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May 14, 2018, 03:40:13 PM
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Merit system is a great idea, but what if people get lazy and dont want to assign merits.. after all if you cant demerit, why give out merits which later on can not be taken away even if you became more of a nuisance?   Are senior members required to assign merits?

Merit source is not some permanent post that once elected , you will have the privilege for years. If they do not assign merits or are inactive, their posts may be transferred to other active senior members. I will never doubt the intentions of admin of this forum though lack of time might be a problem for him while handling this.

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May 14, 2018, 05:54:59 PM
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I do not understand a bit, explain to me! For example, I have the rank of Member(have 10merit) and I want to  1Merit, but I can not do it, because I do not have to sMerit. How can I be in that case, where do I get it?

I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what you are asking, but maybe I somehow understand, I hope the answer lies in what follows:
In the beginning, sMerit (the one that you send to others) was distributed to users depending on their rank and activity, there also are merit sources who receive sMerit regularly, and finally, for each 2 Merits that are added to your Merit (received from others) you get 1 sMerit (to send).
For now, you have 1 Merit, to become a Member you need 10, let's assume you get them (users give them to you by clicking on +Merit on your posts), you will also get 5 sMerits that you can send to other users.
Thanks for the detailed explanation! I understand it. If I am for example MEMBER and I gave out my 5 sMerit, then I will not have more Merit until I get 2 merit from someone, right?
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May 14, 2018, 06:00:39 PM
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You will not have sMerit, not merit. For second question, yes, you will not have sMerit until someone decided to give you a total of 2 merits thus making you have 1 sMerits.

Merit will not decreased, only sMerit is decreased after you send some to other members.

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May 14, 2018, 06:24:39 PM
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You will not have sMerit, not merit. For second question, yes, you will not have sMerit until someone decided to give you a total of 2 merits thus making you have 1 sMerits.

Merit will not decreased, only sMerit is decreased after you send some to other members.
Yes, thanks for the answer! Then I have another question. The forum administration does not distribute at certain times to participants with higher ranks of merit so that they share with those who deserve them?
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May 14, 2018, 07:09:35 PM
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The forum administration does not distribute at certain times to participants with higher ranks of merit so that they share with those who deserve them?

No there is no distribution for every high ranks/merit users. However, there is some selected users called sources (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources), their number for the moment is 79, who generate 17750 sMerit every month and distribute it to other users.
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May 14, 2018, 07:29:45 PM
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I’m new here and I don’t know the old system, so I have to arrange with the new Merit System. Maybe it’s a positive aspect, that I don’t know the old one, we’ll see. I’ve signed up some weeks ago, at first I’ve only read here, to get an overview about this forum.
I think it’s very important to inform yourself first and avoid beginner's mistakes so it’s possible to save money by reading first, how things are working and after confirming this you can start. By doing this you will save yourself a lot of trouble.

About the Merit System: I’ve read a lot about it and at first I thougt, I came in here the wrong moment. But after reading more about it I don’t think so, because it’s necessary to divide shitposters from quality posters, so the quality of posts will rise and spammers will have no chance of farming accounts to scam others.

So yes, it is more difficult now, to rank up, but if you do your homework and write good posts the merit will come itself. Don’t force it, that won’t work. Share your opinion in a friendly way, try to help others and avoid ennoying one-liners, then you’ll be able to get your Merit step by step.

This Merit System is still new and maybe it is necessary to be modified slightly, like creating more sMerits, because the circulating sMerits are decreasing since start in January, or it will take a time to get more Merit-Sources, but the basics of the new system are succeded.

I’ll take my chance to write some good posts and share my experience about what I found out so far in an article very soon. There I’m planning to present my idea and some advice how you can write quality posts – even if you are a Newbie like me at the time when I write this. Smiley

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May 17, 2018, 10:09:07 PM
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Hi guys, do you plan to change things about the current system ? because i think there is a lot of things to change to keep this good idea alive.
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May 17, 2018, 11:07:56 PM
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Hi guys, do you plan to change things about the current system ? because i think there is a lot of things to change to keep this good idea alive.
Let's present which changes that you think necessary, my friend.
Please give us more details to discuss. Merit system should be adjusted somehow, hence you can show us your ideas as detailed as possible.

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May 18, 2018, 07:00:19 AM
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that mean so hard to be full member account.  Embarrassed
Stop this, please.
You will never be ranked up to Member rank if you keep such negative approach.
Your thread contributed nothing to the topic, which will let you down (not receive merit point at any odds).
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May 18, 2018, 07:43:16 AM
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that mean so hard to be full member account.  Embarrassed
Stop this, please.
You will never be ranked up to Member rank if you keep such negative approach.
Your thread contributed nothing to the topic, which will let you down (not receive merit point at any odds).
Please respect the words of everyone. Any dissenting opinion can be a useful contribution to building a good forum.

Are you seriously asking someone to respect your shitpost?

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May 18, 2018, 08:09:50 AM
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with you that infomation are old or dont neccessary , but that are neccessary for me, i just said what i think. And you dont like that, okay fun, i was delete. i just know i will never call other peoples post are ***post.

