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Author Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool  (Read 4381856 times)
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May 09, 2013, 07:33:35 AM
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I'm sorry folks, but I'm going to move to another pool.  There is something very wrong going on here.

Here are some numbers - you do the math...


17939   2013-05-09 07:04:01   0:42:39   5733080   151   0.00000009          235273   25.34090002

Same here .0009 as opposed to .008, factor of 10 down

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EDIT: Just corrected itself,
but
17925 is still showinfg .0000079
17913 to 17917 all showing ~.005 as opposed to my average .008
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May 09, 2013, 07:59:44 AM
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I also thinking of moving... But my primary reason is that I need to monitor what is going on all the time. Even when Slush is present. Now that that nobody is monitoring the pool it is clear that is has real problems that needs to be fixed. I just looked at my backup pool and figure out that my miner did jump there over night. And there was a round that I was all over stratum hosts and even on getwork. And because of that I got really low reword(less then 30%) on blocks 17934 and 17930.

Secondary is that I'm missing 16% of income. No merged mining(NMC, IXC DVC)...
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May 09, 2013, 08:04:05 AM
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Five pages of replys for a death block? Ok ok, go home or work, it's nothing to see here....
Plz open a greath threat about it if all you need, claim to the heaven, insult to the gods, but stop posting more shit here we are full XD
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May 09, 2013, 08:13:20 AM
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#17939 is ok for me, btc reward is totally inline with how much I normally get
#17925 is the only one I had a problem with so far


17939   2013-05-09 07:04:01   0:42:39   5733080   138   0.00059777 <---
17938   2013-05-09 06:21:22   1:14:17   9911155   234   0.00066098

17926   2013-05-08 16:05:44   1:52:00   15071549   376   0.00059199
17925   2013-05-08 14:13:44   1:27:14   11634278   257   0.00000004 <---


(As I said before: guiminer on stratum3)
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May 09, 2013, 12:30:26 PM
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also i am one to get screwed on that block...
17925   2013-05-08 14:13:44   1:27:14   11634278   4758   0.00000118   235160   25.21733124    50 confirmations left

Guys and gals - let's stop complaining about that 17925 block. It's more than abundantly clear that something went wrong (or at least doesn't meet our expectations).

For good or bad - Slush is the only one that can tell what exactly happened and fix it.

And after all - for majority of us the lost amount is rather insignificant - the daily income would be affected by a single-digit percentage. So - let's stop whining about it.

Slush hasn't posted for over a week, so he might be on vacation and therefore won't be able to fix it. If that's the case - we'll have to live with it.

I for one wasn't complaining (I was the first to notice, and yes I want a cookie), but rather pointing out that something had gone wrong.  As a developer myself I assume its of interest to the admin when something doesn't work right since it points out potential issues.  No whining here; my loss was equivalent to about fifty cents.
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May 09, 2013, 01:01:01 PM
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But fluctuations are really wild at times here and we need confidence that the pool rewards are computed correctly and honestly.


This.


I think what happened on this block is just a combination of really bad timing and the reward computation algorithm. But if so maybe an algorithm needs a closer look. After all we don't want a "hop-resistant" algorithm to drive people out of the pool due to loss of confidence.


And this. 


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May 09, 2013, 01:23:31 PM
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besides the afformentioned blocks with issues ( yea, took a while to read 9 pages to catch up.. ) i've noticed since getting a GPU to mine with ( roughly 3.9-4.2Mhash/sec with GUIMiner )
That's not GPU mining speeds its CPU mining speeds. Check your configuration.

CPU mining is basically not worth it you pay more for the electricity unless your getting it for free.

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May 09, 2013, 01:34:44 PM
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Guys, seriously, shut up.

The problem has been reported.  It doesn't need to be reported over and over again.

And the most important point, THIS ISN'T A DEMOCRACY.  Just because a bunch of people want the algorithm changed doesnt mean shit.  Slush will do what he wants to do, and if you don't like it LEAVE.  Don't continually repost the same shit, because it's not going to make any difference at all.

Seriously, the quicker everyone realizes this, the better.

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May 09, 2013, 01:37:57 PM
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Has anyone noticed block 17941 was worth 28.55 coins.

