ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[LittleBitFunny]

Afghanistan both site were outstanding today match against Sri Lanka. Afghanistan batters done their job 1st innings and bowlers did 2nd innings. It was very good match for Afghanistan. Afghanistan won by 60 runs. It is big win against Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka didn’t do their job as well they were underdressed in that match. Hopefully, they will be come back in very next match cz they have the good team as well.

You are right. Afghanistan's batsmen and bowlers both performed very well. Afghanistan managed to set a big target of 295 due to the excellent performance of the top-order batsmen. On the other hand, Sri Lanka batsmen's performance was very poor. Opener Pathum Nissanka scored 85 runs and Hasaranga de Silva scored 66 runs off 46 balls. Besides, no other batsman in the team can perform well. The pitch was not bowling-friendly. Runs were being collected easily. Even then the Sri Lankan players could not survive at the crease. Fazalhaq Farooqi and Gulabdin Naib bowled brilliantly. Both these bowlers took 7 wickets.

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India again lost his first ODI against New Zealand, no doubt India play really amazing and give a big target for new Zealand to chase, but the way new Zealand play it's phenomenal, after first wicket of f.allen in early overs I taught that India will take a strong grip on new Zealand but the partnership of Williamson and Latham takeaway the match from India hands, Latham play an unbelievable inning by scoring 145 and Williamson score 94 and that's the main point of India loss

This was an unexpected win for New Zealand and i was not expecting that they could chase 306 runs too easily. Do we have to say that New Zealand's batting was outclassed in this match or do Indian again have difficulties with their bowling and are unable to defend a big total 
Umran Malik took 2 wickets but there was no Indian bowler whom we can say tried to contain the New Zealand batsmen. Also not to forget that Tom Latham scored 145 runs in only 104 balls and this is a very good strike rate in a one-day international match. He must be disappointed not to make 150 runs and make history.

Same for me really, Indian bowling was really below par, it felt as if the bowlers of Indian team have become too much familiar to bowling in T20. They were not really focusing on building the pressure and then taking up wickets they were focusing more on individual deliveries which new zealand played very intelligently so technically the strategy played by them was altogether wrong. I think  they will get better after a couple of games.

Indian bowling has lost manpower. We don't see any good performances from Indian bowlers in T20 World Cup. However, they were quite effective against New Zealand in the last T20 matches. But in today's match again we saw their bad bowling. Indian management should now focus more on their bowlers. Otherwise, their performance will be worse in the next matches.

[Vaskiy]

India again lost his first ODI against New Zealand, no doubt India play really amazing and give a big target for new Zealand to chase, but the way new Zealand play it's phenomenal, after first wicket of f.allen in early overs I taught that India will take a strong grip on new Zealand but the partnership of Williamson and Latham takeaway the match from India hands, Latham play an unbelievable inning by scoring 145 and Williamson score 94 and that's the main point of India loss

This was an unexpected win for New Zealand and i was not expecting that they could chase 306 runs too easily. Do we have to say that New Zealand's batting was outclassed in this match or do Indian again have difficulties with their bowling and are unable to defend a big total 
Umran Malik took 2 wickets but there was no Indian bowler whom we can say tried to contain the New Zealand batsmen. Also not to forget that Tom Latham scored 145 runs in only 104 balls and this is a very good strike rate in a one-day international match. He must be disappointed not to make 150 runs and make history.

Same for me really, Indian bowling was really below par, it felt as if the bowlers of Indian team have become too much familiar to bowling in T20. They were not really focusing on building the pressure and then taking up wickets they were focusing more on individual deliveries which new zealand played very intelligently so technically the strategy played by them was altogether wrong. I think  they will get better after a couple of games.

Indian bowling has lost manpower. We don't see any good performances from Indian bowlers in T20 World Cup. However, they were quite effective against New Zealand in the last T20 matches. But in today's match again we saw their bad bowling. Indian management should now focus more on their bowlers. Otherwise, their performance will be worse in the next matches.

