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November 08, 2021, 02:31:24 PM
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Have you seen Alex Pereira flying knee knockout? This guy has nice technics, but 100% he needs more experience in mix martial arts. He connected a knee, and moved away, like he is used in kickboxing, KO or TKO and the ref sends him to the corner Cheesy He connected, moved away, but then remembered that this is MMA and went to ground and pound Cheesy

Check this how donut Chris Barnett made a spinning wheel kick - https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=927940007927040 hilarious guy Cheesy

It felt like Villante didn’t even train and took the dive to collect his money.  That was his last bout in the UFC as he’s retiring.

Anyway, I can’t figure out how Gaethje vs Chandler went to the decision.  Lol.  It’s pretty impressive how Chandler’s chin held up against those hard blows.  I guess the fight to make if McGregor returns should be vs Chandler...?

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November 08, 2021, 03:08:15 PM
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Kamaru Usman has become a legend in Welterweight category and he is currently best pound-for-pound UFC fighter in the world!
I can't see anyone in that division who can beat him, so it is possible that we will try to fight in different weight category trying to hold title in two categories.
Rose Namajunas deserved this win but this was a war like I expected and I was not surprised with split decision.

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November 08, 2021, 07:40:00 PM
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Kamaru Usman has become a legend in Welterweight category and he is currently best pound-for-pound UFC fighter in the world!
I can't see anyone in that division who can beat him, so it is possible that we will try to fight in different weight category trying to hold title in two categories.
Rose Namajunas deserved this win but this was a war like I expected and I was not surprised with split decision.


Kamaru Usman could surely try a different weight class if he prefers a double Championship belt, he can surely try a shot for the Middleweight division and have a shot for Israel Adesanya if he would dare, but I think Kamaru Usman is more focused on his offense than his defense while Adesanya prefer to fight on a safer way but in my opinion, Israel Adesanya for me is a better striker

And in the welterweight division, I think if given an opportunity for me Khamzat Chimaev but I think a Colby Covington fight is more appropriate for now,

For Rose Namajunas, I think she became more cautious with the fight, The fact that Zhang Weili can anticipate her moves and faints is possible so a safer approach is a better approach.
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November 09, 2021, 05:33:11 AM
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@YuginKadoya. Agreed. Khamzat is presently now included in the top 10 in the rankings of the welterweight division. I speculate that he might be given an opportunity to fight Jorge Masvidal or Leon Edwards before given the opportunity to fight Kamaru.

Frankie Edgar was also leading the fight before he was transformed into a bored ape NFT. I was very disappointed.


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November 09, 2021, 08:26:40 AM
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Kamaru Usman could surely try a different weight class if he prefers a double Championship belt, he can surely try a shot for the Middleweight division and have a shot for Israel Adesanya if he would dare, but I think Kamaru Usman is more focused on his offense than his defense while Adesanya prefer to fight on a safer way but in my opinion, Israel Adesanya for me is a better striker

They are friends. They are both from Nigeria. I doubt that they will agree to fight. They might fight each other just to find who is stronger, but it wont be a title fight. Imagine loosing a title to friend Cheesy

I doubt that Usman could cut enough to fit in lightweight. Cutting 7kg is a lot. And moving to light heavy does not look achievable also. Gain 16kg will be even harder. We all remember how a middleweight Adesanya look little against Blachowicz, how easy it was for Jan to throw Israel and how hard it was for Israel to stand up from parter.

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November 09, 2021, 08:45:11 AM
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Damn @bbc.reporter, I couldn't even recognize him in that pic Grin The man already lost his chin.



UFC Fight night - I wasn't expecting the odds for Holloway (1.14) vs. Rodriguez (5.4). Okay, Max won his last fight back in January which shows he still has it after losing 2 title fights in a row but Rodriguez isn't that bad.

