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November 15, 2022, 06:51:26 AM
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So the situation is that bad between both cricketing boards or should I say there is no coordination whatsoever.

Do you think if the Nepal Gov or to some extent Cricket Association of Nepal request the Indian Gov or BCCI then they could come up with some sort of consensus?

First of all, the relationship between the two governments is not very warm. KP Sharma (former Nepali Prime Minister) was considered very close to China, and his predecessors are also viewed with a lot of suspicion by the Indian government. And the ordinary Nepalis are angry at the Indian government, veer since the latter imposed a complete blockade of the country after the 2015 earthquake, in which thousands of Nepalis died. India demanded that Nepal give citizenship to migrants from Bihar, which the Nepal government refused. As a result of the blockade, there was an acute shortage of medicine and fuel after the earthquake hit Nepal.

The case with Afghanistan is different. That country is strategically located and is very useful to India in order to counter influence from Pakistan in the central Asian region. And that is the reason why the Indian government is trying hard to make good relations with the Taliban regime now.

Ideally politics should be separate from cricket. But that is not the case always.
I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.

But Yeah, I agree that the blockade was a bad decision, having said that Madhesi parties had genuine concerns regarding the new constitution and the Indian gov (It was mainly due to the bureaucratic system tho) had no other choice but to support them indirectly due to very obvious reasons. Oli looks like more of a meme content to me tbh. Pushpa Dahal on the other hand, oh well.

Despite all this fuckery i firmly believe that the bond between both countries is very deep (minus media) so i really think CAN should definitely approach the BCCI directly.

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I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
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As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

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November 15, 2022, 12:08:40 PM
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I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
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As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms
This is the tragedy that cricket Is completely controlled by politics and their extremist leaders,  similarly Pakistan have always been targeted and left out because of this BCCI and Indian politics.  The world cup next year is planned to be held in pakistan and BCCI jey Shah straightaway rejected that and said India cannot come to Pakistan as matched should be held at neutral venue .
India has alot of political and economic benefits from Afghanistan and that's clear from their behaviour towards Afghanistan, even their players participate in IPL.

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November 15, 2022, 01:06:17 PM
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I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
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As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms
This is the tragedy that cricket Is completely controlled by politics and their extremist leaders,  similarly Pakistan have always been targeted and left out because of this BCCI and Indian politics.  The world cup next year is planned to be held in pakistan and BCCI jey Shah straightaway rejected that and said India cannot come to Pakistan as matched should be held at neutral venue .
India has alot of political and economic benefits from Afghanistan and that's clear from their behaviour towards Afghanistan, even their players participate in IPL.

@YinShuiSiYuan I don’t think that anything will change, because currently BCCI has political people running it directly and indirectly hence I expect zero changes in their policy towards Nepal. Furthermore that statement was definitely bad and abuse of power, and thus I feel that ICC should not shift the tournament because it’ll set a very wrong precedent and it may cripple Pakistan cricket for year’s as all countries will suddenly back out from touring them.
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Nepal has not received much recognition for their cricket compared to Emirates Cricket. Here are some reasons. One is Emirates Cricket got ICC membership in 1990 while Nepal in Asian Cricket in 1994 Under-19 World Cup in 1999 and the ICC Trophy for the first time in 2001. I expect gradually Nepal cricket will improve If they increase their importance in cricket they will definitely be able to do better in future.

Nepal is a team which is 100% comprised of native players. On the other hand, the United Arab Emirates comprises solely of foreign players. Previously they had token Arab players such as Saeed-Al-Saffar and Sultan Zarawani, but now they have stopped including natives. And many of the foreign players are ex-first class cricketers from India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Nepal is finding it very tough to play against such experienced players and therefore they are losing one match after the other. And this again triggers a chain reaction. ICC funding is based on performance. As a result, the funding for Nepal will be decreased and that for the UAE will be increased.
I don't understand why don't Cricket Association of Nepal reach out to BCCI? Not sure about the ground realities of Nepal cricket much, is there any bad blood between them and BCCI in any way?

If not, then both boards could indeed sign some sort of a contract where Nepali players get to play in the Ranji etc. I know many state boards in India will oppose it as they have to look out for their interest as well due to cut-throat competition among states.

