[XMR] Monero Speculation

[smoothie]

Let's speculate on when the GUI will debut. I'll guess: 4/20/16

My guess is GUI will be out no earlier than September 1st, 2016.

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[jehst]

I made some people angry by saying 2017, so I'll change it:

12/25/16

[jehst]

I couldn't resist. I've started moving from USD into altcoins today. It's going to take a few weeks to move in because of the low liquidity anyway.

[GingerAle]

I made some people angry by saying 2017, so I'll change it:

12/25/16

he's a flip flopper.

i hope there's never an official GUI released. That way, when xmr is 8 kagillion USD all the haters'll be like "man, I really shouldn't have though the GUI was a big deal"

[nioc]

I couldn't resist. I've started moving from USD into altcoins today. It's going to take a few weeks to move in because of the low liquidity anyway.

I know you've been hodling back so this is significant and I wish you the best.  (I actually tried to type holding but I'll leave the typo)

You say altcoins, plural.  I assume you are buying Monero, but are you buying others as well?  No need to specify.

Is this the reason my bids weren't filled today? 

[americanpegasus]

Hi fam.  As always, my research into Monero, Cryptonote, and the deep deep spiral of cryptography and mathematics on the web continues today. 
 
I found this interesting; perhaps you will too: 

Under the Monero Research Lab, there are three pseudonyms listed, all with the surname Noether. 

(https://getmonero.org/knowledge-base/people) 
The Monero Research Lab 
 
The Core Team forms an integral part of the Monero Research Lab, but the researchers, scientists, and academics that are primarily focused on Monero research are listed below. They have chosen to remain pseudonymous for the moment. They are:
 
Surae Noether: Lead researcher for the Monero Research Lab, Surae holds a PhD in Mathematical Sciences and brings a rich understanding of cryptography and homological algebra to the mix.
Sarang Noether: Having completed his Masters in Mathematical Sciences, Sarang is currently completing his doctoral degree in Physics, while devoting time on the side to the advancement of Monero research.
Shen Noether: A graduate student focused on algebraic geometry, it is Shen's command and knowledge of cryptography that lends itself so well to his involvement in the Monero Research Lab.
 
A simple search will reveal the history of this surname as belonging to what many consider "the greatest female mathematician that ever lived": 
 
(http://fabpedigree.com/james/grmatm6.htm) 
Amalie Emma  Noether (1882-1935) Germany

Noether was an innovative researcher who was considered the greatest master of abstract algebra ever; her advances included a new theory of ideals, the inverse Galois problem, and the general theory of commutative rings. She originated novel reasoning methods, especially one based on "chain conditions," which advanced invariant theory and abstract algebra; her insistence on generalization led to a unified theory of modules and Noetherian rings. Her approaches tended to unify disparate areas (algebra, geometry, topology, logic) and led eventually to modern category theory. Her invention of Betti homology groups led to algebraic topology, and thus revolutionized topology.

Noether's work has found various applications in physics, and she made direct advances in mathematical physics herself. Noether's Theorem establishing that certain symmetries imply conservation laws has been called the most important Theorem in physics since the Pythagorean Theorem. Several other important theorems are named after her, e.g. Noether's Normalization Lemma, which provided an important new proof of Hilbert's Nullstellensatz. Noether was an unusual and inspiring teacher; her successful students included Emil Artin, Max Deuring, Jacob Levitzki, etc. She was generous with students and colleagues, even allowing them to claim her work as their own. Noether was close friends with the other greatest mathematicians of her generation: Hilbert, von Neumann, and Weyl. Weyl once said he was embarrassed to accept the famous Professorship at Göttingen because Noether was his "superior as a mathematician." Emmy Noether is considered the greatest female mathematician ever. 
 
That word, Noetherian Rings probably caught your eye, as it did mine. 
 
Well here's the wiki link "if you want to know more": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noetherian_ring 
 
Just a little enjoyable musing for you on this fine Monday night.

 

[phishead]

Hmmm... Noether... I like it!

Going back to your topic from a little while back for trying to find a right name for the subunit of monero, I think Noethers would sound really cool... Or maybe just ethers for short?  Idk... I need sleep lol.

