ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[Juggy777]

@BobK71 The situation of Pakistan women's cricket is improving rapidly. And it will be best for Pakistan if they try to maximize their potential right now. In the WPSL the women cricketers of Pakistan will also try to improve their gameplay. That is eventually going to create a better team and also a better environment for Pakistan cricket and Pakistan women's cricket.

Pakistan takes cricket very seriously. They plan to improve women's cricket as like as men's. I think Pakistan women cricket team will be strong and at the same time cricket board can earn good money from it. Since the announcement of this event, Pakistani women cricketers are now starting to dream again. They will now be more attentive than before. Above all, Pakistan cricket will improve dramatically.

Pakistan Cricket Board always cares very much about both their cricket teams. They are improving women's cricket team day by day. Pakistan women cricket team has many talented players who will come and show their talents and bring some good things to the team. Hopefully in a few years Pakistan Women's Cricket Team will become very strong.

Pakistan Cricket Board is not very strong financially. But they are trying to improve from that position. An official of the PCB confirmed that the board earned an estimated net profit of 2.3 billion Pakistani rupees from the PSL, the highest ever. This is also a major motive behind the Pakistan Cricket Board organizing the women's cricket tournament. As a result Pakistan Cricket Board will be able to increase their revenue.

@BobK71 I feel that woman's cricket is an untapped niche with a huge potential, and if Pakistan can organise more tournaments then they’ll definitely get rich dividends from it in the long run. Furthermore people are changing their outlook towards woman who play cricket, hence it’s only a matter of time before advertisers start paying big bucks for their matches hence it makes sense why PCB is keen to tap into this niche.

[fuguebtc]

3rd Match Ireland Women's Team vs Pakistan Women's Team. Ireland women's team won the toss and batted. Ireland women's batting performance is not looking good. Ireland Women scored 84 runs for no loss in 21 overs. Ireland Women's team lost 2 consecutive matches against Pakistan Women's team. Let's see how well Ireland women can do in this match

Ireland women have so far struggled to adapt to the Pakistani conditions. I guess it may take some time for them to get used to the weather differences and unfamiliar pitches. They may lose the third match as well. Ireland made a total of 225 in 49.5 overs. Leah Paul, Gaby Lewis and Amy Hunter gave them a good start, but then they collapsed from 149/1 to 225 all out. And this once again shows the lack of experience of the players. For Pakistan, the spinners made use of supportive conditions, with leggie Ghulam Fatima picking up 5 wickets.

I also have to say that Pakistan won the match quite easily in my opinion. In the end, they had five wickets in hand and 17 balls left. But I have to say Ireland did try their best. Although I certainly cannot say that they have actually given the Pakistan women any kind of difficulties.

Ireland started well, but in the end, it was the same old story for them. As soon as the top order returns to the hut, Ireland is doomed. In the end, a very strong all-around performance from Pakistan women. They have made improvements, but still have a long way to go.

[BobK71]

3rd Match Ireland Women's Team vs Pakistan Women's Team. Ireland women's team won the toss and batted. Ireland women's batting performance is not looking good. Ireland Women scored 84 runs for no loss in 21 overs. Ireland Women's team lost 2 consecutive matches against Pakistan Women's team. Let's see how well Ireland women can do in this match

Ireland women have so far struggled to adapt to the Pakistani conditions. I guess it may take some time for them to get used to the weather differences and unfamiliar pitches. They may lose the third match as well. Ireland made a total of 225 in 49.5 overs. Leah Paul, Gaby Lewis and Amy Hunter gave them a good start, but then they collapsed from 149/1 to 225 all out. And this once again shows the lack of experience of the players. For Pakistan, the spinners made use of supportive conditions, with leggie Ghulam Fatima picking up 5 wickets.

I also have to say that Pakistan won the match quite easily in my opinion. In the end, they had five wickets in hand and 17 balls left. But I have to say Ireland did try their best. Although I certainly cannot say that they have actually given the Pakistan women any kind of difficulties.

Ireland started well, but in the end, it was the same old story for them. As soon as the top order returns to the hut, Ireland is doomed. In the end, a very strong all-around performance from Pakistan women. They have made improvements, but still have a long way to go.

Ireland women are trying their best but could not add much to their score. The batsmen batted with time but could not play a complete over at the end. But a few more runs could have made the game a bit more competitive. Pakistan women's team has been performing very well now a days. Pakistan Cricket Board is very much attentive for them. In the future Pakistan women's cricket team will improve a lot.

