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Author Topic: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v15.0 (Windows/Linux)  (Read 6591297 times)
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April 12, 2018, 04:57:56 PM
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So 825 h/sec on monero earns about as much as 29 mh/sec on eth, but monero draws 3/4 the power.  Monero seems like a no brainer for Polaris.
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April 12, 2018, 05:23:22 PM
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So 825 h/sec on monero earns about as much as 29 mh/sec on eth, but monero draws 3/4 the power.  Monero seems like a no brainer for Polaris.

RX 580 is around 98 watts for 29.5mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 895mv.

RX 580 is around 122 watts for 30.0mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 950mv.

RX 480 can get a much lower power draw with undervolting, than the RX 580.

You would be wrong about the power draws for Ethereum.
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April 12, 2018, 05:52:06 PM
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So 825 h/sec on monero earns about as much as 29 mh/sec on eth, but monero draws 3/4 the power.  Monero seems like a no brainer for Polaris.

RX 580 is around 98 watts for 29.5mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 895mv.

RX 580 is around 122 watts for 30.0mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 950mv.

RX 480 can get a much lower power draw with undervolting, than the RX 580.

You would be wrong about the power draws for Ethereum.

Maybe you have some exceptional silicon?  Most of the numbers I've seen on these boards are closer to 120W at the wall for rx580, i.e.  about 750W for an ordinary 6-card rig.  Seen plenty of people pulling 800-900 watts, probably bc they're not undervolting enough.  My 580s are undervolted to around 850-860 and they pull about 115-120 from the wall while doing 29-29.5 on eth.  They only pull about 90W on monero while doing 825-850 h/sec.

In any event, even if the magnitude is off, what matters is the relative power draw between eth and xmr.  Even if the 580 is 98W for 29.5 mh/sec, xmr is better to mine at 75W for 850 h/sec.
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So 825 h/sec on monero earns about as much as 29 mh/sec on eth, but monero draws 3/4 the power.  Monero seems like a no brainer for Polaris.

RX 580 is around 98 watts for 29.5mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 895mv.

RX 580 is around 122 watts for 30.0mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 950mv.

RX 480 can get a much lower power draw with undervolting, than the RX 580.

You would be wrong about the power draws for Ethereum.

Maybe you have some exceptional silicon?  Most of the numbers I've seen on these boards are closer to 120W at the wall for rx580, i.e.  about 750W for an ordinary 6-card rig.  Seen plenty of people pulling 800-900 watts, probably bc they're not undervolting enough.  My 580s are undervolted to around 850-860 and they pull about 115-120 from the wall while doing 29-29.5 on eth.  They only pull about 90W on monero while doing 825-850 h/sec.

In any event, even if the magnitude is off, what matters is the relative power draw between eth and xmr.  Even if the 580 is 98W for 29.5 mh/sec, xmr is better to mine at 75W for 850 h/sec.

RX 580 8GB review at 950mv undervolt - 121.8 watts for 30.05mhs

https://cryptoyeti.com/msi-rx580-armor-8g-review-and-bios-mod-guide/3/

Use, HWINFO to verify that you GPUs are accepting those undervolts.

https://www.hwinfo.com/

Because on RX Vega 56 - you cannot set an undervolt below 900mv via Adrenalin drivers.


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April 12, 2018, 09:05:47 PM
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So 825 h/sec on monero earns about as much as 29 mh/sec on eth, but monero draws 3/4 the power.  Monero seems like a no brainer for Polaris.

RX 580 is around 98 watts for 29.5mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 895mv.

RX 580 is around 122 watts for 30.0mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 950mv.

RX 480 can get a much lower power draw with undervolting, than the RX 580.

You would be wrong about the power draws for Ethereum.

Maybe you have some exceptional silicon?  Most of the numbers I've seen on these boards are closer to 120W at the wall for rx580, i.e.  about 750W for an ordinary 6-card rig.  Seen plenty of people pulling 800-900 watts, probably bc they're not undervolting enough.  My 580s are undervolted to around 850-860 and they pull about 115-120 from the wall while doing 29-29.5 on eth.  They only pull about 90W on monero while doing 825-850 h/sec.

In any event, even if the magnitude is off, what matters is the relative power draw between eth and xmr.  Even if the 580 is 98W for 29.5 mh/sec, xmr is better to mine at 75W for 850 h/sec.

RX 580 8GB review at 950mv undervolt - 121.8 watts for 30.05mhs

https://cryptoyeti.com/msi-rx580-armor-8g-review-and-bios-mod-guide/3/

Use, HWINFO to verify that you GPUs are accepting those undervolts.

https://www.hwinfo.com/

Because on RX Vega 56 - you cannot set an undervolt below 900mv via Adrenalin drivers.