But still, they could include some players or maybe allow the Nepali team to compete in Ranji, just like any other team.


Why will they talk to BCCI for help or support? That is something which they will never try to do as BCCI would take the credit if Nepal starts winning tournaments. Nepal is leat bothered about cricket if they want help then they need to talk to ICC. We know ICC doesn't cares about other boards unless money is involved therefore CAN should work on a strategy to revive cricket in the grass root level.

Football is the most preferred sports in Nepal and accusing ICC or BCCI is just like blaming someone for a theft when the home owner is questionable. CAN is full of representatives who have a little or no idea about cricket. You need to check the About page, which states.

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Cricket, the sport that has re-conquered thousands of Nepalese all around the world, was first of all introduced to Nepal by the ruling Rana Dynasty when they returned from studies in England and India in 1920s though the game was kept very much within them. They started some developmental program; the establishment of Cricket Association of Nepal in 1946 to promote the cricket amongst the aristocracy was one of them.

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I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
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As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms
This is the tragedy that cricket Is completely controlled by politics and their extremist leaders,  similarly Pakistan have always been targeted and left out because of this BCCI and Indian politics.  The world cup next year is planned to be held in pakistan and BCCI jey Shah straightaway rejected that and said India cannot come to Pakistan as matched should be held at neutral venue .
India has alot of political and economic benefits from Afghanistan and that's clear from their behaviour towards Afghanistan, even their players participate in IPL.
Of course you didn't say bad. Today there is business and politics everywhere. But it is normal to have politics or business, but when these things are illegal, the world becomes ugly. Just like cricket is a gentleman's game, but when a team loses by not making the right decision for business, there is no politeness anymore. So, to take cricket forward, everyone has to work together.

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November 15, 2022, 02:34:56 PM
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I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
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As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms
This is the tragedy that cricket Is completely controlled by politics and their extremist leaders,  similarly Pakistan have always been targeted and left out because of this BCCI and Indian politics.  The world cup next year is planned to be held in pakistan and BCCI jey Shah straightaway rejected that and said India cannot come to Pakistan as matched should be held at neutral venue .
India has alot of political and economic benefits from Afghanistan and that's clear from their behaviour towards Afghanistan, even their players participate in IPL.

@YinShuiSiYuan I don’t think that anything will change, because currently BCCI has political people running it directly and indirectly hence I expect zero changes in their policy towards Nepal. Furthermore that statement was definitely bad and abuse of power, and thus I feel that ICC should not shift the tournament because it’ll set a very wrong precedent and it may cripple Pakistan cricket for year’s as all countries will suddenly back out from touring them.
Yes that's kinda true that some dirty political games have started in cricket, and specially if we want to see some teams trying to use their power to gain their own advantage, it has become this year's T20 couple but they could not succeed. But I would definitely disagree with such change of venue. So that I will also agree with you because It is not right to wrongfully oppress a team in this way so ICC should shift that tournament Venue.



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November 15, 2022, 02:59:00 PM
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I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
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As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms
This is the tragedy that cricket Is completely controlled by politics and their extremist leaders,  similarly Pakistan have always been targeted and left out because of this BCCI and Indian politics.  The world cup next year is planned to be held in pakistan and BCCI jey Shah straightaway rejected that and said India cannot come to Pakistan as matched should be held at neutral venue .
India has alot of political and economic benefits from Afghanistan and that's clear from their behaviour towards Afghanistan, even their players participate in IPL.
Maybe for some reasons BCCI has expressed such words but hopefully they will come back from there. If Pakistan is able to fulfill the requirements given by the ICC then there will have no problem for anyone to play. Moreover, BCCI cannot do any prejudiced act. If there is a security issue it can also be resolved through negotiation. Hopefully all such things will be resolved before the next World Cup.

