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January 26, 2015, 02:44:04 PM
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Is the news in regards to Coinbase the one that we have been waiting for over a year?
Could this be the next push into a record breaking high?  Wink

It's definitely a big deal. Unprecedented and historic. I have no idea what the eventual price effect will be, but anything is possible here.



The timing of btc backgrounders in major news outlets (ex WSJ) strongly hints that a heavy hitter is moving into the pump phase.
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January 26, 2015, 03:33:10 PM
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Where's my lap dog tvbcof, btw, with all his vomit?

Maybe turning a few tricks to buy some bitcoins?

If I wanted more BTC, I'd simply have put away a fraction of the money I made selling at the 2013/2014 juncture.  I spent it all (or have it earmarked) for property development projects.  Don't worry...I've got a decent amount of powder of the BTC variety dry.

I more or less got the posting bug out of my system over the last few weeks.  The only interesting thing going on recently is the sidechains possibility which is probably the last hope to save Bitcoin as something worth saving.  Also, gearing up for the 'gavincoin' fork war is something I should be focusing my efforts on, but it's such a hassle and a lot of work that I've been remiss...easier to post babble on trolltalk.

I tend not to be 'bullish' or 'bearish'.  Price spikes and drops are just things that happen.  Obviously they are emotionally exciting, but I expect both of them to continue so none of them are big surprises.  I just call things as I see them and tell people what I am doing.  Told people I was buying in the single digits.  Told people I was selling in the four digits.  Told people a few days ago that I'd probably be buying right now if I had no BTC and some money to gamble with.  Maybe that's what turned the market around.  Who knows?  I mean anyone who is watching will probably listen to my thoughts more than the perma-bull bozos who look indistinguishable from pump-n-dump scammers.


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January 26, 2015, 04:57:33 PM
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Where's my lap dog tvbcof, btw, with all his vomit?

Maybe turning a few tricks to buy some bitcoins?

If I wanted more BTC, I'd simply have put away a fraction of the money I made selling at the 2013/2014 juncture.  I spent it all (or have it earmarked) for property development projects.  Don't worry...I've got a decent amount of powder of the BTC variety dry.

I more or less got the posting bug out of my system over the last few weeks.  The only interesting thing going on recently is the sidechains possibility which is probably the last hope to save Bitcoin as something worth saving.  Also, gearing up for the 'gavincoin' fork war is something I should be focusing my efforts on, but it's such a hassle and a lot of work that I've been remiss...easier to post babble on trolltalk.

I tend not to be 'bullish' or 'bearish'.  Price spikes and drops are just things that happen.  Obviously they are emotionally exciting, but I expect both of them to continue so none of them are big surprises.  I just call things as I see them and tell people what I am doing.  Told people I was buying in the single digits.  Told people I was selling in the four digits.  Told people a few days ago that I'd probably be buying right now if I had no BTC and some money to gamble with.  Maybe that's what turned the market around.  Who knows?  I mean anyone who is watching will probably listen to my thoughts more than the perma-bull bozos who look indistinguishable from pump-n-dump scammers.



more BS vomit from your lips.

nope, your posting frequency, negativity pitch, and SC pump correlated directly with the price slump down into the capitulatory low of 152.  typical for an emotional and confused momentum follower of Bitcoin such as yourself.  just read the contradictions in your post.  another attempt by you to cover all the bases so that when a counter trend move occurs, you can say you called it.

furthermore, such a high opinion of yourself:

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Maybe that's what turned the market around.

a bunch of guys just a few posts above were making fun of themselves about how their actions caused the rally.  of course, they were just joking.  you, otoh, actually believe your deluded remarks actually MAY HAVE moved the market.  lol.
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January 26, 2015, 05:33:12 PM
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Is the news in regards to Coinbase the one that we have been waiting for over a year?
Could this be the next push into a record breaking high?  Wink
It's definitely a big deal. Unprecedented and historic. I have no idea what the eventual price effect will be, but anything is possible here.
This is the first regulated exchange right?
At least it is the first one in the US. Also the news is still fresh. I think we will see a lot of price movement once people get their money into the new exchange (will take a few more days).

Other US exchanges are complaining that they were first and are regulated too.  But Coinbase got 70 million dollars to buy the truth.  Wink

Just think how much truth you can buy when you control a central bank.

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January 26, 2015, 06:00:37 PM
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Just think how much truth you can buy when you control a central bank.
Way too much. This is why we are here, this is why Bitcoin is here.


