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October 15, 2015, 03:11:29 PM
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Why would you want Bernie Sanders to be at the forefront of Monero? Bernie isn't at all the poster child for this, because it would be against the Feds and private banks, which I would believe, that he is good with... Plus he's socialist, I thought the majority of XMR folks here were libertarians... spying and analysing your data is going to be his specialty.

Beat me to it.  I was also going to say while Paul is sympathetic to Bitcoin, and would likely approve of Monero even more, Sanders would hate both as they would fundamentally attack his entire worldview.

Thing is they fundamentally attack the worldview of almost ALL politicians except for kooks (sic) like Paul.

It's actually an interesting point from a speculation vantage.  One that comes up a lot... but is worth continuing to consider.  Governments do not like Bitcoin.  And they will HATE Monero.

And not only that, but the thing is , is that the governments shouldn't hate Monero because we have view keys that allow their auditors to audit businesses and for taxing reasons..

It's just that I know FOR A FACT Mr. Sanders won't be for the Monero ship "to da moon"... He's perfectly happy with hacking into the data on your phone/computer to make sure all of us "goys" are being safe.

Edit: http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/256865-sanders-would-absolutely-end-nsa-spying

Well It's not like I italicized and underlined "for a fact"... Roll Eyes

But I just don't see how a very socialist person could be the person we want for president... I mean in this aspect, maybe he's the best candidate out there who would take NSA's spying program into account who actually has a shot at winning.

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October 15, 2015, 03:32:29 PM
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From what I understand the term socialist as he uses it doesn't mean someone who wants the state to control all business.  Instead it refers to a nation where the state offers strong public services and care for all citizens at the cost of higher taxes. 
 
From what I have seen, this is the path that many very wealthy and happy European countries are on, and one that we will eventually have to transition to as the robo-pacalypse destroys almost all jobs. 
 
I think it's silly to think he means that Communist Russia was a superior form of government. 
 
I would like to hear his opinions on our spiraling debt situation and cryptocurrency though.  I would like to think he would be supportive of technology, but if he's anti-crypto that would kill the prestigious "Americanpegasus Presidential Endorsement" (considering I've successfully called the results of every presidental election since 2000). Wink

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October 15, 2015, 04:23:10 PM
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It seems he is the most privacy oriented candidate out there.  He recently said he would "absolutely end NSA spying" and he was one of the few to vote against the Patriot Act.  
  
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/256865-sanders-would-absolutely-end-nsa-spying  
    
I don't know his relationship with the Federal Reserve, nor have I heard his stance on cryptocurrency.  But I definitely think he would make a more friendly candidate for the rise of cryptocurrency (which will likely happen in earnest from 2016 -  2020) vs. anyone else who has an actual chance of being elected.  

i'd like her to be a forewoman of monero: http://blog.invisiblethings.org/about/
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October 15, 2015, 05:18:36 PM
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From what I understand the term socialist as he uses it doesn't mean someone who wants the state to control all business.  Instead it refers to a nation where the state offers strong public services and care for all citizens at the cost of higher taxes. 
 
From what I have seen, this is the path that many very wealthy and happy European countries are on, and one that we will eventually have to transition to as the robo-pacalypse destroys almost all jobs. 
 
I think it's silly to think he means that Communist Russia was a superior form of government. 
 
I would like to hear his opinions on our spiraling debt situation and cryptocurrency though.  I would like to think he would be supportive of technology, but if he's anti-crypto that would kill the prestigious "Americanpegasus Presidential Endorsement" (considering I've successfully called the results of every presidental election since 2000). Wink

Well I don't think that question will every be asked to him, or better yet responded in full by him right now, especially when he's trying to win a majority of Americans votes... and the fact that most Americans don't know/don't care what cryptos are, is not helping.  Not to mention, that it is highly unlikely for a political reporter to know about them either, or would want to question Bernie about it.

As for your three in a row correct presidential predictions.. that's pretty impressive AP. Did you call those predictions during the primaries, or when the two final candidates are duking it out?