Which version of AMD driver are you using to get 98W? (Most of my RX580 pull 125W or higher from the wall on blockchain beta or 100W from the wall on 17.3 prior to blockchain beta with similar OC settings)
Also, did you measure the watt from the wall or from HWInfo?
Thanks
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April 12, 2018, 09:19:22 PM
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So 825 h/sec on monero earns about as much as 29 mh/sec on eth, but monero draws 3/4 the power.  Monero seems like a no brainer for Polaris.

RX 580 is around 98 watts for 29.5mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 895mv.

RX 580 is around 122 watts for 30.0mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 950mv.

RX 480 can get a much lower power draw with undervolting, than the RX 580.

You would be wrong about the power draws for Ethereum.

Maybe you have some exceptional silicon?  Most of the numbers I've seen on these boards are closer to 120W at the wall for rx580, i.e.  about 750W for an ordinary 6-card rig.  Seen plenty of people pulling 800-900 watts, probably bc they're not undervolting enough.  My 580s are undervolted to around 850-860 and they pull about 115-120 from the wall while doing 29-29.5 on eth.  They only pull about 90W on monero while doing 825-850 h/sec.

In any event, even if the magnitude is off, what matters is the relative power draw between eth and xmr.  Even if the 580 is 98W for 29.5 mh/sec, xmr is better to mine at 75W for 850 h/sec.

RX 580 8GB review at 950mv undervolt - 121.8 watts for 30.05mhs

https://cryptoyeti.com/msi-rx580-armor-8g-review-and-bios-mod-guide/3/

Use, HWINFO to verify that you GPUs are accepting those undervolts.

https://www.hwinfo.com/

Because on RX Vega 56 - you cannot set an undervolt below 900mv via Adrenalin drivers.


I've confirmed that the undervolts are being accepted.

I find 659W for a 5-card rig doing 150 MH/sec believable.  I get 174 MH/sec for about 750W.

My point is that the same 5-card rig would probably do at least 4,250 h/sec on monero and pull only about 500W.

The value of the eth mined is about the same as the value of the xmr mined.

I find 98W a bit hard to believe.  I know some well optimized/tuned 470/480 rigs with good silicon can achieve something close to this, but I'm skeptical it can be done with a 580.  Maybe a freak card here or there.

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April 12, 2018, 10:37:58 PM
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anyone else noticed that fanmin does not work anymore with 11.6 on linux?

/clay116/ethdcrminer64 -epool $pool:port -ewal $eth_adress -epsw x -mode 1 -dbg -1 -wd 0 -fanmin 60

Works correct wit claymore 10.6 i came from before update. on 11.6 it has no effect
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April 12, 2018, 10:51:52 PM
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Was trying XVG on blake2s with 6 x 1080ti's in Dual with ETH.   Can anyone please confirm an average hashrate for blake2s on XVG with this setup.   I'm seeing about 330 MH/s per 1080ti.   Does that sound right?

Thanks in advance
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April 12, 2018, 11:14:10 PM
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So 825 h/sec on monero earns about as much as 29 mh/sec on eth, but monero draws 3/4 the power.  Monero seems like a no brainer for Polaris.

RX 580 is around 98 watts for 29.5mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 895mv.

RX 580 is around 122 watts for 30.0mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 950mv.

RX 480 can get a much lower power draw with undervolting, than the RX 580.

You would be wrong about the power draws for Ethereum.

Maybe you have some exceptional silicon?  Most of the numbers I've seen on these boards are closer to 120W at the wall for rx580, i.e.  about 750W for an ordinary 6-card rig.  Seen plenty of people pulling 800-900 watts, probably bc they're not undervolting enough.  My 580s are undervolted to around 850-860 and they pull about 115-120 from the wall while doing 29-29.5 on eth.  They only pull about 90W on monero while doing 825-850 h/sec.

In any event, even if the magnitude is off, what matters is the relative power draw between eth and xmr.  Even if the 580 is 98W for 29.5 mh/sec, xmr is better to mine at 75W for 850 h/sec.

RX 580 8GB review at 950mv undervolt - 121.8 watts for 30.05mhs

https://cryptoyeti.com/msi-rx580-armor-8g-review-and-bios-mod-guide/3/

Use, HWINFO to verify that you GPUs are accepting those undervolts.

https://www.hwinfo.com/

Because on RX Vega 56 - you cannot set an undervolt below 900mv via Adrenalin drivers.