There needs to be improvement and consistency with the Indian bowlers. New Zealand lost consecutive wickets, after which they made strong comeback. With a score of 306 and unable to win the match shows the poor bowling. Its time for Indian team to make clear analysis and choose the best as more series are to follow.

[KennyR]

Afghanistan both site were outstanding today match against Sri Lanka. Afghanistan batters done their job 1st innings and bowlers did 2nd innings. It was very good match for Afghanistan. Afghanistan won by 60 runs. It is big win against Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka didn’t do their job as well they were underdressed in that match. Hopefully, they will be come back in very next match cz they have the good team as well.

Really good performance came from the batters and bowlers of Afghanistan. Lost their first wicket at 84 runs and the second wicket at 202 runs. This partnership helped the team make a good target. Zardan made a century and just incredible. To the efforts made by the batsmen, the bowlers gave good support taking wickets. Particularly Farooqi and Naib had a good wicket taking match. From Sri Lanka Nissanka and Hasaranga contributed good.

[MoonOfLife]

India again lost his first ODI against New Zealand, no doubt India play really amazing and give a big target for new Zealand to chase, but the way new Zealand play it's phenomenal, after first wicket of f.allen in early overs I taught that India will take a strong grip on new Zealand but the partnership of Williamson and Latham takeaway the match from India hands, Latham play an unbelievable inning by scoring 145 and Williamson score 94 and that's the main point of India loss

This was an unexpected win for New Zealand and i was not expecting that they could chase 306 runs too easily. Do we have to say that New Zealand's batting was outclassed in this match or do Indian again have difficulties with their bowling and are unable to defend a big total 
Umran Malik took 2 wickets but there was no Indian bowler whom we can say tried to contain the New Zealand batsmen. Also not to forget that Tom Latham scored 145 runs in only 104 balls and this is a very good strike rate in a one-day international match. He must be disappointed not to make 150 runs and make history.

Same for me really, Indian bowling was really below par, it felt as if the bowlers of Indian team have become too much familiar to bowling in T20. They were not really focusing on building the pressure and then taking up wickets they were focusing more on individual deliveries which new zealand played very intelligently so technically the strategy played by them was altogether wrong. I think  they will get better after a couple of games.

Indian bowling has lost manpower. We don't see any good performances from Indian bowlers in T20 World Cup. However, they were quite effective against New Zealand in the last T20 matches. But in today's match again we saw their bad bowling. Indian management should now focus more on their bowlers. Otherwise, their performance will be worse in the next matches.

There needs to be improvement and consistency with the Indian bowlers. New Zealand lost consecutive wickets, after which they made strong comeback. With a score of 306 and unable to win the match shows the poor bowling. Its time for Indian team to make clear analysis and choose the best as more series are to follow.

Every bowler in the Indian team except Washington Sundar gave a lot of runs today. Indian bowlers should have performed more carefully. The batsmen played well enough. It's a shame to lose even with more than 300 targets. I would say India should give new bowlers a chance now. Because the performance of most of the bowlers in the squad has deteriorated.

[JSRAW]

Anyway, India did cross the 300 mark but i think they are still 20-ish runs short here. Won't be easy to defend this total, considering bowling is inexperienced and new. Credit to Kiwis bowlers, they didn't allow Indian batters to free their arms (except Sundar's cameo) despite having wickets in the bank. Their fielding was amazing throughout the first inning, they at least saved 15-20 runs.

You were right, but India needed at least 30 to 40 more runs to win the match. Although they have batted quite well, but we shouldn't expect a big score from the young inexperienced team. As an experienced player, Shikhar Dhawan contributed well with his batting. The debut performance (in ODI) of Arshdeep Singh wasn't good at all. Indian bowlers had created pressure on New Zealand by taking the first 3 wickets, but the partnership of Williamson & Latham was unbeatable.

Well, the Indian team had 2 debutant bowlers (Arshdeep and Umran). 1 dibbly dobbly bowler Lord Thakur and alleged Part timer Sundar who is still learning the Art of off spin. The only established bowler was Chahal but he didn't pick any wickets in the middle overs, which is his strength.