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November 15, 2022, 03:07:57 PM
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I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
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As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms
This is the tragedy that cricket Is completely controlled by politics and their extremist leaders,  similarly Pakistan have always been targeted and left out because of this BCCI and Indian politics.  The world cup next year is planned to be held in pakistan and BCCI jey Shah straightaway rejected that and said India cannot come to Pakistan as matched should be held at neutral venue .
India has alot of political and economic benefits from Afghanistan and that's clear from their behaviour towards Afghanistan, even their players participate in IPL.
Maybe for some reasons BCCI has expressed such words but hopefully they will come back from there. If Pakistan is able to fulfill the requirements given by the ICC then there will have no problem for anyone to play. Moreover, BCCI cannot do any prejudiced act. If there is a security issue it can also be resolved through negotiation. Hopefully all such things will be resolved before the next World Cup.

There is probably no security problem in Pakistan now. Because the Pakistan government now tries to provide maximum security to foreign cricketers. The government of Pakistan will not hesitate to use the army if necessary on the issue of security. But BCCI does not want the series to be held in Pakistan. The main reason for this is the political conflict between these two countries. I think the ICC will definitely give more priority to India's wishes. And will host the series at a separate venue.
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I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
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As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms
U-19, U-23 (not Ind A) won't be productive much IMO as they hardly travel frequently even in SENA. The first-class tour would never happen as it would be a complete waste of time for any Ranji team except the Northeast (due to skill level) but the Nepali team has everything to gain if they get to travel and participate in Ranji. I used to play amateur cricket and back then we had a fair amount of Nepali players in our club but they were settled here for good. Guess you already know about the history of how it goes?

The only reason the Gulf getting preferential treatment is due to the large Indian Diaspora and economic clout of the gulf countries and it seems BCCI really don't see any incentive on promoting cricket in Nepal, Myanmar etc due to the very same reasons.

Why will they talk to BCCI for help or support? That is something which they will never try to do as BCCI would take the credit if Nepal starts winning tournaments. Nepal is leat bothered about cricket if they want help then they need to talk to ICC. We know ICC doesn't cares about other boards unless money is involved therefore CAN should work on a strategy to revive cricket in the grass root level.

IMO There is nothing wrong if CAN ask for some favors and BCCI taking credit or not is another matter. This discussion should come when both parties see some sort of success, also it shouldn't bother anyone.

 

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November 15, 2022, 04:05:15 PM
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I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
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As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms
This is the tragedy that cricket Is completely controlled by politics and their extremist leaders,  similarly Pakistan have always been targeted and left out because of this BCCI and Indian politics.  The world cup next year is planned to be held in pakistan and BCCI jey Shah straightaway rejected that and said India cannot come to Pakistan as matched should be held at neutral venue .
India has alot of political and economic benefits from Afghanistan and that's clear from their behaviour towards Afghanistan, even their players participate in IPL.
Maybe for some reasons BCCI has expressed such words but hopefully they will come back from there. If Pakistan is able to fulfill the requirements given by the ICC then there will have no problem for anyone to play. Moreover, BCCI cannot do any prejudiced act. If there is a security issue it can also be resolved through negotiation. Hopefully all such things will be resolved before the next World Cup.
Alot of teams came to Pakistan for their tours and went back safely and their security was kept up to the mark. England I'd coming to Pakistan in December again for test cricket so obviously safety and security reasons are not true . Yes unfortunately India Pakistan politics is like this since their independence intolerance and politics choas has always been there.
Yes we hope that India change it's decision and ICC shouldn't change its decision under pressure of BCCI as we all know BCCI has strong hold on ICC decisions.

