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1141  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] Whirlwind.money - withdrawals are not being processed ⚠️ on: August 18, 2023, 10:26:15 AM
Can someone confirm what "Anonymity set, 572user deposits" means?
Does this mean that currently, 572 users (addresses) have a deposit there? As far as I can see, the last deposit was 4 days ago, does that mean that nobody has used this mixer since then?
I always thought that number was the amount of deposits made so far and not that 572 users have deposits there.

1142  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] Whirlwind.money - withdrawals are not being processed ⚠️ on: August 18, 2023, 08:05:15 AM
They agreed to a 7 day delay. They couldn't withdraw from escrow to pull an exit scam.
If they decided to leave those 40k, wouldn't that mean that people deposited more than that + what sig campaign members didn't withdraw? If not, then it would make more sense to pay out everyone what is owed and take that 40k.
1143  Economy / Reputation / Re: Strange behaviour of too many alts at once. on: August 18, 2023, 07:02:28 AM
I would like to read opinions from the community before, if appropriate, proceeding to leave more tags.
Looks to me like a classic thread bumping case, and we've seen quite a lot of of those even on altcoin board where leaving posts can't get you on the top like it's the case here.

Based on their M.O. (use of old newbie accounts) my guess is that this is the work of infamous Vitor Services that is usually responsible for this type of "marketing".
1144  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] Whirlwind.money - withdrawals are not being processed ⚠️ on: August 17, 2023, 11:48:17 AM
Yes. I mentioned the unrest here, together with the scam accusations starting to brew.
If that didn't persuade them to do something, then indeed we can talk about exit scam here. Someone who intends to continue business here would do everything in his power to sort the issues asap and not leave it like this.


If everyone or majority of members complained than it would not be possible for anyone to force this changes.
Maybe, if we all said no to the notes. Or we would be replaced with those that would be willing to get paid that way as not getting paid directly is not something unusual here and its been done many times before.


and I would not agree on this terms myself if I was in that position.
The fact that no one (afaik) left campaign after notes introduction says a lot.  Wink

1145  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] Whirlwind.money - withdrawals are not being processed ⚠️ on: August 17, 2023, 11:26:10 AM
I did once, but I had some good money there.
Well, at least you didn't lose everything as I initially understood from your post.



@Hhampuz when you talked to them the other day, did you explain that unless they come and sort these issues out asap they will be seen as a scam as that's exactly what is happening now and that is not something that is easy to recover from considering their line of business. If you indeed explained them consequences and they decided to ignore it...




When was this IOU notes change introduced and why nobody complained to campaign manager?
I can't remember when exactly, but I personally didn't complain because those were the terms of the campaign so if you don't like it, what you can do is to leave the campaign (I doubt that there would be exceptions for those who complained) and on top of that I've been in a campaign before where I wasn't paid directly to my wallet (Bustadice) and never had any issues. Lesson learned I guess.
1146  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] Whirlwind.money - withdrawals are not being processed ⚠️ on: August 17, 2023, 11:09:35 AM
I was holding my campaign rewards on the website, and just when I ended the campaign all the drama started. Horrible timing.
You didn't withdraw any of your ww signature campaign earnings? Damn, and I thought me holding 5 weeks of signature campaign money (+last week's earning that no one can withdraw) was a bad move...


I am sure most of them would choose to get paid directly in Bitcoin and later deposit to earn more rewards if they want.
Of course we would choose getting the money directly into our own wallets instead this note system.
1147  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: August 16, 2023, 04:13:40 PM
Možda bi najbolje bilo zatražiti povlačenje sredstava dok je još moguće i sačuvati potpisanu poruku (letter of guarantee) koju WhirlWind generira pri tom zahtjevu. Takva poruka sadržava sve bitne podatke za potvrdu (javna adresa note, datum i vrijeme, withdraw adrese i iznosi). Mislim da bi to trebalo biti dovoljno kao dokaz za oslobađanje sredstava iz escrow-a.
Ma vec sam to napravio, ali problem ce nastati ako iznos koji duguju ljudima bude veci od escrow iznosa koji je $40k DAI, a vjerojatno ce to biti slucaj.



U ostalim vijestima, icopress je upravo pokrenuo novu kampanju [OPEN] 0xBET - Crypto Casino | Sig Campaign | Up to 0.0025 BTC/W. Kao sto se vidi iz naslova maksimalna isplata za Legendary je 0.0025 BTC tjedno a od pravila, bitno je istaknuti da se postovi na lokalnim boardovima ne broje.
1148  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Warning] Lucpey exchanger pretending to be BestChange partner on: August 16, 2023, 03:57:28 PM
The best exchanger, everything always comes instantly, support always helps with some awkward situations, if any.