IMO this series is testing ground for new bowlers and batters so i don't mind even if they get whitewashed in this series as far as they learn something. 

[BobK71]

India again lost his first ODI against New Zealand, no doubt India play really amazing and give a big target for new Zealand to chase, but the way new Zealand play it's phenomenal, after first wicket of f.allen in early overs I taught that India will take a strong grip on new Zealand but the partnership of Williamson and Latham takeaway the match from India hands, Latham play an unbelievable inning by scoring 145 and Williamson score 94 and that's the main point of India loss

This was an unexpected win for New Zealand and i was not expecting that they could chase 306 runs too easily. Do we have to say that New Zealand's batting was outclassed in this match or do Indian again have difficulties with their bowling and are unable to defend a big total  
Umran Malik took 2 wickets but there was no Indian bowler whom we can say tried to contain the New Zealand batsmen. Also not to forget that Tom Latham scored 145 runs in only 104 balls and this is a very good strike rate in a one-day international match. He must be disappointed not to make 150 runs and make history.

Same for me really, Indian bowling was really below par, it felt as if the bowlers of Indian team have become too much familiar to bowling in T20. They were not really focusing on building the pressure and then taking up wickets they were focusing more on individual deliveries which new zealand played very intelligently so technically the strategy played by them was altogether wrong. I think  they will get better after a couple of games.

Indian bowling has lost manpower. We don't see any good performances from Indian bowlers in T20 World Cup. However, they were quite effective against New Zealand in the last T20 matches. But in today's match again we saw their bad bowling. Indian management should now focus more on their bowlers. Otherwise, their performance will be worse in the next matches.

There needs to be improvement and consistency with the Indian bowlers. New Zealand lost consecutive wickets, after which they made strong comeback. With a score of 306 and unable to win the match shows the poor bowling. Its time for Indian team to make clear analysis and choose the best as more series are to follow.

Every bowler in the Indian team except Washington Sundar gave a lot of runs today. Indian bowlers should have performed more carefully. The batsmen played well enough. It's a shame to lose even with more than 300 targets. I would say India should give new bowlers a chance now. Because the performance of most of the bowlers in the squad has deteriorated.

New Zealand won the first match against India in ODI series. But here the Indian cricketers are lagging behind. India scored 306 losing 7 wickets but New Zealand lost 3 wickets and got a great win by playing 47 overs. Here it can be said that the major failure of the Indian bowling action. All among the bowlers Washington Sundar is the only one who has given the least runs compared to others. He gave 42 runs in 10 overs. On the other hand Arshdeep Singh bowled just 8.1 overs and gave away 68 runs. Indian bowlers have to do well otherwise there is a high chance of losing the rest of the matches.

[Sithara007]

Well, the Indian team had 2 debutant bowlers (Arshdeep and Umran). 1 dibbly dobbly bowler Lord Thakur and alleged Part timer Sundar who is still learning the Art of off spin. The only established bowler was Chahal but he didn't pick any wickets in the middle overs, which is his strength.

IMO this series is testing ground for new bowlers and batters so i don't mind even if they get whitewashed in this series as far as they learn something.  

Both Arshdeep and Umran went for a few runs, although the latter picked up two wickets to his name. Among the Indian bowlers, only Washington Sundar had an economy rate under 6 runs per over. Indian bowlers were doing pretty well till 35th over or so. Latham and Williamson were scoring very slowly and it looked as if they may end up 30-40 runs short. But then Shardul conceded 25 runs from a single over and New Zealand got upper hand after that. Inexperience of the Indian bowlers made things even worse.

[shawon01]

India again lost his first ODI against New Zealand, no doubt India play really amazing and give a big target for new Zealand to chase, but the way new Zealand play it's phenomenal, after first wicket of f.allen in early overs I taught that India will take a strong grip on new Zealand but the partnership of Williamson and Latham takeaway the match from India hands, Latham play an unbelievable inning by scoring 145 and Williamson score 94 and that's the main point of India loss

This was an unexpected win for New Zealand and i was not expecting that they could chase 306 runs too easily. Do we have to say that New Zealand's batting was outclassed in this match or do Indian again have difficulties with their bowling and are unable to defend a big total 
Umran Malik took 2 wickets but there was no Indian bowler whom we can say tried to contain the New Zealand batsmen. Also not to forget that Tom Latham scored 145 runs in only 104 balls and this is a very good strike rate in a one-day international match. He must be disappointed not to make 150 runs and make history.