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October 15, 2015, 06:55:17 PM
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FWIW: Offers decreased from ~37k last night to ~10k today, might explain all the mini walls around 0.0016. In other words, someone could be protecting his short position. Alternative explanation, the offerer just took away a chunk of his offers.

Almost all altcoins are taking a pretty big hit in the last few weeks, saddens me to see it slide like this. Resembles the August-Januari bearmarket a bit.

Small update, ~8k was taken out from the asks and subsequently added to the lending offers (offers jumped from ~17k to ~25k). We can probably infer from this that someone is still trying to protect his short position.

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October 15, 2015, 07:47:15 PM
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FWIW: Offers decreased from ~37k last night to ~10k today, might explain all the mini walls around 0.0016. In other words, someone could be protecting his short position. Alternative explanation, the offerer just took away a chunk of his offers.

Almost all altcoins are taking a pretty big hit in the last few weeks, saddens me to see it slide like this. Resembles the August-Januari bearmarket a bit.

Small update, ~8k was taken out from the asks and subsequently added to the lending offers (offers jumped from ~17k to ~25k). We can probably infer from this that someone is still trying to protect his short position.

Does this mean further downwards pressure is expected?
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October 15, 2015, 07:59:32 PM
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FWIW: Offers decreased from ~37k last night to ~10k today, might explain all the mini walls around 0.0016. In other words, someone could be protecting his short position. Alternative explanation, the offerer just took away a chunk of his offers.

Almost all altcoins are taking a pretty big hit in the last few weeks, saddens me to see it slide like this. Resembles the August-Januari bearmarket a bit.

Small update, ~8k was taken out from the asks and subsequently added to the lending offers (offers jumped from ~17k to ~25k). We can probably infer from this that someone is still trying to protect his short position.

Does this mean further downwards pressure is expected?

I should've clarified that he returned the ~8k XMR he took out in the first place to short. So basically not.

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October 15, 2015, 08:00:44 PM
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I had to come back to post something very important. Seems Monero is attempting to duplicate my invention. I will be posting this on the Ion thread as well.

The brand new Ring Confidential Transactions for Monero appears to me to be broken:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3oi16k/ring_ct_for_monero_a_work_in_progress_comments/cvzval5



P.S. my health is not going well. I am pretty much giving on trying any therapies (because nothing works and I've tried "everything") until and if ever I can afford the best research specialists doing diagnostics on me. So don't expect too much from me. But I am still trying. I did run 9 kilometers in the past 2 days but today was a total Chronic Fatigue day bed ridden.

Oh I am still retired from this forum. The above required my posting.


Is it time to draft anonymint into the xmr dev team as a consultant? Can someone explain what this is about?



First off this is the wrong thread for this, second let him do his own thing. He doesn't work well with others.

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October 15, 2015, 08:10:23 PM
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I had to come back to post something very important. Seems Monero is attempting to duplicate my invention. I will be posting this on the Ion thread as well.

The brand new Ring Confidential Transactions for Monero appears to me to be broken:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3oi16k/ring_ct_for_monero_a_work_in_progress_comments/cvzval5



P.S. my health is not going well. I am pretty much giving on trying any therapies (because nothing works and I've tried "everything") until and if ever I can afford the best research specialists doing diagnostics on me. So don't expect too much from me. But I am still trying. I did run 9 kilometers in the past 2 days but today was a total Chronic Fatigue day bed ridden.

Oh I am still retired from this forum. The above required my posting.


Is it time to draft anonymint into the xmr dev team as a consultant? Can someone explain what this is about?



First off this is the wrong thread for this, second let him do his own thing. He doesn't work well with others.

He has given some good advice though, perhaps there is a workaround :-)

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October 15, 2015, 08:16:06 PM
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As for your three in a row correct presidential predictions.. that's pretty impressive AP. Did you call those predictions during the primaries, or when the two final candidates are duking it out?


Four in a row, but I confess I didn't call them all in the primaries.  George Bush was a lucky guess in my youth.  His reelection was based off feeling the pulse of the country, just as my prediction of the Republican's defeat at the hands of Obama.  
  