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January 26, 2015, 06:13:32 PM
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more bank runs on deck:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/russias-sb-bank-stops-client-withdrawals-1422289217?mod=wsj_nview_latest
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January 26, 2015, 06:18:38 PM
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If I were Russian, I would be Russian to Bitcoin right now!  Cheesy
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January 26, 2015, 06:34:43 PM
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been meaning to put this chart up to demonstrate that a blue chip stock like UPS moves with even more volatility and rapidity than Bitcoin.  in fact, it's worse as the move occurs during after hours when most investors have no access to markets.  a pessimist might actually think the system was designed this way:

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January 26, 2015, 07:03:52 PM
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It is easy to be critical of the reluctance shown by EU policy makers when it comes to debt restructuring, but it needs to be remembered that the United States is the great engine of financial instability in the global financial markets.

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/super-marios-desperate-qe-gamble-save-europe-12106
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January 26, 2015, 10:03:37 PM
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Just think how much truth you can buy when you control a central bank.
Way too much. This is why we are here, this is why Bitcoin is here.

This is why Eternal Vigilance is needed. Just think of all the systems that they have corrupted already, it's improbable that Bitcoin can be "saved" but as long as it does function, it is waay better than all the current alternatives.
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January 27, 2015, 01:00:54 AM
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Fred Ehrsam agrees:  there will only be one

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102367943
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If I wanted more BTC, I'd simply have put away a fraction of the money I made selling at the 2013/2014 juncture.  I spent it all (or have it earmarked) for property development projects.  Don't worry...I've got a decent amount of powder of the BTC variety dry.

I more or less got the posting bug out of my system over the last few weeks.  The only interesting thing going on recently is the sidechains possibility which is probably the last hope to save Bitcoin as something worth saving.  Also, gearing up for the 'gavincoin' fork war is something I should be focusing my efforts on, but it's such a hassle and a lot of work that I've been remiss...easier to post babble on trolltalk.

I tend not to be 'bullish' or 'bearish'.  Price spikes and drops are just things that happen.  Obviously they are emotionally exciting, but I expect both of them to continue so none of them are big surprises.  I just call things as I see them and tell people what I am doing.  Told people I was buying in the single digits.  Told people I was selling in the four digits.  Told people a few days ago that I'd probably be buying right now if I had no BTC and some money to gamble with.  Maybe that's what turned the market around.  Who knows?  I mean anyone who is watching will probably listen to my thoughts more than the perma-bull bozos who look indistinguishable from pump-n-dump scammers.


more BS vomit from your lips.

nope, your posting frequency, negativity pitch, and SC pump correlated directly with the price slump down into the capitulatory low of 152.  typical for an emotional and confused momentum follower of Bitcoin such as yourself.  just read the contradictions in your post.  another attempt by you to cover all the bases so that when a counter trend move occurs, you can say you called it.
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Why should I 'cover my bases'?  I couldn't give two shits what other people think.  They can listen to folks like me who have a track record of infrequent but dead on calls (which is as I've always said mostly dumb luck) or they can listen to perma-pumpers like cypherdoc and go broke.  <shrug>  I'm happy if I have helped some folks over the years of course, but it's not my main goal.

In other news, while ~goat was buying a Ferrari with his winnings at 4 figures, I was buying some property which I've been developing over the year.  His purchase has depreciated a lot.  Mine, OTOH, has increased dramatically, and I'm in much better physical shape since I've done a lot of the work myself.  Thank god that Bitcoin didn't come along 20 years ago else I'd probably have a Ferrari which would cost a ton to insure as well and which I probably would have already crashed due to my (now outgrown) penchant  for taking corners at speed.  Today the water well drillers hit 5 GPM at only 40 feet on my new property.  It's going to cost me like 5 BTC.  Had I followed Cypherdoc's advice and not planned a head a bit it would have been more like 20 BTC.


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January 27, 2015, 03:08:39 AM
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If I wanted more BTC, I'd simply have put away a fraction of the money I made selling at the 2013/2014 juncture.  I spent it all (or have it earmarked) for property development projects.  Don't worry...I've got a decent amount of powder of the BTC variety dry.

I more or less got the posting bug out of my system over the last few weeks.  The only interesting thing going on recently is the sidechains possibility which is probably the last hope to save Bitcoin as something worth saving.  Also, gearing up for the 'gavincoin' fork war is something I should be focusing my efforts on, but it's such a hassle and a lot of work that I've been remiss...easier to post babble on trolltalk.