Same for me really, Indian bowling was really below par, it felt as if the bowlers of Indian team have become too much familiar to bowling in T20. They were not really focusing on building the pressure and then taking up wickets they were focusing more on individual deliveries which new zealand played very intelligently so technically the strategy played by them was altogether wrong. I think  they will get better after a couple of games.

Indian bowling has lost manpower. We don't see any good performances from Indian bowlers in T20 World Cup. However, they were quite effective against New Zealand in the last T20 matches. But in today's match again we saw their bad bowling. Indian management should now focus more on their bowlers. Otherwise, their performance will be worse in the next matches.

There needs to be improvement and consistency with the Indian bowlers. New Zealand lost consecutive wickets, after which they made strong comeback. With a score of 306 and unable to win the match shows the poor bowling. Its time for Indian team to make clear analysis and choose the best as more series are to follow.

Every bowler in the Indian team except Washington Sundar gave a lot of runs today. Indian bowlers should have performed more carefully. The batsmen played well enough. It's a shame to lose even with more than 300 targets. I would say India should give new bowlers a chance now. Because the performance of most of the bowlers in the squad has deteriorated.

I agree with you. India played a lot of bad games.  I initially thought that India would win this match very easily but later I saw that India lost this match.  I think India's words are responsible for this poison. Because of them, India lost this match. No one imagined that India would lose the match after scoring so many runs. If India had bowled well, India would have won the match.

[Haunebu]

Both Arshdeep and Umran went for a few runs, although the latter picked up two wickets to his name. Among the Indian bowlers, only Washington Sundar had an economy rate under 6 runs per over. Indian bowlers were doing pretty well till 35th over or so. Latham and Williamson were scoring very slowly and it looked as if they may end up 30-40 runs short. But then Shardul conceded 25 runs from a single over and New Zealand got upper hand after that. Inexperience of the Indian bowlers made things even worse.

Arshdeep is a bad bowler and needs to be replaced in all formats while Umran is a decent bowler with a lot of potential who has sparks of Bumrah in him. Sundar is an amazing all-rounder in the ODI and T-20 formats.

India needs more bowlers like Bumrah and Sundar in my opinion. New Zealand outplayed them in the first match, but I still think that the series will end in an Indian win or draw.

[JSRAW]

Arshdeep is a bad bowler and needs to be replaced in all formats while Umran is a decent bowler with a lot of potential who has sparks of Bumrah in him. Sundar is an amazing all-rounder in the ODI and T-20 formats.

India needs more bowlers like Bumrah and Sundar in my opinion. New Zealand outplayed them in the first match, but I still think that the series will end in an Indian win or draw.

Indian cricket is happy to find an effective left-arm seamer (Arshdeep) and you are talking about replacing him 

He bowls tough overs in the T-20 (Death overs), he does his job beautifully and I guess he proved himself in the T-20. I believe for India he's an excellent find and could go long in LOIs. It was his 1st ODI so he'll learn for sure.
 

[rojan]

Thailand Women vs Netherlands Women 4th ODI match between these two teams has started. Netherlands Women won the toss and decided to bat. They scored 135 runs in 40 overs and lost 8 wickets. They have 2 more wickets left in this match.  Netherlands will not be able to score more than 160 runs.  They will not be able to score more runs in this match due to the good batting of their team being out earlier.

[mm2543363580]

Arshdeep is a bad bowler and needs to be replaced in all formats while Umran is a decent bowler with a lot of potential who has sparks of Bumrah in him. Sundar is an amazing all-rounder in the ODI and T-20 formats.

India needs more bowlers like Bumrah and Sundar in my opinion. New Zealand outplayed them in the first match, but I still think that the series will end in an Indian win or draw.

