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November 05, 2013, 12:23:36 PM
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If i order today, can anyone tell me if I really have a chance to get a miner in November as it shows on the website ?? What about ROI ? Thx
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November 05, 2013, 12:24:12 PM
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Bugfix update to 3.7.1. Same download location.

Awesome, thanks!

I'm trying sticking with 0.96 with the latest cgminer binary and it seems to be going ok!

What bus were fixed btw?

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November 05, 2013, 12:29:54 PM
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If i order today, can anyone tell me if I really have a chance to get a miner in November as it shows on the website ?? What about ROI ? Thx

Afaik you will get your miner in Nov but the latter you order it the later you get it.

As for ROI its unlikely, but not impossible.  It depends alot on how much hardware KNC releases before the end of the year +  bitfury + BFL. Everyone else with 400Ghs+ products seems to be delayed till Dec/Jan

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November 05, 2013, 12:32:34 PM
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Why cgminer 3.7.1 does not run for me
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November 05, 2013, 12:37:01 PM
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If i order today, can anyone tell me if I really have a chance to get a miner in November as it shows on the website ?? What about ROI ? Thx

Afaik you will get your miner in Nov but the latter you order it the later you get it.

As for ROI its unlikely, but not impossible.  It depends alot on how much hardware KNC releases before the end of the year +  bitfury + BFL. Everyone else with 400Ghs+ products seems to be delayed till Dec/Jan

From what I have read, it looks like KNC aren't going to be shipping any products in December. I would hazard a guess that if you ordered today you'll get your miner WC 25/11/2013

O'rama, do you know if production has already begun on November's batch? Would be great if everything was ready to ship!

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November 05, 2013, 12:41:09 PM
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8. I never click on reboot, just shut down the miner, wait a minute


do you mean just executing reboot cmd?

when u click reboot on the web interface reboot.safe will be executed instead

Code:
#!/bin/sh
i2cset -y 1 0x24 0xb 0x6b
i2cset -y 1 0x24 0x16 0
reboot

i really don't know which kind of settings i2cset cmds are performing, but my gut says that they should be useful, what do you think?


Yes I would have thought if you don't reboot after the firmware upgrade then the firmware isn't actually installed, yes maybe cgminer gets updated but nothing else.

Sorry guys but I'm not a linux expert....

There's a link after the upgrade proces "click to reboot"

I've tried it a few times but I'm alwas had bad hasrates. So after the upgrade I don't click it just shut down the power then turn it back on...

Exactly, so effectively as you are not running the proper reboot command it might not be updating the firmware, probably a good thing in your case, you are just getting the updated miner.

Hmm.. I think I might try it Smiley

But if I check the update page it shows the correct FW. So what the heck?

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November 05, 2013, 12:43:26 PM
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From what I know of them, unless they have a component shortage they will be using this time to build the November batch. I expect they want to minimise the issues they had in the first run.

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November 05, 2013, 12:57:03 PM
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From what I know of them, unless they have a component shortage they will be using this time to build the November batch. I expect they want to minimise the issues they had in the first run.

has anyone here from the first batch ordered any additional units from the nov batch?

if so, how many units/model was your first batch order, and how many new november units/model did you add, and when did you add those orders?

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November 05, 2013, 12:57:29 PM
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But if I check the update page it shows the correct FW. So what the heck?


please understand I could be wrong, I'm not working or programing for KNC so it's partly guesswork on my part.

The version is probably just a variable stored in the Web code.

Think about it if the link you get after upgrading the firmware isn't run, the way these rigs are setup is to reset alt of stuff on reboot. So the firmware update code that needs to be run against the system doesn't get run because you are using a different reboot method that doesn't run the commands before rebooting.

However the bits of the update that don't require a reboot are copied over such as cgminer etc si they work fine.

Your symptoms of worse performance when rebooting using the link are similar to mine. Always worse performance. So I kept going back to 0.96.