Hah, I see that you guys have no plans of stopping using shill accounts to promote your crappy exchanger. Anyway, another alt account tagged.
1149  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: August 16, 2023, 12:58:40 PM
Ovo je bas lose sa zarobljenim novcem. Treba pokusati napraviti resenje sa minerjones koji drzi nesto njihovih sredstava kao escrow.
Situacija nikako nije ugodna jer trenutno imam tamo ~$900 vrijednog BTCa sto nije bezvezena cifra a sigurno ima i onih sa vise. Nadam se da ce se situacija rijesiti bez potrebe sa escrow lovom ( u biti nemam pojma dal bi to uopce bilo moguce) te da ce se predstavnici napokon pojaviti sa objasnjenjem.


btw. Pitanje za vas ucesnike ww kampanje, ukoliko se nekako ozivi ova kampanja, hocete li nastaviti sa njom ili trazite nesto stabilnije?
Sto se mene tice, ovisi u kakvoj kampanji budem u tom trenutku te koliko budu placali, a i tome na koji nacin se vrate i rasciste trenutnu situaciju. Do sada mi se uglavnom isplatilo riskiranje sa prelaskom u bolje placene kampanje, a jedini put kad sam kalkulirao te se nisam htio prijaviti u bolje placenu (mixtum) jer sam eto htio biti lojalan ww se nije pokazalo kao posebno pametan potez.

edit: vidim da je ww sluzbeni acc dobio par tagova te da se sprema i type 1 flag.
1150  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: August 16, 2023, 05:15:55 AM
Whirlwind kampanja na kraju ipak ide na poduži hold. Biti će zanimljivo vidjeti kako će se odigrati ovo sa blokiranim isplatama od kampanje jer trenutno nitko ne može povući ovu zadnju isplatu a neki kao cryptofrka i ja imaju tamo i isplate od prijašnjih tjedana.

Round 20 Payments have been sent to your Notes!


Thank you all for yet another great week. Unfortunately I'm putting this campaign on hold indefinitely. I was hoping whirlwind would have come here and posted an update by now but we discussed the campaign among other things last night and right now it's looking like we will not continue with this campaign. It's been nearly 5 months and while I would have hoped things to turn out in a different way it is what it is. It's been an absolute pleasure to work with a lot of you, some for the first time, and hopefully we can do so again in the future.

I'm patiently waiting for whirlwind to come back to the forum with their update and comments regarding the "frozen" state of the site over this past week.

You can now remove your Signatures and Avatars and apply to other campaigns.
1151  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Whirlwind.money | ⚡No Fee⚡ | Ultimate Privacy | Anonymity Mining 12% APR🔥 on: August 16, 2023, 05:05:51 AM
I'm curious if other Whirlwind campaign participants are having the same problem withdrawing BTC?
You are not alone, all the others that are trying to withdraw in the last few days are having the same issue.
1152  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: HOW CAN BITCOIN STORED IN DOWNLOADED WALLET BE RECOVERED? on: August 15, 2023, 01:33:42 PM
Don't use web wallet or hot wallet, use hardware wallet or cold storage where it's not connected with internet. If your coins gone, you can't recover it since Bitcoin transaction is irreversible.
Hot wallets have their use, for example when you need a wallet that you will use on a daily basis and where you won't hold more than few hundreds off dollars worth of bitcoin.

Problems start when people use hot wallets to store larger amount of crypto which is extremely risky and accident waiting to happen.
1153  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: HOW CAN BITCOIN STORED IN DOWNLOADED WALLET BE RECOVERED? on: August 15, 2023, 12:47:25 PM
Furthermore, can scammers create wallets that fall into these categories with the sole aim of stealing people's fund when they have gotten popular and the number of users they target?

If you stick to popular open source wallets like Electrum that have been extensively tested by community, chances of that happening are slim to none.
 

Finally, my findings shows that Blockchain is one of the pioneer wallets that I thought was decentralized.  I want to ask if they are still decentralized and if they are perfect for use.
That's one of the worst possible wallets that you can use since you don't own private keys meaning you don't even own crypto that you store there.
1154  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: August 15, 2023, 10:19:05 AM
Why don't they tighten the security measures while accepting supporters to the stadium? How can someone bring knife to the stadium undetected

AEK fan wasn't killed on the stadium but in the area around the stadium the night before the game.



 If they were more careful that man wasn't going to be stabbed to death.
This part is true, Greek police should have been more careful and not let Bad Blue Boys ever reach Athens. Both Croatian and Montenegro police send them all the info needed but for whatever reason they decide not to to act and result was unfortunately death of AEK fan.

