[XMR] Monero Speculation

[boolberry]

Also, how likely/possible is this to implement into a Monero release?  Would it require a hardfork? (which isn't a problem since those are scheduled anyways)  

Something like this would certainly require a hard fork to be implemented in a reasonable manner (if at all).

Does your (if at all) comment refer to your view on the difficulty level in adding it or whether there will be a consensus that it is desired?

[dnaleor]

My assessment, anonymint is a bat-shit brilliant guy, and if he was inside the XMR tent pissing out (on other coins) I'm speculating it would be very bullish for monero, and probably good for anonymint's health too - win:win!

Well, with XMR this low, he can buy a nice chunk, try to help an OPEN source project by publishing his instead and profit.
He would be able to buy his coins way below the average buy in price of most community members...

even willing to throw some XMR his way if he joins the XMR dev team or MRL team.

[dEBRUYNE]

Also, how likely/possible is this to implement into a Monero release?  Would it require a hardfork? (which isn't a problem since those are scheduled anyways)  

Something like this would certainly require a hard fork to be implemented in a reasonable manner (if at all).

Does your (if at all) comment refer to your view on the difficulty level in adding it or whether there will be a consensus that it is desired?

It probably needs a lot of testing and peer review first, hence his comment. If something is somewhat broken it can't be implemented.

[americanpegasus]

Before I could even begin to form a proper opinion on this, I'd need to do some more reading, and be assured this doesn't open up Monero to the same weaknesses as zerocash (an opaque blockchain that we can't verify hasn't been tampered with via an exploit)  
  
I also think it would need to be vetted in a testnet environment.  
  
But if it's all possible and true, then we should eventually add it.

[ArticMine]

This runs as well on iOS - but so far the Apple appstore disallowed crpytocurrency apps that aren´t Bitcoin; at least they did when i tried the last time.

And yet Fart Click III - The Clickening is just fine.  
  
But I agree that if Apple is very capable of squandering their lead in the smartphone field, but don't underestimate the droves that know iPhone and like iPhone - they are the same who think Android is synonymous with those awful Samsung Galaxy phones (I default to this camp fairly often, sorry).  
  
Network effect is real and powerful, and as always: Most people don't want freedom and choice; they want status, comfort, and shiny things.

The fleece the iSheep say no to DRM investment model (cost averaging).

1) Price out an iPad
2) Purchase every month the price of an iPad worth of XMR
3) Repeat until Apple gives the iSheep permission to hold XMR
4) When Apple gives the iSheep permission to hold XMR sell to meet the iSheep demand

This strategy worked very well for me with Bitcoin starting in 2012 when I was literally bought an iPad worth of Bitcoin a month. Now a similar strategy can work with Monero for the same reason.

Edit: In the meantime enjoy a rooted and unlocked Android phone and / or tablet.

[smooth]

Also, how likely/possible is this to implement into a Monero release?  Would it require a hardfork? (which isn't a problem since those are scheduled anyways)  

Something like this would certainly require a hard fork to be implemented in a reasonable manner (if at all).

Does your (if at all) comment refer to your view on the difficulty level in adding it or whether there will be a consensus that it is desired?

Sorry that was terribly unclear. I was referring to the possibility of implementing it without a hard fork using some of the extremely convoluted soft fork mechanisms that have been proposed for adding things to Bitcoin without a hard fork. That's not really important or useful since we plan hard forks in Monero anyway.

[phishead]

So how about this bull rush for both bitcoin and monero, and the fact that everybody else is tanking it pretty hard?? From what my ticker says on my phone, Monero's up a solid 8% ... nicely done. Any particular reason why xmr isn't tanking it down the tubes along with it's other cryptonote siblings?

[GingerAle]

So how about this bull rush for both bitcoin and monero, and the fact that everybody else is tanking it pretty hard?? From what my ticker says on my phone, Monero's up a solid 8% ... nicely done. Any particular reason why xmr isn't tanking it down the tubes along with it's other cryptonote siblings?

uhhhhhhhhhh because Monero is awesome? I would guess its because, of all the cryptonotes, Monero's the only one really being developed. In order of developmentness, it probably goes XMR > AEON > BBR > others.

unfortunately, it could also be for stupider reasons, like the fact that monero has good liquidity on poloniex, so market players can extract profits by throwing their weights around. But whattaya gonna do. Its the wild west up in here.

[iCEBREAKER]

So how about this bull rush for both bitcoin and monero, and the fact that everybody else is tanking it pretty hard?? From what my ticker says on my phone, Monero's up a solid 8% ... nicely done. Any particular reason why xmr isn't tanking it down the tubes along with it's other cryptonote siblings?

Heh, I love watching Monero outperform Bitcoin, especially as all other significant alts are crashing.  Investment thesis = validated.   

The new 'confidential transactions for ring signatures' paper can't be hurting us.

But the larger issue is Monero being too far into oversold territory just as Bitcoin's rally really caught fire.  The across-the-board volume a good BTC spike can bring makes being short anything (besides fiat) a dubious proposition.

Too bad for whoever was shorting Monero!

