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Question: Ethnic cleansing of Russian speaking by Kiev forces is the main cause of clashes in Donbass area.
True. - 54 (51.4%)
This is Khasarian Kaganat and Russians must be killed or must be sclaves. - 29 (27.6%)
What is Donbass? - 5 (4.8%)
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Author Topic: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.  (Read 734877 times)
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September 07, 2014, 06:34:31 PM
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Apparently, fresh delivery of pro-Kiev newbie trolls has just arrived  Grin
old troll from the Kremlin spoke
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September 07, 2014, 06:38:33 PM
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Apparently, fresh delivery of pro-Kiev newbie trolls has just arrived  Cheesy
so you're thinking that you can do anything, think like this anymore ...
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September 07, 2014, 06:51:53 PM
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Apparently, fresh delivery of pro-Kiev newbie trolls has just arrived  Cheesy

Yep, the galician tradesman task-force have arrived Smiley.
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September 07, 2014, 07:51:52 PM
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Apparently, fresh delivery of pro-Kiev newbie trolls has just arrived  Grin
old troll from the Kremlin spoke

russian trolls are certified assholes, everybody knows
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September 07, 2014, 08:15:55 PM
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ruSSian press: it's time to kill all Ukrainians anywhere



https://www.facebook.com/GraniRu/photos/a.363605123677352.76619.157033337667866/752912231413304/?type=1


Russia Today: very fun GRAD rockets launch - to Ukrainians


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September 07, 2014, 09:07:16 PM
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lol !!! high IQ of the Kremlin gives

they're better left alone in the cold and ignored for good

do you happen to know that Kremlin keeps a specially staffed departments who troll in the comments of leading newspapers, public forums etc etc?

they're the modern version of a soviet newspaper. don't read it at all if you want to be sane, safe and sound.
you should also know that putin is referred only as khuilo (a dickhead) in Ukraine.

Did you know that the NSA monitors and stores every single electronic communication on the planet?

Did you know that Israel and USA no doubt has their own paid shill program?

Hypocrite.

Such Russiaphobia is pathetic.

fuck you. at least they don't invade your country with tanks and heavy artillery. let them store whatever, if they don't kill you. this is the least of all evils.

Yeah-yeah, they certainly don't invade countries that can fight back. But let's not forget Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq (just to name a few)...

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September 07, 2014, 09:24:00 PM
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lol !!! high IQ of the Kremlin gives
Said by somebody who have less than 200 words in the dictionary.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=518645.msg8587514#msg8587514
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September 07, 2014, 09:40:45 PM
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so much trolls hysteria, apparently the situation with the Ukrainian troops bad as ever  Wink

NO PSAKING!
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September 07, 2014, 10:04:22 PM
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Kind of like how when rebels declare a safety corridor, they end up killing hundreds of people passing through it, including Russian POWs?

The Kiev forces tried to act like they are over-smart and they got their asses kicked. The rebels were very clear when they said that the soldiers are not allowed to take any of their heavy weaponry on their route to Russia. But the over-confident Kiev forces took all their APCs and tanks and tried to storm their way to the Russian checkpoint. Got scorched by the rebel artillery barrage.

You say that as if that's a good reason to kill hundreds of people, including your own.

I'm kind of disappointed to see that Rassah is so biased.

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For a major city with a population of 2.78 million, to have just their number of kids double suggests that there may be as many as a million reffugies in that city alone.
Can you imagine a city whose population increased by more than a third in a couple of months? It would be a humanitarian crisis.

Maybe they are having a crisis and we haven't heard about it yet. Or maybe they will start when the food starts running out.

And sure, I'm biased. I have a good reason to be, which is almost 100 years of family and personal experience living under Rissian propaganda machine. You'd thing that it changed after the fall of USSR, but considering the lies Russia got caught in just since April, it would seem no.
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September 07, 2014, 10:07:55 PM
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World War 2 had been over for decades, so why did the Russian soldiers still refuse to go home?



This is a good question, why US continues to occupy Europe over seven decades (rhetorical question)

Because US is imperialist scum that wants to impose its democracy and capitalism on other nations. OK, your turn guys. Why did Russian troops refuse to go home? Wink
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September 07, 2014, 10:12:02 PM
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News coming in that Ukrainian tanks have fired on NAF positions near the village of Faschevka (East of Debaltsevo). Seems like this ceasefire won't last for much longer. BTW... even Poroshenko doubts that it will last. Check this:

http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i

Also, there is news that a convoy from Battalion Aidar was ambushed near Schastye. The battalion commander, S Melnychuk was reportedly killed in the attack.

