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January 16, 2015, 02:52:53 PM
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Alpari, who have gone into insolvency today, released this statement from their CEO


"I'm sure this isn't the last we'll hear on the subject and the SNB are going to be heavily scrutinised in the coming weeks for what appears to be a horribly irresponsible move on their part. For years central banks have tried to avoid days like today by being transparent and making moves like this over time while drip feeding their intentions to the markets. The SNB have shown themselves to be amateurs today and there is many people that will suffer considerably as a result."



There was no obligation for people to make trades in an (openly) rigged market. Caveat Emptor.

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January 16, 2015, 03:08:14 PM
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Alpari, who have gone into insolvency today, released this statement from their CEO


"I'm sure this isn't the last we'll hear on the subject and the SNB are going to be heavily scrutinised in the coming weeks for what appears to be a horribly irresponsible move on their part. For years central banks have tried to avoid days like today by being transparent and making moves like this over time while drip feeding their intentions to the markets. The SNB have shown themselves to be amateurs today and there is many people that will suffer considerably as a result."



There was no obligation for people to make trades in an (openly) rigged market. Caveat Emptor.

You sound like a SC proponent.
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January 16, 2015, 03:41:47 PM
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Alpari, who have gone into insolvency today, released this statement from their CEO


"I'm sure this isn't the last we'll hear on the subject and the SNB are going to be heavily scrutinised in the coming weeks for what appears to be a horribly irresponsible move on their part. For years central banks have tried to avoid days like today by being transparent and making moves like this over time while drip feeding their intentions to the markets. The SNB have shown themselves to be amateurs today and there is many people that will suffer considerably as a result."



wow. I used to be a customer there. Amazing that they allowed that to happen.

Bro, do you even blockchain?
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January 16, 2015, 03:46:05 PM
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Alpari, who have gone into insolvency today, released this statement from their CEO


"I'm sure this isn't the last we'll hear on the subject and the SNB are going to be heavily scrutinised in the coming weeks for what appears to be a horribly irresponsible move on their part. For years central banks have tried to avoid days like today by being transparent and making moves like this over time while drip feeding their intentions to the markets. The SNB have shown themselves to be amateurs today and there is many people that will suffer considerably as a result."



wow. I used to be a customer there. Amazing that they allowed that to happen.

whiners gonna whine.

the real question is:  "irresponsible for who?"
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January 16, 2015, 03:48:06 PM
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Alpari, who have gone into insolvency today, released this statement from their CEO


"I'm sure this isn't the last we'll hear on the subject and the SNB are going to be heavily scrutinised in the coming weeks for what appears to be a horribly irresponsible move on their part. For years central banks have tried to avoid days like today by being transparent and making moves like this over time while drip feeding their intentions to the markets. The SNB have shown themselves to be amateurs today and there is many people that will suffer considerably as a result."



There was no obligation for people to make trades in an (openly) rigged market. Caveat Emptor.

You sound like a SC proponent.

I am in favour of whatever works. Preconceived ideas be damned.

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January 16, 2015, 03:53:58 PM
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Cypher (or someone who feels like they can properly explain it): can you please ELI5 why sidechains will break the incentive mechanism? I haven't been able to follow this thread as well as I used to.

I think (cypher can correct me) its because taking transactions off (main)chain reduces fee-based income for miners. When the block reward dwindles after several halving that is their only incentive to mine. If they have no incentive, then they will not mine, the network will become more vulnerable.

eh ok, there must be some way to count off chain transactions and then credit the miners appropriately. I'm not saying this would be a trivial change, but this scenario is probably 10 years away minimum and I find it fairly difficult to believe that there is no way to get around this between now and then.

it has already been coded.

secure, cheap, off-chain tx is a solved problem. SC or max block size increases are not needed for increasing max TX throughput.

PM me if you are genuinely interested and not just shooting the breeze on a forum.

Do you have some kind of white paper?
Is it an open source project?


Do you have some kind of white paper?   NO
Is it an open source project?    maybe yes, maybe no.  the pt is, is it secure and does it make sense economically?

for some, it may make sense economically as they will be willing to take the risk.  that's fine.  i can't stop ppl from making risky, if not downright stupid, decisions with their money.

but what i can try to prevent is "institutionalizing" risky protocol changes (spvp) that benefits a specific for-profit company at the expense of a public good, ie, Bitcoin as Sound Money.  yesterday's CHF decision should continue to highlight what i feel is Bitcoins greater purpose; that of replacing gold with a digital equivalent.  if Bitcoin is based on consensus, i sure won't ever be giving my consent to implementing spvp as i think it sends the wrong message to global markets that a self interested group can change the rules in the middle of the game.
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January 16, 2015, 04:04:08 PM
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here's the zoomed in 1min chart of the EUR/CHF decision.  notice the gap in time btwn the 2nd & 3rd down bars is 54 min.  why?  was it a market halt?  usually, afaik, currency trading in my TOS app is 24/7.  it would be interesting to find out the time of the official release.  also note the initial 2 down bars; frontrunning?  how could it not be?  obviously, a small group of interested men debated this decision for days, weeks, if not months before hand and knew very well the implications.  

this is the disruption of currency markets that all we Bitcoiners have been waiting for:

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January 16, 2015, 04:10:05 PM
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this is the disruption of currency markets that all we Bitcoiners have been waiting for:

AHAHAHAHAHAH.
No offense, but still, you are retarded.
Do you even know what the SNB does? Do you even know that they bought 3 years EUR to hold down the CHF ?