[Sithara007]

@BobK71 I feel that woman's cricket is an untapped niche with a huge potential, and if Pakistan can organise more tournaments then they’ll definitely get rich dividends from it in the long run. Furthermore people are changing their outlook towards woman who play cricket, hence it’s only a matter of time before advertisers start paying big bucks for their matches hence it makes sense why PCB is keen to tap into this niche.

The national boards, as well as the ICC ignored women's cricket for so long. Now they are much behind when compared to the other sports. The BCCI gave all sort of excuses to delay the WIPL, and finally they have scheduled the first edition for 2023. PCB is yet to give any hint on the WPSL, but I guess it will happen sometime in the near future. But the response from the ICC has been disappointing. They never treat women's game with any importance, and this will not change unless businessmen such as Greg Barclay are kicked out of the office.

[BobK71]

@BobK71 I feel that woman's cricket is an untapped niche with a huge potential, and if Pakistan can organise more tournaments then they’ll definitely get rich dividends from it in the long run. Furthermore people are changing their outlook towards woman who play cricket, hence it’s only a matter of time before advertisers start paying big bucks for their matches hence it makes sense why PCB is keen to tap into this niche.

The national boards, as well as the ICC ignored women's cricket for so long. Now they are much behind when compared to the other sports. The BCCI gave all sort of excuses to delay the WIPL, and finally they have scheduled the first edition for 2023. PCB is yet to give any hint on the WPSL, but I guess it will happen sometime in the near future. But the response from the ICC has been disappointing. They never treat women's game with any importance, and this will not change unless businessmen such as Greg Barclay are kicked out of the office.

Before conducting an event ICC looks at how it will cost or earning. If they are lagging behind in terms of money, they are not encouraged. But the ICC was supposed to take initiative in all these matters. If someone else takes that proposal, they reject it, ICC's behavior is very strange.

The initiative taken by BCCI was later followed by other countries. If India is able to manage WIPL properly then other countries Pakistan, Bangladesh will also walk in the same path as they followed IPL. However, like men's cricket, women's cricket will not get the same level, but at some point when good cricketers are produced, those tournaments will be profitable.

[Sithara007]

Before conducting an event ICC looks at how it will cost or earning. If they are lagging behind in terms of money, they are not encouraged. But the ICC was supposed to take initiative in all these matters. If someone else takes that proposal, they reject it, ICC's behavior is very strange.

The initiative taken by BCCI was later followed by other countries. If India is able to manage WIPL properly then other countries Pakistan, Bangladesh will also walk in the same path as they followed IPL. However, like men's cricket, women's cricket will not get the same level, but at some point when good cricketers are produced, those tournaments will be profitable.

Profit should not be the sole concern here. Organizations such as FIFA and FIH have a lot of U-15, U-17 and U-19 tournaments, although these events doesn't return much profit for them. The ICC is different. They always think about money and were even planning to cancel the U-19 and women's world cup events. One disadvantage with women's cricket is that many of the participating countries are in South Asia and the culture is very conservative. In countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh, it is even more difficult.

[WatChe]

Before conducting an event ICC looks at how it will cost or earning. If they are lagging behind in terms of money, they are not encouraged. But the ICC was supposed to take initiative in all these matters. If someone else takes that proposal, they reject it, ICC's behavior is very strange.

The initiative taken by BCCI was later followed by other countries. If India is able to manage WIPL properly then other countries Pakistan, Bangladesh will also walk in the same path as they followed IPL. However, like men's cricket, women's cricket will not get the same level, but at some point when good cricketers are produced, those tournaments will be profitable.

Profit should not be the sole concern here. Organizations such as FIFA and FIH have a lot of U-15, U-17 and U-19 tournaments, although these events doesn't return much profit for them. The ICC is different. They always think about money and were even planning to cancel the U-19 and women's world cup events. One disadvantage with women's cricket is that many of the participating countries are in South Asia and the culture is very conservative. In countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh, it is even more difficult.

For women cricket to prosper, it's important that icc must involve more and more countries in cricket. Right now there are only 10 regular teams in ICC panel rest are just associate teams. Irony is the largest board aka bcci is paying zero focus for women cricket.

[dezoel]

For women cricket to prosper, it's important that icc must involve more and more countries in cricket. Right now there are only 10 regular teams in ICC panel rest are just associate teams. Irony is the largest board aka bcci is paying zero focus for women cricket.

Mate right now ICC is doing negative things for the game of cricket so never expect any positive change from them in near future because they are brainless peoples and just think about increasing profit never done any positive development for the game so if you want to in any long detail or want to work for development of this game then please leave this all and do some other interesting thing cricket is biggest in popularity but sadly it's on their lowest level in management because they have no positive ideas about this game.

