only bad Russian, while the mothers of soldiers killed in action in Ukraine in an undeclared war receive their kids back in sealed coffins and when they open their mouths are immediately declared "foreign agent"... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpp.vk.me%2Fc624727%2Fv624727804%2Ff2f%2FP-Y6X3sGz1Q.jpg&t=665&c=pgubeH1kwsSW7A)
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bryant.coleman
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September 07, 2014, 04:57:30 PM |
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#Strelkov: "About events happening in #Novorossiya wont comment.To put it mildly Im not happy" http://vk.com/wall-57424472_16925Whatever is going on, it is clear that Strelkov is being undermined. The ceasefire benefits only the Ukies, not the NAF (who were winning..) Not good for Novorossiya. I feel bad for Strelkov. People like Strelkov and Bezler, who worked extremely hard for the past many months against overwhelming odds were cheated by Putin in the end. When the conflict began, the NAF were outnumbered by the Kiev forces by a factor of one to six. Right now, they are almost equal in the strength of armed forces, with NAF holding the advantage due to its technical superiority. But unfortunately, for Putin the bank accounts of his friends is more important than ensuring the basic fundamental rights of 7 million Donbass citizens.
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September 07, 2014, 05:50:38 PM |
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Pagan and his neverending stream of copy-pasted lies, misinformations and wishful interpretations... Belatedly, I think, this "blame the Russians" propaganda of the losing Ukrainian side is ironically helping more the Novorussians instead: it's an effective psywar on the nervous Ukrainian conscripts. I just read a news feature in a Baltic newspaper where in an interview, a Ukrainian commander revealed that when the Ukrainian conscripts in Ilovaysk heard that "Russians just crossed the border", many of them quickly deserted and the morale noticeably suffered. Btw, he also said that the best among the Ukrainian soldiers have already been "sacrificed" because they were the first to be sent to the frontlines. That article was another "Blame the Russians" propaganda (which is the constant theme of current Anglo-zionist agitprop), but because of the stupidity of the propagandists, they hit their own heads instead with their propaganda. This kind of stupidity is constant in the Ukraine fiasco. Like the bankrupt EU countries threatening sanctions but they hit themselves on the mouth instead. Even Germany shrunk by .2% in the last quarter while Russia grew .8% in the same period. As the French would say, Touche!! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) lol !!! high IQ of the Kremlin gives
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September 07, 2014, 05:57:21 PM |
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lol !!! high IQ of the Kremlin gives
they're better left alone in the cold and ignored for good do you happen to know that Kremlin keeps a specially staffed departments who troll in the comments of leading newspapers, public forums etc etc? they're the modern version of a soviet newspaper. don't read it at all if you want to be sane, safe and sound. you should also know that putin is referred only as khuilo (a dickhead) in Ukraine.
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September 07, 2014, 06:06:28 PM |
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lol !!! high IQ of the Kremlin gives
they're better left alone in the cold and ignored for good do you happen to know that Kremlin keeps a specially staffed departments who troll in the comments of leading newspapers, public forums etc etc? they're the modern version of a soviet newspaper. don't read it at all if you want to be sane, safe and sound. you should also know that putin is referred only as khuilo (a dickhead) in Ukraine. Did you know that the NSA monitors and stores every single electronic communication on the planet? Did you know that Israel and USA no doubt has their own paid shill program? Hypocrite. Such Russiaphobia is pathetic.
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September 07, 2014, 06:07:47 PM |
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lol !!! high IQ of the Kremlin gives
they're better left alone in the cold and ignored for good do you happen to know that Kremlin keeps a specially staffed departments who troll in the comments of leading newspapers, public forums etc etc? they're the modern version of a soviet newspaper. don't read it at all if you want to be sane, safe and sound. you should also know that putin is referred only as khuilo (a dickhead) in Ukraine. I be afraid? we have to fear? it's not our style, we know them better than anyone in the world
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September 07, 2014, 06:18:19 PM |
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lol !!! high IQ of the Kremlin gives
they're better left alone in the cold and ignored for good do you happen to know that Kremlin keeps a specially staffed departments who troll in the comments of leading newspapers, public forums etc etc? they're the modern version of a soviet newspaper. don't read it at all if you want to be sane, safe and sound. you should also know that putin is referred only as khuilo (a dickhead) in Ukraine. Did you know that the NSA monitors and stores every single electronic communication on the planet? Did you know that Israel and USA no doubt has their own paid shill program? Hypocrite. Such Russiaphobia is pathetic. fuck you. at least they don't invade your country with tanks and heavy artillery. let them store whatever, if they don't kill you. this is the least of all evils.
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September 07, 2014, 06:26:56 PM |
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lol !!! high IQ of the Kremlin gives
they're better left alone in the cold and ignored for good do you happen to know that Kremlin keeps a specially staffed departments who troll in the comments of leading newspapers, public forums etc etc? they're the modern version of a soviet newspaper. don't read it at all if you want to be sane, safe and sound. you should also know that putin is referred only as khuilo (a dickhead) in Ukraine. Did you know that the NSA monitors and stores every single electronic communication on the planet? Did you know that Israel and USA no doubt has their own paid shill program? Hypocrite. Such Russiaphobia is pathetic. fuck you. at least they don't invade your country with tanks and heavy artillery. let them store whatever, if they don't kill you. this is the least of all evils. Russian lie in their blood, we know that for years, for centuries, it is rubbish
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September 07, 2014, 06:29:20 PM |
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Apparently, fresh delivery of pro-Kiev newbie trolls has just arrived ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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