Indian cricket is happy to find an effective left-arm seamer (Arshdeep) and you are talking about replacing him 

He bowls tough overs in the T-20 (Death overs), he does his job beautifully and I guess he proved himself in the T-20. I believe for India he's an excellent find and could go long in LOIs. It was his 1st ODI so he'll learn for sure.
 

Arshdeep has proved himself in the most tough and critical matches in T20WC  and took most important wickets in matches against strongest teams so India had found a good ballers, look at their balling side which is affecting thier outstanding batting lineup.  He will learn to settle in ODI too and prove himself here too.

[ThemePen]

Thailand Women vs Netherlands Women 4th ODI match between these two teams has started. Netherlands Women won the toss and decided to bat. They scored 135 runs in 40 overs and lost 8 wickets. They have 2 more wickets left in this match.  Netherlands will not be able to score more than 160 runs.  They will not be able to score more runs in this match due to the good batting of their team being out earlier.

Yes now the Thailand team won the match.
Netherlands team made 145 runs in 42.5 overs which I think not a big score and played poorly and Thailand team played well and chase the score with in 26.1 overs. And Thailand team only gave 3 wickets to Netherlands team.

[mm2543363580]

USA vs Namibia

Namibia won the toss and choose to field.  USA batsman are definitely struggling infront of Namibian ballers they lost 4 early wickets  and  now USA is on 151 runs 7 outs in 41 overs .
USA if they will retain their wickets can give target of maximum 200 because their run rate is slow and alot of pressure is developed on them by Namibia. 

[SirLancelot]

Well, the Indian team had 2 debutant bowlers (Arshdeep and Umran). 1 dibbly dobbly bowler Lord Thakur and alleged Part timer Sundar who is still learning the Art of off spin. The only established bowler was Chahal but he didn't pick any wickets in the middle overs, which is his strength.

IMO this series is testing ground for new bowlers and batters so i don't mind even if they get whitewashed in this series as far as they learn something.  

Both Arshdeep and Umran went for a few runs, although the latter picked up two wickets to his name. Among the Indian bowlers, only Washington Sundar had an economy rate under 6 runs per over. Indian bowlers were doing pretty well till 35th over or so. Latham and Williamson were scoring very slowly and it looked as if they may end up 30-40 runs short. But then Shardul conceded 25 runs from a single over and New Zealand got upper hand after that. Inexperience of the Indian bowlers made things even worse.

Even here I agreed with all stuff from @JSRAW but still going into difficult conditions like New Zealand with two debutants are never been good idea they need someone who guide them and have some good back up but as mentioning these all are on learning process it's surely going to be whitewashed no issue for the management in early overs they have done good job and take early wickets but as Williamson and Latham set on crease they give good lesson to these youths with their hard hitting specially Latham was on his best with amazing stuff which he has done in this match.

Shardul over was surely match's turning point because I was also feeling as Williamson is on crease helping Indian bowling side but Latham done suddenly amazing stuff and end this match in 48th over which was not even in my book with the target of 307.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Both Arshdeep and Umran went for a few runs, although the latter picked up two wickets to his name. Among the Indian bowlers, only Washington Sundar had an economy rate under 6 runs per over. Indian bowlers were doing pretty well till 35th over or so. Latham and Williamson were scoring very slowly and it looked as if they may end up 30-40 runs short. But then Shardul conceded 25 runs from a single over and New Zealand got upper hand after that. Inexperience of the Indian bowlers made things even worse.

Arshdeep is a bad bowler and needs to be replaced in all formats while Umran is a decent bowler with a lot of potential who has sparks of Bumrah in him. Sundar is an amazing all-rounder in the ODI and T-20 formats.

India needs more bowlers like Bumrah and Sundar in my opinion. New Zealand outplayed them in the first match, but I still think that the series will end in an Indian win or draw.

Arshdeep is someone who was picked for the team because of his swing. But he does not have so much pace. He can bowl at an average of, 129/130 km/h. And once the ball gets older, and there is no huge swing in offer, he basically becomes useless.