For the development of women cricket few boards are doing good work, but they have enough sources and things to do like Australia and England but here in subcontinent it's never been ideal because our mindset is also not as peoples having in countries like Australia and England for example today I was reading a tweet which was having picture of Pakistani women cricketers and would you believe no one was praising their game or wins which these women's achieve mostly were talking about their body language and other parts of body which is really sad for me and peoples those love sports.

[crunck]

Before conducting an event ICC looks at how it will cost or earning. If they are lagging behind in terms of money, they are not encouraged. But the ICC was supposed to take initiative in all these matters. If someone else takes that proposal, they reject it, ICC's behavior is very strange.
The initiative taken by BCCI was later followed by other countries. If India is able to manage WIPL properly then other countries Pakistan, Bangladesh will also walk in the same path as they followed IPL. However, like men's cricket, women's cricket will not get the same level, but at some point when good cricketers are produced, those tournaments will be profitable.

Profit should not be the sole concern here. Organizations such as FIFA and FIH have a lot of U-15, U-17 and U-19 tournaments, although these events doesn't return much profit for them. The ICC is different. They always think about money and were even planning to cancel the U-19 and women's world cup events. One disadvantage with women's cricket is that many of the participating countries are in South Asia and the culture is very conservative. In countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh, it is even more difficult.

I don’t think there is any point in talking about this. ICC is always going to think about money first. And that is going to be the downfall of ICC. To be honest every sports body needs to think about money. The ICC is absolutely different because they only care about money. For somebody you obviously need to think about money otherwise you’re not going to be good in the long run for that certain sport. But at the same time, in the long run, you are not going to earn a good amount of money if you have any favorites, and also I don’t want to upgrade and improve the number of playing nations. For ICC profit seems to be the only thing of concern.

[sovie]

I don’t think there is any point in talking about this. ICC is always going to think about money first. And that is going to be the downfall of ICC. To be honest every sports body needs to think about money. The ICC is absolutely different because they only care about money. For somebody you obviously need to think about money otherwise you’re not going to be good in the long run for that certain sport. But at the same time, in the long run, you are not going to earn a good amount of money if you have any favorites, and also I don’t want to upgrade and improve the number of playing nations. For ICC profit seems to be the only thing of concern.

Today India lost to England. Bad luck for India- while India is going back home - Pakistan reached the Final. Now England will try to win the world cup but Paksitan has been very lucky to reach the final. If the luck is siding them they might win.

[Theones]

Before conducting an event ICC looks at how it will cost or earning. If they are lagging behind in terms of money, they are not encouraged. But the ICC was supposed to take initiative in all these matters. If someone else takes that proposal, they reject it, ICC's behavior is very strange.

The initiative taken by BCCI was later followed by other countries. If India is able to manage WIPL properly then other countries Pakistan, Bangladesh will also walk in the same path as they followed IPL. However, like men's cricket, women's cricket will not get the same level, but at some point when good cricketers are produced, those tournaments will be profitable.

Profit should not be the sole concern here. Organizations such as FIFA and FIH have a lot of U-15, U-17 and U-19 tournaments, although these events doesn't return much profit for them. The ICC is different. They always think about money and were even planning to cancel the U-19 and women's world cup events. One disadvantage with women's cricket is that many of the participating countries are in South Asia and the culture is very conservative. In countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh, it is even more difficult.

India lost their semi final today - I think IPL had a very bad impact on the team India - does INdian think the same way?

[Sithara007]

I don’t think there is any point in talking about this. ICC is always going to think about money first. And that is going to be the downfall of ICC. To be honest every sports body needs to think about money. The ICC is absolutely different because they only care about money. For somebody you obviously need to think about money otherwise you’re not going to be good in the long run for that certain sport. But at the same time, in the long run, you are not going to earn a good amount of money if you have any favorites, and also I don’t want to upgrade and improve the number of playing nations. For ICC profit seems to be the only thing of concern.

If that is the case, then the ICC should stop claiming that they are a sports body. Rather, they should claim that they are a business organization. Maybe they could go for an IPO and list themselves in the stock markets as well. A large part of the revenues are used for "administrative expenses" and no one ever gets any details for this part. There is absolutely zero accountability and no one knows how a large part of the revenues are being spent. And since they have their headquarters in the United Arab Emirates, no one can demand for any sort of audit or review.
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[TheGreatPython]

Before conducting an event ICC looks at how it will cost or earning. If they are lagging behind in terms of money, they are not encouraged. But the ICC was supposed to take initiative in all these matters. If someone else takes that proposal, they reject it, ICC's behavior is very strange.

