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April 02, 2019, 04:28:34 PM
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April 03, 2019, 03:43:35 PM
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Anyone have info on the Private Blog: The Dow – Euro – Capital Flows? Thanks in advance.



To Summarize on the Dow-Euro Capital Flows

Politics is driving capital flows into the USA intensely.
We are not going to have a major correction of 50%.
The model shows that we will make new historical highs beyond 2020 and we will see 30,000 on the DOW before we ever see 15,000.

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April 04, 2019, 04:56:24 AM
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Did it mention any stock corrections coming soon ?or it is
A vertical market all the way to 30000

Anyone have info on the Private Blog: The Dow – Euro – Capital Flows? Thanks in advance.



To Summarize on the Dow-Euro Capital Flows

Politics is driving capital flows into the USA intensely.
We are not going to have a major correction of 50%.
The model shows that we will make new historical highs beyond 2020 and we will see 30,000 on the DOW before we ever see 15,000.


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April 04, 2019, 08:32:01 AM
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Ow. See, that's the reason why I'm wary of crude. Big green candle got me out.

Is there a complete record of Armstrong's trading?
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April 05, 2019, 04:29:11 AM
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Ow. See, that's the reason why I'm wary of crude. Big green candle got me out.

Is there a complete record of Armstrong's trading?

Is there any record of Armstrong's trading that isn't on his site?

Also, are there any people who have followed Armstrong's calls for years and still go with him? Remember, even if Armstrong's computer is as great as it is purported to be, it doesn't matter if one can't understand it. It needs to be objective and 'lines in the sand'. The timing model isn't really that. The Reversals are. How accurate are they? Who knows. An objective win-loss record is needed.
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April 05, 2019, 02:08:13 PM
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Shorted spx at 2890 just now
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April 05, 2019, 02:28:20 PM
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Closed for small amounts due to possible theta-Friday
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April 08, 2019, 06:27:44 AM
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Closed for small amounts due to possible theta-Friday

is this a trading thread now? Thought it was supposed to be about economics.
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April 08, 2019, 08:04:22 PM
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Ow. See, that's the reason why I'm wary of crude. Big green candle got me out.

Is there a complete record of Armstrong's trading?

Is there any record of Armstrong's trading that isn't on his site?

Also, are there any people who have followed Armstrong's calls for years and still go with him? Remember, even if Armstrong's computer is as great as it is purported to be, it doesn't matter if one can't understand it. It needs to be objective and 'lines in the sand'. The timing model isn't really that. The Reversals are. How accurate are they? Who knows. An objective win-loss record is needed.

That's right.  "it doesn't matter if one can't understand it"

Armstrong NEVER had any real trading record, unlike MANY other stock newsletters that I subscribed to.  ALL reputable stock newsletters will always attach a date for their recommendation, along with the price at that time.

A profit cannot be made without a buy and a sell (and doesn't matter which comes first).  Either you enter the trade based on timing or based on price, but there must be a buy and a sell.  In the case of not calling the "sell", the assumption is that you buy at the right time, and the "sell" price will be the current market price.  You cannot claim any credit, if you have never put out a buy call with a DATE stamped on it.

I kept proposing to generate some automatic buy/sell signals from his timing arrays, and/or reversal levels, just to "see the value of his models".  Simple strategy like buying volatility (by buying both put/calls) for his panic month/week from the array, or just between a very high/low bars shown in the composite, "should" technically work over time, assuming that his model is anywhere close to accurate.

My personal attempts to trade using his model have almost always resulted in losses.  I initially blamed on me not understanding his model, but over time, I realized that that is exactly Armstrong's strategy: making you NOT understanding it, so that his model is NEVER to be blamed.

Again, all of you can keep chiming in, and cheer-lead the Great Armstrong.

However, the only thing that will never lie to you is PROFIT and truth/math.  The ECM date as October 4th, 2015, is simply NOT the same date as September 30th/October 1st, 2015.  There are just no claims that can be made to make ECM date as "down to the day".

After 253 pages on this forum, people are still here arguing the true understanding & interpretation of his latest blog, and exactly whether slingslot has happened or not.

Socrates/Armstrong should be able to answer that question in extremely clear cut "yes or no".