When Obama was up for reelection, I confess I took a look at the British odds sites and immediately saw Obama favored at 5:1 over Romney.  And sure enough, despite what the media tried to spin, Obama won by a landslide.  
  
This election, I would trust those same betting sites again when it comes down to it.  

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October 15, 2015, 08:27:14 PM
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I had to come back to post something very important. Seems Monero is attempting to duplicate my invention. I will be posting this on the Ion thread as well.

The brand new Ring Confidential Transactions for Monero appears to me to be broken:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3oi16k/ring_ct_for_monero_a_work_in_progress_comments/cvzval5



P.S. my health is not going well. I am pretty much giving on trying any therapies (because nothing works and I've tried "everything") until and if ever I can afford the best research specialists doing diagnostics on me. So don't expect too much from me. But I am still trying. I did run 9 kilometers in the past 2 days but today was a total Chronic Fatigue day bed ridden.

Oh I am still retired from this forum. The above required my posting.


Is it time to draft anonymint into the xmr dev team as a consultant? Can someone explain what this is about?



First off this is the wrong thread for this, second let him do his own thing. He doesn't work well with others.

He has given some good advice though, perhaps there is a workaround :-)

Your assuming he is correct.

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October 15, 2015, 08:32:05 PM
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As for your three in a row correct presidential predictions.. that's pretty impressive AP. Did you call those predictions during the primaries, or when the two final candidates are duking it out?


Four in a row, but I confess I didn't call them all in the primaries.  George Bush was a lucky guess in my youth.  His reelection was based off feeling the pulse of the country, just as my prediction of the Republican's defeat at the hands of Obama.  
  
When Obama was up for reelection, I confess I took a look at the British odds sites and immediately saw Obama favored at 5:1 over Romney.  And sure enough, despite what the media tried to spin, Obama won by a landslide.  
  
This election, I would trust those same betting sites again when it comes down to it.  

I foresaw Bush winning, and us invading Iraq during the primaries v/s Gore. Voted Perot but knew it was a symbolic gesture. Picking Pres winner before hand was exceedingly simple the last few decades.

Damn this thread goes off topic alot. I think Perot would speculate on Monero. Cheesy

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October 15, 2015, 08:35:17 PM
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I had to come back to post something very important. Seems Monero is attempting to duplicate my invention. I will be posting this on the Ion thread as well.

The brand new Ring Confidential Transactions for Monero appears to me to be broken:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3oi16k/ring_ct_for_monero_a_work_in_progress_comments/cvzval5



P.S. my health is not going well. I am pretty much giving on trying any therapies (because nothing works and I've tried "everything") until and if ever I can afford the best research specialists doing diagnostics on me. So don't expect too much from me. But I am still trying. I did run 9 kilometers in the past 2 days but today was a total Chronic Fatigue day bed ridden.

Oh I am still retired from this forum. The above required my posting.


Is it time to draft anonymint into the xmr dev team as a consultant? Can someone explain what this is about?



First off this is the wrong thread for this, second let him do his own thing. He doesn't work well with others.

He has given some good advice though, perhaps there is a workaround :-)

Your assuming he is correct.

I should've clarified that I don't necessarily think he is right, but he could give some valuable input.

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October 15, 2015, 09:01:20 PM
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Is it time to draft anonymint into the xmr dev team as a consultant? Can someone explain what this is about?


First off this is the wrong thread for this, second let him do his own thing. He doesn't work well with others.

He has given some good advice though, perhaps there is a workaround :-)

Actually, it looks like he is, once again, seeing daemons where there are none.

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Dear tbt needs var, I believe you are mistaken- the key point is that the sum of inputs equals the sum of the outputs- there is no difference here from standard ct, except I sign for the commitment, rather than show the difference is zero. also if you search this repository you will see the block hash of the third version of the original writeup (Mrl_notes) for this protocol is from june 7, the new content here is the anonymity proof.