The initiative taken by BCCI was later followed by other countries. If India is able to manage WIPL properly then other countries Pakistan, Bangladesh will also walk in the same path as they followed IPL. However, like men's cricket, women's cricket will not get the same level, but at some point when good cricketers are produced, those tournaments will be profitable.

Profit should not be the sole concern here. Organizations such as FIFA and FIH have a lot of U-15, U-17 and U-19 tournaments, although these events doesn't return much profit for them. The ICC is different. They always think about money and were even planning to cancel the U-19 and women's world cup events. One disadvantage with women's cricket is that many of the participating countries are in South Asia and the culture is very conservative. In countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh, it is even more difficult.

Sports organizations need to do things like NGO's and few are already doing things like this, but sadly we never have any positive thing in ICC like this just because of this we have too much criticism for this organization and peoples those are involved in this all are also mindless because most of the management is not from sport they are businessmen or politicians so just because of this we are having too many issues like these as @Sithara007 saying they can go with tournaments like U-15, U-17 and U-19 which will bring better quality and chance for many associate and other countries to increase quality, but they are having only one tournament U-19 and that end so it means they are not serious about this all which is surely a concern right now and no one available to give up any update about this all.

[Theones]

I don’t think there is any point in talking about this. ICC is always going to think about money first. And that is going to be the downfall of ICC. To be honest every sports body needs to think about money. The ICC is absolutely different because they only care about money. For somebody you obviously need to think about money otherwise you’re not going to be good in the long run for that certain sport. But at the same time, in the long run, you are not going to earn a good amount of money if you have any favorites, and also I don’t want to upgrade and improve the number of playing nations. For ICC profit seems to be the only thing of concern.

If that is the case, then the ICC should stop claiming that they are a sports body. Rather, they should claim that they are a business organization. Maybe they could go for an IPO and list themselves in the stock markets as well. A large part of the revenues are used for "administrative expenses" and no one ever gets any details for this part. There is absolutely zero accountability and no one knows how a large part of the revenues are being spent. And since they have their headquarters in the United Arab Emirates, no one can demand for any sort of audit or review.
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That is what every sports body does. They are more of a menting money body than working on the promotion of sports itself.
Some people claim the same for FIFA as well, but that is okie . . they can't make everyone happy.

[og kush420]

Before conducting an event ICC looks at how it will cost or earning. If they are lagging behind in terms of money, they are not encouraged. But the ICC was supposed to take initiative in all these matters. If someone else takes that proposal, they reject it, ICC's behavior is very strange.
The initiative taken by BCCI was later followed by other countries. If India is able to manage WIPL properly then other countries Pakistan, Bangladesh will also walk in the same path as they followed IPL. However, like men's cricket, women's cricket will not get the same level, but at some point when good cricketers are produced, those tournaments will be profitable.

Profit should not be the sole concern here. Organizations such as FIFA and FIH have a lot of U-15, U-17 and U-19 tournaments, although these events doesn't return much profit for them. The ICC is different. They always think about money and were even planning to cancel the U-19 and women's world cup events. One disadvantage with women's cricket is that many of the participating countries are in South Asia and the culture is very conservative. In countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh, it is even more difficult.

I don’t think there is any point in talking about this. ICC is always going to think about money first. And that is going to be the downfall of ICC. To be honest every sports body needs to think about money. The ICC is absolutely different because they only care about money. For somebody you obviously need to think about money otherwise you’re not going to be good in the long run for that certain sport. But at the same time, in the long run, you are not going to earn a good amount of money if you have any favorites, and also I don’t want to upgrade and improve the number of playing nations. For ICC profit seems to be the only thing of concern.

Its not only ICC but its every sports body - they would think of money first. And that is okie.
With out money there is nothing productive - one thing they should not be doing it ignoring the right thing for the sake of money.

[Sithara007]

That is what every sports body does. They are more of a menting money body than working on the promotion of sports itself.
Some people claim the same for FIFA as well, but that is okie . . they can't make everyone happy.

Nope. Every sports body doesn't behave like this. FIFA spends a majority of their revenue every year to develop football in the developing nations. And the remaining revenue is divided equally between the 211 national associations. In order to make football more popular (it is already the most popular sport in the world), they have increased the number of participants in the world cup to 48 (from 32). On the other hand, the ICC reduced the number of participants in the ODI world cup from 16 to 10. World Rugby is another organization which puts sports above money. They divided the member nations to several tiers, and provided additional funding to each country to develop the sport, depending on the tier.

