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August 06, 2011, 06:17:04 PM
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Ok I'm going to be releasing a beta version very soon I think with all the changes in the amd world.  Undecided
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August 06, 2011, 08:24:56 PM
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Which kernel version of phatk ist implemented in the actual linuxcoin? Is it allready 2.1 or later 2.2?

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August 06, 2011, 09:07:33 PM
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I'll test the new one when you post it, but frankly for a portable wallet 21b is far superior to the latest versions.
lol I'll quote one of your lines on that one "ye knows not of what he speaks" Wink Would you like to explain why ?
Too confusing for the average user with the multiple choices.
In what context ? the whole thing or just the bitcoin client ?

I recognize that 99% of the usability and users of LinuxCoin is for mining and miners.

My primary interest is to have an offline wallet system for the average user. Towards that effort I made the following posts:

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Post #1078 P54

BitCoin Client Selection Suggestions.

PASSWORD
Being that you mentioned you were re-doing the Password issues of the secure bitcoin selection I did not bother to test as I had planned but will offer this set of suggestions:

I strongly suggest that you do *not* have a secure and non secure bitcoin client options. This will invariably lead to supreme confusion with average users.

Just have one bitcoin selection which asks for a password (none of that silly mount dev stuff please). The password can be <Enter> (I would suggest this on fresh startup). Upon successful entry of existing password user should be allowed option to change password or continue directly to bitcoin client.

BACKUP
It would be extremely helpful if there was an easy (GUI) way for the user to email the encrypted wallet.dat file (with the same password used for entry to bitcoin). It would be best if this file could be unencrypted in both windows and Linux, but if only Linuxcoin that will suffice.

BOOTUP
Please get something on screen quicker and leave the splash screen, or at least text saying one moment please. Those long black screens make one feel like nothing is happening.

SHUTDOWN
Seems to take forever and that black screen of death sucks. Do something as soon as I click shutdown and let me know when to take out the usb like the last version did. I seem to wait an eternity and when I do yank the usb it freaks out and vomits text all over the screen

BROWSER
The new browser is ugly and seems incredibly slow. I would prefer a return to chromium. It would be *really* nice if java was installed.

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Well I am extremely disapointed. The bitcoin client password tool does not work at all.

It does not matter what I pick, secured or unsecured I get the same wallet

In secured it does not matter what I type in or don't type as a password I see the same wallet

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You have created a tool that is the beginning of a near perfect USB offline wallet system, but IMHO the average (not techie miner) person does not quite have have the ability to understand and use the newer system easily. I spent hours fiddling with passwords and gave up in frustration.

Cryptkeeper for the 21b helps, but the passwording scheme described above would be near perfect (again IMHO) if it were possible to implement.

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August 06, 2011, 09:16:59 PM
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I strongly suggest that you do *not* have a secure and non secure bitcoin client options. This will invariably lead to supreme confusion with average users.

I have to agree with this one.

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BACKUP
It would be extremely helpful if there was an easy (GUI) way for the user to email the encrypted wallet.dat file (with the same password used for entry to bitcoin). It would be best if this file could be unencrypted in both windows and Linux, but if only Linuxcoin that will suffice.

Someone  Roll Eyes might start working on something like this soon. But it would be ideal if the GUI (or the client) told you when you needed to backup your wallet again. It could be done easier than it sounds. The program just needs to remember the date of the last backup and the client has a rpc command that provides the creation date of the first address in the queue. Comparing the two dates you can tell the user if a new backup is needed or not. The only problem is communiticating with the wallet, because opening the jsonrpc only for this seems a bad deal because of the security problems it could bring.

Both bootup and shutdown work fine here.

And I would suggest extrongly against java and no need for a good browser. LinuxCoin is meant to be secure. There is really no need to use it to visit the web and stuff.
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August 06, 2011, 09:34:05 PM
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And I would suggest extrongly against java and no need for a good browser. LinuxCoin is meant to be secure. There is really no need to use it to visit the web and stuff.

Booting in Transient mode has turned out to be much more popular than I thought. The chromium browser works *much* better than the new one.

It seems some are very interested in browsing the web while not leaving any droppings or becoming infected.

I get the very distinct impression from most that I talk to that they could not care less about bitcoin but love the idea of secure browsing.

Whodathunkit?

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August 06, 2011, 10:49:13 PM
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My next goal is probably being done already by some of you more linux savvy folks. I'm looking for an executable  script that once Linuxcoin was launched would:

1) configure 4 GPUs (one 5830 and 3x 5850s) with overclocking and 80% fans;

2) launch four interations of AMDOverdriveCtrl (or some other monitoring app) to track GPU temps/performance; and,

3) logon and start four deepbit pool miners.

This is totally over my head, so suggestions are welcome.