[americanpegasus]

Hmmm... Noether... I like it!

Going back to your topic from a little while back for trying to find a right name for the subunit of monero, I think Noethers would sound really cool... Or maybe just ethers for short?  Idk... I need sleep lol.

 
 
The name itself literally says that's a bad idea. 

[digicoin]

It seems that people cry for a user friendly GUI wallet. Let 0.9 version be out first. Then I may spend time creating a new one which is based on NodeJS or Python

[owm123]

It seems that people cry for a user friendly GUI wallet. Let 0.9 version be out first. Then I may spend time creating a new one which is based on NodeJS or Python

I would be equally happy if I could use tab-complition and up-arrow (to get recently used commands) in the smartwallet or bitmonred.

[smoothie]

It seems that people cry for a user friendly GUI wallet. Let 0.9 version be out first. Then I may spend time creating a new one which is based on NodeJS or Python

I would be equally happy if I could use tab-complition and up-arrow (to get recently used commands) in the smartwallet or bitmonred.

yeah that is one thing I wish could be implemented as well. I'm always hitting up-arrow and having to delete what is typed.

[smooth]

Linux users can use rlwrap. I don't know if there is anything similar for Windows.

[elrippo]

It seems that people cry for a user friendly GUI wallet. Let 0.9 version be out first. Then I may spend time creating a new one which is based on NodeJS or Python

I would be equally happy if I could use tab-complition and up-arrow (to get recently used commands) in the smartwallet or bitmonred.

yeah that is one thing I wish could be implemented as well. I'm always hitting up-arrow and having to delete what is typed.

In Linux you can use the arrows function.
I am waiting very angeous for the 0.9 and official GUI release.
One question. How can I integrate the old wallets from 0.8.8.6 to fully encrypted in 0.9?

[binaryFate]

Well here's the wiki link "if you want to know more": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noetherian_ring 

[...] a ring that satisfies the ascending chain condition on ideals [...]

Poetry!

[smoothie]

It seems that people cry for a user friendly GUI wallet. Let 0.9 version be out first. Then I may spend time creating a new one which is based on NodeJS or Python

I would be equally happy if I could use tab-complition and up-arrow (to get recently used commands) in the smartwallet or bitmonred.

yeah that is one thing I wish could be implemented as well. I'm always hitting up-arrow and having to delete what is typed.

In Linux you can use the arrows function.
I am waiting very angeous for the 0.9 and official GUI release.
One question. How can I integrate the old wallets from 0.8.8.6 to fully encrypted in 0.9?

Really? I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 and compiled 0.9 release.

The arrows don't seem to do what I would normally expect them to do in a terminal not running simple wallet.

[MoneroMooo]

The arrows don't seem to do what I would normally expect them to do in a terminal not running simple wallet.

Linux users can use rlwrap. I don't know if there is anything similar for Windows.

More precisely, just add "rlwrap " before your simplewallet command, eg:

rlwrap ./build/release/bin/simplewallet --wallet-file blah

[owm123]

The arrows don't seem to do what I would normally expect them to do in a terminal not running simple wallet.

Linux users can use rlwrap. I don't know if there is anything similar for Windows.

More precisely, just add "rlwrap " before your simplewallet command, eg:

rlwrap ./build/release/bin/simplewallet --wallet-file blah

for tab complition, need a file with the commands. for example, the file called xmrsimplewallet.txt:

address
balance
bc_height
check_tx_key
get_tx_key
help
incoming_transfers
integrated_address
refresh
rescan_spent
save
save_bc
save_watch_only
seed
set
set_log
spendkey
start_mining
stop_mining
sweep_dust
transfer
transfer_new
viewkey

and then:

rlwrap -f ~/xmrsimplewallet.txt /opt/bitmonero/simplewallet --wallet-file ~/wallet.bin

[digicoin]

Big sell order: 13295 XMR ~ 19.3 BTC 

0.00139998   13295.64936781   18.61364320   19.39942216

Dump it to buy wall please

[koryu]

I have bought more. Go Monero!
Lets tear down this little ask wall.

[owm123]

I have bought more. Go Monero!
Lets tear down this little ask wall.

I think it won't be easy.