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November 15, 2022, 05:33:30 PM
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I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
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As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms
This is the tragedy that cricket Is completely controlled by politics and their extremist leaders,  similarly Pakistan have always been targeted and left out because of this BCCI and Indian politics.  The world cup next year is planned to be held in pakistan and BCCI jey Shah straightaway rejected that and said India cannot come to Pakistan as matched should be held at neutral venue .
India has alot of political and economic benefits from Afghanistan and that's clear from their behaviour towards Afghanistan, even their players participate in IPL.
Maybe for some reasons BCCI has expressed such words but hopefully they will come back from there. If Pakistan is able to fulfill the requirements given by the ICC then there will have no problem for anyone to play. Moreover, BCCI cannot do any prejudiced act. If there is a security issue it can also be resolved through negotiation. Hopefully all such things will be resolved before the next World Cup.
Alot of teams came to Pakistan for their tours and went back safely and their security was kept up to the mark. England I'd coming to Pakistan in December again for test cricket so obviously safety and security reasons are not true . Yes unfortunately India Pakistan politics is like this since their independence intolerance and politics choas has always been there.
Yes we hope that India change it's decision and ICC shouldn't change its decision under pressure of BCCI as we all know BCCI has strong hold on ICC decisions.
ICC will never agree to any unreasonable demands of BCCI. It doesn't matter how the contribution of BCCI in ICC. The ICC will never biased on the basis of diplomatic antagonism between two countries.If it is done, it may have various questions about that organization. Since England is willing to play and also if other countries are willing in the same way then BCCI will come to play. I have already said that if India raises any logical claim against it then it must be reviewed.

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November 15, 2022, 05:42:20 PM
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I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
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As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms
This is the tragedy that cricket Is completely controlled by politics and their extremist leaders,  similarly Pakistan have always been targeted and left out because of this BCCI and Indian politics.  The world cup next year is planned to be held in pakistan and BCCI jey Shah straightaway rejected that and said India cannot come to Pakistan as matched should be held at neutral venue .
India has alot of political and economic benefits from Afghanistan and that's clear from their behaviour towards Afghanistan, even their players participate in IPL.
Maybe for some reasons BCCI has expressed such words but hopefully they will come back from there. If Pakistan is able to fulfill the requirements given by the ICC then there will have no problem for anyone to play. Moreover, BCCI cannot do any prejudiced act. If there is a security issue it can also be resolved through negotiation. Hopefully all such things will be resolved before the next World Cup.
Alot of teams came to Pakistan for their tours and went back safely and their security was kept up to the mark. England I'd coming to Pakistan in December again for test cricket so obviously safety and security reasons are not true . Yes unfortunately India Pakistan politics is like this since their independence intolerance and politics choas has always been there.
Yes we hope that India change it's decision and ICC shouldn't change its decision under pressure of BCCI as we all know BCCI has strong hold on ICC decisions.
ICC will never agree to any unreasonable demands of BCCI. It doesn't matter how the contribution of BCCI in ICC. The ICC will never biased on the basis of diplomatic antagonism between two countries.If it is done, it may have various questions about that organization. Since England is willing to play and also if other countries are willing in the same way then BCCI will come to play. I have already said that if India raises any logical claim against it then it must be reviewed.
Their main concern is security reasons as they think their life is in danger if they'll come to play world cup in Pakistan. And yes we all hope that ICC should come with a transparent and fair solution to all BCCI concerns.
Basically extremist political parties in India BJP are also source of concern for cricket boards.