I've confirmed that the undervolts are being accepted.

I find 659W for a 5-card rig doing 150 MH/sec believable.  I get 174 MH/sec for about 750W.

My point is that the same 5-card rig would probably do at least 4,250 h/sec on monero and pull only about 500W.

The value of the eth mined is about the same as the value of the xmr mined.

I find 98W a bit hard to believe.  I know some well optimized/tuned 470/480 rigs with good silicon can achieve something close to this, but I'm skeptical it can be done with a 580.  Maybe a freak card here or there.



Well,

That is one opinion, the record claimed by a Bitcointalk forum member is 29.3mhs for 77.5watts (Apneal) using Sapphire Nitro+ RX580 Limited Edition.

Check out his thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1881008.0

He has a graph of his results, with GPU core voltages, memory voltages, memory strap used, GPU speeds and memory speeds.






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April 12, 2018, 11:23:01 PM
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So 825 h/sec on monero earns about as much as 29 mh/sec on eth, but monero draws 3/4 the power.  Monero seems like a no brainer for Polaris.

RX 580 is around 98 watts for 29.5mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 895mv.

RX 580 is around 122 watts for 30.0mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 950mv.

RX 480 can get a much lower power draw with undervolting, than the RX 580.

You would be wrong about the power draws for Ethereum.

Maybe you have some exceptional silicon?  Most of the numbers I've seen on these boards are closer to 120W at the wall for rx580, i.e.  about 750W for an ordinary 6-card rig.  Seen plenty of people pulling 800-900 watts, probably bc they're not undervolting enough.  My 580s are undervolted to around 850-860 and they pull about 115-120 from the wall while doing 29-29.5 on eth.  They only pull about 90W on monero while doing 825-850 h/sec.

In any event, even if the magnitude is off, what matters is the relative power draw between eth and xmr.  Even if the 580 is 98W for 29.5 mh/sec, xmr is better to mine at 75W for 850 h/sec.

RX 580 8GB review at 950mv undervolt - 121.8 watts for 30.05mhs

https://cryptoyeti.com/msi-rx580-armor-8g-review-and-bios-mod-guide/3/

Use, HWINFO to verify that you GPUs are accepting those undervolts.

https://www.hwinfo.com/

Because on RX Vega 56 - you cannot set an undervolt below 900mv via Adrenalin drivers.


I've confirmed that the undervolts are being accepted.

I find 659W for a 5-card rig doing 150 MH/sec believable.  I get 174 MH/sec for about 750W.

My point is that the same 5-card rig would probably do at least 4,250 h/sec on monero and pull only about 500W.

The value of the eth mined is about the same as the value of the xmr mined.

I find 98W a bit hard to believe.  I know some well optimized/tuned 470/480 rigs with good silicon can achieve something close to this, but I'm skeptical it can be done with a 580.  Maybe a freak card here or there.



Well,

That is one opinion, the record claimed by a Bitcointalk forum member is 29.3mhs for 77.5watts (Apneal) using Sapphire Nitro+ RX580 Limited Edition.

Check out his thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1881008.0

As a tip: the key is to lower the memory voltage and the GPU speed down.

He has a graph of his results, with GPU core voltages, memory voltages, memory strap used, GPU speeds and memory speeds.




Umm, that 77.5 number is the chip power, and not from the wall.  Total power is roughly two parts chip and 1 part VRM.  That's at least 115W consumed by the card.  Depending on efficiency of the PSU used, that's 120-130 watts from the wall, which is about right from my experience.
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April 12, 2018, 11:57:00 PM
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So 825 h/sec on monero earns about as much as 29 mh/sec on eth, but monero draws 3/4 the power.  Monero seems like a no brainer for Polaris.

RX 580 is around 98 watts for 29.5mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 895mv.

RX 580 is around 122 watts for 30.0mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 950mv.

RX 480 can get a much lower power draw with undervolting, than the RX 580.

You would be wrong about the power draws for Ethereum.

Maybe you have some exceptional silicon?  Most of the numbers I've seen on these boards are closer to 120W at the wall for rx580, i.e.  about 750W for an ordinary 6-card rig.  Seen plenty of people pulling 800-900 watts, probably bc they're not undervolting enough.  My 580s are undervolted to around 850-860 and they pull about 115-120 from the wall while doing 29-29.5 on eth.  They only pull about 90W on monero while doing 825-850 h/sec.

In any event, even if the magnitude is off, what matters is the relative power draw between eth and xmr.  Even if the 580 is 98W for 29.5 mh/sec, xmr is better to mine at 75W for 850 h/sec.

