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January 25, 2019, 02:18:07 PM
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 Required merit is too too much. I have been a "hero member" for a long time now but because of the 500+ merit requirement I can't seem to get anywhere near that level. Its almost impossible to reach to 500+ merit. I think it should be lowered by a lot.
Man, It's easier. You know I have got 259 merits within 4 months and I would get more if I were not red tagged. It's easier, just stay active and be helpful. I will work for everyone.

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January 25, 2019, 02:58:04 PM
Last edit: January 25, 2019, 03:10:46 PM by CryptopreneurBrainboss
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Cheers for replies guys! I'd give you both some merit if I had some to give, lol. No worries about the price hike, I'd rather earn it than pay for it anyway. Happy merit anniversary!

It's the week of merit (anniversary) so was thinking of meriting you +1 but after I went through your post history and notice you have been bumping your announcement thread with almost look alike replies I got discourage although your last reply was average but me meriting it will just be encouraging you to spam more with the privilege of adding image. Clean up your account and only post when necessary not just for bumping and add a little quality to your posts then you'll get one from me.


 Required merit is too too much. I have been a "hero member" for a long time now but because of the 500+ merit requirement I can't seem to get anywhere near that level. Its almost impossible to reach to 500+ merit. I think it should be lowered by a lot.

If you ask me, the jnr and member rank, needs more adjustment the rest are just OK. something like this.

Jnr = 10
Member= 50

I don't mind theymos increasing other ranks too.  Bitcoin is going nowhere anytime soon so is the forum. we'll surely get to those ranks we admire if we post right and have patience. Is better to be slow and sure then to be fast and fall (red tagged)

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January 25, 2019, 03:23:25 PM
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Cheers for replies guys! I'd give you both some merit if I had some to give, lol. No worries about the price hike, I'd rather earn it than pay for it anyway. Happy merit anniversary!

It's the week of merit (anniversary) so was thinking of meriting you +1 but after I went through your post history and notice you have been bumping your announcement thread with almost look alike replies I got discourage although your last reply was average but me meriting it will just be encouraging you to spam more with the privilege of adding image. Clean up your account and only post when necessary not just for bumping and add a little quality to your posts then you'll get one from me.

Thanks for the feedback. We try to post daily on all our channels to stay in touch with our supporters, as we wouldn't want anyone to think we've gone AWOL that's all. We would love to answer more questions, but engagement just hasn't been there recently. We do have a very lively private, invite-only Telegram channel (to avoid spam), where we answer our most loyal followers' questions, which probably results in less questions on public forums.
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January 27, 2019, 12:47:53 PM
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January 27, 2019, 02:17:07 PM
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Sum of last 4 week merit circulation:

3245+4272+5859+6068= 19444.

sMerits quota for 28 days = 20735 *(28/30) = 19352

19444 > 19352

So Ignoring first few month (airdropped merit effect) and spike occurred in September (cause due to Jr. Member 1 Merit requirement). I guess this is the first time when Merit circulated are more than source sMerits.

I guess main reason might be Pharmacist post which caused theymos to increase the quota of active merit sources and addition of few more merit sources.

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January 27, 2019, 02:25:33 PM
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I guess main reason might be Pharmacist post which caused theymos to increase the quota of active merit sources and addition of few more merit sources.
Yeah and other than this, a lot of sMerits were spent after the ANN of DefaultTrust changes because the activity was increased hugely. As a result, other people also shared sMerits.

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January 27, 2019, 02:55:21 PM
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It's good to see a healthy amount of smerits in circulation, sources being much more active in the forum.
It's safe to say we are over the newbie demotion uproar has died down and the system is functioning accurately now. Also activity in the forum is increasing gradually after a drop during the market crash last November.
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January 27, 2019, 03:40:18 PM
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Bear in mind that the Merit Source allowance was resized on the 05/01/2019. I have no idea how many cases were resized, but those that were had their allowance topped-up again on that date with the new quota. That effectively means that the overall aggregate sMerit has been larger than the usual value for a 30 day period (currently set at 20735 sMerit per 30 days).
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January 28, 2019, 03:33:56 PM
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From Senior Member to Hero, 250 merits required, so I agreed that it is a real challenge.
Nevertheless, it is reachable.
Required merit is too too much.
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because of the 500+ merit requirement I can't seem to get anywhere near that level. Its almost impossible to reach to 500+ merit. I think it should be lowered by a lot.