How can Poroshenko guarantee a ceasefire if the troops fighting the separatists are all volunteers, and are not there? Why does he answer for them any more than Putin answers for the Russian volunteers?
And before you say, "But it's the Ukrainian army!" do remember that a lot of Ukrainians are fighting against the Russian invasion as guerillas, too.
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September 07, 2014, 10:39:30 PM
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But yes, rebels must be careful and keep their arms ready. Because warmongering Ukrainian nationalist gangs, encouraged and sponsored by certain shady (or perhaps not so shady) circles from the West, should not be trusted. They want war.

There aren't any warmongering nationalist gangg. There are very few nationalists in Ukraine that were visible during the Maidan protests, but they had very little support,and their party got less than 1% of the votes (There are MANY more nationalists and neonazis in Russia though). The first "warmongering gangs" appeared when Russia started putting out a whole bunch of scaremongering propaganda, claiming that Kiev is taken over by fascists who want to ban Russian language and kill all Russians (which was of course not true in any way), so the gangs were actually separatists, not Ukrainians, who were nothing more than hooligans with guns, going around taking over government buildings, and shooting anyone who they thought was a right sector supporter. Ukraine sent in troops to put a stop to their mayhem and bring peace back, as a police force,nothing more. No one in Ukraine wanted a war, not with eastern ukraine and not with russian, ESPECIALLY while the government is weak and the country is still unstable. The idea that there are warmongering Ukrainian gangs, or especially that they are being provoked and supported by government, sounds ridiculous in light of that situation.

That said,there probably are some nationalists in those areas who would be unhappy if after all this "Russia was never there, and was not responsible" fighting and killing that has been going on, if Russia were tomroll in their factories and start pumping gas from the lands they supposedly didn't invade and didn't conquer.
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September 07, 2014, 10:40:59 PM
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Ups...  Cool



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September 07, 2014, 10:59:55 PM
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I feel bad for Strelkov. People like Strelkov and Bezler, who worked extremely hard for the past many months against overwhelming odds were cheated by Putin in the end.

Why do you guys keep saying that they were cheated by Putin? Earlier you were saying that Putin was not sending Russian troops into Ukraine,  that he was not sending in Russian tanks and altilery, that Putin has nothing to do with what's going on in Ukraine, and that its stupid to make demands on Putin and sanction Russia if he is not involved in any way. How can he both be not involved, and cheat them?
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September 07, 2014, 11:03:18 PM
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#Strelkov: "About events happening in #Novorossiya wont comment.To put it mildly Im not happy"

http://vk.com/wall-57424472_16925

Whatever is going on, it is clear that Strelkov is being undermined. The ceasefire benefits only the Ukies, not the NAF (who were winning..)

Not good for Novorossiya.

I feel bad for Strelkov. People like Strelkov and Bezler, who worked extremely hard for the past many months against overwhelming odds were cheated by Putin in the end. When the conflict began, the NAF were outnumbered by the Kiev forces by a factor of one to six. Right now, they are almost equal in the strength of armed forces, with NAF holding the advantage due to its technical superiority. But unfortunately, for Putin the bank accounts of his friends is more important than ensuring the basic fundamental rights of 7 million Donbass citizens.

you better make your conclusions once the events lose any relevance to current political environment in future. give some time and think again once the picture is clearer. we are all watching a grand scale theatre play - where transition of world power is fully justified and understood by all members of this planet. all need to know what we have to know, you know..
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September 07, 2014, 11:58:57 PM
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Why do you guys keep saying that they were cheated by Putin?



Bravo, LOL!! Hey, so you are still at your tacky game of pretending you know something. Rassaah is the famous troll who loves to enter debates, but only to be caught not comprehending what he's reading. Typical low IQ who fools himself he's not through his mouth, not through his brains. What a waste of time but I can't pass this chance to congratulate him he's still alive. I thought he jumped from a building due to sheer stupidityand humiliation.


Analyze again what you wrote and you'll see your IQ hasn't improved yet. Grin Grin Grin


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Last edit: September 08, 2014, 12:16:51 AM by Balthazar
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Sorry guys, but I think that any reasonable person won't dedicate so many time to think about Putin's existance. I remember his name only during reading this thread... Rassaah's messages especially. Cheesy However, it's interesting to see that Rassaah & co have fallen in so deep love with Putin. It's fine that they have some kind of goal in life.
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September 08, 2014, 12:34:50 AM
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There's a report that the Zaporozhje militia has attacked a Ukrainian convoy and they were claiming they are not a part of the DPR/LPR so they were not beholden to the ceasefire. Can somebody confirm this? If it's true, the conflagration has really spread. (BTW, this is the trick to continue with the Novorussia struggle: claim you're not part of the signatories and continue the advance)

Somebody also claimed only Kuchma signed the ceasefire for Kiev, nobody from the regime. But was he authorized or was it all just in his private capacity as former president? This might render the ceasefire unofficial if Kuchma was only a kibitzer





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September 08, 2014, 12:56:12 AM
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Sorry guys, but I think that any reasonable person won't dedicate so many time to think about Putin's existance. I remember his name only during reading this thread... Rassaah's messages especially. Cheesy However, it's interesting to see that Rassaah & co have fallen in so deep love with Putin. It's fine that they have some kind of goal in life.

