 And on and on and on.Rinse and repeat fraud by Technobit. Vesi,
Any word on the AMD brackets ?
up HI, Yours will be out today. For others we'll put a product on the website with 0 price and no transport costs , you just have to provide your hex4m order ref Regards: Vesi Vesi, No brackets have arrived yet ?? Can you check if everything was send out correctly pls.. Thanks. No brackets or chip received yet. !! its been almost 3 weeks now.. Vesi,
Where to send the defective board? To same adress as RMA?
Could you plz send me PM with details?
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The only draw back with SPTech is the lack of definite shipping dates and this still has not changed since my order. That is the only thing I would fault them with at this time.
Unlike other companies which build, mine, sell and ship (from the mine) we only build and ship. It's very hard to guarantee definite times when you first need to build. The miners has many parts beside ASICs, which all of them need to arrive on time. We're going through hoops to be able to ship within a month period. Until now it always succeeded. Guy Yes I appreciate that Guy I was happy with delivery it was on time as promised although I still wanted a more definitive timeline for the shipment. My refund came on time. My units worked exceptionally well and when I sold them as I said before they held their value extremely well. More than I thought they would and they sold immediately. All consumers really want some more specific dates or times or minimally a 2 or 3 shipping window in advance. Just the nature of the consumer wants and needs it is clear that you guys do the best you can but that won't stop people from wanting a better estimate on shipping. |
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Time to dust them off and box them back up!
What a bunch of bullshit. We all know "compensation" never arrives. Look at the complaints above.
Just ship the shit out already and quit playing us for fools.
I got my compensation. The products I use from SPT were shipped in time. Multiple orders, multiple times. I'd love to have all my vendors of SPT's caliber, and I'd hate to have most of the complainers here as customers. Fortunately, I can pick my customers. It's better to refrain speaking for others, and if you're not using the royal we/us, you know, it's called "Dissociative Identity Disorder" .. +1 Same experience for me and I would agree not to talk for others. Let others speak for themselves or just quote them. The only draw back with SPTech is the lack of definite shipping dates and this still has not changed since my order. That is the only thing I would fault them with at this time. |
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Minersource is often a black hole for emails. Black Arrow puts out questionable quality X-3 even after long delays.
As many have noted emails and correspondence with Minersource is usually all miss no hit some support late in the day is not enough to make them trustworthy at this stage. Avoid Minersource and Black Arrow at all costs. I put a PSU from another unit in that machine, and it reads alarm/fault - and the psu that shot sparks out works fine in a different unit.
So i've concluded that rather just being a power supply - it's the actual miner. anyone know how to reset the bugger
I would start by looking at the backplane caps, and removing them if they look like they've failed. If no help is to be had there, I would then remove all but one of the hashing modules from the backplane and see if it will start up like that. If so, reconnect another, etc, and see if you can isolate one of them that pisses it off. Did just that. It worked. Found a dead module. Another module has 1 dead chip and 1 live chip. So I've asked BlackArrow to send out a few replacement boards and I'll just swap the heatsinks over. Let's see if they will do that. I'd contact MinerSource, but since they don't respond to emails, private messages and they cancelled their phone number, I'm not sure how to get a hold of them. Update: while MS normally has not responded promptly, I got a response about the faulty hashboard and he said that they have replacements. So perhaps there is some light in all of this.
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Technobit why you still no answer?Technobit is failing to provide critical information yet again on shipping. Same pattern as previously stated last year by many who were burned.
Thanks Vesi, but my question specifically asked where you are in the queue, and how you were handling the queue. Are you almost done with batch 1 orders?
I appreciate Marto's and technobit's intention to provide an open, transparent process. This question should be easy to answer. Could you answer it please? We note that being polite doesn't get your answer any faster no matter the claims from Technobit to the contrary.
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Some old RMA notes #askftc Huh, so you're saying your unit did not perform double round sha256 calculations? I bet you're lying. I bet if we tested your equipment right now it would, in fact, perform double round sha256 calculations just fine. Come on now, fess up.
Never performed to specifications? Why didn't you RMA it then?.
Okay, I'll bite. I can say mine didn't. In fact I can say mine was broken and was RMA'd..... in December last year. I have failed to receive the unit back after shipping it off, and every email has been ignored since enquiring where the hell the damn thing is. Not that it's any good now... So as you say "You should be more careful to not make such easily disproved assertions in your statements on an anonymous internet forum". I wonder if anyone else can find another model that didn't meet the initial advertised specs.