Really?
Your activity has still been 528, so you should be a Hero with old ranking system, without merit system, not too long (2 to 4 weeks ago).
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January 28, 2019, 11:33:42 PM
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 Required merit is too too much. I have been a "hero member" for a long time now but because of the 500+ merit requirement I can't seem to get anywhere near that level. Its almost impossible to reach to 500+ merit. I think it should be lowered by a lot.
Well, you posted not very much since Merit System introduction. I've counted all your posts since January 24, 2018 (around 55 posts, 32 of them in Announcement threads) and I think your received Merit is a very good rate for your number of posts and where you did them.

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January 29, 2019, 02:42:05 AM
Last edit: January 29, 2019, 02:52:53 AM by tranthidung
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I don't agree.
In my analysis on intra-week merits, there is no outlier week occured in first three weeks of 2019!
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In short, my analysis presented there:
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I> Full dataset
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Potential outliers are weeks that have total merits beyond these two threshold
1) Q3 + 1.5*IQR = 6022.5 + 3335.25 = 9357.75 ~ 9358
2) Q1 - 1.5*IQR = 3799 - 3335.25 = 463.75 ~ 464
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Now, let's count how many weeks are outliers:
Code:
.         list merit week if merit >=9358 | merit <=464

     +----------------+
     | merit     week |
     |----------------|
  1. | 30949   2018w4 |
  2. | 19958   2018w5 |
  3. | 13304   2018w6 |
  4. | 11722   2018w7 |
     +----------------+
There are only four outlier weeks, and all of them occured within the first four weeks after the start of merit system.


II> Truncated dataset
Now, I truncated all these four weeks in order to have a truncated dataset, and start identifying potential outliers for the truncated dataset
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Potential outliers:
- IQR = Q3 - Q1 = 1336
- 1.5*IQR = 1336*1.5 = 2004
- Q3 + 1.5*IQR = 5129.5 + 2004 = 7133.5 ~ 7134.
- Q1 - 1.5*IQR = 3793.5 - 2004 = 1789.5 ~ 1790
Potential outliers for truncated dataset are weeks that have total intraweek merits beyond 1790 or 7134.

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Let's see how many outliers identified:
Code:
. list merit week if merit >=7134 | merit <=1790

     +-----------------+
     | merit      week |
     |-----------------|
  1. |  8758    2018w8 |
  2. |  8806    2018w9 |
  3. |  7253   2018w10 |
  4. |  7309   2018w11 |
 31. |  7825   2018w38 |
     +-----------------+
Five weeks in total, and none of them occured in the year 2019.

The week #2018w18 described below:
Code:
. list id merit date dofw day month2 year week month if id >=237 & id < 244

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     |  id   merit        date        dofw   day   month2   year      week    month |
     |------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
237. | 237    1862   17sep2018      Monday    17        9   2018   2018w38   2018m9 |
238. | 238    1294   18sep2018     Tuesday    18        9   2018   2018w38   2018m9 |
239. | 239    1268   19sep2018   Wednesday    19        9   2018   2018w38   2018m9 |
240. | 240     846   20sep2018    Thursday    20        9   2018   2018w38   2018m9 |
241. | 241     807   21sep2018      Friday    21        9   2018   2018w38   2018m9 |
     |------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
242. | 242     944   22sep2018    Saturday    22        9   2018   2018w38   2018m9 |
243. | 243     804   23sep2018      Sunday    23        9   2018   2018w38   2018m9 |
     +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
As we all known, the sudden rises of merits in September mainly come from abusements due to demotion of Junior Members.
For fully analysis, please visit the original post.