Anyway, I'll wait for the official weigh in before betting. Stats comparison http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/147e984aa34e3028
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November 09, 2021, 12:48:03 PM
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The Last fight UFC 268 was a rollercoaster fun to watch, and I am really thrilled to watch more of that great even, and all we got to do is move on to a new event, I say this next event in my opinion is not really that exciting and for me, the Holloway vs Rodriguez fight is the one that I am anticipating to watch,



UFC Fight Night: Holloway vs. Rodríguez
Date: November 13, 2021
Place: UFC Apex Las Vegas Metropolitan Area, United States

Main Card

Featherweight   Max Holloway   vs.   Yair Rodríguez            
Heavyweight   Ben Rothwell   vs.   Marcos Rogério de Lima            
Women's Featherweight   Felicia Spencer   vs.   Leah Letson            
Bantamweight   Song Yadong   vs.   Julio Arce

Preliminary Card

Lightweight   Thiago Moisés   vs.   Joel Álvarez            
Women's Flyweight   Cynthia Calvillo   vs.   Andrea Lee            
Welterweight   Miguel Baeza   vs.   Khaos Williams            
Featherweight   Sean Woodson   vs.   Collin Anglin            
Women's Flyweight   Cortney Casey   vs.   Liana Jojua            
Lightweight   Marc Diakiese   vs.   Rafael Alves            
Light Heavyweight   Kennedy Nzechukwu   vs.   Da Un Jung

All information was from Wikipedia.

From the top of my head, I like Nzechukwu, Alves, Khaos Williams, Calvillo, Alvarez and matbe Marcos de Lima.  I kinda scanned Best Fight Odds a couple of hours ago and I’m pretty sure they’re all slight underdogs except for Calvillo.  The dogs are barking.

Edit:  Alvarez is 3.10.  I think it’s value.

https://www.bestfightodds.com/#

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November 09, 2021, 02:34:59 PM
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Next card looks alright, nothing too spectacular. I don't think the Max Holloway fight is going to be competitive enough to get excited about. Think Max runs away with the win, and probably gets a finish.

The big fuss over last weekends fights is not the results themselves, but whether Colby got a takedown on Usman. What do you guys think? Based on the rulebooks from several different competitions there's arguments for both ways, I think on the night it was mentioned that is wasn't officially registered as a takedown, and was more of a trip.

I'm undecided on the exact definition. Colby most certainly took him down onto the ground, but only briefly didn't exactly have any prolonged control, since Usman popped up right away. There was also another grappling exchange where technically Colby did put him down, but Usman managed to get on top via rolling.
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November 09, 2021, 02:45:18 PM
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^  You can’t really compare two back to back PPV events with the next one.  And for a ordinary filler event, it’s slightly above average imo.  Other than the main event I think Song Yadong vs Arce, Moises vs Alvarez and Baeza vs Williams will be good...  

We can’t really complain after being spoiled for a couple of weekends.  Grin

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We can’t really complain after being spoiled for a couple of weekends.  Grin

UFC is giving us an opportunity to save money for betting on a bigger event. Or let us doing something else than spending whole weekend on event, reading predictions, news and discussing results Cheesy

Damn, I am trying to clean windows in my flat for nearly a months Cheesy It is starting to get dark early and with dirty windows, I have to switch on the light after 15:00 Cheesy But, I am probably gonna skip that again and re-watch some fight or watch highlight  Cool

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@YuginKadoya. Agreed. Khamzat is presently now included in the top 10 in the rankings of the welterweight division. I speculate that he might be given an opportunity to fight Jorge Masvidal or Leon Edwards before given the opportunity to fight Kamaru.

Frankie Edgar was also leading the fight before he was transformed into a bored ape NFT. I was very disappointed.



Nothing to be disappointed about. Edgar put on a decent fight, comparable to his milage and age, I mean, the guy has been fighting top opponents since 2010, he's clearly over the hill and there is nothing bad about it. He gave his best in the fight but his best is not enough anymore. Time for Frankie to hang 'em up, time to pursue other avenues.