Noble Sir:
Ahh - I think I (possibly) see where you are misunderstanding. The "a" value is fixed by previous transaction (for the inputs)
Btw: if you are going to claim to have already invented someones protocol / and to have found it broken, ettiquette would suggest that you at least take the time to understand the basics of the protocol first (maybe start with gmaxwells CT paper), before declaring these things.

Noble Sir:
It should be clear that a destination / amount pair is replaced by a destination / commitment pair- there is no need to do anything nontrivial to lock commitment to destination address. It works the same as usual Monero/ any other cryptocurrency except that amounts are replaced by commitments.

I'm sure you guys remember what happened when BCX threatened to kill monero.
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October 15, 2015, 09:41:24 PM
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I had to come back to post something very important. Seems Monero is attempting to duplicate my invention. I will be posting this on the Ion thread as well.

The brand new Ring Confidential Transactions for Monero appears to me to be broken:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3oi16k/ring_ct_for_monero_a_work_in_progress_comments/cvzval5



P.S. my health is not going well. I am pretty much giving on trying any therapies (because nothing works and I've tried "everything") until and if ever I can afford the best research specialists doing diagnostics on me. So don't expect too much from me. But I am still trying. I did run 9 kilometers in the past 2 days but today was a total Chronic Fatigue day bed ridden.

Oh I am still retired from this forum. The above required my posting.


Is it time to draft anonymint into the xmr dev team as a consultant? Can someone explain what this is about?



First off this is the wrong thread for this, second let him do his own thing. He doesn't work well with others.

He has given some good advice though, perhaps there is a workaround :-)

Your assuming he is correct.

I've already reached out to him on other threads and via PM. So far he hasn't been even remotely clear on what he has or how much he's willing to sell it for, so there's no way for us to know if it's something worth crowdfunding.

He claims no one in the XMR community is interested in what he has, but he needs to meet us somewhere in the middle. I personally think he has no interest in ever selling his information, which is why he's so reluctant to name a price.
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October 15, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
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I've already reached out to him on other threads and via PM. So far he hasn't been even remotely clear on what he has or how much he's willing to sell it for, so there's no way for us to know if it's something worth crowdfunding.

He claims no one in the XMR community is interested in what he has, but he needs to meet us somewhere in the middle. I personally think he has no interest in ever selling his information, which is why he's so reluctant to name a price.

Nicely put. In any case, I believe this time it's his turn. Either he wants to reveal what he has (ie: describe in detail what he has managed to solve / created) or we assume he has nothing at all. Simple as that. In any case if he has something usable and worthy from the XMR devteam, I repeat what I wrote in his "ion" thread; I'm willing to donate some of my XMR stash in order to buy his work if he's for real.

Let's see what he decides.

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I've already reached out to him on other threads and via PM. So far he hasn't been even remotely clear on what he has or how much he's willing to sell it for, so there's no way for us to know if it's something worth crowdfunding.

He claims no one in the XMR community is interested in what he has, but he needs to meet us somewhere in the middle. I personally think he has no interest in ever selling his information, which is why he's so reluctant to name a price.

Nicely put. In any case, I believe this time it's his turn. Either he wants to reveal what he has (ie: describe in detail what he has managed to solve / created) or we assume he has nothing at all. Simple as that. In any case if he has something usable and worthy from the XMR devteam, I repeat what I wrote in his "ion" thread; I'm willing to donate some of my XMR stash in order to buy his work if he's for real.

Let's see what he decides.

FWIW: I've also sent him a PM and explained a bit how our funding system works. Let's see how it plays out.

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October 15, 2015, 09:58:26 PM
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I've already reached out to him on other threads and via PM. So far he hasn't been even remotely clear on what he has or how much he's willing to sell it for, so there's no way for us to know if it's something worth crowdfunding.

He claims no one in the XMR community is interested in what he has, but he needs to meet us somewhere in the middle. I personally think he has no interest in ever selling his information, which is why he's so reluctant to name a price.