It probably has something to do with me coming from Ukraine, my family being murdered by soviet Russians, my family's wealth and houses being confiscated by Russians, my remaining family members being persecuted, spied on, blacklisted, and made life very difficult and dangerous for, and after most of us escaping, me still having family members in Ukraine, and friends in Kiev, some of whom were top people in Maidan protests, meaning I could get first hand witness reports about what was going on there, why they were protesting, and who was involved, as well as what has been going on since. Sorry, but I am much more concerned about huylo's troops invading and killing my friends and their families, than I am about Ukraine's weak government and barely sustainable military defending against huylo's "lost" "volunteer" "separatists".

But hey, if you want to remember me for anything else, I've been involved with bitcoin for 3.5 years, I was probably the first to buy a car with bitcoin (bought it for 1,000BTC when they were $22 each), I run Bitcoin100.org charity foundation, the oldest bitcoin charity in existence, I am one of the most trusted people on the forum, holding 150BTC for a charity, and am one of 7 treasurers for the forum, holding 750BTC of this forum's money, I donated and invested heavily in Armory, BitMessage, and Open Transactions since the beginning, I am know for my work with Mycelium, I am present at many bitcoin conventions around the world, where I do speaking presentations on bitcoin charities, new technologies, and wallets, as well as run Ask Bitcoin Experts tables, I have been in multiple bitcoin articles even in things like Wired Magazine and Forbes, and in many bitcoin videos and podcasts, and I personally know and am friends with most of the top known bitcoin people out there. So I'm definitely not just some paid shill troll off the street.

Not really sure who the rest of you nobodies are  Tongue
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September 08, 2014, 01:40:39 AM
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Sorry guys, but I think that any reasonable person won't dedicate so many time to think about Putin's existance. I remember his name only during reading this thread... Rassaah's messages especially. Cheesy However, it's interesting to see that Rassaah & co have fallen in so deep love with Putin. It's fine that they have some kind of goal in life.

It probably has something to do with me coming from Ukraine, my family being murdered by soviet Russians, my family's wealth and houses being confiscated by Russians, my remaining family members being persecuted, spied on, blacklisted, and made life very difficult and dangerous for, and after most of us escaping, me still having family members in Ukraine, and friends in Kiev, some of whom were top people in Maidan protests, meaning I could get first hand witness reports about what was going on there, why they were protesting, and who was involved, as well as what has been going on since. Sorry, but I am much more concerned about huylo's troops invading and killing my friends and their families, than I am about Ukraine's weak government and barely sustainable military defending against huylo's "lost" "volunteer" "separatists".

But hey, if you want to remember me for anything else, I've been involved with bitcoin for 3.5 years, I was probably the first to buy a car with bitcoin (bought it for 1,000BTC when they were $22 each), I run Bitcoin100.org charity foundation, the oldest bitcoin charity in existence, I am one of the most trusted people on the forum, holding 150BTC for a charity, and am one of 7 treasurers for the forum, holding 750BTC of this forum's money, I donated and invested heavily in Armory, BitMessage, and Open Transactions since the beginning, I am know for my work with Mycelium, I am present at many bitcoin conventions around the world, where I do speaking presentations on bitcoin charities, new technologies, and wallets, as well as run Ask Bitcoin Experts tables, I have been in multiple bitcoin articles even in things like Wired Magazine and Forbes, and in many bitcoin videos and podcasts, and I personally know and am friends with most of the top known bitcoin people out there. So I'm definitely not just some paid shill troll off the street.

Not really sure who the rest of you nobodies are  Tongue

The pro-Putin crowd here is a bunch of barely educated half wit fascist PSEUDO-intellectuals,

about to find themselves neck deep in the blood of innocents. It will be a pleasure

and a joy to watch them flip flop like fish out of the water. Only THEN, as life slips away,

will they realize they were WRONG. The whole fucken time. FUCK PUTIN

I shot Reagan- I shot the Pope.
I shot the Devil- there ain't NO HOPE!
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