FTFY. And in response.... like all of them. |
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Any Monarch owners out there needing to vent?
#askftc
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I don't see how MS can be legally selling devices without any US certifications like FCC.
BFL move. Has anyone complained to the FCC? |
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More and more reasons not to buy Technobit.I have not received a single board yet. Waiting on 25 boards. Where any boards shipped out this week? I didn't get my usual email from DHL that a package was being delivered... Still waiting on 67 more boards plus 1 rma.
second week of no boards delivered. still waiting for 67 more boards.
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 And the shut down's of smaller miners continues... why are you buying miners?The signs are there. Are you reading the signs people? 5 cents a KWh. You can also add me to the turning it off bunch. Moving out of colo, and retiring some 50+ TH of FrankenJups, S1s, Dragons, SP10s, S3s and BTCGardens.
We're moving 60TH to a warehouse with 5 cent power and about 50kw of capacity, and after the winter we'll likely be totally out. With the warehouse we can turn it off/on when profitable, which doesn't work in a colo situation.
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And the band plays on. Technobit.eu is not the manufacturer you are looking for.Where any boards shipped out this week? I didn't get my usual email from DHL that a package was being delivered... Still waiting on 67 more boards plus 1 rma.
second week of no boards delivered. still waiting for 67 more boards.
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Forget about the btc vs USD refunds argument.
Hashfast couldn't even give out USD refunds so either way you were fucked.
The problem is that hashfast spent more than $10/gh producing hardware that every other company was able to produce for $0.5-1/gh.
Either they were mind bogglingly incompetent, they were scammed, or they are scammers. Take your pick.
Scammers. Glad we got to the bottom of that. BFL style. |
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Technobit's no answer answers.And the shell game continues. Given the current price of BTC anyone buying miners really should not be buying from people who are willfully ripping people off without compensation. 15 weeks? Hello? Anyone out there in technobit land?
Hi, We are here. Shipping every day. If your order is packed you are getting e-mail . Again We know you wait too long and we sorry about that situation. If you want off the deal , just give us shipping address and we'll ship you back the chips Regards: Vesi Thanks Vesi, but my question specifically asked where you are in the queue, and how you were handling the queue. Are you almost done with batch 1 orders?
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... GO FREICOIN! This is going to be an interesting time for Bitcoin and even more interesting for FRC! Imagine a technology that makes it possible to trust anyone. Now imagine your bank, your mortgage and all your assets are all built with that technology. This is certainly not our present, but it could be our future. Blockstream is a group of people who share a vision of how to transform global systems of value exchange that, by design, put you first. 5.1.2 Economic experimentationBitcoin’s reward structure assigns new coins to miners. This effectively inflates the currency but it winds down over time according to a step-wise schedule. Using this inflation to subsidise mining has been a successful complement to transaction fees to secure the network. An alternate mechanism for achieving block rewards on the sidechain is demurrage, an idea pioneered for digital currency by Freicoin ( http://freico.in). |
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LOL just saw Inaba's trust rating. Has anyone ever had one so low?
Yes, receivership is serious. I wonder what percentage of companies in receivership ever get out and resume business. I'd GUESS some percentage very, very low. Game over, finally. (I smelled it a mile away.)
The only thing you smelled was your upper lip. As a side note, Syke is lying again about BFL. Who knew? Oh wait... Everyone, cause that's all he does. Inaba Trust: -2021Warning: Trade with extreme caution! Tells us all again how everyone else is a "liar" but you are not one. We like that story. |
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Technobit goes dark on customer questions.Hello? Anyone out there in technobit land?
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Anyone own these miners? Like I mean an actually paying customer.  Want to get some feedback from them on the experiences with this company. Still no one who is a "real" consumer? I guess no one wants these as they are way over priced. Mind you what isn't these days? |
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Of course, never intended to hide it though I am only asking them to take into consideration. Even without my comments, it is clear that they shipped and have a product that they sold from stock. It's their own product (despite not manufacturing their own chips).