RX 580 8GB review at 950mv undervolt - 121.8 watts for 30.05mhs

https://cryptoyeti.com/msi-rx580-armor-8g-review-and-bios-mod-guide/3/

Use, HWINFO to verify that you GPUs are accepting those undervolts.

https://www.hwinfo.com/

Because on RX Vega 56 - you cannot set an undervolt below 900mv via Adrenalin drivers.


I've confirmed that the undervolts are being accepted.

I find 659W for a 5-card rig doing 150 MH/sec believable.  I get 174 MH/sec for about 750W.

My point is that the same 5-card rig would probably do at least 4,250 h/sec on monero and pull only about 500W.

The value of the eth mined is about the same as the value of the xmr mined.

I find 98W a bit hard to believe.  I know some well optimized/tuned 470/480 rigs with good silicon can achieve something close to this, but I'm skeptical it can be done with a 580.  Maybe a freak card here or there.



Well,

That is one opinion, the record claimed by a Bitcointalk forum member is 29.3mhs for 77.5watts (Apneal) using Sapphire Nitro+ RX580 Limited Edition.

Check out his thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1881008.0

As a tip: the key is to lower the memory voltage and the GPU speed down.

He has a graph of his results, with GPU core voltages, memory voltages, memory strap used, GPU speeds and memory speeds.




Umm, that 77.5 number is the chip power, and not from the wall.  Total power is roughly two parts chip and 1 part VRM.  That's at least 115W consumed by the card.  Depending on efficiency of the PSU used, that's 120-130 watts from the wall, which is about right from my experience.

Just add on 25watts to his figures.

Za1n, on that ANN is saying he is doing, 102watts at 30mhs (down from 108watts after tinkering) with 92% efficient power supply measured at the wall.

And, 120/125 watts in dualmining Ethereum and Decred.

And, as Kilo7 says on that ANN: there are lots of RX 480 sub-100watt roms available for just mining Ethereum.
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April 13, 2018, 02:59:51 AM
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With the 3gb cards becoming more difficult to use I'm getting more nervous about my R7 370 4gb cards. There seems to be an issue where Claymore detects them as 3072mb on start. I've had no problems mining lately with them. But I'm getting nervous that I might.

Is the 3gb card issue because of the way Windows allocates some overhead to the memory? If so, given Windows is detecting them fine as 4gb (GPU says so) then any over head + DAG still fits within the 4gb happily that they are running fine.

Or is it more complex that than?
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April 13, 2018, 04:04:29 AM
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What driver version is the most compatible with this 11.6 claymore.. Any suggestion, and anyone has to try the latest amd driver is this compatible with 11.6? how about the hashing power? Thanks guy I hope i can get some help from you..
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April 13, 2018, 07:43:04 AM
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With the 3gb cards becoming more difficult to use I'm getting more nervous about my R7 370 4gb cards. There seems to be an issue where Claymore detects them as 3072mb on start. I've had no problems mining lately with them. But I'm getting nervous that I might.

Is the 3gb card issue because of the way Windows allocates some overhead to the memory? If so, given Windows is detecting them fine as 4gb (GPU says so) then any over head + DAG still fits within the 4gb happily that they are running fine.

Or is it more complex that than?

I would not worry about what the reported memory size is if it's working OK.

A strange thing happened when I was checking Claymore's reporting of card memory size. I ran v11.5 on a 'R9 270x 4GB' and it reported 4096 MB stopped the run, then ran it on v11.6 and it reported 3072 MB stopped the run, then ran again on v11.5 and this time it reported 3072 MB. But.. after a few minutes not mining and running v11.5 again it reported 4096 MB..odd ?
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How to single mine using ethermine pool?

(Maybe this command? EthDcrMiner64.exe --epool ssl://us1.ethermine.org:5555 -esm 1 -ewal WALLET.Rigg1 - epsw x)
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How to single mine using ethermine pool?

here you can solo mine ETH, https://www.ethpool.org/ , & good luck, cause you will need a lot of luck  Wink

If you don't believe it or don't get it, I don't have the time to try to convince you, sorry.
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How to single mine using ethermine pool?

here you can solo mine ETH, https://www.ethpool.org/ , & good luck, cause you will need a lot of luck  Wink

Why I need good luck? Smiley
I just need the command line to start mining. I have moved from single mining on NH and moving on to ethermine.
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How to single mine using ethermine pool?

here you can solo mine ETH, https://www.ethpool.org/ , & good luck, cause you will need a lot of luck  Wink

Why I need good luck? Smiley
I just need the command line to start mining. I have moved from single mining on NH and moving on to ethermine.

sorry, I taught that you want mine solo, you mean not dual, but single mine?  Cheesy so I misunderstood You, sorry  Cheesy

If you don't believe it or don't get it, I don't have the time to try to convince you, sorry.
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So 825 h/sec on monero earns about as much as 29 mh/sec on eth, but monero draws 3/4 the power.  Monero seems like a no brainer for Polaris.