Nicely put. In any case, I believe this time it's his turn. Either he wants to reveal what he has (ie: describe in detail what he has managed to solve / created) or we assume he has nothing at all. Simple as that. In any case if he has something usable and worthy from the XMR devteam, I repeat what I wrote in his "ion" thread; I'm willing to donate some of my XMR stash in order to buy his work if he's for real.

Let's see what he decides.

Since I'm new to all of this, what has this guy said to have created that's better than the current ring sig/CT thing we are working on already? Does he claim to have some better way to implement this stuff or something of the sort?
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October 15, 2015, 10:18:54 PM
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I've already reached out to him on other threads and via PM. So far he hasn't been even remotely clear on what he has or how much he's willing to sell it for, so there's no way for us to know if it's something worth crowdfunding.

He claims no one in the XMR community is interested in what he has, but he needs to meet us somewhere in the middle. I personally think he has no interest in ever selling his information, which is why he's so reluctant to name a price.

Nicely put. In any case, I believe this time it's his turn. Either he wants to reveal what he has (ie: describe in detail what he has managed to solve / created) or we assume he has nothing at all. Simple as that. In any case if he has something usable and worthy from the XMR devteam, I repeat what I wrote in his "ion" thread; I'm willing to donate some of my XMR stash in order to buy his work if he's for real.

Let's see what he decides.

Since I'm new to all of this, what has this guy said to have created that's better than the current ring sig/CT thing we are working on already? Does he claim to have some better way to implement this stuff or something of the sort?

He's stated (without going into much detail) to have solutions to mining centralization, instant transactions, scalability, anonymity, etc. To quote:

The current focus of my development on this coin is to complete a novel consensus network design which has proposed the following fixes to flaws in Satoshi’s design while retaining proof-of-work as unbounded entropy[1]:

  • Censorship resistance even if mining is entirely centralized.
  • Attack-free instant zero confirmation instantaneous transactions.
  • Impervious to selfish mining and 51% attacks.
  • Transaction rates virtually unbounded by block chain bandwidth and size.
  • Resilient against network fragmentation.
  • Decentralization of pools and ASICs by making them uneconomic.
  • Non-heuristic Sybil and DoS resistance.

None of the above is a joke nor exaggeration. I am entirely serious. My programming background and expertise is documented in the archives of my prior usernames.

Currently unreleased white papers will not be published until this coin is nearer to release to insure these designs are released first in our coin. Thus for the time being I will not be providing more details on how the above features are accomplished.

He has some health issues that are limiting his productivity on his project (but he made it clear to me he's still working), which brought up the possibility that he'd be willing to sell some or all of his design.

I just realized we're in the speculation thread, so we should probably move this discussion to the main XMR thread.
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October 15, 2015, 10:21:59 PM
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I had to come back to post something very important. Seems Monero is attempting to duplicate my invention. I will be posting this on the Ion thread as well.

The brand new Ring Confidential Transactions for Monero appears to me to be broken:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3oi16k/ring_ct_for_monero_a_work_in_progress_comments/cvzval5



P.S. my health is not going well. I am pretty much giving on trying any therapies (because nothing works and I've tried "everything") until and if ever I can afford the best research specialists doing diagnostics on me. So don't expect too much from me. But I am still trying. I did run 9 kilometers in the past 2 days but today was a total Chronic Fatigue day bed ridden.

Oh I am still retired from this forum. The above required my posting.


Is it time to draft anonymint into the xmr dev team as a consultant? Can someone explain what this is about?



First off this is the wrong thread for this, second let him do his own thing. He doesn't work well with others.

He has given some good advice though, perhaps there is a workaround :-)

Your assuming he is correct.

I've already reached out to him on other threads and via PM. So far he hasn't been even remotely clear on what he has or how much he's willing to sell it for, so there's no way for us to know if it's something worth crowdfunding.

He claims no one in the XMR community is interested in what he has, but he needs to meet us somewhere in the middle. I personally think he has no interest in ever selling his information, which is why he's so reluctant to name a price.

I think he is full of shit.

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