[chennan]

So how about this bull rush for both bitcoin and monero, and the fact that everybody else is tanking it pretty hard?? From what my ticker says on my phone, Monero's up a solid 8% ... nicely done. Any particular reason why xmr isn't tanking it down the tubes along with it's other cryptonote siblings?

uhhhhhhhhhh because Monero is awesome? I would guess its because, of all the cryptonotes, Monero's the only one really being developed. In order of developmentness, it probably goes XMR > AEON > BBR > others.

unfortunately, it could also be for stupider reasons, like the fact that monero has good liquidity on poloniex, so market players can extract profits by throwing their weights around. But whattaya gonna do. Its the wild west up in here.

Haha, I just instantly got the cover to the song "Wild Wild West" that South Park did in it's old seasons for some reasons... Any who, I've been reading on the BBR speculation thread and they talk about "Supernet" being some thing that can potentially really help them out in the long run... I don't know if I've just been ignorant of this for some time, but what the hell is this, and why does it help out BBR and not XMR at the same time?

[GingerAle]

So how about this bull rush for both bitcoin and monero, and the fact that everybody else is tanking it pretty hard?? From what my ticker says on my phone, Monero's up a solid 8% ... nicely done. Any particular reason why xmr isn't tanking it down the tubes along with it's other cryptonote siblings?

uhhhhhhhhhh because Monero is awesome? I would guess its because, of all the cryptonotes, Monero's the only one really being developed. In order of developmentness, it probably goes XMR > AEON > BBR > others.

unfortunately, it could also be for stupider reasons, like the fact that monero has good liquidity on poloniex, so market players can extract profits by throwing their weights around. But whattaya gonna do. Its the wild west up in here.

Haha, I just instantly got the cover to the song "Wild Wild West" that South Park did in it's old seasons for some reasons... Any who, I've been reading on the BBR speculation thread and they talk about "Supernet" being some thing that can potentially really help them out in the long run... I don't know if I've just been ignorant of this for some time, but what the hell is this, and why does it help out BBR and not XMR at the same time?

ugh supernet. I didn't know BBR was tied up in them. The way i understand it its like a conglomeration of a bunch of altcoins. The ideals are cool - "hey lets all work together!" so they're all sharing resources and making their chains interoperable (maybe... thats how I thought it should work, but I have no idea)... from my cursory investigation, it looked to have all the makings of a camel.

[chennan]

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 I've been reading on the BBR speculation thread and they talk about "Supernet" being some thing that can potentially really help them out in the long run... I don't know if I've just been ignorant of this for some time, but what the hell is this, and why does it help out BBR and not XMR at the same time?

ugh supernet. I didn't know BBR was tied up in them. The way i understand it its like a conglomeration of a bunch of altcoins. The ideals are cool - "hey lets all work together!" so they're all sharing resources and making their chains interoperable (maybe... thats how I thought it should work, but I have no idea)... from my cursory investigation, it looked to have all the makings of a camel.

Ew.. that just sounds like a messy cluster f**k of PoW coins doing, well, the work; while PoS coins just sit back and collect profit.  That doesn't sound like the right way to go at all, and I would assume people would get tired of that very quickly.

[GingerAle]

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 I've been reading on the BBR speculation thread and they talk about "Supernet" being some thing that can potentially really help them out in the long run... I don't know if I've just been ignorant of this for some time, but what the hell is this, and why does it help out BBR and not XMR at the same time?

ugh supernet. I didn't know BBR was tied up in them. The way i understand it its like a conglomeration of a bunch of altcoins. The ideals are cool - "hey lets all work together!" so they're all sharing resources and making their chains interoperable (maybe... thats how I thought it should work, but I have no idea)... from my cursory investigation, it looked to have all the makings of a camel.

Ew.. that just sounds like a messy cluster f**k of PoW coins doing, well, the work; while PoS coins just sit back and collect profit.  That doesn't sound like the right way to go at all, and I would assume people would get tired of that very quickly.

Like I said, my research was cursory. I'd suggest digging into it yourself.... don't take my word on anything. I log on here when I'm half braindead or focusing on 10 other things, so.....

[generalizethis]

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[chennan]

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[americanpegasus]

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WOOOOO! HAPPY 10000 EVERYONE! Sorry I took this much desired spot from avid monero supporters... I didn't really expect to get it, but well... I just want to say that I'm really happy to have been introduced here.  Actually it was someone's signature that caught my eye one time, and now I frequent here more than any other thread.

 
  
Hmmmm, so if I post here and then delete an old post will I steal the spot from you?    
  
Let's find out.    
  
Monero to $10,000 USD EACH by 2020!  
  

edit: oh god it worked; I feel awful.      Let it be known that chennan had the real post 10,000

[generalizethis]

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WOOOOO! HAPPY 10000 EVERYONE! Sorry I took this much desired spot from avid monero supporters... I didn't really expect to get it, but well... I just want to say that I'm really happy to have been introduced here.  Actually it was someone's signature that caught my eye one time, and now I frequent here more than any other thread.

Glad it was new comer. It's a good sign.  

*EDIT* Really AP? You couldn't let the new guy enjoy the spotlight?

[XMRpromotions]

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[rangedriver]

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WOOOOO! HAPPY 10000 EVERYONE! Sorry I took this much desired spot from avid monero supporters... I didn't really expect to get it, but well... I just want to say that I'm really happy to have been introduced here.  Actually it was someone's signature that caught my eye one time, and now I frequent here more than any other thread.

Feel free to post an XMR address for a small prize.