I tend not to be 'bullish' or 'bearish'.  Price spikes and drops are just things that happen.  Obviously they are emotionally exciting, but I expect both of them to continue so none of them are big surprises.  I just call things as I see them and tell people what I am doing.  Told people I was buying in the single digits.  Told people I was selling in the four digits.  Told people a few days ago that I'd probably be buying right now if I had no BTC and some money to gamble with.  Maybe that's what turned the market around.  Who knows?  I mean anyone who is watching will probably listen to my thoughts more than the perma-bull bozos who look indistinguishable from pump-n-dump scammers.


more BS vomit from your lips.

nope, your posting frequency, negativity pitch, and SC pump correlated directly with the price slump down into the capitulatory low of 152.  typical for an emotional and confused momentum follower of Bitcoin such as yourself.  just read the contradictions in your post.  another attempt by you to cover all the bases so that when a counter trend move occurs, you can say you called it.
...

Why should I 'cover my bases'?  I couldn't give two shits what other people think.  They can listen to folks like me who have a track record of infrequent but dead on calls (which is as I've always said mostly dumb luck) or they can listen to perma-pumpers like cypherdoc and go broke.  <shrug>  I'm happy if I have helped some folks over the years of course, but it's not my main goal.

In other news, while ~goat was buying a Ferrari with his winnings at 4 figures, I was buying some property which I've been developing over the year.  His purchase has depreciated a lot.  Mine, OTOH, has increased dramatically, and I'm in much better physical shape since I've done a lot of the work myself.  Thank god that Bitcoin didn't come along 20 years ago else I'd probably have a Ferrari which would cost a ton to insure as well and which I probably would have already crashed due to my (now outgrown) penchant  for taking corners at speed.  Today the water well drillers hit 5 GPM at only 40 feet on my new property.  It's going to cost me like 5 BTC.  Had I followed Cypherdoc's advice and not planned a head a bit it would have been more like 20 BTC.



sure you did. sure.  i don't remember any dead on calls from you at all.  just constant complaining.  and i have not been recommending buying all the way down from the top.  nice try.

from all your comments, i don't think you understand Bitcoin.
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January 27, 2015, 03:21:40 AM
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Why should I 'cover my bases'?  I couldn't give two shits what other people think.  They can listen to folks like me who have a track record of infrequent but dead on calls (which is as I've always said mostly dumb luck) or they can listen to perma-pumpers like cypherdoc and go broke.  <shrug>  I'm happy if I have helped some folks over the years of course, but it's not my main goal.

In other news, while ~goat was buying a Ferrari with his winnings at 4 figures, I was buying some property which I've been developing over the year.  His purchase has depreciated a lot.  Mine, OTOH, has increased dramatically, and I'm in much better physical shape since I've done a lot of the work myself.  Thank god that Bitcoin didn't come along 20 years ago else I'd probably have a Ferrari which would cost a ton to insure as well and which I probably would have already crashed due to my (now outgrown) penchant  for taking corners at speed.  Today the water well drillers hit 5 GPM at only 40 feet on my new property.  It's going to cost me like 5 BTC.  Had I followed Cypherdoc's advice and not planned a head a bit it would have been more like 20 BTC.

sure you did. sure.  i don't remember any dead on calls from you at all.  just constant complaining.  and i have not been recommending buying all the way down from the top.  nice try.

Everything of any complexity has at least some pitfalls, and can be looked at differently from different angles.  I simply point these out.  All through the decline I have pointed out the various contrarian positives one some threads where negativity is pronounced.  This thread is so full of hyper-pumpers there is usually not much need for doing so.

  - edit:  Surely you recognize that buying at $2.00, selling at $1000, then buying back at $250 is a winning strategy over buying at $1000 then lower if you have any money coming in.  Maybe not.  Here's my tip for doing better financially:  'Buy low, Sell high.'  Unfortunately that's a little to complex for cypherdoc.


from all your comments, i don't think you understand Bitcoin.

I don't understand it as a micro-payment system as you called for a few pages back.  Good luck with that.  You really have not got a clue and are just desperately grasping at anything which could you could vaguely argue proves you right after being so wrong for a year.  Pathetic.  And hurtful to Bitcoin as well if anyone listens to you at all any more.


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Why should I 'cover my bases'?  I couldn't give two shits what other people think.  They can listen to folks like me who have a track record of infrequent but dead on calls (which is as I've always said mostly dumb luck) or they can listen to perma-pumpers like cypherdoc and go broke.  <shrug>  I'm happy if I have helped some folks over the years of course, but it's not my main goal.

In other news, while ~goat was buying a Ferrari with his winnings at 4 figures, I was buying some property which I've been developing over the year.  His purchase has depreciated a lot.  Mine, OTOH, has increased dramatically, and I'm in much better physical shape since I've done a lot of the work myself.  Thank god that Bitcoin didn't come along 20 years ago else I'd probably have a Ferrari which would cost a ton to insure as well and which I probably would have already crashed due to my (now outgrown) penchant  for taking corners at speed.  Today the water well drillers hit 5 GPM at only 40 feet on my new property.  It's going to cost me like 5 BTC.  Had I followed Cypherdoc's advice and not planned a head a bit it would have been more like 20 BTC.

sure you did. sure.  i don't remember any dead on calls from you at all.  just constant complaining.  and i have not been recommending buying all the way down from the top.  nice try.