Tonight I don't expect any issues in Zagreb; first because AEK fans won't try to reach Dinamo stadium and 2nd, even if they try, there's so much police today in Zagreb that would be mission impossible to enter Zagreb, let alone reach the stadium.
1155  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: August 15, 2023, 03:41:25 AM
Update situacije, Hhampuz je uspio doći do njih i izgleda da se nije dogodilo ništa ozbiljno te da se sve nastavlja po starom.

I got an email back from whirlwind just now and it was as I suspected - something happened.

Basically, main people lost access due to travels while people still with access didn't have the right credentials to solve basic issues that caused withdraws to get stuck on the back-end. I've been assured that nothing has been lost and that all will be taken care of tomorrow meaning all currently pending withdraws will be processed and things return back to normal. It was an unfortunate situation is all!

I've asked my contact at whirlwind to reply in this thread whenever they can with further details, so from now until then/tomorrow night there is no need to panic even if I wouldn't recommend you to deposit until the backlog is cleared. Campaign participants will also be paid out as per usual tomorrow, regardless of if you've removed your signature or not.
1156  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja on: August 14, 2023, 06:03:17 PM
Izgleda nekakvi problemi s Whirlwindom - ne znam jeste li vidjeli.
Da vidio, I iskusio te probleme. Jučer sam probao povući 0.025 BTC koje sam skupio od signature kampanje i evo do sada nisam nista dobio.

Uglavnom situacija trenutno nikako ne izgleda dobro.
1157  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: 1 Bitcoin 100 milijna USD on: August 14, 2023, 03:10:20 PM
Kad se cijena krene racunati u SATS vrlo lako bi mogli dobaciti na 1 USD za 1 SATS
Mislim da je obrnuto; jednom kada 1 satoshi bude vrijedio puno vise nego trenutno onda bi se mogli prebaciti na racunanje u SATS. A ne vjerujem da ce se to dogoditi prije nego 1 satoshi bude vrijedio 1 dolar. Nekako mi se cini da mBTC ima vise puno vise sanse da zazivi.


Najgore od svega sto tvoji prijatelji i nisu znali sta kupuju ,predpostavljam ,i sam sam do pre nekog vremena bio takav nista nisam razumio  samo sam se nadao da cijena skoci i da uzmem profit a usao sam na pocetku 2017
Sve dok nisam procitao ovu knjigu Bitcoin standard prosirio sam mnogo vidike iako sam do tada mislio da mi je sve jasno
Ma njima se skroz jebe za bitcoin "budi svoja banka' filozofiju, oni na to gledaju iskljucivo kao na investiciju i tesko da ce ikada promjeniti misljenje i ima hrpa takvih kao sto su oni koji jednostavno ne vole niti zele tu odgovornost.

Znam jednog old school tradera/investitora (prijatelja od prijatelja u biti) koji od toga zivi zadnjih ~20 godina te iako je nekad radio u IT bransi (znaci ima tehnicko znanje) uopce ne zeli taknuti Bitcoin nego lik ulaze preko Grayscalea. Pokusavao sam mu objasniti da uopce nije tako tesko osigurati svoj BTC, ali uzalud.

1158  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "The Significance of Independence Day: 14 August Independence day of Pakistan ' on: August 14, 2023, 11:21:19 AM
I honestly see no point of having this topic in Meta as it doesn't have to do anything with the forum. Since its Pakistan independence day, it makes sense to celebrate it in your own local board and not here.
1159  Other / Meta / Re: Igebotz Nigerian Local Board Merit Source Application on: August 14, 2023, 10:54:43 AM
Isn't that exclusively for posts on the English board?
If you check the rules set by LoyceV, there's no mention that submitted posts should be in English.


I've never seen somebody submit a post from the local board to that thread before. Most of our local posts are written entirely in pidgin. I'm not sure how that will help.
Here are few submissions I made, asking merit sources if they can help our quality members rank up. Majority of the postsI shared were in Croatian and they were merited anyway. Luckily we now have more merit sources so that is not needed anymore.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.msg55620839#msg55620839
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.msg56662642#msg56662642
1160  Other / Meta / Re: Requires support from merit sources on: August 14, 2023, 05:53:47 AM
Am I not allowed to ask for support from merit sources for such activities? sorry I don't know about that
Members are usually asking help for the already wreitten good posts, but what you are asking is for merit sources to help you in a thread that has nothing to do with crypto, so more people can post their non-crypto related stuff and get merit which in the end can turn into merit fishing.


Looking at the total post and merit flooding in their local board there's no need to seek such help because they're top 2 position in the highest merit sharing.
To be fair, they are so high only because there are few external merit sources that have been helping them in the last few months.
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