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That odds on Yair Rodriguez to win against Max Holloway looks so juicy that I have to put few sats on him to win, and people quickly forgot how bad Holloway looked in fights with champ Volkanovski.
Rodriguez lost only two fights in his mma carrier against Frankie Edgar and years ago from Roberto Herrera, he is much better fighter now and he won't be so easy to beat.
He has small reach advantage compared to Holloway, and this will be his big shot to get in number one contender spot to fight against Volkanovski.
Holloway was never beaten by a KO so I expect this fight to go long distance.

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Indeed. I bet on Weili Zhang because I thought she was much stronger, with more experience and almost 2 times more wins in the past than Rose Namajunas, and in the beginning it looked like Zhang was going to win the fight, she was very aggressive and pretty successful with some kicks. But Rose has endured, and finally won the fight.

My Verdict on the fight is Rose Namajunas simply is a thug and more skilled than Zhang Weili, no doubt about it, as I said in their previous fight she is more agile and flexible because of her past taekwondo training her kicks despite not so many it is really lethal and accurate, and on their 2nd clash overall, Zhang Weili is more cautious now because of what happened in their 1st fight, but Rose Namajunas still have the edge and advantage over her.
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From this time on I'm betting on this girl, Rose Namajunas, always. Just look what she said about the upcoming fight with  Zhang Weili:

She said that she viewed her fight with Zhang as symbolizing a fight between communism and freedom, saying that "Weili is red" and "represents [communism]", relating it to her family's history under the former USSR regime in Lithuania, and stating that it is "better dead than red".


And she won the fight!

I realize that it's a bit on a stupid side to be betting on a mixed martial artist bearing in mind their political views, but gambling for me is for fun, not for making money, so I think I'll stick with this decision. Smiley

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Yair Rodriguez has never been a 5 to 1 underdog before in his time in the UFC or his whole career considering his skill set.  I know it’s a long lay off but still.  He’s lined at 6.00 at Stake right now but early lines opened at around 3.50.  Seems ridiculous...

Some vids to watch.

UFC Free Fight:  Rodriguez vs Stephens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVCmXHRkHx4

UFC Free Fight:  Holloway vs Kattar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF17C2VKrK4

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Max halloway will be defending his title this upcoming event on Saturday against Kelvin Kattar, I have no doubts after his last fight that he would bring, display, exceptional boxing skills in the octagon ring.
Halloway would be winning for sure.
Rodriguez Vs Stephens will be a display of skill, flexibility, athleticism and most importantly martial arts. It's a tough call, Stephen is a veteran inside the octagon and has the ultimate karate fighting style, however Rodriguez also brings the skills and unexpected kicks as well as he is much younger as compared to Stephens. Don't blink as you might miss a spinning wheel kick.

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Well, the takedown of Usman has officially been ruled as a non takedown, and he still boosts his 100% takedown record. I have to say though, that's a rather fragile record, as it could easily be argued that it was indeed a takedown.

^  You can?t really compare two back to back PPV events with the next one.  And for a ordinary filler event, it?s slightly above average imo.  Other than the main event I think Song Yadong vs Arce, Moises vs Alvarez and Baeza vs Williams will be good... 

We can?t really complain after being spoiled for a couple of weekends.  Grin

Got a banger of an event on the December the 11th too. Poirier vs Oliveria being the headliner, though if I remember off the top of my head correctly, there's a bunch of high profile fighters fighting that night.
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@YuginKadoya. Agreed. Khamzat is presently now included in the top 10 in the rankings of the welterweight division. I speculate that he might be given an opportunity to fight Jorge Masvidal or Leon Edwards before given the opportunity to fight Kamaru.

Frankie Edgar was also leading the fight before he was transformed into a bored ape NFT. I was very disappointed.



Well for me Leon Edwards should be a suited fighter for Khamzat Chimaev to really see his potential if he is worthy of a Kamaru Usman fight, but if he would fight Jorge Masvidal I can see that he can easily manhandle Masvidal, the strength of Chimaev is really that far from Masvidal, and he just carries Li Jingliang like it was nothing,

I have never seen how bad the deformity of Frankie Edgar's face was after that kick from Marlon Vera, but I will keep on supporting Vera, I really have seen his potential from that O'Malley upset.