(Sorry if that's too much of a newb thing to post and will upset some people)
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May 09, 2013, 01:44:11 PM
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Guys, seriously, shut up.

The problem has been reported.  It doesn't need to be reported over and over again.

And the most important point, THIS ISN'T A DEMOCRACY.  Just because a bunch of people want the algorithm changed doesnt mean shit.  Slush will do what he wants to do, and if you don't like it LEAVE.  Don't continually repost the same shit, because it's not going to make any difference at all.

Seriously, the quicker everyone realizes this, the better.

Sir, pool of course is not a democracy but forum is. No one speaks in order to harm the pool, on the contrary we all want it to be consistent and thriving. Just trying to help the pool (and so themselves).
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May 09, 2013, 01:49:09 PM
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Has anyone noticed block 17941 was worth 28.55 coins.

(Sorry if that's too much of a newb thing to post and will upset some people)

This is probably due to quite big transactions fees. I Don't know if there is anything else that might make block value larger then 25.
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May 09, 2013, 01:51:46 PM
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Has anyone noticed block 17941 was worth 28.55 coins.

(Sorry if that's too much of a newb thing to post and will upset some people)

This is probably due to quite big transactions fees. I Don't know if there is anything else that might make block value larger then 25.
You are right. Block value is 25+fees.
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May 09, 2013, 01:53:06 PM
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This is probably due to quite big transactions fees. I Don't know if there is anything else that might make block value larger then 25.
Yes, there was a transaction with 3.2 BTC of fees in the block.
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May 09, 2013, 02:05:09 PM
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This is probably due to quite big transactions fees. I Don't know if there is anything else that might make block value larger then 25.
Yes, there was a transaction with 3.2 BTC of fees in the block.

The first block that had a value of 25 btc actually ended up paying out like 38btc.  There were that many fees.  Ask Laughingbear, he's the one that found it (mining on slush).

That is definitely unusual though to have that many fees on a block, they ran 'em up on purpose as a reward to the miner, or pool, who found the 210,000th block.

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May 09, 2013, 02:57:56 PM
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I have problems with this block. It is impossible that I have this reward from these shares:

17925    2013-05-08 14:13:44    1:27:14    11634278    157    0.00000004    235160    25.21733124    confirmed

I think that might be problems with this other block because it is impossible that I have no one shares in about 2 min.

17924    2013-05-08 12:46:30    0:01:55    251435    none    none    235151    25.08370000    confirmed

Can you resolve this?

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May 09, 2013, 03:02:24 PM
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Just to report the same issue on the another block:

# Block                                                 Total shares   Your shares   Your BTC reward  Block #   Block value
17940   2013-05-09 10:07:05   3:03:04      24728547   605                  0.00000000          235285   25.35920001   
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May 09, 2013, 03:05:16 PM
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I have problems with this block. It is impossible that I have this reward from these shares:

17925    2013-05-08 14:13:44    1:27:14    11634278    157    0.00000004    235160    25.21733124    confirmed

No, it's not impossible. You have a low hashrate on a very long round.



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May 09, 2013, 03:06:37 PM
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Man slush is never gonna come back...

(at least i wouldn't if i were him)

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May 09, 2013, 03:13:23 PM
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I have problems with this block. It is impossible that I have this reward from these shares:

17925    2013-05-08 14:13:44    1:27:14    11634278    157    0.00000004    235160    25.21733124    confirmed

I think that might be problems with this other block because it is impossible that I have no one shares in about 2 min.

17924    2013-05-08 12:46:30    0:01:55    251435    none    none    235151    25.08370000    confirmed

Can you resolve this?

17925 rewards are screwed, we know that... you would too if you had even glanced at the preceding 5 pages!

However,
17925 you submitted 157 shares over 5234 seconds = 0.0299 shares per second
17924 lasted 115 seconds meaning you would have submitted 3 shares ... its not beyond the realms of possibility that they were rejected/not counted etc.
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May 09, 2013, 03:16:38 PM
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Man slush is never gonna come back...

(at least i wouldn't if i were him)

Well the other day there were 30 blocks discovered.
30 blocks at 2% = 15 BTC
15 BTC roughly = $1700

$1700 dollars a day would make me sort it out!
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