[Yurkov]

I don’t think there is any point in talking about this. ICC is always going to think about money first. And that is going to be the downfall of ICC. To be honest every sports body needs to think about money. The ICC is absolutely different because they only care about money. For somebody you obviously need to think about money otherwise you’re not going to be good in the long run for that certain sport. But at the same time, in the long run, you are not going to earn a good amount of money if you have any favorites, and also I don’t want to upgrade and improve the number of playing nations. For ICC profit seems to be the only thing of concern.

Today India lost to England. Bad luck for India- while India is going back home - Pakistan reached the Final. Now England will try to win the world cup but Paksitan has been very lucky to reach the final. If the luck is siding them they might win.

The match between England and Pakistan will be very competitive. But I want to put England ahead of Pakistan, because England team's opening batsman and middle order batsman are very good. But Babar Azam and Mohammad Rejuan are one of the batsmen of Pakistan team, but the middle order batsman of this team is very weak. India's defeat on the other hand surprised me.

[JSRAW]

Nope. Every sports body doesn't behave like this. FIFA spends a majority of their revenue every year to develop football in the developing nations. And the remaining revenue is divided equally between the 211 national associations. In order to make football more popular (it is already the most popular sport in the world), they have increased the number of participants in the world cup to 48 (from 32). On the other hand, the ICC reduced the number of participants in the ODI world cup from 16 to 10. World Rugby is another organization which puts sports above money. They divided the member nations to several tiers, and provided additional funding to each country to develop the sport, depending on the tier.

Usual suspects are back in the ICC board.

Most importantly they also filled the Financial & Commercial Affairs Committee (F&CA) top post and guess the name (Jay Shah). This committee decides the finance thingy for global cricket. Let's see what happens, interesting times are ahead for sure.

Having said that I'm surprised that why there is no voice regarding "Conflict of interest".

[|MINER|]

I don’t think there is any point in talking about this. ICC is always going to think about money first. And that is going to be the downfall of ICC. To be honest every sports body needs to think about money. The ICC is absolutely different because they only care about money. For somebody you obviously need to think about money otherwise you’re not going to be good in the long run for that certain sport. But at the same time, in the long run, you are not going to earn a good amount of money if you have any favorites, and also I don’t want to upgrade and improve the number of playing nations. For ICC profit seems to be the only thing of concern.

Today India lost to England. Bad luck for India- while India is going back home - Pakistan reached the Final. Now England will try to win the world cup but Paksitan has been very lucky to reach the final. If the luck is siding them they might win.

The match between England and Pakistan will be very competitive. But I want to put England ahead of Pakistan, because England team's opening batsman and middle order batsman are very good. But Babar Azam and Mohammad Rejuan are one of the batsmen of Pakistan team, but the middle order batsman of this team is very weak. India's defeat on the other hand surprised me.

I think in this time it is a major problem for  Pakistan team on all format . Because almost in most cases it has been seen that if the top order batsmen can't perform well then Pakistan has to gain a lot of momentum to win that match. But I am little confused about upcoming match even the match prediction says the win probability of England is more than Pakistan but still I think that match is very unpredictable. If England team can get Pakistan's top order batsmen out early then I think it will be very easy for England to win. And on the other hand if they can't do that and the top order batsmen can perform well then I think Pakistan also has the ability to win.

[dezoel]

That is what every sports body does. They are more of a menting money body than working on the promotion of sports itself.
Some people claim the same for FIFA as well, but that is okie . . they can't make everyone happy.

Nope. Every sports body doesn't behave like this. FIFA spends a majority of their revenue every year to develop football in the developing nations. And the remaining revenue is divided equally between the 211 national associations. In order to make football more popular (it is already the most popular sport in the world), they have increased the number of participants in the world cup to 48 (from 32). On the other hand, the ICC reduced the number of participants in the ODI world cup from 16 to 10. World Rugby is another organization which puts sports above money. They divided the member nations to several tiers, and provided additional funding to each country to develop the sport, depending on the tier.

With this I have one thing in mind why ICC is also not going with tier system for funding like top six nations will be in tier one, and then we can go next six in tier two and then next eight in tier three which will surely give good development and increase the competition as well because every board and team will be fight hard for having better funding, and they will try to increase quality of the game in their country franchise cricket could be bonus for countries specially for few big countries like India, Australia, England and Pakistan.

But, here now we have another issue which format could be added for this which is surely not easy but for me here we have to go with t20 because this is surely going to be most popular and surely this will increase good number of countries as well which is positive development in this game but ICC which is currently favouring Gulf surely suffer because we need policy as well.