I will only add fabricators that have a number of happy / sad customers. What you have stipulated are known agents or resellers and given Minersource's lack of refunds for some of their product lines I would rather not add Bitcrane based on that crappy company's recommendation. Bobsag has a so many wonky deals that if he is recommending it you want to have a long hard look at it. I'd prefer adding Bitcrane if customers come forward. Not seen any customers yet. And at this point I think it is better to be clear that mining on the small or home scale is done like dinner, for the short term and possibly forever. There might be some use for home scale mining for altcoins given the potential growth vs the difficulty of getting coins on exchange. Then again if they are hard to get on exchange there is little point to a coin then as well. $1300 for 1THs is so 6 months ago! Lol. Who on earth would pay that much these days? You can buy an S4 and get 2THs for the same price.
That's why I'm waiting. Even the S4 with a coupon is still a little overpriced. You can pick up used Dragons in the $400ish range, so $800-900 should be the sweet spot. But what do I know, Bitmain seems to be doing well. |
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Decentralization continued, really??. Sorry Bitmain, while you guys have provided lots of good product to consumers the decentralization train left the station some time ago.
Why does everyone quote ck like he is a God? He's just one person, like everyone else. He has no additional knowledge of the market, like everyone else. He isn't God. He is just right as Flying Hellfish and klondike_bar say. If you disagree then why not put up a case to rivals his? Unfortunately the numbers don't square and anyone who is looking forward understands this game of small mining is dead for profit motives. Do you have any evidence to support some other conclusion? If you do then please share that with the community. Now having said that. Maybe units with other purposes beyond mining or dual purpose and mining might be the way to decentralize mining this bee hive looking unit is a step in that direction. This is the right way of thinking about this... but not a rice cooker. Think consumer electronics that require being on all the time. Wallets like the Trezor possibly or maybe storage NAS systems. Look like the latest rice cooker!  |
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Home Mining Reality Check. Time to stop buying miners was 6 months or more ago.Given all the numbers available it makes little sense right now to buy miners for small scale or home use if you are looking to get a return or find profit. Do you have some comments on how mining will turn now? A lot of home miners stopped mining due to -ve ROI.
Interesting question. All the more interesting because no one has actually asked me before on the forums, even though I've discussed it at length on IRC and am very happy at any time for people to know what I think. Mining died for the community/home miner a long time ago. It's just that the community miners haven't realised or accepted it yet. Community mining is only 15% of the hashrate now and shrinking. They're always hopeful and expectant but there really is no reason for them to be that way. Mining has gone to the data halls and the massive farms, mostly run by the manufacturers themselves who have the ability to create hardware on the cheap and offer it to the select few entities who can help their mining operations or provide funding or cheap hosting, instead of the consumer buyer market which is annoying, small time, noisy and boring. The only reason they continue to sell to that regular consumer market is there are enough people who have unrealistic expectations of making a profit somehow because they simply cannot believe that the numbers are stacked against them, such that the hardware manufacturers can charge a ridiculous premium to sell to that market to make it worth their while.This should come as no surprise to anyone who's been watching bitcoin at large, but it will continue to surprise bitcoin miners, past, present and future. The reason miners don't see it is they're so blinded by the concept of a "money making machine" or the "goose that laid the golden egg" that they just can't see it. Here's a quote of mine. Note the date on it: Long term, cgminer will be the lowest overhead c software to drive ASICs to do bitcoin mining, with lots of code in it that is no longer relevant to BTC mining. What I really worry about, is that new hardware will continue to come out frequently enough that people end up on a cycle of investing in hardware that basically never pays itself off as slightly newer hardware and higher diffs keep coming out. Sure at some stage the limits of technology will be reached, but given the best tech at the moment is going to be 65nm ASICs when CPUs are 28nm devices, I can see the cycle going on for some time, and then even if btc mining ASICs end up in line with CPU manufacturers, they still continue to evolve over time. Dramatic profits from ASICs will likely only last a couple of weeks at most for a lucky few. The rest of you who paid for devices that don't even exist yet will not be making any magical profit no matter how big the hashrate appears. Your proportion of the total bitcoin hashrate will remain pitiful.
To give you an idea of how long this has been known to the bitcoin community, even if miners refuse to see it, I think it's best to leave the final word to Satoshi himself, the inventor of bitcoin: The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale. That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server. The design supports letting users just be users. The more burden it is to run a node, the fewer nodes there will be. Those few nodes will be big server farms. The rest will be client nodes that only do transactions and don't generate.
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