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November 15, 2022, 05:58:51 PM
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I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
~~~

As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms
This is the tragedy that cricket Is completely controlled by politics and their extremist leaders,  similarly Pakistan have always been targeted and left out because of this BCCI and Indian politics.  The world cup next year is planned to be held in pakistan and BCCI jey Shah straightaway rejected that and said India cannot come to Pakistan as matched should be held at neutral venue .
India has alot of political and economic benefits from Afghanistan and that's clear from their behaviour towards Afghanistan, even their players participate in IPL.
Maybe for some reasons BCCI has expressed such words but hopefully they will come back from there. If Pakistan is able to fulfill the requirements given by the ICC then there will have no problem for anyone to play. Moreover, BCCI cannot do any prejudiced act. If there is a security issue it can also be resolved through negotiation. Hopefully all such things will be resolved before the next World Cup.
I am also saying the same thing.  But I don't think anything will change as a result of our cricket being directly or indirectly connected with those invisible power . But it can be expected to  ICC  to come up with a silver solution. If they have a security concern then let Pakistan fulfill it accordingly. These sudden decision changes are indirectly harmful for each party.



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November 15, 2022, 11:51:29 PM
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I was more interested and wanted to know about cricket relations between CAN and BCCI, not political party stuff.
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As far as I know, BCCI hasn't sent any teams (A, U-19, U-23, first class) to Nepal in the last two decades or so. Cricket relations are practically inexistent. The same can be said about the other neighbors, such as Bhutan, Maldives, China and Myanmar. The Asian Cricket Council (ACC) was setup to grow cricket in countries such as Nepal and Malaysia, but gradually it got hijacked by the gulf states such as the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. When Srinivasan was in power, there were demands from the ICC to disband ACC, but some of the members opposed (esp. PCB) and this step was abandoned.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/new-zealand-in-india-2016/top-stories/acc-asia-cup-future-under-cloud/articleshow/35662963.cms
This is the tragedy that cricket Is completely controlled by politics and their extremist leaders,  similarly Pakistan have always been targeted and left out because of this BCCI and Indian politics.  The world cup next year is planned to be held in pakistan and BCCI jey Shah straightaway rejected that and said India cannot come to Pakistan as matched should be held at neutral venue .
India has alot of political and economic benefits from Afghanistan and that's clear from their behaviour towards Afghanistan, even their players participate in IPL.
Maybe for some reasons BCCI has expressed such words but hopefully they will come back from there. If Pakistan is able to fulfill the requirements given by the ICC then there will have no problem for anyone to play. Moreover, BCCI cannot do any prejudiced act. If there is a security issue it can also be resolved through negotiation. Hopefully all such things will be resolved before the next World Cup.
Alot of teams came to Pakistan for their tours and went back safely and their security was kept up to the mark. England I'd coming to Pakistan in December again for test cricket so obviously safety and security reasons are not true . Yes unfortunately India Pakistan politics is like this since their independence intolerance and politics choas has always been there.
Yes we hope that India change it's decision and ICC shouldn't change its decision under pressure of BCCI as we all know BCCI has strong hold on ICC decisions.
ICC will never agree to any unreasonable demands of BCCI. It doesn't matter how the contribution of BCCI in ICC. The ICC will never biased on the basis of diplomatic antagonism between two countries.If it is done, it may have various questions about that organization. Since England is willing to play and also if other countries are willing in the same way then BCCI will come to play. I have already said that if India raises any logical claim against it then it must be reviewed.
Their main concern is security reasons as they think their life is in danger if they'll come to play world cup in Pakistan. And yes we all hope that ICC should come with a transparent and fair solution to all BCCI concerns.
Basically extremist political parties in India BJP are also source of concern for cricket boards.
I don't think BCCI will comeback with a positive thought to play cricket in Pakistan. Even if Pakistan assure of making the best arrangements India will BCCI will surely deny it requesting for neutral venue. If not, surely they'll not participate. Because, for the ruling party India - Pakistan issue is a big politics and keeps fooling the people with hate. If BCCI agree to play in Pakistan, it'll differ from their agenda.
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November 16, 2022, 02:06:45 AM
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U-19, U-23 (not Ind A) won't be productive much IMO as they hardly travel frequently even in SENA. The first-class tour would never happen as it would be a complete waste of time for any Ranji team except the Northeast (due to skill level) but the Nepali team has everything to gain if they get to travel and participate in Ranji. I used to play amateur cricket and back then we had a fair amount of Nepali players in our club but they were settled here for good. Guess you already know about the history of how it goes?