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January 29, 2019, 07:33:03 AM
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From Senior Member to Hero, 250 merits required, so I agreed that it is a real challenge.
Nevertheless, it is reachable.

Every rank can be reach with good and constructive posting on any given topic. Think that mostly this is bad for spammers and they quit this cuz they cant spam. This is actually a good thing for the forum less spam.
On this I must say that I tried to look several years in past for many topic here and to see what was the difference on from some point I must say that many members new and old started to write post not just to say few word for something. For this now every rank that requires merit will be challenge for every newcomer here.
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January 29, 2019, 12:37:18 PM
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If you ask me, the jnr and member rank, needs more adjustment the rest are just OK. something like this.

Jnr = 10
Member= 50
If your suggestion become real, we might see a new massive spamming in Meta like we saw in January and February of 2018, but I support your proposal.
Let's see the next adjustment of forum's ranking system.

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January 29, 2019, 01:11:42 PM
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If you ask me, the jnr and member rank, needs more adjustment the rest are just OK. something like this.

Jnr = 10
Member= 50
If your suggestion become real, we might see a new massive spamming in Meta like we saw in January and February of 2018, but I support your proposal.
Let's see the next adjustment of forum's ranking system.

you are so smart that you have 100 merit

which were given to you just like that , with the introduction of merit

I would like to look at you when your merits are reset and how would you then sing with your proposal
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January 29, 2019, 01:18:13 PM
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you are so smart that you have 100 merit

which were given to you just like that , with the introduction of merit
Tranthidung didn't get a single Merit airdropped.

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January 29, 2019, 01:35:03 PM
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I would like to look at you when your merits are reset and how would you then sing with your proposal
You even did not read what is merit and how it functions.
Code:
There is no point in hoarding sMerit; keeping it yourself does not benefit you, and we reserve the right to decay unused sMerit in the future.
Merits are un-decayable (by now, theymos has not had plans to decay merits), so you raised a wrong point!

Furthermore, it simply support the suggestion of CryptopreneurBrainboss. I did not make any proposal, so you were wrong again.
The discussion should be stopped here.

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January 29, 2019, 02:17:28 PM
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I would like to look at you when your merits are reset and how would you then sing with your proposal
You even did not read what is merit and how it functions.
Code:
There is no point in hoarding sMerit; keeping it yourself does not benefit you, and we reserve the right to decay unused sMerit in the future.
Merits are un-decayable (by now, theymos has not had plans to decay merits), so you raised a wrong point!

Furthermore, it simply support the suggestion of CryptopreneurBrainboss. I did not make any proposal, so you were wrong again.
The discussion should be stopped here.

I was wrong to admit my guilt

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my opinion remains the same , I am against such a scenario

I repeat, many received 100 merit without doing anything

If you ask me, the jnr and member rank, needs more adjustment the rest are just OK. something like this.

Jnr = 10
Member= 50

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January 29, 2019, 06:54:32 PM
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Is there still the slightest chance of a new rank, it’s been discussed so many times but I think there are too many Legendary Members at the moment. Some got lucky with the 1000 Merit airdrop who were still Hero Members pre Merit System.

I think an ‘Elite’ rank or ‘Lambo’ member would be awesome achievable by 2000 Activity & 2000 Merit.

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January 29, 2019, 07:20:29 PM
Last edit: January 11, 2024, 09:54:59 PM by OgNasty
 #5799

I think an ‘Elite’ rank or ‘Lambo’ member would be awesome achievable by 2000 Activity & 2000 Merit.

The Lambo Member should be reserved for those who have made the BTC sacrifice for the culture.



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January 29, 2019, 07:22:39 PM
 #5800

Is there still the slightest chance of a new rank, it’s been discussed so many times but I think there are too many Legendary Members at the moment. Some got lucky with the 1000 Merit airdrop who were still Hero Members pre Merit System.

I think an ‘Elite’ rank or ‘Lambo’ member would be awesome achievable by 2000 Activity & 2000 Merit.

Merit is cycled and meaningless according to suchmoon.. that has no relation to post quality nor the users prior achievements here. Rank should not be related to merit in its current state.


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