Oh, by the way, Armstrong did say that we have a cycle inversion (right? or whatever that means), but again, that is just way too late for anyone to trade on it.
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April 08, 2019, 08:23:49 PM
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But still funny that he only posts very positive emails from readers, while he seems to be wrong on multiple occasions in at least the past 6 months.
he has dealt with a lot of criticism in the past years and he has had enough of that.
This is what I think he thinks.

No wonder. He has been wrong so many times lately, so he just filters out so that only fanmail is left? Smart move.
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April 09, 2019, 04:02:33 PM
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Closed for small amounts due to possible theta-Friday

is this a trading thread now? Thought it was supposed to be about economics.

Nope, its all about making predictions of monetary value.
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April 09, 2019, 04:06:54 PM
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Closed for small amounts due to possible theta-Friday

is this a trading thread now? Thought it was supposed to be about economics.

Nope, its all about making predictions of monetary value.
Its supposed to be about economics and actually armstrong's predictive analysis actually, that is why its in the economics section, please stick to the rules.
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April 09, 2019, 05:39:02 PM
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Closed for small amounts due to possible theta-Friday

is this a trading thread now? Thought it was supposed to be about economics.

Nope, its all about making predictions of monetary value.
Its supposed to be about economics and actually armstrong's predictive analysis actually, that is why its in the economics section, please stick to the rules.

Ok, fair enough. I think Armstrong's been debunked for most part- his computer's technical analysis works pretty well but his predictive cycle stuff just isn't consistent.
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April 09, 2019, 08:35:12 PM
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Closed for small amounts due to possible theta-Friday

is this a trading thread now? Thought it was supposed to be about economics.

Nope, its all about making predictions of monetary value.
Its supposed to be about economics and actually armstrong's predictive analysis actually, that is why its in the economics section, please stick to the rules.

Ok, fair enough. I think Armstrong's been debunked for most part- his computer's technical analysis works pretty well but his predictive cycle stuff just isn't consistent.

I think trade talk is entirely appropriate here.
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April 09, 2019, 11:40:53 PM
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Closed for small amounts due to possible theta-Friday

is this a trading thread now? Thought it was supposed to be about economics.

Nope, its all about making predictions of monetary value.
Its supposed to be about economics and actually armstrong's predictive analysis actually, that is why its in the economics section, please stick to the rules.

Ok, fair enough. I think Armstrong's been debunked for most part- his computer's technical analysis works pretty well but his predictive cycle stuff just isn't consistent.

I think trade talk is entirely appropriate here.

Incidentally, my current style is something I took from Armstrong. I used to save and input Socrates numbers of support and resistance on the daily levels onto my charting on the Dow, S and P, and Nasdaq over time without deleting any levels. They were not 100%, and I never knew when they would hit, but I waited for two to hit at the same time intraday and that would be my trade. It worked really well and accurately. I pretty much do the same thing these days but derive my own method of picking points as well as using several other related products to locate reversal points, which works even better. Actually, this happened today at the LoD for /ES.
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April 10, 2019, 01:08:24 AM
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Closed for small amounts due to possible theta-Friday

is this a trading thread now? Thought it was supposed to be about economics.

Nope, its all about making predictions of monetary value.
Its supposed to be about economics and actually armstrong's predictive analysis actually, that is why its in the economics section, please stick to the rules.

Ok, fair enough. I think Armstrong's been debunked for most part- his computer's technical analysis works pretty well but his predictive cycle stuff just isn't consistent.

I think trade talk is entirely appropriate here.

Incidentally, my current style is something I took from Armstrong. I used to save and input Socrates numbers of support and resistance on the daily levels onto my charting on the Dow, S and P, and Nasdaq over time without deleting any levels. They were not 100%, and I never knew when they would hit, but I waited for two to hit at the same time intraday and that would be my trade. It worked really well and accurately. I pretty much do the same thing these days but derive my own method of picking points as well as using several other related products to locate reversal points, which works even better. Actually, this happened today at the LoD for /ES.
then this thread should be moved to tradetalk i follow this to chat about his long term analysis and not your SL/TP targets on market positions.
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April 10, 2019, 04:09:09 AM
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I'd just written a very long and detailed post. Then timed out. Not going to write it all again, but the main points:

Armstrong's timing model is subjective even when he says it is objective.