That's also a shitpost because it doesn't make any sense in English. Please stick to your local board until you have improved enough to write a coherent sentence.

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May 18, 2018, 09:21:52 AM
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I'm all new here. How is ACTIVITY calculated?

1 post 1 activity, maximum you can get 1 activity a day and the total acrivity is updated every two weeks, in Wednesday. Read the first message in this thread, now there merits as well involved in the equation.

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May 18, 2018, 10:01:19 PM
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1 post 1 activity, maximum you can get 1 activity a day and the total acrivity is updated every two weeks, in Wednesday. Read the first message in this thread, now there merits as well involved in the equation.
thanks for the explanation I am new here and still have to learn to contribute to this forum Smiley

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May 19, 2018, 11:21:22 AM
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I'm all new here. How is ACTIVITY calculated?
in the current situation forum needs not in activity newcomers, and in deserved activity. when you write a little, but nice and good, with a large amount of information necessary to the participants of the forum.

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May 19, 2018, 12:03:57 PM
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I'm all new here. How is ACTIVITY calculated?

Here you can find a little bit more detailed information too, might help:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.0

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May 20, 2018, 03:11:47 PM
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weekly update





weekly transactions avaiable here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11k6HnP_67t4R9k_Xp4vNImy6eCcq3JWlxT1jl1GQdeI/edit?usp=sharing

For the 1st time we have 0 transaction of 50 sMerit. Also we are going slowly to my prediction of 3.5k sMerit/week

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May 20, 2018, 10:11:28 PM
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weekly update





weekly transactions avaiable here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11k6HnP_67t4R9k_Xp4vNImy6eCcq3JWlxT1jl1GQdeI/edit?usp=sharing

For the 1st time we have 0 transaction of 50 sMerit. Also we are going slowly to my prediction of 3.5k sMerit/week


I would think that theymos would be able to intervene in the merit system in such a way to perhaps cause some smerit spending incentives, at least incentives that merit sources are spending a large majority of their merits every 30 days, and therefore, the trend should be able to gravitate towards the supra 5k per week distribution arena, perhaps?

Merit sources in themselves appear to have about 4.6k merits per week to distribute, but there might be several merit sources that are not distributing their source smerits, and perhaps theymos might reconsider their merit source status or at least the quantity of their source, if they are not willing or able to spend their source smerits in 30 days...

The other aspect that could cause the spending of smerits per week to gravitate up (or to stablize), and a bit higher than you suggest, coinlocket$, is that theymos could also decide to increase the quantity of source smerits - which he already suggested was in his tentative plans at the time that he implemented the merit system, even though he might be disinclined to rush into such changes without assessing how what is already is in place is playing out in terms of sources spending their smerits and then the inclinations of merit recipient to spend a portion of their smerits too (including the ongoing reservoir of initially distributed smerits that may still constitute a pretty decent sized number of unspent smerits).

By the way, regarding the initial distribution, there may be some members who have not really learned about the merit system, and I have actually seen some posts from some members who seem to think that a post must be eligible for a nobel prize before they will part with their smerits.. hahahhahha  Perhaps some of the thinking will lighten up a bit regarding what some individuals perceive is required before they send out some of their smerit love.

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May 21, 2018, 01:09:56 AM
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weekly update





weekly transactions avaiable here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11k6HnP_67t4R9k_Xp4vNImy6eCcq3JWlxT1jl1GQdeI/edit?usp=sharing

For the 1st time we have 0 transaction of 50 sMerit. Also we are going slowly to my prediction of 3.5k sMerit/week
This is actually evolving better than I thought, my impression was that in the last 2-3 weeks much less sMerits were distributed as in late April (maybe new merit sources have been activated in sub-forums I don't visit frequently). It seems even having stabilized a bit.

Ideally the sMerit usage should increase again to the levels at the beginning, and then slowly grow. So I agree with JayJuanGee's comment that it would be a good idea to increase source merits.

For another interesting measure: Is a one-click +1 button technically impossible? It seems so obvious that such a feature would increase sMerit distribution that I am surprised to not having seen any discussion about such a feature lately after the two-click script was published. (I however haven't followed the whole thread as it has become a bit long). This, and some merit sources more, in the current situation should be enough to increase the sMerit distribution level to the 7-9K of the first weeks.

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May 21, 2018, 01:51:46 AM
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weekly update





weekly transactions avaiable here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11k6HnP_67t4R9k_Xp4vNImy6eCcq3JWlxT1jl1GQdeI/edit?usp=sharing

For the 1st time we have 0 transaction of 50 sMerit. Also we are going slowly to my prediction of 3.5k sMerit/week


I gave you 1 merit point this is my alt account

My full account is philipma1957

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May 21, 2018, 01:53:31 AM
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weekly transactions avaiable here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11k6HnP_67t4R9k_Xp4vNImy6eCcq3JWlxT1jl1GQdeI/edit?usp=sharing

For the 1st time we have 0 transaction of 50 sMerit. Also we are going slowly to my prediction of 3.5k sMerit/week


I gave you 1 merit point this is my alt account

My full account is philipma1957

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