Right now, if a fastballer has to have speed in his repertoire. Otherwise, he cannot have success, even though he has swing. Right now most of the balls which are used in cricket are Kookaburra. And we know that Kookaburra balls are not well known for swing.

So, I think India should really think about giving someone else the chance of proving himself, because, unless Arshdeep Singh can increase his pace to at least 140+, I don’t think he’s going to be effective in the long run.

[fuguebtc]

USA vs Namibia

Namibia won the toss and choose to field.  USA batsman are definitely struggling infront of Namibian ballers they lost 4 early wickets  and  now USA is on 151 runs 7 outs in 41 overs .
USA if they will retain their wickets can give target of maximum 200 because their run rate is slow and alot of pressure is developed on them by Namibia. 

The USA set a target of 212 runs. It is difficult to win with such low targets. Even then, if the USA bowlers were able to perform well, they would have won this match. But the performance of USA bowlers today is poor. At the end of 38 overs, Namibia collected 177 runs with the loss of only 3 wickets. Namibia needs just 35 runs from 12 overs to win. . Namibia can easily win today's match.

[Fritwakky]

Both Arshdeep and Umran went for a few runs, although the latter picked up two wickets to his name. Among the Indian bowlers, only Washington Sundar had an economy rate under 6 runs per over. Indian bowlers were doing pretty well till 35th over or so. Latham and Williamson were scoring very slowly and it looked as if they may end up 30-40 runs short. But then Shardul conceded 25 runs from a single over and New Zealand got upper hand after that. Inexperience of the Indian bowlers made things even worse.

Arshdeep is a bad bowler and needs to be replaced in all formats while Umran is a decent bowler with a lot of potential who has sparks of Bumrah in him. Sundar is an amazing all-rounder in the ODI and T-20 formats.

India needs more bowlers like Bumrah and Sundar in my opinion. New Zealand outplayed them in the first match, but I still think that the series will end in an Indian win or draw.

Arshdeep is someone who was picked for the team because of his swing. But he does not have so much pace. He can bowl at an average of, 129/130 km/h. And once the ball gets older, and there is no huge swing in offer, he basically becomes useless.

Right now, if a fastballer has to have speed in his repertoire. Otherwise, he cannot have success, even though he has swing. Right now most of the balls which are used in cricket are Kookaburra. And we know that Kookaburra balls are not well known for swing.

So, I think India should really think about giving someone else the chance of proving himself, because, unless Arshdeep Singh can increase his pace to at least 140+, I don’t think he’s going to be effective in the long run.

In the first match, India lost to New Zealand by a big margin. Kane Williamson and Latham's contribution behind New Zealand's victory. But in the next match, India will look to turn around, maybe by now India have found their team's mistakes and worked on them and are well prepared for the next match. But on the other hand, New Zealand will make every effort to continue their winning streak.

[darewaller]

Arshdeep is a bad bowler and needs to be replaced in all formats while Umran is a decent bowler with a lot of potential who has sparks of Bumrah in him. Sundar is an amazing all-rounder in the ODI and T-20 formats.

India needs more bowlers like Bumrah and Sundar in my opinion. New Zealand outplayed them in the first match, but I still think that the series will end in an Indian win or draw.

Indian cricket is happy to find an effective left-arm seamer (Arshdeep) and you are talking about replacing him 

He bowls tough overs in the T-20 (Death overs), he does his job beautifully and I guess he proved himself in the T-20. I believe for India he's an excellent find and could go long in LOIs. It was his 1st ODI so he'll learn for sure.

Yeah agreed about this as he is young in this game and need some time as he is doing I have feeling he could be one of the best for the Indian team with his line and length you can't expect good results from very early games he was playing his first game of the career and guys need very quick results which is surely not good stuff. I am also feeling he is the good bowler but need good support from few experiences bowlers like Bhuvei and Nehra if they provide him better assistant for his career this could be good for him and his career.

Here in this match I have feeling instead of having Shardul they need to go with Bhuvei which could be much better for the bowling stuff and these two youngsters as well here target if 306 was good but short ground difficult conditions and SENA all gone against them.