They are friends. They are both from Nigeria. I doubt that they will agree to fight. They might fight each other just to find who is stronger, but it wont be a title fight. Imagine loosing a title to friend Cheesy

I doubt that Usman could cut enough to fit in lightweight. Cutting 7kg is a lot. And moving to light heavy does not look achievable also. Gain 16kg will be even harder. We all remember how a middleweight Adesanya look little against Blachowicz, how easy it was for Jan to throw Israel and how hard it was for Israel to stand up from parter.

Anything can happen even if they are friends, and as I have said if Kamaru Usman would feel the urge in having two championship belts he could try the middleweight, but as you have said, Kamaru Usman have a friendship bond with Israel Adesanya, so they could respect each other and this is why we might not see something like this, but instead of Izzy could have down his weight to fight on Usman's division, he has decided to go and gain some weight to tri the Lightheavyweight, but it will surely decide on the situation.

From this time on I'm betting on this girl, Rose Namajunas, always. Just look what she said about the upcoming fight with  Zhang Weili:

She said that she viewed her fight with Zhang as symbolizing a fight between communism and freedom, saying that "Weili is red" and "represents [communism]", relating it to her family's history under the former USSR regime in Lithuania, and stating that it is "better dead than red".


And she won the fight!

I realize that it's a bit on a stupid side to be betting on a mixed martial artist bearing in mind their political views, but gambling for me is for fun, not for making money, so I think I'll stick with this decision. Smiley

It is really a good decision for you, to stick on the gambling site and not be affected by other's political views, and if some would view Namajunas as irrational because of what she has said I think we should just respect what she truly believes in, and from that point of view, Weili Zhang didn't attain much from training to a different gym, I never said that Cejudo is not that great of a trainer, but attaining we style or technique will not surely fit the bill, in just a short period of time, and Rose Namajunas just honed herself.
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I was looking at odds and found one more even better crazy bet on Yair Rodriguez to win by decision, that is giving you almost ten times return of your stake!
If you want to go with one sure bet that has some I value I think you can go with fight going to the distance, with nice odds and you have 50-50 chance to win it.

UFC Fight Night 197 Holloway vs Rodriguez media day stream just finsihed, bt you can watch recording or interviews with separate fighters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rHdKlglaWI

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Max halloway will be defending his title this upcoming event on Saturday against Kelvin Kattar, I have no doubts after his last fight that he would bring, display, exceptional boxing skills in the octagon ring.
Halloway would be winning for sure.
Rodriguez Vs Stephens will be a display of skill, flexibility, athleticism and most importantly martial arts. It's a tough call, Stephen is a veteran inside the octagon and has the ultimate karate fighting style, however Rodriguez also brings the skills and unexpected kicks as well as he is much younger as compared to Stephens. Don't blink as you might miss a spinning wheel kick.

You are very lucky this thread is very forgiving to spammers. @nutlidah would be calling you a shitposting intruder in the American football thread hehe.

In any case, there are 2 fighting sex kittens for our viewing pleasure hehehe. Liana Jojua and Andrea Lee. I reckon not very good fighters, however, they are underdogs that can win similar to Thug Rose.




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November 11, 2021, 07:40:55 AM
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I was looking at odds and found one more even better crazy bet on Yair Rodriguez to win by decision, that is giving you almost ten times return of your stake!
If you want to go with one sure bet that has some I value I think you can go with fight going to the distance, with nice odds and you have 50-50 chance to win it.

UFC Fight Night 197 Holloway vs Rodriguez media day stream just finsihed, bt you can watch recording or interviews with separate fighters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rHdKlglaWI

In fact, Yair and Max's fight could go as well. Yair does not have boring fights, his turntables and so on, something with something. But Max can do with him what he did with Kattar, because Yair's stamina is worse, and in his arms, in pure boxing, he is inferior to Max, so I think Max will do with Yair's face as with Kattar

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