But now im using the old firmware but the new cgminer and I am not getting the performance loss.

So there must be a lot more being changed when you change the firmware than just updating the cgminer instance, and alot of those changes will be related to what happens when you click on the reboot link after you update the firmware.


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November 05, 2013, 01:28:32 PM
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Why cgminer 3.7.1 does not run for me
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Dud binary, my bad, reuploading...

EDIT: Re-uploaded as v3.7.2

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November 05, 2013, 01:56:58 PM
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But if I check the update page it shows the correct FW. So what the heck?


please understand I could be wrong, I'm not working or programing for KNC so it's partly guesswork on my part.

The version is probably just a variable stored in the Web code.

Think about it if the link you get after upgrading the firmware isn't run, the way these rigs are setup is to reset alt of stuff on reboot. So the firmware update code that needs to be run against the system doesn't get run because you are using a different reboot method that doesn't run the commands before rebooting.

However the bits of the update that don't require a reboot are copied over such as cgminer etc si they work fine.

Your symptoms of worse performance when rebooting using the link are similar to mine. Always worse performance. So I kept going back to 0.96.

But now im using the old firmware but the new cgminer and I am not getting the performance loss.

So there must be a lot more being changed when you change the firmware than just updating the cgminer instance, and alot of those changes will be related to what happens when you click on the reboot link after you update the firmware.



i'll figure it out today. i'll try both and report back if i get any changes

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November 05, 2013, 02:11:14 PM
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ok run fine
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thanks
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November 05, 2013, 02:56:50 PM
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KnCs Mining Address on Eligius (Same Address used to give out compensation)

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1D5FhoiuLMJJ43BCMGidwvbKWfr71g1vH9
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November 05, 2013, 02:58:44 PM
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Anyone know whats going on with the gen 2s? Have they started production yet? Or are they still finishing up shipping gen 1s?
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November 05, 2013, 03:08:15 PM
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KNC is the number 1 contrib to the Elgius pool.
I don't know if i should feel good or bad about it.

Would be nice if they could shut down for a few days , dificulty jump comming. Hashrate of the network already going down for it on bitcoin watch.
Looks like it's going to be 515k

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November 05, 2013, 03:16:46 PM
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KNC is the number 1 contrib to the Elgius pool.
I don't know if i should feel good or bad about it.

Would be nice if they could shut down for a few days , dificulty jump comming. Hashrate of the network already going down for it on bitcoin watch.
Looks like it's going to be 515k

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November 05, 2013, 03:34:59 PM
Last edit: November 05, 2013, 03:54:50 PM by FeedbackLoop
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Anyone know whats going on with the gen 2s? Have they started production yet? Or are they still finishing up shipping gen 1s?

They committed to not ship anything before March 2014 the earliest unless competition would flood the market. Right now competition is looking quite bad so there is no reason for them not to commit to that. Gen 2 would take probably longer than that to release anyway... but there's always lower profit gen 1.

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-24


(Also the later they release gen 2, the easier and the greater incentive for current KNC customers to jump in again but that's just my thinking).
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November 05, 2013, 03:49:42 PM
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news on overclocking?

I want more GHS! Grin
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November 05, 2013, 03:54:55 PM
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If KNC actually had product in hand, ready to be shipped out I would almost give that a though for another Saturn or even a Jupiter, but they really need to lower their prices. Who's going to buy a 400Gh/s machine for $5000?

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November 05, 2013, 03:57:24 PM
Last edit: November 05, 2013, 04:07:34 PM by FeedbackLoop
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If KNC actually had product in hand, ready to be shipped out I would almost give that a though for another Saturn or even a Jupiter, but they really need to lower their prices. Who's going to buy a 400Gh/s machine for $5000?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/In-Hand-KnCMiner-Jupiter-558-GH-S-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner-BTC-Knc-/190954768759?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c75ca8977

And then there's all those people throwing thousands at BFL tea cup warmers instead of miners.
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