RX 580 is around 98 watts for 29.5mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 895mv.

RX 580 is around 122 watts for 30.0mhs on Ethereum with an undervolt to around 950mv.

RX 480 can get a much lower power draw with undervolting, than the RX 580.

You would be wrong about the power draws for Ethereum.

Maybe you have some exceptional silicon?  Most of the numbers I've seen on these boards are closer to 120W at the wall for rx580, i.e.  about 750W for an ordinary 6-card rig.  Seen plenty of people pulling 800-900 watts, probably bc they're not undervolting enough.  My 580s are undervolted to around 850-860 and they pull about 115-120 from the wall while doing 29-29.5 on eth.  They only pull about 90W on monero while doing 825-850 h/sec.

In any event, even if the magnitude is off, what matters is the relative power draw between eth and xmr.  Even if the 580 is 98W for 29.5 mh/sec, xmr is better to mine at 75W for 850 h/sec.

RX 580 8GB review at 950mv undervolt - 121.8 watts for 30.05mhs

https://cryptoyeti.com/msi-rx580-armor-8g-review-and-bios-mod-guide/3/

Use, HWINFO to verify that you GPUs are accepting those undervolts.

https://www.hwinfo.com/

Because on RX Vega 56 - you cannot set an undervolt below 900mv via Adrenalin drivers.


I've confirmed that the undervolts are being accepted.

I find 659W for a 5-card rig doing 150 MH/sec believable.  I get 174 MH/sec for about 750W.

My point is that the same 5-card rig would probably do at least 4,250 h/sec on monero and pull only about 500W.

The value of the eth mined is about the same as the value of the xmr mined.

I find 98W a bit hard to believe.  I know some well optimized/tuned 470/480 rigs with good silicon can achieve something close to this, but I'm skeptical it can be done with a 580.  Maybe a freak card here or there.



Well,

That is one opinion, the record claimed by a Bitcointalk forum member is 29.3mhs for 77.5watts (Apneal) using Sapphire Nitro+ RX580 Limited Edition.

Check out his thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1881008.0

As a tip: the key is to lower the memory voltage and the GPU speed down.

He has a graph of his results, with GPU core voltages, memory voltages, memory strap used, GPU speeds and memory speeds.




Umm, that 77.5 number is the chip power, and not from the wall.  Total power is roughly two parts chip and 1 part VRM.  That's at least 115W consumed by the card.  Depending on efficiency of the PSU used, that's 120-130 watts from the wall, which is about right from my experience.

Just add on 25watts to his figures.

Za1n, on that ANN is saying he is doing, 102watts at 30mhs (down from 108watts after tinkering) with 92% efficient power supply measured at the wall.

And, 120/125 watts in dualmining Ethereum and Decred.

And, as Kilo7 says on that ANN: there are lots of RX 480 sub-100watt roms available for just mining Ethereum.

That 108 (later 102) is the power consumed by the card, not at the wall.  His 6-card rig pulls 760 from the wall, mine did 750.

760 from the wall means his cards are pulling about 120 each from the wall.  Again, that's about right.
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Anyone know what that means?

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15:18:37:901    bcfe7700    gpu #0 dt 58.9 (31%, bad)
15:18:37:901    bcfe7700    gpu #1 dt 73.9 (39%, bad)
15:18:37:901    bcfe7700    gpu #2 dt 55.9 (29%, ok)
15:18:37:901    bcfe7700    gpu #3 dt 88.9 (47%, bad)
15:18:37:901    bcfe7700    gpu #4 dt 61.5 (65%, bad)
15:18:37:901    bcfe7700    gpu #5 dt 61.5 (65%, bad)
15:18:37:901    bcfe7700    gpu #6 dt 69.10 (36%, bad)
15:18:37:902    bcfe7700    gpu #7 dt 107.5 (114%, bad)
15:18:37:902    bcfe7700    gpu #8 dt 107.10 (54%, bad)
15:18:37:902    bcfe7700    gpu #9 dt 82.10 (43%, bad)
15:18:37:902    bcfe7700    gpu #10 dt 80.10 (41%, bad)
15:18:37:902    bcfe7700    gpu #11 dt 85.7 (59%, bad)
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