If you're following even his long term calls, you still are using Socrates and not his fundamental analysis, because that would be subjective.

Armstrong's technical analysis seems to work and he sometimes times the corrections but sometimes false positives.

There's a new post. If someone wants to post it, we can see if the Dow is a temp high or not based on his call if that's what the title refers to.

There are certain high probability trades in the market. Use alignment and confluence of price levels. I got this strategy from Armstrong. It works.

If Armstrong is a big shot, other big shots should have mentioned him. Any Paul Tudor Jones, John Paulson, etc say anything?

Armstrong refers to himself on his site when he is in the news- its usually the single 'pi in the sky' news article.

An objective third party is required to translate Armstrong's calls so no one can say he was right or not. That third party is your trading account.
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April 10, 2019, 09:33:30 PM
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I'd just written a very long and detailed post. Then timed out. Not going to write it all again, but the main points:

Armstrong's timing model is subjective even when he says it is objective.

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That's a pity that your post timed out.  I enjoy your counter points the most here.  I obviously want to learn from a different voice other than my own small brain.

I always make a copy of my post to Notepad before I clicked on ANY buttons, or even write it in Notepad and then cut & paste it.  I was a financial blogger in the past, and that happened enough times to me for me to learn the lesson.

Yes, I know that "pi in the sky" article.  I believe Armstrong is extremely good in persuading many people, including journalists, politicians, many traders.  Whether Nigel goes to ECM conference or not, or he managed to convince 95% of human population, really does NOT matter.  The only thing that matters is whether trading PROFIT is there.

PROFITS need no persuasion.  If it works and produce profits, without all the if-then-else, then-that, then-cycle-inversion, then-market-is-always-right, etc.  it simply requires no persuasion.

If a regular human with sufficient English knowledge, is unable to understand Armstrong's trading English to be able to trade successfully, then Armstrong has FAILED to deliver.

Subscribers pay money to know how/what to trade.  They should NOT need to pay another person or come to this forum to find another trading wizard to interpret THE trading wizard.  In fact, isn't that what this all about?  Armstrong (the trading wizard) interprets Socrates (the trading wizard).  And you need another trading wizard to interpret Armstrong??  Can you imagine how much information get lost along the way, if it's really done this way?

Everytime that I see this "third person trick" used (by real estate agents in negotiations, con artists, etc) is to deflect any blames away from yourself (the first person who is delivering the lies), and let the "second person" (receiver of lies) focus on your good points, while let the "third person" (whoever is NOT there) takes all the blames or questions.  The fact that the "third person" is NOT there serves MANY purpose, and put up the finishing touches on any argument holes that cannot be verified.

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April 11, 2019, 02:00:58 AM
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Latest audio interview from Armstrong.  He is saying gold will NOT be ready for bull market until next year.  I tend to agree with him on his gold view.

SEE this us dollar index chart:

https://live.staticflickr.com/7882/40617022643_aecc36f7c2_h.jpg


https://youtu.be/urGdXiVuIsE



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April 11, 2019, 08:26:24 PM
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Latest audio interview from Armstrong.  He is saying gold will NOT be ready for bull market until next year.  I tend to agree with him on his gold view.

SEE this us dollar index chart:

https://live.staticflickr.com/7882/40617022643_aecc36f7c2_h.jpg


https://youtu.be/urGdXiVuIsE





Someone mentioned in the comments that it was an old video. But gold not being ready for bull market until next year isn't the same as saying gold will be in a bull market next year. I'm sure there'll be a blog post on it. My guess is that it would have to close above the major Reversal

Caught the precise low of the day on the Dow...and sold early. Profit is profit, I suppose. MA, I'll post up a writeup when I have time over the weekend on how to consistently forecast short term price, buy lows and sell highs, and other proven methods. Other Armstrong related stuff too, the good and the bad. I did like posting trades in real time but I understand that people get emails each time a post is made and spamming the thread isn't a great idea. I used to do it on other trading sites, but then there were arguments about algos and bots and a bunch of other ridiculous nonsense.
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