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August 06, 2011, 11:05:44 PM
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My next goal is probably being done already by some of you more linux savvy folks. I'm looking for an executable  script that once Linuxcoin was launched would:

1) configure 4 GPUs (one 5830 and 3x 5850s) with overclocking and 80% fans;

2) launch four interations of AMDOverdriveCtrl (or some other monitoring app) to track GPU temps/performance; and,

3) logon and start four deepbit pool miners.

This is totally over my head, so suggestions are welcome.

Have you tried smartcoin yet, it can do all of this and its pre-installed on linuxcoin

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August 06, 2011, 11:12:34 PM
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My next goal is probably being done already by some of you more linux savvy folks. I'm looking for an executable  script that once Linuxcoin was launched would:

1) configure 4 GPUs (one 5830 and 3x 5850s) with overclocking and 80% fans;

2) launch four interations of AMDOverdriveCtrl (or some other monitoring app) to track GPU temps/performance; and,

3) logon and start four deepbit pool miners.

This is totally over my head, so suggestions are welcome.

I will provide the framework..

copy the /bin/start_mining.sh to ~/myminer.sh
edit this file
 - pre-populate the variables
 - remove the loop
 - and utilize the wonderful functions provided!

so long as your using persistence this will remain on reboot.

you will graduate 'shell script editing 101' as this would be a rewarding and educational experience!

for extra credit create another script and cron job to check and relaunch the ~/myminer.sh if rebooted.
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August 06, 2011, 11:36:07 PM
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Thanks for these suggestions. I see I have some homework to accomplish ;-)

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August 07, 2011, 09:25:00 AM
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New feature to linuxcoin !!

https://tails.boum.org/contribute/design/memory_erasure/

And I would suggest extrongly against java and no need for a good browser. LinuxCoin is meant to be secure. There is really no need to use it to visit the web and stuff.

Booting in Transient mode has turned out to be much more popular than I thought. The chromium browser works *much* better than the new one.

It seems some are very interested in browsing the web while not leaving any droppings or becoming infected.

I get the very distinct impression from most that I talk to that they could not care less about bitcoin but love the idea of secure browsing.

Whodathunkit?

I cannot do much more about the boot. I'm not going to compromise security over a fast boot. I've explained the reasons why the boot now takes longer than usual. I've fixed the shutdown problems. On my system it takes around 30 seconds to shutdown.

iceweasel is more secure than chromium. There's nothing stopping you from installing after downloading. The reason why I dropped chromium is because iceweasel compliments tor. There's a nice button at the top right of the browser. If you set it on then you are browsing anonymous. The reason why it's slow to load is because of the pax security features.

Also I'm not going to add java but you can also do this via the package manager. I will also include a standard kernel option very soon. I just wanted to get things user friendly before I start adding features like that. Bitcoin has taken a knock in the security dept. I'm trying to create an environment that is as safe and secure as possible.

i will drop the secure bitcoin client because the bitcoin client included in linuxcoin has the option to encrypt your wallet Wink
 
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August 07, 2011, 06:48:09 PM
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@drgr33n,

Using the new UNetbootin to install 0.2-Final with 2000MB persistence on 4GB flash drive. On my Gaming/Miner with 2x 5830 CrossFired, which has been working fine under the old UNetbootin build, I get his red star error after the Linuxcoin splash screen and halts with CLI:

Code:
Startpar: service(s) returned failure: isc-dhcp-server
Last login: Sun Aug 7 18:13:19 UTC 2011 on tty3
Linux linuxcoin 2.6.39-3-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 25 11:22:19 UTC 2011 x86_64

I assume linuxcoin is not able to get an IP address through DHCP. This machine boots into Win7-64 just fine and obtains an IP address.

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August 07, 2011, 07:07:50 PM
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@drgr33n,

Using the new UNetbootin to install 0.2-Final with 2000MB persistence on 4GB flash drive. On my Gaming/Miner with 2x 5830 CrossFired, which has been working fine under the old UNetbootin build, I get his red star error after the Linuxcoin splash screen and halts with CLI:

Code:
Startpar: service(s) returned failure: isc-dhcp-server
Last login: Sun Aug 7 18:13:19 UTC 2011 on tty3
Linux linuxcoin 2.6.39-3-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 25 11:22:19 UTC 2011 x86_64

I assume linuxcoin is not able to get an IP address through DHCP. This machine boots into Win7-64 just fine and obtains an IP address.

You sis format your USB drive before starting right ? It looks like you might have some persistent space loaded from your last install if it's prompting Last login: Sun Aug 7 18:13:19 UTC 2011 on tty3 ? Just a thought. If not send me your dmesg output.
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August 07, 2011, 07:09:02 PM
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Now If I would put my miners on this how would I overclock?
I assume linux has no msi after burner like porgram,

Personly im not a big fan of linux but something like this is quite smart, and a good use for linux.....


Also could I just install this to the hard drive of the miners, as I have goten hard drives for my miners, even if they are 15-40 gigs,

Now that said, Is it worth my time to migrate my miners from windows xp and windows 7 just to mine with linux? Would I get better Mhash? like 10-15 is great

Does the miner in linux have a gui like guiminer?

