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January 27, 2015, 03:04:28 PM
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Centralized Bitcoin exchanges need to divorce themselves from the libertarian paradigm.
Solve this:

1) We dont have centralized, "serious" exchanges like the Gemini or Coinbase one, which leads to old big money not comming in.

2) We have centralized exchanges which means we get to deal with wall street bastards and risk the price being rigged, also risk on the exchanges being a failure again killing bitcoin due lack of trust.

How to solve this?? afaik, decentralized exchanges dont allow for proper trading.

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January 27, 2015, 03:10:55 PM
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Centralized Bitcoin exchanges need to divorce themselves from the libertarian paradigm.
Solve this:

1) We dont have centralized, "serious" exchanges like the Gemini or Coinbase one, which leads to old big money not comming in.

2) We have centralized exchanges which means we get to deal with wall street bastards and risk the price being rigged, also risk on the exchanges being a failure again killing bitcoin due lack of trust.

How to solve this?? afaik, decentralized exchanges dont allow for proper trading.
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I want to see a bitcoin exchange that doesn't give a fuck. Keep bankers hours. Ring a bell at opening and closing. Develop a good OTC trading board. Buy and/or hire Trezor. Offer Trezor support for security, multisig deposits and withdrawals, and after hours OTC trading only.
The libertarian paradigm must be divorced from centralized exchanges. They can only work on decentralized exchanges. DEXs will flourish when they find their niche as arbitrage markets between regulated traditional markets.
Take a good look at Tether and develop your own Winkelvoss dollar backed colored coin. Maybe you can leverage it against your ETF profits.

Tether is a colored coin (Mastercoin-style) that pegs USD or any other fiat to bitcoin metadata. These can be used for crypto pairings on DEXs.

Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
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January 27, 2015, 03:11:02 PM
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Centralized Bitcoin exchanges need to divorce themselves from the libertarian paradigm.
Solve this:

1) We dont have centralized, "serious" exchanges like the Gemini or Coinbase one, which leads to old big money not comming in.

2) We have centralized exchanges which means we get to deal with wall street bastards and risk the price being rigged, also risk on the exchanges being a failure again killing bitcoin due lack of trust.

How to solve this?? afaik, decentralized exchanges dont allow for proper trading.

i've thought of this alot.

the only way to solve it is to have multiple international exchanges in jurisdictions that are actually hostile to the US, like we already have in China and Russia.  next, provable audits, either thru Merkle trees or something better, along with real audits.  the bar needs to be set higher to prevent naked shorting.
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January 27, 2015, 03:22:53 PM
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hmmm, normally when we see huge gap opening gap downs like this on the Dow, it immediately starts grinding back up higher oftentimes to being flat before dropping once again.  we aren't seeing that this morning...
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January 27, 2015, 03:25:34 PM
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-320
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January 27, 2015, 03:36:17 PM
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gathering pace:  -351
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January 27, 2015, 03:39:06 PM
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MSFT needs to go full Bitcoin:

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January 27, 2015, 03:43:29 PM
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ugly.  i thought everything was peachy keen?



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January 27, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
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dow -383

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January 27, 2015, 03:45:38 PM
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oh yes, getting interesting now:  -388
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January 27, 2015, 03:47:10 PM
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here's the interesting thing which i brought up last week.

what if the dollar starts dropping along with stocks?
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January 27, 2015, 03:55:19 PM
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the black hole shit continues to swirl consuming everything in its path:

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January 27, 2015, 03:57:47 PM
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is this just from a blizzard?  Huh Why today?

Bro, do you even blockchain?
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January 27, 2015, 03:59:30 PM
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is this just from a blizzard?  Huh Why today?

b/c JR had his Austin meetup the other night.
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January 27, 2015, 04:11:17 PM
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Bitcoin has no competition:

This is possible because of two flaws with the system. Most problematically, it's easy for hackers to steal credit card numbers from stores, and then sell those numbers online. That's a fundamental problem with the credit-card system (and especially the stupid dumb magnetic stripes they all use), and something that Apple Pay is just an unwitting victim of.

The second issue, however, is specific to Apple Pay. In short, banks aren't taking the proper measures to ensure that the credit card owner is the one using the credit card in Apple Pay. According to Drop Labs, most banks use a phone call to authenticate when a card is loaded into Apple Pay, a method that's woefully inadequate.


http://gizmodo.com/turns-out-apple-pay-cant-solve-credit-card-fraud-1681932420
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January 27, 2015, 04:25:09 PM
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there are actually plenty of reasons for the USD to fall, one of the most practical being that US corporations find it harder to compete overseas making the spectre of another Fed easing rather viable.  other reasons:

http://www.businessinsider.com/iran-is-ditching-the-dollar-in-foreign-trade-2015-1

the counter balance, of course, is the huge amount of USD denominated loans, especially overseas, that if it implodes will put upward pressure on the USD.
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January 27, 2015, 04:53:38 PM
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the simple fact that Bitcoin is unaffected despite the turmoil in traditional markets is telling.
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January 27, 2015, 05:09:26 PM
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Bitcoin has become a valid "hedge" or alternative asset class that will become recognized by hedge funds and financial risk analysts.
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January 27, 2015, 05:29:45 PM
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Central banks everywhere should be sure to own everything that is happening now:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-27/bonds-third-largest-austrian-bank-are-crashing
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January 27, 2015, 06:00:14 PM
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oh wait... that's the bank bitstamp is working with and where the funds are  Shocked
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