The only reason the Gulf getting preferential treatment is due to the large Indian Diaspora and economic clout of the gulf countries and it seems BCCI really don't see any incentive on promoting cricket in Nepal, Myanmar etc due to the very same reasons.

Given the political situation, I don't think that either of the sides will take a positive view on Nepal's participation in the Ranji Trophy. BTW, given the history so far, CAN should approach the ICC or other boards such as PCB or BCB for support, rather than relying on the BCCI. The PCB has taken a much more favorable view of the associate nations. They are perhaps the only country to keep the Future Tour Programs (FTP) commitments on Zimbabwe. But first of all, CAN needs to put its house in order. They were suspended for three years from 2016, due to political interference.

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U-19, U-23 (not Ind A) won't be productive much IMO as they hardly travel frequently even in SENA. The first-class tour would never happen as it would be a complete waste of time for any Ranji team except the Northeast (due to skill level) but the Nepali team has everything to gain if they get to travel and participate in Ranji. I used to play amateur cricket and back then we had a fair amount of Nepali players in our club but they were settled here for good. Guess you already know about the history of how it goes?

The only reason the Gulf getting preferential treatment is due to the large Indian Diaspora and economic clout of the gulf countries and it seems BCCI really don't see any incentive on promoting cricket in Nepal, Myanmar etc due to the very same reasons.

Given the political situation, I don't think that either of the sides will take a positive view on Nepal's participation in the Ranji Trophy. BTW, given the history so far, CAN should approach the ICC or other boards such as PCB or BCB for support, rather than relying on the BCCI. The PCB has taken a much more favorable view of the associate nations. They are perhaps the only country to keep the Future Tour Programs (FTP) commitments on Zimbabwe. But first of all, CAN needs to put its house in order. They were suspended for three years from 2016, due to political interference.
How big is the cricket market in Nepal, is it a profitable business at a local level?

You might be onto something, as i pointed out States might oppose this idea (inclusion of Nepal in Ranji) but at the same time i hope CAN and BCCI should start talking, CAN should take this initiative if they are serious as BCCI has virtually no incentive in this affair (except earning some brownie points).

Yeah, you are right about PCB. Having said that they were the beneficiary of PIG-3 deal (Srinivasan) and if I'm not wrong then this deal added an extra $25-30M to their existing share, actually it was beneficiary to every Test playing nation.

If I'm being realistic then IMO the big reason associates are in a poor state is because they want Test cricket status (mostly because of ICC fantasy). It's not feasible as it's a loss-making business even for existing members so i'd prefer if associates focus on LOIs only in the longer run.

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How big is the cricket market in Nepal, is it a profitable business at a local level?

The market in Nepal is not that small. For some years now, they have their own franchise T20 league (Everest Premier League), in which players from countries such as Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, England and West Indies take part. Notable participants include Shahid Afridi, Oshada Fernando, Richard Levi, Rahmanullah Gurbaz and Ryan Burl. It is a cricket crazy nation (cricket is now the no.1 sport) and the market is rapidly growing.

If I'm being realistic then IMO the big reason associates are in a poor state is because they want Test cricket status (mostly because of ICC fantasy). It's not feasible as it's a loss-making business even for existing members so i'd prefer if associates focus on LOIs only in the longer run.

The reason is that ICC funding depends on test status. Ireland was receiving just around $1 million per year when they were associates. That amount went up by 10x, once they received the test status. Nepal receives only around $200,000 per years form ICC (a reduction of 80% or so from 2007-15 levels), because their rank went own recently due to defeats in ACC tournaments to GCC teams.

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2nd ODI match united Arab emirates vs Nepal cricket team. united arab emirates cricket team plays very well. United Arab Emirates won the toss and batted in today's match. United Arab emirates team batsmen are playing the balls of Nepal team bowlers comfortably. Among Nepali bowlers, only Lalit Rahbanshi has done better so far. Lalit ranbanshi gave 7 runs in three overs and also managed to take 1 wicket
The UAE is trying hard to focused on cricket. They portray that image in their game as well. Nepal is also trying to show the best. However, a review of today's match shows that UAE have managed to score a total of 174 runs after playing 37 overs at this moment. Alishan Sharafu and Basil Hameed have formed a good partnership. Alishan Sharafu has played only 9 ODI matches and Basil Hameed has played 27 ODI matches so far. But we have to see what Nepal can do in today's match.

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2nd ODI match united Arab emirates vs Nepal cricket team. united arab emirates cricket team plays very well. United Arab Emirates won the toss and batted in today's match. United Arab emirates team batsmen are playing the balls of Nepal team bowlers comfortably. Among Nepali bowlers, only Lalit Rahbanshi has done better so far. Lalit ranbanshi gave 7 runs in three overs and also managed to take 1 wicket
on the todays match (2nd ODI) United Arab Emirates are all out in just 43.2 overs and they have scored only 191 runs but it is a big challenge for Nepal as they have scored 41 runs in 12 overs and already they have lost two wickets which indicates that they may not be able to play for much longer.  They will lose all wickets before scoring above 150 runs.


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