But keep believing you tinfoil hut theory. Better get a job and earn you money than hoping for a BTC miracle.

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January 16, 2015, 04:23:35 PM
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this is the disruption of currency markets that all we Bitcoiners have been waiting for:

AHAHAHAHAHAH.
No offense, but still, you are retarded.
Do you even know what the SNB does? Do you even know that they bought 3 years EUR to hold down the CHF ?

But keep believing you tinfoil hut theory. Better get a job and earn you money than hoping for a BTC miracle.

lol.  thanks for making my points.  yeah, that manipulation is exactly what lead to this mess and a bunch of forex brokers going broke yesterday and today.  great policy moves, dude.  that's what you get when a small bunch of unelected egotistical morons are allowed to control the printing presses of an entire nation which then causes enormous ripple effects across the entire world.  you moron.
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January 16, 2015, 04:30:53 PM
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this is the disruption of currency markets that all we Bitcoiners have been waiting for:
I'd be quite happy with another year of low BTC prices, actually.
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January 16, 2015, 04:33:26 PM
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lol.  thanks for making my points.  yeah, that manipulation is exactly what lead to this mess and a bunch of forex brokers going broke yesterday and today.  great policy moves, dude.  that's what you get when a small bunch of unelected egotistical morons are allowed to control the printing presses of an entire nation which then causes enormous ripple effects across the entire world.  you moron.


You still do not know what the SNB does. They did not print money for the fun of it... but that is hard to understand as tinfoil hut user. Probably you should do their job. Wonderful future with a brain of 4th grader at this position.

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lol.  thanks for making my points.  yeah, that manipulation is exactly what lead to this mess and a bunch of forex brokers going broke yesterday and today.  great policy moves, dude.  that's what you get when a small bunch of unelected egotistical morons are allowed to control the printing presses of an entire nation which then causes enormous ripple effects across the entire world.  you moron.


You still do not know what the SNB does. They did not print money for the fun of it... but that is hard to understand as tinfoil hut user. Probably you should do their job. Wonderful future with a brain of 4th grader at this position.

i know exactly what their stated objective was.  and it was a stupid policy to begin with called "market manipulation".  devaluing the CHF at the expense of the ppl's purchasing power only helps the corporations and gvt.  and don't give me any bullshit about "trickle down" effects.  this is and will always be the dichotomous battle btwn big and little and Bitcoin is shifting the power to choose back to the ppl. 

you'd better look the hell out and buy some Bitcoin before you get left behind.
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January 16, 2015, 04:45:06 PM
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i know exactly what their stated objective was.  and it was a stupid policy to begin with called "market manipulation".  devaluing the CHF at the expense of the ppl's purchasing power only helps the corporations and gvt.  and don't give me any bullshit about "trickle down" effects.  this is and will always be the dichotomous battle btwn big and little and Bitcoin is shifting the power to choose back to the ppl. 

you'd better look the hell out and buy some Bitcoin before you get left behind.

No offense, I still bag hold some BTC from the early days. But sold most of them after the dead cat bounce of the 2013 bubble.
The power back to the PPL? Are you retarded? A few suckers hold most of the BTC in circulation. BTC are even worse distributed than fiat.

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"dead cat" bounce; retracing already:

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i know exactly what their stated objective was.  and it was a stupid policy to begin with called "market manipulation".  devaluing the CHF at the expense of the ppl's purchasing power only helps the corporations and gvt.  and don't give me any bullshit about "trickle down" effects.  this is and will always be the dichotomous battle btwn big and little and Bitcoin is shifting the power to choose back to the ppl. 

you'd better look the hell out and buy some Bitcoin before you get left behind.

No offense, I still bag hold some BTC from the early days. But sold most of them after the dead cat bounce of the 2013 bubble.
The power back to the PPL? Are you retarded? A few suckers hold most of the BTC in circulation. BTC are even worse distributed than fiat.

you just refuted your own point.  you "sold" most of them, aka, distributed them to more ppl.  that's what these huge retraces in price serve to do; redistribute.  750,000 coins traded hands in this last push down.  that's GOOD.  new, fresh, additional strong hands enter the mkt and wait for their profit to be realized in the next push up and they sell.  cycle repeats.  this is how bull mkts work; one continuous rollercoaster ride that bucks most of the "bulls" off to redistribute. 
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January 16, 2015, 04:56:05 PM
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Yeah, also called a ponzi  Wink
We need lots of new retards to buy in to push the price above 1000$.
And most speculators will sell after 200% price increase (otherwise they are plain stupid).

You just need to buy low and sell with a profit. Selling is the most important thing. Without selling you are just another BTC bagholder.

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Without selling you are just another BTC bagholder.

unless i'm right.
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such a small, little box Draghi suddenly finds himself in.  you're dead if you do, you're dead if you don't:

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It is going to be epic.

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draghi doesnt really care about eurchf but more eurusd.. snb cares about eurchf

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