Everything of any complexity has at least some pitfalls, and can be looked at differently from different angles.  I simply point these out.  All through the decline I have pointed out the various contrarian positives one some threads where negativity is pronounced.  This thread is so full of hyper-pumpers there is usually not much need for doing so.

  - edit:  Surely you recognize that buying at $2.00, selling at $1000, then buying back at $250 is a winning strategy over buying at $1000 then lower if you have any money coming in.  Maybe not.  Here's my tip for doing better financially:  'Buy low, Sell high.'  Unfortunately that's a little to complex for cypherdoc.


from all your comments, i don't think you understand Bitcoin.

I don't understand it as a micro-payment system as you called for a few pages back.  Good luck with that.  You really have not got a clue and are just desperately grasping at anything which could you could vaguely argue proves you right after being so wrong for a year.  Pathetic.  And hurtful to Bitcoin as well if anyone listens to you at all any more.



i think it has great potential as a micropayment network.  Satoshi dice proved that as are many current gambling sites.  Changetip works well and should spread the use of Bitcoin widely.  if fees can be kept down (i think they can) uses in Africa and India will bear fruit. we're already seeing it, especially in Southeast Asia.  getting those millions of users online with Bitcoin will solidify usage both politically and economically.

keeping fees down will allow embedding of contract hashes like we're seeing with POE.  that will drive thousands of fee paying tx's which will help miners make the transition from block rewards to fees.  it's happening right in front of your face.
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January 27, 2015, 07:55:57 AM
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The FED wants to reinvent Bitcoin! Except very slowly and in a way that does not cut it out of the game.

https://fedpaymentsimprovement.org

(Jan 26/2015) The Federal Reserve System is pleased to release Strategies for Improving the U.S. Payment System, a multi-faceted plan for collaborating with payment system stakeholders to enhance the speed, safety and efficiency of the U.S. payment system.


https://fedpaymentsimprovement.org/wp-content/uploads/strategies-improving-us-payment-system.pdf

The document identifies vast inefficiencies in legacy payment systems, and proposes all sorts of inititiatives, task forces, forums, and the FED's leadership to bring things up to date.

Next steps include things like:
"Phase 3 (2016 or beyond): Explore the technology, infrastructure and operational and resource changes required to support weekend and/or 24x7 operating hours [for the National Settlement Service]". (p.21)

Bitcoin is not mentioned, but we have:

Design options not selected for further review:
"A digital transfer vehicle was not considered a sufficiently mature technology at this time, but was identified for further exploration and monitoring given significant interest in the marketplace. It is noteworthy that Option 2 (leverage distributed architecture), which was selected for further exploration, has certain similarities to this option with respect to leveraging decentralized IP networks for point-to-point communications." (p.42)

In case you are curious, Option 2 is:
"Facilitate direct clearing between financial institutions on public IP networks using common protocols and standards for sending and receiving payments. A distributed architecture for messaging between financial institutions over public IP networks has the potential to lower costs compared to clearing transactions over a hub-and-spoke network architecture. A central authority would establish common protocols for messaging standards, communication, security and logging transactions in a central ledger to facilitate subsequent interbank settlement. The central authority would also establish the rules of the system. Participating institutions could directly exchange credit-push transactions with (near) real- time authorization/clearing and the payer’s bank guarantee of good funds." (p.41)

You are late, FED. Temporally and conceptually late.  



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January 27, 2015, 08:24:30 AM
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... until bitcoin came along they would have denied there were any problems.

Basically, because of bitcoin they have examined their system and now recognize it is old, broken, dysfunctional ... I would add corrupt, riddled with cronyism, systemically fraudulent and insolvent.

tl;dr sell US federal reserve notes (or any unverifiable electronic promises issued by the same)

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January 27, 2015, 02:36:32 PM
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Nice

NYSE Invokes Rule 48 To Pre-Empt Selling Panic

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-27/nyse-invokes-rule-48-pre-empt-selling-panic
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January 27, 2015, 02:39:04 PM
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Centralized Bitcoin exchanges need to divorce themselves from the libertarian paradigm.

Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
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January 27, 2015, 02:50:31 PM
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I've said repeatedly that markets won't like usd strength over the long run.

Market Wrap: Futures Tumble On Spike Of "Strong Dollar" Earnings Disappointments And Profit Warnings

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-27/market-wrap-futures-slide-spike-strong-dollar-earnings-disappointments-and-profit-wa
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