I hate comand line,


I"m sorry if that has been aswered before but I just can not sit thouhg and surf for stuff
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August 07, 2011, 07:40:26 PM
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@drgr33n,

Using the new UNetbootin to install 0.2-Final with 2000MB persistence on 4GB flash drive. On my Gaming/Miner with 2x 5830 CrossFired, which has been working fine under the old UNetbootin build, I get his red star error after the Linuxcoin splash screen and halts with CLI:

Code:
Startpar: service(s) returned failure: isc-dhcp-server
Last login: Sun Aug 7 18:13:19 UTC 2011 on tty3
Linux linuxcoin 2.6.39-3-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 25 11:22:19 UTC 2011 x86_64

I assume linuxcoin is not able to get an IP address through DHCP. This machine boots into Win7-64 just fine and obtains an IP address.

You sis format your USB drive before starting right ? It looks like you might have some persistent space loaded from your last install if it's prompting Last login: Sun Aug 7 18:13:19 UTC 2011 on tty3 ? Just a thought. If not send me your dmesg output.
@drgr33n,

Yep, did a format (FAT32) of the 4GB flash drive prior to using the new UNetbootin. Pardon this dumb linux-noob question, but do I type "dmesg" at the CLI when it halts?

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August 07, 2011, 07:48:41 PM
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Just a thought would you guys like to see CUDA support in 1.0-alpha ?

@drgr33n,

Using the new UNetbootin to install 0.2-Final with 2000MB persistence on 4GB flash drive. On my Gaming/Miner with 2x 5830 CrossFired, which has been working fine under the old UNetbootin build, I get his red star error after the Linuxcoin splash screen and halts with CLI:

Code:
Startpar: service(s) returned failure: isc-dhcp-server
Last login: Sun Aug 7 18:13:19 UTC 2011 on tty3
Linux linuxcoin 2.6.39-3-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 25 11:22:19 UTC 2011 x86_64

I assume linuxcoin is not able to get an IP address through DHCP. This machine boots into Win7-64 just fine and obtains an IP address.

You sis format your USB drive before starting right ? It looks like you might have some persistent space loaded from your last install if it's prompting Last login: Sun Aug 7 18:13:19 UTC 2011 on tty3 ? Just a thought. If not send me your dmesg output.
@drgr33n,

Yep, did a format (FAT32) of the 4GB flash drive prior to using the new UNetbootin. Pardon this dumb linux-noob question, but do I type "dmesg" at the CLI when it halts?

Yes if you type

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dmesg > dmesg.log

and you can upload the file somewhere if you like.
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August 07, 2011, 08:12:48 PM
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Hi,

very nice one! I am using it some days now and its great. Actually i only use it as a safe wallet, but maybe i will give it a try on my mining rig when i have the time.

I would have some questions.

I was able to change the clock for my timezone. But how can i change the keyboard to german layout? And i also tried to use tor, but when i but it on in browser it says that proxy test was not succesful and i cannot browse any site... what am i making wrong?

thanks and regards
happy LinuxCoin User Smiley
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August 08, 2011, 01:40:22 AM
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Hi,

very nice one! I am using it some days now and its great. Actually i only use it as a safe wallet, but maybe i will give it a try on my mining rig when i have the time.

I would have some questions.

I was able to change the clock for my timezone. But how can i change the keyboard to german layout? And i also tried to use tor, but when i but it on in browser it says that proxy test was not succesful and i cannot browse any site... what am i making wrong?

thanks and regards
happy LinuxCoin User Smiley

You might have to restart the services

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sudo /etc/init.d/tor restart
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August 08, 2011, 03:03:22 AM
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How do i surf anonymously with the browser?

I read a few posts back then there is like a toggle built in the browser to turn this feature on?


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August 08, 2011, 03:06:54 AM
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For the guys struggling with my HDD install video. Its due to the hightened security PaX will not let grub probe anything lol. heres a fix.

Code:
for i in $(ls /usr/sbin | grep grub); do
  paxctl -C /usr/sbin/$i
  paxctl -cE /usr/sbin/$i
done
grub-install /dev/sdX
update-grub

I should be rolling out the HDD installer with a nice QT interface over the weekend Wink

I will wait for the HD installer then, i tried the above code. It still does not work. It wasn able to install Grub (something about Blocklist of the HD and hence Grub does not install)

I put the loop code in a script, then ran it. Then i manual called grub-install and update grub.


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August 08, 2011, 04:13:48 AM
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After drgreen pointed out to me for my problem I was missing a period. After solving that problem, the next step I could not mount anything [could not be mounted, location does not exist error, as I checked, the location did exist ]. I gave up trying to install it to hdd and will wait for the installer.

Sounds really exciting as described how tight the security is, I cannot wait, in excitement to use  Smiley.
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